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Eric from BBI : Admin : 10/2/2022 3:54 pm
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RE: RE: RE: RE: As I have been posting on another thread  
rich in DC : 10/2/2022 6:02 pm : link
In comment 15842506 BigBlueJ said:
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Take a hard look at the rest of the schedule- and take off the Giant fan blinders. With this team- with no viable receivers, a weak interior OL, a bad QB situation- where are the wins remaining on this schedule?

They will max out at 5- and that might be optimistic even though they have 3 in the bag already.




Rich you must be the life of the party



We struggled to beat one of the 3 worst teams in the league and you want to celebrate that? Go right ahead.



Go fuck off. Please tell me what your emotional reaction be at this point. Stick a nail in your eye if happiness bothers you so much


I’m not going to celebrate a win against the hapless Bears. Beat Dallas or a real team and I’ll celebrate.

But wins like this build the delusions on this site that persist even now that this is a good team. It’s not. This is year 1 of a 3 year rebuild. They are going to draft a new QB who will have to spend a year or two learning while they give him legit WR, and set of durable RB and some strong Interior OL. At the same time, they need to find some LB and decent interior DL to allow DL to get a break.

Remember that due to the ridiculous restructure they just gave Williams, its a near certainty that he will have to be cut after the season just to get back some of the cap space. This is a rebuilding team, not a competitive one.
RE: RE: RE: As I have been posting on another thread  
bw in dc : 10/2/2022 6:03 pm : link
In comment 15842501 rich in DC said:
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We struggled to beat one of the 3 worst teams in the league and you want to celebrate that? Go right ahead.


I have to disagree. Kafka made chicken salad today...
RE: RE: RE: If this team  
BigBlueJ : 10/2/2022 6:03 pm : link
In comment 15842525 Jimmy Googs said:
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Had even average production out of the WR room looking around the league at this point and despite a lack of depth everywhere.. it would contend for a playoff spot..agravating



It is sad and true. Unfortunately DG left us no cap room and even having 10+ picks, they couldn’t fill all the holes left in one offseason.

For the first time in many years, they have a legit coaching staff that could even be plus- but for this season, they are stuck trying to make chicken salad out of chicken shit.



Stop blaming DG for all the woes with this team.

But we should consider moving to the Polo Grounds because all we do is get injured on this Met Life field...


Dont blame the GM one year removed who is responsible for the creation of this roaster and financial implications? Rights Googs... another genius.
Pack  
Ron Johnson : 10/2/2022 6:05 pm : link
Down at the half. They don’t have shit. Who says we can’t win in London?
Crowder played well today  
Snablats : 10/2/2022 6:11 pm : link
still had a few soft plays and hitting the wrong hole, but played much better than he usually does
Barkley, Jones, Bellinger  
kelly : 10/2/2022 6:15 pm : link
That is our offense.

If only we had a few receivers.
Will Wandale and Toney ever play?  
Snablats : 10/2/2022 6:19 pm : link
Could really use Toney in the wildcat because he was a QB. Oh, and maybe as a WR and gadget guy considering we may be using our 3rd string QB
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: As I have been posting on another thread  
section125 : 10/2/2022 6:20 pm : link
In comment 15842532 rich in DC said:
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I’m not going to celebrate a win against the hapless Bears. Beat Dallas or a real team and I’ll celebrate.

But wins like this build the delusions on this site that persist even now that this is a good team. It’s not. This is year 1 of a 3 year rebuild. They are going to draft a new QB who will have to spend a year or two learning while they give him legit WR, and set of durable RB and some strong Interior OL. At the same time, they need to find some LB and decent interior DL to allow DL to get a break.

Remember that due to the ridiculous restructure they just gave Williams, its a near certainty that he will have to be cut after the season just to get back some of the cap space. This is a rebuilding team, not a competitive one.


rich, you are great on baseball threads. Not so much on football.
Nobody is delusional on what this team is. It has little talent but they are playing really hard. They are beating who they are supposed to beat. They are finding a way to win.
Even in the Dallas game, a couple of dropped passes late killed drives. They are not near Dallas in talent.
LW will not need to be cut. His contract is too much, but he is their best DL by a wide margin and they will have room next year especially after Golladay is cut.

Just set your sights lower and just hope they play hard and learn every week.
RE: Pack  
rich in DC : 10/2/2022 6:34 pm : link
In comment 15842544 Ron Johnson said:
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Down at the half. They don’t have shit. Who says we can’t win in London?


Are you actually watching the game or just scoreboard watching?

The pick six where Rogers got greedy just before the half is the sole reason NE is in the game. The Pack are moving the ball at will on NE in the second half- on the ground and in the air. The pack pass rush is fierce too. 3 sacks and should have had more already.
RE: RE: Pack  
FatMan in Charlotte : 10/2/2022 6:40 pm : link
In comment 15842631 rich in DC said:
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Down at the half. They don’t have shit. Who says we can’t win in London?



Are you actually watching the game or just scoreboard watching?

The pick six where Rogers got greedy just before the half is the sole reason NE is in the game. The Pack are moving the ball at will on NE in the second half- on the ground and in the air. The pack pass rush is fierce too. 3 sacks and should have had more already.


Are YOU actually watching the game?? The Patriots took the lead when their 3rd string QB marched the team down and threw a TD pass. A really strange observation from a poster who has made a ton of them just today.

You think the Packers look good today? Make an eye appointment ASAP, because trying to get a better grasp of football knowledge is going to be a much longer endeavor
Correction..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 10/2/2022 6:44 pm : link
he's led two drives that have taken the lead vs. the Packers.

Great showing by GB so far!
Rich  
Lines of Scrimmage : 10/2/2022 6:45 pm : link
I think you are watching the wrong game.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: As I have been posting on another thread  
Photoguy : 10/2/2022 6:49 pm : link
In comment 15842532 rich in DC said:
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Take a hard look at the rest of the schedule- and take off the Giant fan blinders. With this team- with no viable receivers, a weak interior OL, a bad QB situation- where are the wins remaining on this schedule?

They will max out at 5- and that might be optimistic even though they have 3 in the bag already.




Rich you must be the life of the party



We struggled to beat one of the 3 worst teams in the league and you want to celebrate that? Go right ahead.



Go fuck off. Please tell me what your emotional reaction be at this point. Stick a nail in your eye if happiness bothers you so much



I’m not going to celebrate a win against the hapless Bears. Beat Dallas or a real team and I’ll celebrate.

But wins like this build the delusions on this site that persist even now that this is a good team. It’s not. This is year 1 of a 3 year rebuild. They are going to draft a new QB who will have to spend a year or two learning while they give him legit WR, and set of durable RB and some strong Interior OL. At the same time, they need to find some LB and decent interior DL to allow DL to get a break.

Remember that due to the ridiculous restructure they just gave Williams, its a near certainty that he will have to be cut after the season just to get back some of the cap space. This is a rebuilding team, not a competitive one.


Who in the hell is saying that this is a good team? We all know where the holes are, and what needs upgrading. We're trying to get some satisfaction out of winning a game that we could have let slip away. This team showed resilience today, and they believe in each other and the coaches. You want to piss and moan, go ahead. I however, am going to sleep well tonight...the rest of the schedule be damned.
Seems to me, Taylor was helmeted twice  
GeofromNJ : 10/2/2022 6:55 pm : link
Once, initial contact that brought him to the ground, then while he's lying on the ground another tackler nails him with his helmet. It was this second hit that should have been called.
RE: RE: RE: Pack  
ajr2456 : 10/2/2022 6:59 pm : link
In comment 15842642 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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Down at the half. They don’t have shit. Who says we can’t win in London?



Are you actually watching the game or just scoreboard watching?

The pick six where Rogers got greedy just before the half is the sole reason NE is in the game. The Pack are moving the ball at will on NE in the second half- on the ground and in the air. The pack pass rush is fierce too. 3 sacks and should have had more already.



Are YOU actually watching the game?? The Patriots took the lead when their 3rd string QB marched the team down and threw a TD pass. A really strange observation from a poster who has made a ton of them just today.

You think the Packers look good today? Make an eye appointment ASAP, because trying to get a better grasp of football knowledge is going to be a much longer endeavor


Why are you such an angry person? All you do is come on here and throw around insults. Get a grip or some hobbies
RE: RE: RE: As I have been posting on another thread  
FStubbs : 10/2/2022 6:59 pm : link
In comment 15842501 rich in DC said:
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In comment 15841907 rich in DC said:


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Take a hard look at the rest of the schedule- and take off the Giant fan blinders. With this team- with no viable receivers, a weak interior OL, a bad QB situation- where are the wins remaining on this schedule?

They will max out at 5- and that might be optimistic even though they have 3 in the bag already.




Rich you must be the life of the party



We struggled to beat one of the 3 worst teams in the league and you want to celebrate that? Go right ahead.


Better than BEING one of the 3 worst teams in the league.
RE: Seems to me, Taylor was helmeted twice  
shyster : 10/2/2022 7:04 pm : link
In comment 15842694 GeofromNJ said:
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Once, initial contact that brought him to the ground, then while he's lying on the ground another tackler nails him with his helmet. It was this second hit that should have been called.


The second hit happened when a Bears' defender was diving for the loose ball. Refs will allow some leeway there.

Giants were fortunate that the Bears' player who did recover the fumble was out of bounds. Could have turned the game.

youtube - ( New Window )
RE: RE: RE: RE: Pack  
FatMan in Charlotte : 10/2/2022 7:04 pm : link
In comment 15842705 ajr2456 said:
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Down at the half. They don’t have shit. Who says we can’t win in London?



Are you actually watching the game or just scoreboard watching?

The pick six where Rogers got greedy just before the half is the sole reason NE is in the game. The Pack are moving the ball at will on NE in the second half- on the ground and in the air. The pack pass rush is fierce too. 3 sacks and should have had more already.



Are YOU actually watching the game?? The Patriots took the lead when their 3rd string QB marched the team down and threw a TD pass. A really strange observation from a poster who has made a ton of them just today.

You think the Packers look good today? Make an eye appointment ASAP, because trying to get a better grasp of football knowledge is going to be a much longer endeavor



Why are you such an angry person? All you do is come on here and throw around insults. Get a grip or some hobbies


An angry person?? On all of the two threads I'm active on, Chief? The opposite. I'm happy because we won. But I'm sure you'll spend the better part of the week reiterating how much Jones sucks and how he had little to do with the win. The same thing you've done for the past 4 weeks.

You might want to reevaluate who the angry one is as you spend several hours this week complaining. It's always everyone else just picking on you, right?
I see you’re not smart enough  
ajr2456 : 10/2/2022 7:08 pm : link
To differentiate between having discussions and complaining. You provide zero value to this besides the comedy from getting caught forging posts. You’re in your mid 50s throwing name calling people you don’t even know on a message board. Grow up.
He’s watching you ajr.  
Jimmy Googs : 10/2/2022 7:20 pm : link
And then he’s complaining about you complaining.

Next stage...altering your posts.
RE: He’s watching you ajr.  
ajr2456 : 10/2/2022 7:22 pm : link
In comment 15842755 Jimmy Googs said:
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And then he’s complaining about you complaining.

Next stage...altering your posts.


It’s fascinating he’s been following me around for weeks, and now is complaining about people complaining.
RE: RE: He’s watching you ajr.  
Jimmy Googs : 10/2/2022 7:28 pm : link
In comment 15842759 ajr2456 said:
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And then he’s complaining about you complaining.

Next stage...altering your posts.



It’s fascinating he’s been following me around for weeks, and now is complaining about people complaining.


Not sure fascinating is right word. More like pathetic. Especially since he says he doesn’t want to put up with posters on this board any longer.

But again, altering your posts is his next move. Wait for it...

But again,
LOL..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 10/2/2022 7:35 pm : link
still trying to scam people on the allegation of altering of the posts.

Slowly, it is just your clique that buys into the bullshit. I'm here infrequently enough that your continued reference to the sham is just sad at this point.
I mean you like to make up what people are thinking  
ajr2456 : 10/2/2022 7:45 pm : link
And make accusations out of it. Must be a miserable way to live.
 
christian : 10/2/2022 7:46 pm : link
Since it’s such an obvious sham FMiC, maybe you can explain what happened.

Here’s the link to the quote you attributed to Googs.

Here’s the link to the original thread where you lifted the quote, but it wasn’t Googs, it’s Jay on the Island.

It seems pretty clear as day you to a quote Jay on the Island made, and copied and pasted Googs name in there.
I don’t get why  
ChrisRick : 10/2/2022 7:54 pm : link
Someone would do something that is so easily traced. Seems too easy. Something is off with this situation in my view.
RE: I don’t get why  
ajr2456 : 10/2/2022 7:56 pm : link
In comment 15842815 ChrisRick said:
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Someone would do something that is so easily traced. Seems too easy. Something is off with this situation in my view.


Yea, the guy who did it.
RE: I don’t get why  
christian : 10/2/2022 7:56 pm : link
In comment 15842815 ChrisRick said:
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Someone would do something that is so easily traced. Seems too easy. Something is off with this situation in my view.


I’m all ears. I thought it was super weird at the time.

I’m sure FMiC can quickly explain and convince Googs he didn’t swap his name with Jay’s.
If it obvious  
ChrisRick : 10/2/2022 7:58 pm : link
That fmic did this, then why was he not banned?
 
christian : 10/2/2022 8:06 pm : link
Oh I don’t think people should or do get banned over being immature. It’s just silly. But it’s certainly worth explaining or getting balls busted over. It’s definitely not the end of the world.
RE: If it obvious  
bw in dc : 10/2/2022 8:08 pm : link
In comment 15842828 ChrisRick said:
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That fmic did this, then why was he not banned?


I couldn't care less if FMiC was banned. I don't like bans.

Whatever the case, FMiC should do one of two things...

1. Apologize to Googs for altering a post.
2. Explain what may have happened.

Strangely, he's said nothing. Why?
The mods ban for  
ChrisRick : 10/2/2022 8:10 pm : link
Much less; so it raises an interesting question. Since it seems obvious to some here that FMIC forged the post then it makes sense that he would be banned, yet he is not. It is not like the mods were not made aware of the incident, I am guessing it was investigated.

 
christian : 10/2/2022 8:14 pm : link
I think you have to email the mods an tell on someone, which I seriously doubt Googs would do.
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ChrisRick : 10/2/2022 8:16 pm : link
I believe you made a thread highlighting the incident. If I am not mistaken you said you “ got your wrist slapped by the mods” for making that thread which tells me they read it
RE: LOL..  
Jimmy Googs : 10/2/2022 8:17 pm : link
In comment 15842785 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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still trying to scam people on the allegation of altering of the posts.

Slowly, it is just your clique that buys into the bullshit. I'm here infrequently enough that your continued reference to the sham is just sad at this point.


Allegation?

Tell me how my name got onto that post that Jay wrote several years ago to Bw. Same stamp number and same time stamp.

You doctored my name and changed words in the post to fit your silly agenda and because I am one of the few that typically got the best of you and you always hated that.

So tell us how that happened...

RE: .  
christian : 10/2/2022 8:22 pm : link
In comment 15842864 ChrisRick said:
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I believe you made a thread highlighting the incident. If I am not mistaken you said you “ got your wrist slapped by the mods” for making that thread which tells me they read it


I got warned not to start call out threads, I have no idea what the mods do and don’t read.
RE: …  
Jimmy Googs : 10/2/2022 8:23 pm : link
In comment 15842838 christian said:
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Oh I don’t think people should or do get banned over being immature. It’s just silly. But it’s certainly worth explaining or getting balls busted over. It’s definitely not the end of the world.


Of course not. But it is just so perfect for Fmic, of all people, to get caught doing this because of the way he has acted on this board for years and to a select few, including me.

It’s like Christmas every time he posts now...
RE: The mods ban for  
bw in dc : 10/2/2022 8:25 pm : link
In comment 15842846 ChrisRick said:
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Much less; so it raises an interesting question. Since it seems obvious to some here that FMIC forged the post then it makes sense that he would be banned, yet he is not. It is not like the mods were not made aware of the incident, I am guessing it was investigated.


Ask yourself this question.

If we switch the situation where it appears Googs altered FMiC's post, how do you think it plays out?
I've never seen such slick, deceptive ball handling  
M.S. : 10/2/2022 8:25 pm : link

from Daniel Jones as I did today.

He was a master with his fakes!

Made a big difference today. Several times Bears just didn't know where the ball was!!!
 
christian : 10/2/2022 8:26 pm : link
Lol I’ll bow out so I don’t get myself banned over it.

I think it’s all goofy. But I’ll be in your clique any day Googs!
RE: RE: If it obvious  
Jimmy Googs : 10/2/2022 8:29 pm : link
In comment 15842841 bw in dc said:
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That fmic did this, then why was he not banned?



I couldn't care less if FMiC was banned. I don't like bans.

Whatever the case, FMiC should do one of two things...

1. Apologize to Googs for altering a post.
2. Explain what may have happened.

Strangely, he's said nothing. Why?


I don’t want or need an apology. And I know what happened...anybody with half a brain can see what happened by looking at the thread Christian posted.

The current state of play is fine with me...
RE: RE: The mods ban for  
ChrisRick : 10/2/2022 8:30 pm : link
In comment 15842892 bw in dc said:
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Much less; so it raises an interesting question. Since it seems obvious to some here that FMIC forged the post then it makes sense that he would be banned, yet he is not. It is not like the mods were not made aware of the incident, I am guessing it was investigated.




Ask yourself this question.

If we switch the situation where it appears Googs altered FMiC's post, how do you think it plays out?


I would think if the Mods truly thought anyone altered someone’s post they would ban that user.
RE: I've never seen such slick, deceptive ball handling  
FStubbs : 10/2/2022 8:33 pm : link
In comment 15842894 M.S. said:
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from Daniel Jones as I did today.

He was a master with his fakes!

Made a big difference today. Several times Bears just didn't know where the ball was!!!


Jones is a better QB this year. Whether he's good enough or not, he's definitely showing some veteran nuance to his game that wasn't there before.
RE: RE: RE: If it obvious  
bw in dc : 10/2/2022 8:34 pm : link
In comment 15842909 Jimmy Googs said:
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I don’t want or need an apology. And I know what happened...anybody with half a brain can see what happened by looking at the thread Christian posted.

The current state of play is fine with me...


I get it, but it would be the right thing to do - IMV.
RE: RE: I've never seen such slick, deceptive ball handling  
Lines of Scrimmage : 10/2/2022 8:57 pm : link
In comment 15842918 FStubbs said:
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from Daniel Jones as I did today.

He was a master with his fakes!

Made a big difference today. Several times Bears just didn't know where the ball was!!!



Jones is a better QB this year. Whether he's good enough or not, he's definitely showing some veteran nuance to his game that wasn't there before.


I agree with both of you. Very impressed with him. Don't know what the long term will be either but he is playing better and team does believe in him imv.
RE: RE: RE: The mods ban for  
Jimmy Googs : 10/2/2022 9:02 pm : link
In comment 15842913 ChrisRick said:
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In comment 15842892 bw in dc said:


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In comment 15842846 ChrisRick said:


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Much less; so it raises an interesting question. Since it seems obvious to some here that FMIC forged the post then it makes sense that he would be banned, yet he is not. It is not like the mods were not made aware of the incident, I am guessing it was investigated.




Ask yourself this question.

If we switch the situation where it appears Googs altered FMiC's post, how do you think it plays out?



I would think if the Mods truly thought anyone altered someone’s post they would ban that user.


Then go tell them to...
RE: RE: Seems to me, Taylor was helmeted twice  
GeofromNJ : 10/2/2022 9:08 pm : link
In comment 15842724 shyster said:
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In comment 15842694 GeofromNJ said:


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Once, initial contact that brought him to the ground, then while he's lying on the ground another tackler nails him with his helmet. It was this second hit that should have been called.



The second hit happened when a Bears' defender was diving for the loose ball. Refs will allow some leeway there.

Giants were fortunate that the Bears' player who did recover the fumble was out of bounds. Could have turned the game. youtube - ( New Window )

Yeah, you're right. It was while fighting for the fumbled ball.
RE: RE: I've never seen such slick, deceptive ball handling  
Mike in NY : 10/2/2022 9:09 pm : link
In comment 15842918 FStubbs said:
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from Daniel Jones as I did today.

He was a master with his fakes!

Made a big difference today. Several times Bears just didn't know where the ball was!!!



Jones is a better QB this year. Whether he's good enough or not, he's definitely showing some veteran nuance to his game that wasn't there before.


He did show some skill with fakes last year, but that was too risky for Judge. Unlike Judge, who only talked about adapting scheme to players, Daboll and Kafka are trying to suit the play calling to what our guys can do.
RE: Dexter Lawrence etc.  
M.S. : 10/2/2022 9:24 pm : link
In comment 15842308 Cheech d said:
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Agree on Dex…
Best game I can remember.
Pushed the pocket, had 2 sacks, stacked up blockers, dominant in general.
Honorable mention to Crowder and Jaylon Smith in playing the run well.
Also a shout out to the coaches for getting much more out of the players they inherited on this roster.

Yes... but. With Cody Whitehair injured and removed early from game.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: As I have been posting on another thread  
blink667 : 10/2/2022 10:40 pm : link
In comment 15842532 rich in DC said:
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Take a hard look at the rest of the schedule- and take off the Giant fan blinders. With this team- with no viable receivers, a weak interior OL, a bad QB situation- where are the wins remaining on this schedule?

They will max out at 5- and that might be optimistic even though they have 3 in the bag already.




Rich you must be the life of the party



We struggled to beat one of the 3 worst teams in the league and you want to celebrate that? Go right ahead.



Go fuck off. Please tell me what your emotional reaction be at this point. Stick a nail in your eye if happiness bothers you so much



I’m not going to celebrate a win against the hapless Bears. Beat Dallas or a real team and I’ll celebrate.

But wins like this build the delusions on this site that persist even now that this is a good team. It’s not. This is year 1 of a 3 year rebuild. They are going to draft a new QB who will have to spend a year or two learning while they give him legit WR, and set of durable RB and some strong Interior OL. At the same time, they need to find some LB and decent interior DL to allow DL to get a break.

Remember that due to the ridiculous restructure they just gave Williams, its a near certainty that he will have to be cut after the season just to get back some of the cap space. This is a rebuilding team, not a competitive one.


If you’re winning games you’re competitive. That’s called logic.
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