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NFT: Mets at Braves Game 2 (of the Season) - Mad Max edition

spike : 10/1/2022 3:56 pm
Just about the must win game of the season - Gm 2. LGM!!

CF Nimmo
1b Alonso
SS Lindor
2B McNeil
3B Escobar
DH Vogelbach
LF Canha
RF Naquin
C Nido

P Max Scherzer


The Mets offense misses Marte in the worst way, as there is a huge dropoff from Marte to Naquin.



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RE: anyone remember the last met 2 out rally like that?  
speedywheels : 10/1/2022 8:59 pm : link
In comment 15840183 Eric on Li said:
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more than a month ago?


No. But much needed. Hopefully an easy inning so max can go 7
Who are the most trusted relievers  
SJGiant : 10/1/2022 8:59 pm : link
Now. Besides Diaz and Ottavino. Is it Lugo or Smith?
RE: RE: anyone remember the last met 2 out rally like that?  
Eric on Li : 10/1/2022 9:00 pm : link
In comment 15840189 speedywheels said:
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In comment 15840183 Eric on Li said:


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more than a month ago?



No. But much needed. Hopefully an easy inning so max can go 7


arcia was a must with the top coming up so that was a good start. i dont think he's going to get through the order more than 1 more time so hopefully he can just do that.
Are you kidding me?!  
speedywheels : 10/1/2022 9:02 pm : link
Of course that falls in
This is a massive inning in this game  
moze1021 : 10/1/2022 9:04 pm : link
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RE: This is a massive inning in this game  
Eric on Li : 10/1/2022 9:05 pm : link
In comment 15840194 moze1021 said:
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they are all going to be a grind. pretty sure it's going to go from max to lugo to otto to diaz. and it's possible they need more than 1 from all of them.

have to hope the offense can give some breathing room along the way.
RE: This is a massive inning in this game  
moze1021 : 10/1/2022 9:06 pm : link
In comment 15840194 moze1021 said:
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Yeah so called that
they hit too many homers  
spike : 10/1/2022 9:07 pm : link
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No, their best players are doing their jobs  
Snablats : 10/1/2022 9:07 pm : link
while our best players arent
Oh for fucks sake!  
speedywheels : 10/1/2022 9:08 pm : link
I hate the Braves
They are gonna win this game  
moze1021 : 10/1/2022 9:09 pm : link
I got a feeling

Didn't feel like it at all yesterday..
a fluke check swing hit  
spike : 10/1/2022 9:10 pm : link
led to all of this
….  
ryanmkeane : 10/1/2022 9:10 pm : link
Swanson is out of his mind right now. Fuck.
Swanson>Lindor  
Rob in Rockaway : 10/1/2022 9:10 pm : link
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Hat tip to ATL  
speedywheels : 10/1/2022 9:11 pm : link
If they beat degrom and max back to back, they deserve the division.

Wake the fuck up, bats!!
offense needs a few extra base hits  
Eric on Li : 10/1/2022 9:12 pm : link
that's the difference in the series.
we need  
spike : 10/1/2022 9:13 pm : link
a homer
deGrom and Scherzer have thrown fat pitches  
Snablats : 10/1/2022 9:13 pm : link
and the Braves hit them. When we get fat pitches, they end up as popups and groundballs to the pitcher

We didnt get what we needed from either ace, now the hitters have to get the job done
The bottom of the order  
spike : 10/1/2022 9:17 pm : link
sucks
RE: The bottom of the order  
speedywheels : 10/1/2022 9:18 pm : link
In comment 15840211 spike said:
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sucks
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It has all season. Escobar got hot so they moved him up, so it still sucks.

DH remains a huge black hole.
Oy Vey  
Dennis : 10/1/2022 9:20 pm : link
4-2.
RE: They are gonna win this game  
moze1021 : 10/1/2022 9:20 pm : link
In comment 15840201 moze1021 said:
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I got a feeling

Didn't feel like it at all yesterday..


Nevermind
And another HR  
speedywheels : 10/1/2022 9:21 pm : link
Hello, wildcard…
F.O made mistakes, at the trade deadline, and in the off season  
Dennis : 10/1/2022 9:27 pm : link
We wanted a bone fide hitter, at both times, instead we got Escobar, Canha, et al. We wanted Schwarber, or Bryant, or someone like that.
We wnated another dependable RP., instead we got Givens.
I love Scherzer, and I think he's worth every penny of Cohen's money,
but we needed more.
We got Ruf, and Naquin, and Vogelbach, etc,
We wanted, and needed caviar, we got tuna fish.
Oh well.
We have to get on base next inning  
spike : 10/1/2022 9:29 pm : link
and make something happen
RE: F.O made mistakes, at the trade deadline, and in the off season  
Dennis : 10/1/2022 9:29 pm : link
In comment 15840219 Dennis said:
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We wanted a bone fide hitter, at both times, instead we got Escobar, Canha, et al. We wanted Schwarber, or Bryant, or someone like that.
We wnated another dependable RP., instead we got Givens.
I love Scherzer, and I think he's worth every penny of Cohen's money,
but we needed more.
We got Ruf, and Naquin, and Vogelbach, etc,
We wanted, and needed caviar, we got tuna fish.
Oh well.


"For want of a nail the shoe was lost,
for want of a shoe the horse was lost,
for want of a horse the knight was lost,
for want of a knight the battle was lost,
for want of a battle the kingdom was lost.
So a kingdom was lost—all for want of a nail"
Hope the front office learns something from this.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 10/1/2022 9:30 pm : link
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Bullshit  
Rob in Rockaway : 10/1/2022 9:31 pm : link
the Braves regulars are kicking our asses. It isn't the bullpen, or trade deadline acquisitions. It's Riley, Olson, Swanson, Fried and Wright kicking deGrom, Scherzer, Lindor, etc ass.
RE: Hope the front office learns something from this.  
Dennis : 10/1/2022 9:31 pm : link
In comment 15840223 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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+1. Me too. If you're gonna go, go all the way.
RE: F.O made mistakes, at the trade deadline, and in the off season  
Eric on Li : 10/1/2022 9:31 pm : link
In comment 15840219 Dennis said:
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We wanted a bone fide hitter, at both times, instead we got Escobar, Canha, et al. We wanted Schwarber, or Bryant, or someone like that.
We wnated another dependable RP., instead we got Givens.
I love Scherzer, and I think he's worth every penny of Cohen's money,
but we needed more.
We got Ruf, and Naquin, and Vogelbach, etc,
We wanted, and needed caviar, we got tuna fish.
Oh well.


agree on all - also think they ended up screwing over the prospects by putting them in a no win position. neither vientos or alvarez got near enough at bats to do anything but fail. and for what? they clearly didn't see much value in JDD or Dom.

i expect to see some rally in this game but atlanta has the talent in the BP to stop rallies.
They never showed any urgency to win the division  
Snablats : 10/1/2022 9:32 pm : link
over the last 2 months, and I said for the last two months that I wonder if this was an organizational decision to not worry about winning the division

I dont know why they would think that way, but so many decisions have pointed this way, and the hitters have had no urgency at all

Now deGrom and Scherzer didnt seem to bring the intensity they usually do
RE: F.O made mistakes, at the trade deadline, and in the off season  
speedywheels : 10/1/2022 9:32 pm : link
In comment 15840219 Dennis said:
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We wanted a bone fide hitter, at both times, instead we got Escobar, Canha, et al. We wanted Schwarber, or Bryant, or someone like that.
We wnated another dependable RP., instead we got Givens.
I love Scherzer, and I think he's worth every penny of Cohen's money,
but we needed more.
We got Ruf, and Naquin, and Vogelbach, etc,
We wanted, and needed caviar, we got tuna fish.
Oh well.


They dug their own hole. Yes, they deficiencies hit mentioned are all real. But this team got SWEPT AT HOME by the cubs, and only managed a split of MIA (and took a miracle comeback to get that split).

They should have been at least 3 up on ATL when this series started. But they pissed it away.

They have no one to blame but themselves.
RE: Hope the front office learns something from this.  
Eric on Li : 10/1/2022 9:33 pm : link
In comment 15840223 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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it feels like such a fail that's even part of the equation right now.
RE: RE: F.O made mistakes, at the trade deadline, and in the off season  
Dennis : 10/1/2022 9:34 pm : link
In comment 15840229 speedywheels said:
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In comment 15840219 Dennis said:


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We wanted a bone fide hitter, at both times, instead we got Escobar, Canha, et al. We wanted Schwarber, or Bryant, or someone like that.
We wnated another dependable RP., instead we got Givens.
I love Scherzer, and I think he's worth every penny of Cohen's money,
but we needed more.
We got Ruf, and Naquin, and Vogelbach, etc,
We wanted, and needed caviar, we got tuna fish.
Oh well.



They dug their own hole. Yes, they deficiencies hit mentioned are all real. But this team got SWEPT AT HOME by the cubs, and only managed a split of MIA (and took a miracle comeback to get that split).

They should have been at least 3 up on ATL when this series started. But they pissed it away.

They have no one to blame but themselves.


+1. Totally agree Speedy, The Chicago series was the harbinger of what is now.
well here's the situation you put alonso in the 2 spot for  
Eric on Li : 10/1/2022 9:35 pm : link
nimmo should get a good pitch to hit and if they walk him you get the chance to tie the game.
Nimmo had hit the ball well all night  
moze1021 : 10/1/2022 9:36 pm : link
He and McNeil have done their jobs this series IMO...but no one else really
RE: Nimmo had hit the ball well all night  
Eric on Li : 10/1/2022 9:37 pm : link
In comment 15840233 moze1021 said:
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He and McNeil have done their jobs this series IMO...but no one else really


Alonso and Lindor need to do something here. Hit the ball hard somewhere in the outfield.
alonso  
spike : 10/1/2022 9:37 pm : link
almost got that one.
RE: Nimmo had hit the ball well all night  
Dennis : 10/1/2022 9:37 pm : link
In comment 15840233 moze1021 said:
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He and McNeil have done their jobs this series IMO...but no one else really


+1.
RE: Bullshit  
Ten Ton Hammer : 10/1/2022 9:37 pm : link
In comment 15840225 Rob in Rockaway said:
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the Braves regulars are kicking our asses. It isn't the bullpen, or trade deadline acquisitions. It's Riley, Olson, Swanson, Fried and Wright kicking deGrom, Scherzer, Lindor, etc ass.


Agree, but we're in this mess because the lineup isn't reliable enough. The Braves spent all season swinging at everything and mashing HRs. And now they're working out pitches to crush from our aces and 3 runs down is too much to recover from.
welcome to  
spike : 10/1/2022 9:38 pm : link
Wild card and the Padres
And again, our best hitters fail  
Snablats : 10/1/2022 9:38 pm : link
while their hitters succeeded
Yeah so  
moze1021 : 10/1/2022 9:38 pm : link
Tomorrow is actually the must win game.

Why would it go any other way? We're Mets fans..should have expected this!

Win tomorrow, then it comes down to who beats up better on Marlins/Nats
And that’s that.  
speedywheels : 10/1/2022 9:39 pm : link
This game is over.

Hopefully bassitt can do tomorrow what the “aces” couldn’t
I've been a die hard Mets fan since 1964. I love them.  
Dennis : 10/1/2022 9:40 pm : link
And with the exception of 1986, and 1969, they have pretty much broken my heart every year, and they came close in '86, except for an improbable rally in game 6.
So disappointing  
larryflower37 : 10/1/2022 9:40 pm : link
157 games to fall apart now.
2 aces can't get it done in the biggest moment
RE: Yeah so  
spike : 10/1/2022 9:41 pm : link
In comment 15840241 moze1021 said:
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Tomorrow is actually the must win game.

Why would it go any other way? We're Mets fans..should have expected this!

Win tomorrow, then it comes down to who beats up better on Marlins/Nats


We arent winning tomorrow.
Olney  
Ten Ton Hammer : 10/1/2022 9:41 pm : link
Since June 1:
Braves 177 HR
Mets 115 HR
hopefully  
spike : 10/1/2022 9:42 pm : link
Cohen will add some actual bats for next season. Dump McCann.
well that inning went the worst way possible - 6 outs left vs closers  
Eric on Li : 10/1/2022 9:42 pm : link
and the bottom of the order.

Mcneil,
Escobar,
DH (guillorme?),
Canha,
Naquin
Catcher (vientos?)

assume the first 3 will presumably face iglesias the last 3 will face jansen.

if a guy is on ahead of a PH'er I assume it will go to Vientos to bring the long ball into play. if nobody is on i'd imagine it goes to guillorme to hopefully get someone on ahead of Nimmo or Canha to try to tie it.
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