Morning all, as some of you know, I have a few sources in the NFL, non associated with any team. One has been more reliable than the other and with that said, this rumor is from the less reliable source.
With that said, he hears Tua will go on season ending IR. To a lesser degree, he is hearing there are internal discussions within the Fins organization that this might end the career of Tua.
Hope none of it is true, but just to pass along what I am hearing.
Now, if they found something else wrong- like the neck issue (which was part of his injury Thursday according to multiple reports) is actually a narrowing of the spinal column, then that certainly could be a career ender without argument.
I just think a diagnosis of this magnitude, career ending belief, wouldn't be possible already.
Either way I hope that is not the case for a guy who was just starting to show his true ability.
Best wishes to him.
We will see.
He does not have the best medical history, something like 5 surgeries in college to go along with the string of injuries he has had recently.
Hope for the best for him.
A- he screwed up when everyone knew he was concussed
B- There is a MASSIVE lawsuit coming up on this one
I wouldn't at all be shocked if the Dolphins IR him, if nothing else looking ahead to litigation and public pressure for how badly they screwed up initially.
That said, I wouldn't be stunned if Tua walked away. Not only for his health, but he is going be in line for a huge payday via a lawsuit and a settlement, since he knows the NFL will never want to have this ever see the inside of a court room. He will get all his money, plus what would have been assumed lost future pay (look at the QB contracts now) and not have to take another hit or put himself at any more risk.
A- he screwed up when everyone knew he was concussed
B- There is a MASSIVE lawsuit coming up on this one
I wouldn't at all be shocked if the Dolphins IR him, if nothing else looking ahead to litigation and public pressure for how badly they screwed up initially.
That said, I wouldn't be stunned if Tua walked away. Not only for his health, but he is going be in line for a huge payday via a lawsuit and a settlement, since he knows the NFL will never want to have this ever see the inside of a court room. He will get all his money, plus what would have been assumed lost future pay (look at the QB contracts now) and not have to take another hit or put himself at any more risk.
I agree with you, I think all the above are realistic possibilities.
We’re going to see the burden of proof turn from, prove he likely has a concussion, to prove he almost certainly doesn’t. That’s a good thing for the NFL.
Be prepared for everyone going into the tent being declared concussed and done for the game. There is no "independent consultant" who is going to go out on a short limb and let someone back in the game.
A- he screwed up when everyone knew he was concussed
B- There is a MASSIVE lawsuit coming up on this one
I wouldn't at all be shocked if the Dolphins IR him, if nothing else looking ahead to litigation and public pressure for how badly they screwed up initially.
That said, I wouldn't be stunned if Tua walked away. Not only for his health, but he is going be in line for a huge payday via a lawsuit and a settlement, since he knows the NFL will never want to have this ever see the inside of a court room. He will get all his money, plus what would have been assumed lost future pay (look at the QB contracts now) and not have to take another hit or put himself at any more risk.
But he's jointly paid by the NFL and NFLPA and subject to termination by either side if dissatisfied with his performance. The NFLPA exercising that right is not inconsistent with the job description.
The NFLPA's statement on the termination mentions "hostility during the investigation process" as well as dissatisfaction with the consultant's application of the protocol in this instance.
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Be prepared for everyone going into the tent being declared concussed and done for the game. There is no "independent consultant" who is going to go out on a short limb and let someone back in the game.
Good point here. There will be a lot of hesitation about clearing players from now on.
Maybe it's better to be cautious anyhow, but it is something to think about.
That just highlights the fallacy in all this and what makes it a bitch from NFL's perspective. I don't share its perspective, having a daughter who was severely concussed and had an onfield seizure. So I'm all in for extreme caution in RTP protocol; even that is not fool proof, to go to the comment..."proof".
What makes the head trauma field so hard is that clinical 'proof' is hard if not impossible to come by, there being such wide variation between immediate effects of individuals exposed to ostensibly identical trauma: immediate reaction (nausea, motor instability, dizziness, confusion, headache, ST memory loss, etc.) and longer term recovery vs durability of symptoms and signs. And this doesn't even capture the subjectivity of different practitioners, interpretation of what he/she is "seeing".
CAT scans, MRIs etc. more often than not do not capture the trauma done to cell matrix except in case of blood clots, which clearly do show up but occur in relatively small % of cases. BU head trauma and other centers believe the trauma may be reflected in micro cellular effects.
And this is true as well - many elite athletes have a drive to compete that overrides the risks they face. That's why the concussion protocol exists in the first place - remember Jeff Hostetler sniffing an ammonia capsule on the bench in XXV, after Leon Seals crushed him? In 2022, Hoss would never be allowed back into that game.
No lingering effects? So you were always like this?
My wife blames her concussion history for at least part of her memory/brain fog issues
Best wishes to him.
Mike Tyson….”Spinal”
I only hope he doesn't push Tua to stay in the NFL to live out his own fantasies against doctor's wishes for his son's health.
The Doctors really did him wrong here and i hope rehab helps him to live a productive and happy life going forward.
That is exactly why RTP guidelines were developed. And they are no guarantee.
as someone who has had 3 concussions. Every single one of them is different and you cannot compare the recovery time of one to another.
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It shocks me how quickly guys come back. Considering the severity of the concussion, it would not surprise me at all if he is done for the season. He should be out at least a month
as someone who has had 3 concussions. Every single one of them is different and you cannot compare the recovery time of one to another.
I agree. I had two concussions. First one was nothing. Two days later I felt fine. Second one lingered and turned into post-concussion syndrome.
There is a big psychological element with concussions as well. Very difficult to completely separate physical and psychological. I had a brain MRI for second one.