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AJ Klein signing per Fowler

mort christenson : 10/3/2022 4:21 pm
Probably means no Collins
What is Klein's skillset  
Angel Eyes : 10/3/2022 4:25 pm : link
?
He was with the Bills  
JoeyBigBlue : 10/3/2022 4:25 pm : link
For the last 2 seasons, so he was the Schoen and Daboll connection. I’m expecting Calitro to be released with this move.
Color me intrigued  
BlueHurricane : 10/3/2022 4:25 pm : link
Not far away from being a very productive player for the Bills. Cap casualty this season. Lets see how much meat he has on the tires.
Edit  
JoeyBigBlue : 10/3/2022 4:25 pm : link
So he has*
RE: Color me intrigued  
mort christenson : 10/3/2022 4:27 pm : link
In comment 15844571 BlueHurricane said:
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Not far away from being a very productive player for the Bills. Cap casualty this season. Lets see how much meat he has on the tires.
That is quite the mixed metaphor.
He's  
Toth029 : 10/3/2022 4:33 pm : link
A capable player but long in the tooth.

Do they cut Calitro now?
Collins doesn't want to play LB  
JonC : 10/3/2022 4:34 pm : link
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Found this when a Bills  
5BowlsSoon : 10/3/2022 4:34 pm : link
I found this…..

An accomplished third linebacker for a defensive system in which the Buffalo Bills use only two around 90% of the time proved to be too much of a luxury going forward when the team released A.J. Klein on Tuesday.
Klein, 30, was due a base salary of $4.2 million and had a total salary cap hit of $5.5 million. The move cleared $5.1 million of cap space for the Bills, who started the day around $6.5 million over the cap, according to general manager Brandon Beane in a radio interview on WGR 550.
The NFL on Monday determined the 2022 cap to be $208.2 million.
Klein was not just the third linebacker, however. He played all the spots, filling in for starters Matt Milano and Tremaine Edmunds when they weren't available. In his two seasons with the Bills after coming over from the New Orleans Saints, Klein produced 110 tackles, including nine for losses, to go with 5.0 sacks, an interception and two forced fumbles in 31 games (15 starts).
With this many injuries you have to circle the wagons.  
BlueHurricane : 10/3/2022 4:36 pm : link
Anyone with a pulse can most likely cut the mustard better than Calitro.
RE: Collins doesn't want to play LB  
guitarguybs12 : 10/3/2022 4:38 pm : link
In comment 15844587 JonC said:
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thanks for the info! what a fool, here's a team probably willing to actually sign his mediocre ass off the couch... and he's being stubborn about with where he plays.
He Was  
prh : 10/3/2022 4:39 pm : link
A Gettleman pick in Carolina.
Collins  
Toth029 : 10/3/2022 4:39 pm : link
Got into it IIRC with Rivera over switching to LB.

Dude is out of the league right now. He's not too smart in regards to this.
RE: With this many injuries you have to circle the wagons.  
81_Great_Dane : 10/3/2022 4:40 pm : link
In comment 15844591 BlueHurricane said:
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Anyone with a pulse can most likely cut the mustard better than Calitro.
IIRC some BBIers were posting similar thoughts about Tae Crowder a week ago.
maybe he doesn't want to play LBer?  
UConn4523 : 10/3/2022 4:40 pm : link
he's made a fortune - I respect coming back and putting your body on the line on your terms only.
4 games in and already getting up against the cap again...  
guitarguybs12 : 10/3/2022 4:49 pm : link
OTC says the Veteran Minimum for him is ~$1.1M (excluding any signing bonus)

...which takes the Giants down to ~3M in Cap Space for the rest of the season already. Yikes.
The tweet...  
FranknWeezer : 10/3/2022 4:52 pm : link
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Jeremy Fowler
@JFowlerESPN
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32m
The #Giants are signing free agent linebacker A.J. Klein, per source. Long-time NFL starter has had several suitors but reunites with GM Joe Schoen and HC Brian Daboll from Buffalo days. Most likely starts on P-squad with quick call-up.
RE: He Was  
broadbandz : 10/3/2022 4:52 pm : link
In comment 15844596 prh said:
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A Gettleman pick in Carolina.


da gettlegod
imagine being out of work, a company comes looking for you and  
gtt350 : 10/3/2022 4:56 pm : link
offers you 1.1 million for 4 months work. Sign me up
RE: 4 games in and already getting up against the cap again...  
Pepe LePugh : 10/3/2022 5:06 pm : link
In comment 15844613 guitarguybs12 said:
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OTC says the Veteran Minimum for him is ~$1.1M (excluding any signing bonus)


Not paying for a full year. 1/18th of vet minimum per week, and can be released any time I think. Or sent down to PS, with max $19,400 per week.
Does Collins STILL not want to play LB?  
Snablats : 10/3/2022 5:15 pm : link
or is this just rehashing old news from his Redskin and Giant days?

In other words, are you hearing this currently?
Sounds like a Clothing Store  
averagejoe : 10/3/2022 5:24 pm : link
I bet he is well dressed
RE: Does Collins STILL not want to play LB?  
John In CO : 10/3/2022 5:26 pm : link
In comment 15844644 Snablats said:
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or is this just rehashing old news from his Redskin and Giant days?

In other words, are you hearing this currently?


I keep seeing this in this thread, but I havent seen a link to a reliable source. Perhaps this is true, but for all we know, he could be a shot player and failed the audition. I find it hard to believe that a guy who is out of work would be offered work and turn it down because he isnt happy about the position offered, at least not unless he has other options
Landon  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 10/3/2022 5:45 pm : link
Collins stunk in Washington...just ask their fans if you don't believe me.

Meanwhile..
AJ Klein Highlights Week 10 - ( New Window )
low key decent move  
DavidinBMNY : 10/3/2022 5:49 pm : link
The way I look at it, some of these moves are about cap management. Everything now is
a) pro-rated
b) not guarenteed

So whomever they add isn't going to cost a lot.

a couple of highlights  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 10/3/2022 5:50 pm : link
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A.J. Klein Takes the ball out of Russell Wilson’s hands | Week 9 2020 NFL - ( New Window )
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 10/3/2022 5:51 pm : link
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Saints AJ Klein with a PICK 6 TD on Will Grier 😱😱😱 - ( New Window )
Practice Squad  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 10/3/2022 6:14 pm : link
Dan Salomone
@Dan_Salomone
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2m
The Giants signed veteran LB A.J. Klein to their practice squad.
RE: Practice Squad  
Anakim : 10/3/2022 6:30 pm : link
In comment 15844736 Eric from BBI said:
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Dan Salomone
@Dan_Salomone
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2m
The Giants signed veteran LB A.J. Klein to their practice squad.


Was Mondieux placed on IR?
anak  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 10/3/2022 6:55 pm : link
no, see Daboll's press conference.
...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/3/2022 7:01 pm : link
It wasn't that long ago that Collins was in the mix for DPOY. Man, the joke that the NFL stands for Not For Long is apt.
Question  
eli4life : 10/3/2022 7:01 pm : link
Ok we signed him to the practice squad with a call up I’d assume fairly quickly but is he protected or can someone snag him before he’s called up
RE: RE: Color me intrigued  
JohnG in Albany : 10/3/2022 7:13 pm : link
In comment 15844577 mort christenson said:
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Not far away from being a very productive player for the Bills. Cap casualty this season. Lets see how much meat he has on the tires.

That is quite the mixed metaphor.


Yogi Berra and Ralph Kiner would've been proud. *grin*

RE: Color me intrigued  
igotyourbackman : 10/3/2022 7:23 pm : link
In comment 15844571 BlueHurricane said:
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Not far away from being a very productive player for the Bills. Cap casualty this season. Lets see how much meat he has on the tires.

Meat in the bone. Tread on the tires. Whatever!
RE: RE: Color me intrigued  
GiantSteps : 10/3/2022 7:30 pm : link
In comment 15844878 igotyourbackman said:
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In comment 15844571 BlueHurricane said:


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Not far away from being a very productive player for the Bills. Cap casualty this season. Lets see how much meat he has on the tires.


Meat in the bone. Tread on the tires. Whatever!



Lol. I believe the phrase is "kick the meats?"
RE: Landon  
JerseyCityJoe : 10/3/2022 8:05 pm : link
In comment 15844685 Eric from BBI said:
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Collins stunk in Washington...just ask their fans if you don't believe me.

Meanwhile.. AJ Klein Highlights Week 10 - ( New Window )

To be fair, Washington fans think everyone on their team stinks.
Collins was done  
David B. : 10/3/2022 8:14 pm : link
When he left here the first time.
RE: RE: Color me intrigued  
GMen72 : 10/3/2022 8:24 pm : link
In comment 15844577 mort christenson said:
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In comment 15844571 BlueHurricane said:


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Not far away from being a very productive player for the Bills. Cap casualty this season. Lets see how much meat he has on the tires.

That is quite the mixed metaphor.


Ha! When someone leaves a putt short..."Little tread left on that bone!"
RE: Collins was done  
islander1 : 10/3/2022 9:30 pm : link
In comment 15844975 David B. said:
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When he left here the first time.


That is one skill I would never question Jerry Reese about.

He always seemed to know right before a player would break down.
RE: Landon  
capone : 10/3/2022 9:37 pm : link
In comment 15844685 Eric from BBI said:
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Collins stunk in Washington...just ask their fans if you don't believe me.

Meanwhile.. AJ Klein Highlights Week 10 - ( New Window )


I’m not a football nerd but isn’t that impressive for one game if highlights to be in so many plays ?
interesting line from a pff blurb on him from the offseason  
Eric on Li : 10/3/2022 10:37 pm : link
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LB A.J. KLEIN
Klein saw his role decrease significantly in 2021 with the Bills due to a combination of a healthy Matt Milano and disappointing play in his first year with the team (2020). The 30-year-old linebacker posted a 46.4 PFF grade across 692 snaps in 2020 — which featured a bottom-three 29.7 run defense grade — and then followed it up with a 48.9 overall mark across 299 snaps in 2021. Klein fits best as a backup in a blitz-heavy scheme, but asking him to even serve in that limited role is a risky bet to make. He has earned a sub-50.0 PFF grade in five of his last six seasons with three different teams.


the fact that they only added him now and not even for camp would lead me to believe he's a very limited player at this point.
2022 NFL Free Agency: Analyzing the value of the latest roster cuts - ( New Window )
RE: Collins doesn't want to play LB  
allstarjim : 10/3/2022 10:52 pm : link
In comment 15844587 JonC said:
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Jon, buddy you have a way of saying things like you know, but can't say how you know. I appreciate ya.
RE: RE: Collins doesn't want to play LB  
Snablats : 10/3/2022 11:41 pm : link
In comment 15845196 allstarjim said:
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Jon, buddy you have a way of saying things like you know, but can't say how you know. I appreciate ya.

But he didnt answer if this is current info or just rehashing his old comments from years ago
I know it was a long time ago, but he did run a 4.66 40 and bench  
Ira : 10/4/2022 7:24 am : link
press 225 20 times at his combine. He's 31 now, but my guess is that he can still play. I like this signing.
Looks bigger than Crowder and he can tackle  
Dinger : 10/4/2022 7:43 am : link
Maybe not as fast?
RE: RE: RE: Collins doesn't want to play LB  
Jim in Tampa : 10/4/2022 9:16 am : link
In comment 15845232 Snablats said:
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Jon, buddy you have a way of saying things like you know, but can't say how you know. I appreciate ya.


But he didnt answer if this is current info or just rehashing his old comments from years ago

I can't imagine that this info is both current AND relevant.

Think about it. If the Giants knew that Collins had previously suggested that he didn't want to play LB... AND the Giants only wanted Collins as a LB, the two parties would have hashed that out on the phone (or through Collins' agent) BEFORE Collins came in for a visit.
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