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| Daniel Jones noted, interestingly, that he believed “part of the decision” to take him out when he hurt his ankle was that he was unable to execute the QB-rollout game plan. And Tyrod could. So obviously, Jones was frustrated because he could play, just not doing what they needed |
I think we will see Webb and the question is will Jones be the backup or will we have a new signee on board as the backup?
For sure. My hope is that he’s right, and Jones is mostly fine; just in the short term wasn’t in a position to execute an offense where he was a primary ground game focus.
You're not kidding. I couldn't believe how many times we ran it and they still left it practically undefended. Time after time Jones had either a) 5-10 yards of open field in front of him, or b) an open target who beat single coverage (or both). It's like each time was the first time Chicago saw it. Credit to Kafka for creating good opportunities for Jones, and credit to Jones for making the right run/pass decision on most of those plays, but blame to Chicago for not adjusting.
Did they ever adjust to it other than the play Jones was sacked on (and got injured)?
Even Taylor was able to get yards - critical yards - outside the tackles rolling right. Where we killed the Bears ALL day...
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They clearly had the naked bootleg as a big part of their game plan. That Chicago took so long to adjust is astounding.
For sure. My hope is that he’s right, and Jones is mostly fine; just in the short term wasn’t in a position to execute an offense where he was a primary ground game focus.
We literally didn’t throw once when he had to go back in game on downs it made way more sense to throw.
He’s going to be out a little bit. Or should be. It’s important to protect these players from themselves before they make things worse.
Tyrod can hold down the fort for a couple weeks.
Agreed. The Bears didn't adjust until the second half. They kept getting burned by those bootlegs. On Jones's first TD, he literally started from the 30 yard line and still scored, not needing a block to do so until about the five yard line.
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They clearly had the naked bootleg as a big part of their game plan. That Chicago took so long to adjust is astounding.
For sure. My hope is that he’s right, and Jones is mostly fine; just in the short term wasn’t in a position to execute an offense where he was a primary ground game focus.
We literally didn’t throw once when he had to go back in game on downs it made way more sense to throw.
He’s going to be out a little bit. Or should be. It’s important to protect these players from themselves before they make things worse.
Tyrod can hold down the fort for a couple weeks.
Tyrod won't be holding down the fort if he has a concussion, especially after what happened with Tua. Lace 'em up, Davis Webb.
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They clearly had the naked bootleg as a big part of their game plan. That Chicago took so long to adjust is astounding.
Agreed. The Bears didn't adjust until the second half. They kept getting burned by those bootlegs. On Jones's first TD, he literally started from the 30 yard line and still scored, not needing a block to do so until about the five yard line.
Nearly every pass play was a fake handoff and the Bears continued to sell out on the run. Not a good job of coaching by their D coordinator
It was the absolute right formula for the right gullible defense. Kudos to the staff for going to that play-action misdirection a lot of times.
Hell, I think they may have under-utilized it. Aside from the sack on Jones, where he got hurt by Brisker, I still don't think the Bears had a solution.
It was the absolute right formula for the right gullible defense. Kudos to the staff for going to that play-action misdirection a lot of times.
Hell, I think they may have under-utilized it. Aside from the sack on Jones, where he got hurt by Brisker, I still don't think the Bears had a solution.
Spider43's point is entirely about injury risk and you are, with all due, entirely missing that point.
Sure, the QB runs are effective, until these QBs get hurt, which they inevitably will and which, of course, happened to both today.
Jones has now missed playing time due to injury six times in his short career and every one has occurred on a designed run or scramble out of the pocket.
Taylor lost his starting gig in CLE because of a concussion and has suffered a number of other injuries. Neither Jones nor Taylor is a Josh Allen who can run all over the field on a regular basis and stay healthy.
Not saying this issue can easily be resolved. I mostly avoid the endless Jones threads, both pre-season and in-season, but my one comment on a pre-season Jones thread was: if Jones does not run, he and the Giants' offense will not be effective; if he does run, he is not likely to stay healthy.
We made it all the way to Week 3 and a half for this to pan out, for Jones. Taylor lasted seven snaps.
exactly
Then Taylor gets hurt, they bring him back in the game.
But not as a QB, but as a decoy.
OK, wildcat a play or two, no big deal. But after a few plays, you aren't fooling anyone with Jones on the field - so why not bring in an extra blocker or WR rather than a decoy who isn't fooling anyone??
But now the reason he didnt play QB is because he couldn't execute the rollout. Okayyyyyy - so he and the coaching staff admitted that they don't trust him to play QB?? Only in a rollout or RPO offense?
And wouldn't he be a more useful decoy under center handing off rather than out wide???
not a conspiracy theorist - but I found it odd Taylor came in at all, and even odder when they didn't let him take the snap. This answer makes it ten times odder to me.
They likely needed Jones in the huddle at least for the purpose of green-dot communication and getting the plays called. Asking Barkley to handle the snap is one thing, but having zero QBs in the huddle and trying to get the communication right was likely a bridge too far to build on the fly, without the benefit of halftime or anything like that to really work out the communication.
Thankfully they had the benefit of a lead, so they didn't need to make pushing the ball down the filed as big of a priority.
Then Taylor gets hurt, they bring him back in the game.
But not as a QB, but as a decoy.
OK, wildcat a play or two, no big deal. But after a few plays, you aren't fooling anyone with Jones on the field - so why not bring in an extra blocker or WR rather than a decoy who isn't fooling anyone??
But now the reason he didnt play QB is because he couldn't execute the rollout. Okayyyyyy - so he and the coaching staff admitted that they don't trust him to play QB?? Only in a rollout or RPO offense?
And wouldn't he be a more useful decoy under center handing off rather than out wide???
not a conspiracy theorist - but I found it odd Taylor came in at all, and even odder when they didn't let him take the snap. This answer makes it ten times odder to me.
Did you see the WRs they ran out there? Have you seen the OL pass protect this season? Add to that they lost their starting RT in the game and the Bears were bringing extra defenders on many plays and it’s not hard to understand why they didn’t want an injured Jones to drop back and attempt to throw the ball downfield. Hell, it actually doesn’t even have anything to do with him being injured. We all seen the game plan from the start of the game. They weren’t going to let the Bears tee off on Jones like the Cowboys did, and I don’t think it has as much to do with trusting Jones as much as it is not trusting the OL and pathetic WRs
But that's the not the same as sticking your foot in the ground with full body weight on that ankle.
And if you can't plant, you can't defend yourself on the field.