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Top 5 players NYG have drafted, signed or traded that SUCK

MNP70 : 10/3/2022 1:02 pm
1. Kenny Golladay
2. Ron Dayne
3. Derek Brown (TE out of ND)
4. Dave Brown
5. Tarkenton trade back to Minnesota.

Open for discussion
Ron Dayne and Dave Brown  
cjac : 10/3/2022 1:05 pm : link
were more productive than Kadarius Toney at this point.

Jury is still out as he can turn it around, but... just sayin
Matt Dodge  
JB_in_DC : 10/3/2022 1:07 pm : link
.
Herman Moore  
MartyNJ1969 : 10/3/2022 1:09 pm : link
Nothing left in the tank when we signed him.
That really good kick returner from the Eagles  
OBJ_AllDay : 10/3/2022 1:13 pm : link
Can't remember his name now. But he was beyond washed when he came here.
RE: That really good kick returner from the Eagles  
JB_in_DC : 10/3/2022 1:14 pm : link
In comment 15844121 OBJ_AllDay said:
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Can't remember his name now. But he was beyond washed when he came here.


Brian Mitchell
Joe Don Looney.  
MOOPS : 10/3/2022 1:15 pm : link
Rocky Thompson
Junior Ioane

CC Brown  
Greg from LI : 10/3/2022 1:16 pm : link
End of thread
Thomas Lewis  
Vanzetti : 10/3/2022 1:16 pm : link
projected to go late in the draft, Giants took him in the first round. Total bust.
RE: CC Brown  
OBJ_AllDay : 10/3/2022 1:17 pm : link
In comment 15844138 Greg from LI said:
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Good call. He derailed the 2009 season by himself.
In my lifetime....  
Spirit of '86 : 10/3/2022 1:17 pm : link
Rocky Thompson
Eldridge Small
Kanavis Mc Ghee
Derek Brown
William Joseph
RE: Herman Moore  
MOOPS : 10/3/2022 1:17 pm : link
In comment 15844110 MartyNJ1969 said:
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Nothing left in the tank when we signed him.



If we signed Herman today, he'd be starting next week.
Nate Solder  
nyjuggernaut2 : 10/3/2022 1:18 pm : link
.
We need a longer list  
rasbutant : 10/3/2022 1:19 pm : link
Solder
Flowers
Brandon Marshall
Patrick Omameh
Geoff Schwartz
Jonathan Stewart
I might rank Thomas Lewis ahead of Dave Brown  
sb from NYT Forum : 10/3/2022 1:20 pm : link
...Also Cedric Jones should be an honorable mention as a draftee, and Carlos Emmons as a FA.
RE: We need a longer list  
monstercoo : 10/3/2022 1:28 pm : link
In comment 15844154 rasbutant said:
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Solder
Flowers
Brandon Marshall
Patrick Omameh
Geoff Schwartz
Jonathan Stewart


Solder's 2021 performance was the most embarrassing I've seen. Golladay looks like All-Pro talent in comparison.
There are so many  
Gman11 : 10/3/2022 1:29 pm : link
Joe Don Looney
John Hicks
Craig Morton
Butch Woolfolk
Tyrone Wheatley

picking guys like Rocky Thompson, Eldridge Small, Derek Brown, Cedrick Jones are low hanging fruit
Dave Thomas  
BH28 : 10/3/2022 1:32 pm : link
Aka: toast
William  
Silver Spoon : 10/3/2022 1:33 pm : link
Joseph.
How did Tarkenton suck?  
Larry in Pencilvania : 10/3/2022 1:34 pm : link
He and Archie Manning invented the run for your life offense
Plenty in the history of the team  
Lines of Scrimmage : 10/3/2022 1:35 pm : link
You would have to greatly expand the "5" requirement just for the last decade. It's difficult to choose just 5 imv.
2000's Draft stinkers  
Maijay : 10/3/2022 1:37 pm : link
1. Ron Dayne
2. Ereck Flowers
3. William Joseph
4. Sinorice Moss
5. Clint Sintin
Cedric Jones  
FatHeadTommy : 10/3/2022 1:39 pm : link
Eye exam please
RE: Cedric Jones  
johnnyb : 10/3/2022 1:41 pm : link
In comment 15844210 FatHeadTommy said:
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Eye exam please


You beat me to it!

At the very least an honorable mention.
RE: Herman Moore  
Mike in Long Beach : 10/3/2022 1:46 pm : link
In comment 15844110 MartyNJ1969 said:
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Nothing left in the tank when we signed him.


My head went here too.. if only he could've pulled down that Hail Mary against the Texans :)
That POS  
holmancomedown : 10/3/2022 1:55 pm : link
Evan Engram !
RE: RE: Cedric Jones  
RCPhoenix : 10/3/2022 2:00 pm : link
In comment 15844225 johnnyb said:
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Eye exam please



You beat me to it!

At the very least an honorable mention.


He belongs on this list b/c of where he was picked, in front of Terry Glenn, Marvin Harrison, Ray Lewis, and Will Anderson, among others.
lavar Arrington  
fish3321 : 10/3/2022 2:04 pm : link
huge contract. 7 year deal if I remember..... dude to hurt half way through 1st season and retired
Ian Allen  
lawguy9801 : 10/3/2022 2:07 pm : link
He made Ereck Flowers look like Anthony Munoz
RE: How did Tarkenton suck?  
81_Great_Dane : 10/3/2022 2:08 pm : link
In comment 15844192 Larry in Pencilvania said:
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He and Archie Manning invented the run for your life offense
I think the OP was blasting the return the Giants got for trading Tarkenton back to Minnesota.

I think the point of this thread is "Kenny Golladay is the worst player acquisition in Giants history." That may be true.

The thing is, every team has draft busts and mistakes (Derek Brown, Rocky Thompson, DeAndre Baker, yup) bad trades and free agent disasters. Also calamitous injuries (Jason Sehorn). I try to avoid dwelling on them but a lot of fans have PTSD about these things.

I figure, sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, sometimes it rains. Everybody gets lucky now and then (Ahmad Bradshaw) and everybody screws up now and then. Getting lucky doesn't make the GM a genius, screwing up doesn't make the GM an idiot. The good ones make more good decisions and screw up less. If we get that with Schoen, I'll be happy.
RE: CC Brown  
ajr2456 : 10/3/2022 2:09 pm : link
In comment 15844138 Greg from LI said:
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Jesus what a brutal time. Didn’t they bring him back a second time or am I thinking of someone else?
RE: lavar Arrington  
ajr2456 : 10/3/2022 2:10 pm : link
In comment 15844300 fish3321 said:
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huge contract. 7 year deal if I remember..... dude to hurt half way through 1st season and retired


Arrington was at least playing well before the injury if I recall correctly
How did the Giants acquire  
cjac : 10/3/2022 2:11 pm : link
Jeremy Lincoln? Free agent i believe
Trading with Dallas for Craig Morton in 1975  
Snablats : 10/3/2022 2:11 pm : link
and giving up the 2nd overall draft pick, which Dallas turned into Hall of Famer Randy White
Let's try to make a team  
Chris684 : 10/3/2022 2:15 pm : link
LT Ereck Flowers
LG Will Hernandez
C Jon Halapio
RG Patrick Omameh
RT Nate Solder

QB Dave Brown

RB Jonathan Stewart
RB Ron Dayne

WR Brandon Marshall
WR Kenny Golladay
WR Sinorice Moss

TE Evan Engram
TE Brandon Myers

DE Cedric Jones
DT William Joseph
DT Marvin Austin
DE Owa Odighizuwa


LB Carlos Emmons
LB Barrett Green
LB Lorenzo Carter

CB DeAndre Baker
S CC Brown
S Will Demps
CB Sam Beal

Old time list  
US1 Giants : 10/3/2022 2:17 pm : link
Joe Don Looney
Eldrige Small
Rocky Thompson
For the amount of money that they were paid  
giantBCP : 10/3/2022 2:19 pm : link
the signings of Golladay and Solder were the most damaging to this team.
RE: Let's try to make a team  
US1 Giants : 10/3/2022 2:21 pm : link
In comment 15844330 Chris684 said:
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LT Ereck Flowers
LG Will Hernandez
C Jon Halapio
RG Patrick Omameh
RT Nate Solder

QB Dave Brown

RB Jonathan Stewart
RB Ron Dayne

WR Brandon Marshall
WR Kenny Golladay
WR Sinorice Moss

TE Evan Engram
TE Brandon Myers

DE Cedric Jones
DT William Joseph
DT Marvin Austin
DE Owa Odighizuwa


LB Carlos Emmons
LB Barrett Green
LB Lorenzo Carter

CB DeAndre Baker
S CC Brown
S Will Demps
CB Sam Beal


Marvin Austin had an important Super Bowl sack.
RE: How did Tarkenton suck?  
Gman11 : 10/3/2022 2:25 pm : link
In comment 15844192 Larry in Pencilvania said:
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He and Archie Manning invented the run for your life offense


I believe he said trading Tarkenton back to Minnesota, but the Giants got Norm Snead in the trade and went 8-6 before the bottom fell out the next year.
RE: RE: Let's try to make a team  
Chris684 : 10/3/2022 2:35 pm : link
In comment 15844346 US1 Giants said:
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LT Ereck Flowers
LG Will Hernandez
C Jon Halapio
RG Patrick Omameh
RT Nate Solder

QB Dave Brown

RB Jonathan Stewart
RB Ron Dayne

WR Brandon Marshall
WR Kenny Golladay
WR Sinorice Moss

TE Evan Engram
TE Brandon Myers

DE Cedric Jones
DT William Joseph
DT Marvin Austin
DE Owa Odighizuwa


LB Carlos Emmons
LB Barrett Green
LB Lorenzo Carter

CB DeAndre Baker
S CC Brown
S Will Demps
CB Sam Beal




Marvin Austin had an important Super Bowl sack.


No he didn't. You're thinking of Jay Alford.
How about the legendary Rodrick Babers?  
mfsd : 10/3/2022 2:42 pm : link
4th round pick, not the worst waste of a pick by a stretch, but he got cut during his first training camp. Think he played in 2 NFL games the following season with the Lions, that was his career
RE: CC Brown  
BillHungg : 10/3/2022 3:04 pm : link
In comment 15844138 Greg from LI said:
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Amazing reference. Forgot this guy. Awful.
RE: RE: Let's try to make a team  
Mike in NY : 10/3/2022 3:08 pm : link
In comment 15844346 US1 Giants said:
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LT Ereck Flowers
LG Will Hernandez
C Jon Halapio
RG Patrick Omameh
RT Nate Solder

QB Dave Brown

RB Jonathan Stewart
RB Ron Dayne

WR Brandon Marshall
WR Kenny Golladay
WR Sinorice Moss

TE Evan Engram
TE Brandon Myers

DE Cedric Jones
DT William Joseph
DT Marvin Austin
DE Owa Odighizuwa


LB Carlos Emmons
LB Barrett Green
LB Lorenzo Carter

CB DeAndre Baker
S CC Brown
S Will Demps
CB Sam Beal




Marvin Austin had an important Super Bowl sack.


Jay Alford had the sack late in 4th Quarter versus Tom Brady. I would also consider Tim Carter or Thomas Lewis at WR.
RE: RE: How did Tarkenton suck?  
Jim in Fairfax : 10/3/2022 3:18 pm : link
In comment 15844358 Gman11 said:
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In comment 15844192 Larry in Pencilvania said:


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He and Archie Manning invented the run for your life offense



I believe he said trading Tarkenton back to Minnesota, but the Giants got Norm Snead in the trade and went 8-6 before the bottom fell out the next year.

They also got a first round pick which they drafted Brad Van Pelt with.

The team got old and had little talent, especially on offense. It was going to be bad, and Tarkenton wasn’t going to save it.
RE: RE: Let's try to make a team  
Bleedblue10 : 10/3/2022 3:46 pm : link
In comment 15844346 US1 Giants said:
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LT Ereck Flowers
LG Will Hernandez
C Jon Halapio
RG Patrick Omameh
RT Nate Solder

QB Dave Brown

RB Jonathan Stewart
RB Ron Dayne

WR Brandon Marshall
WR Kenny Golladay
WR Sinorice Moss

TE Evan Engram
TE Brandon Myers

DE Cedric Jones
DT William Joseph
DT Marvin Austin
DE Owa Odighizuwa


LB Carlos Emmons
LB Barrett Green
LB Lorenzo Carter

CB DeAndre Baker
S CC Brown
S Will Demps
CB Sam Beal




Marvin Austin had an important Super Bowl sack.


That was William Joseph
RE: Let's try to make a team  
jnoble : 10/3/2022 3:50 pm : link
In comment 15844330 Chris684 said:
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LT Ereck Flowers
LG Will Hernandez
C Jon Halapio
RG Patrick Omameh
RT Nate Solder

QB Dave Brown

RB Jonathan Stewart
RB Ron Dayne

WR Brandon Marshall
WR Kenny Golladay
WR Sinorice Moss

TE Evan Engram
TE Brandon Myers

DE Cedric Jones
DT William Joseph
DT Marvin Austin
DE Owa Odighizuwa


LB Carlos Emmons
LB Barrett Green
LB Lorenzo Carter

CB DeAndre Baker
S CC Brown
S Will Demps
CB Sam Beal


I'd put Tom Maddox or Mike Glennon on that list instead of Brown. I know he wasn't a great quarterback but I don't think he was quite as bad as some here made him out to be and he played his ass off for us on some pretty bad teams so I'm always willing to give Dave B a break
RE: CC Brown  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 10/3/2022 3:53 pm : link
In comment 15844138 Greg from LI said:
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I remember when the post said something to the effect of "CC stands for can't cover"
RE: CC Brown  
j_rud : 10/3/2022 4:11 pm : link
In comment 15844138 Greg from LI said:
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I don't understand how it took even 14 minutes for his name to come up. That 09 season is an all time worst by any Giant regardless of position, at least in my life time.

I mean, he made most of us forget about Will Demps. You have any goddamn idea how hard that is? It's like forgetting about a famine because it's now raining sulphur.
Most of you are probably to young to remember Craig Morton  
loafin : 10/3/2022 4:19 pm : link
We gave the Cowboys the 2nd pick in the draft who turned out to be Randy White!

Far worse than Dave Brown just because the trade helped the Cowboys so much!

RE: RE: CC Brown  
OntheRoad : 10/3/2022 4:53 pm : link

And don't forget Aaron Ross's evil twin Aaron Rouse, the only player on the field worse than CC Brown.
Trey Jenkins LS  
yalebowl : 10/3/2022 9:49 pm : link
Clifton McNeil. WR
Matt Hazeltine. LB
Ralph Gugilemo QB


Flowers  
Professor Falken : 10/3/2022 9:52 pm : link
and Apple. Back-to-back horrendous top 10 picks.
RE: RE: RE: Let's try to make a team  
Greg from LI : 10/3/2022 10:41 pm : link
In comment 15844501 Bleedblue10 said:
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LT Ereck Flowers
LG Will Hernandez
C Jon Halapio
RG Patrick Omameh
RT Nate Solder

QB Dave Brown

RB Jonathan Stewart
RB Ron Dayne

WR Brandon Marshall
WR Kenny Golladay
WR Sinorice Moss

TE Evan Engram
TE Brandon Myers

DE Cedric Jones
DT William Joseph
DT Marvin Austin
DE Owa Odighizuwa


LB Carlos Emmons
LB Barrett Green
LB Lorenzo Carter

CB DeAndre Baker
S CC Brown
S Will Demps
CB Sam Beal




Marvin Austin had an important Super Bowl sack.



That was William Joseph


Neither of them played in the Super Bowl. Jay Alford had a Super Bowl sack
You forgot  
bwitz : 10/3/2022 10:48 pm : link
Mister “Just like getting a first round pick” Jabril Peppers.

Just awful. Fuck you, Dave Gettleman.
drafted or signed  
JesseS : 10/4/2022 9:10 am : link
is every giant player ever.......

You're basically saying who are the worst giants of all time.
...  
GP : 10/4/2022 9:14 am : link
logged in to add Rueben Randle to the list of suck. Fuck that guy.
Here's another one I just remembered  
lawguy9801 : 10/4/2022 1:15 pm : link
We had Unai Unga start several games at MLB in 2015.
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