Well, this is rather anticlimactic. The Mets' chances to win the division are down to 3%, according to
PlayoffStatus.com. The Braves have a mafic number of 1. Any combination of a single Mets loss and a Braves win sews up the NL East for Atlanta. Quite frankly from both perspectives: the sooner, the better. The Braves are in Miami tonight against the Marlins and are ready to finish this division up. The Mets are back in Flushing hosting the worst team in MLB for a three-game set---the same team that beat them two out of three games at Citi Field about a month ago after that huge Dodgers series.
In any case, the Mets are gonna play tonight normally, but the reality of the situation is that it's time to focus on the WC round starting on Friday. It'll be a best of three from Citi Field for all of the games necessary needed (two or three) before the NLDS. AS the #4 seed, the Mets will play the #5 seed---either the Padres or the Phillies. According to
PlyoffStatus.com, the odds are that it'll be the Padres (85%) rather than the Phillies (15%). Walker is pitching tomorrow, and deGrom will be bypassed on Wednesday---assuming the division is clinched today or tomorrow by the Braves--and the regular season finale will be a bullpen committee game. In any case, Vogelbach is DHing against the righty and Nido is catching. We'll probably see Alvarez this series catching at some point, but let's wait and see. Hopefully Marte continues to improve. I have a feeling he won't be available for the WC round either (he was hit in Pittsburgh on September 6th). Let's see what happens. Lineup and Starting pitchers are below. At least the game is back on SNY today...
Starting Lineups and Pitchers - 10.3.22 - Nats @ Mets - 7:10 pm EST start from Citi Field
#LFGM...(I guess, lol)
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The bright side is that there will be playoff baseball at Citifield this Friday night. We know that for a fact. Beyond that, if we should be so lucky, we get the Dodgers who we actually played pretty well this season. It would be silly to look beyond that at this point but if we do happen to face the Braves again at least it would mean we made the NLCS and playing great hall again.
Braves at Marlins - 10.3.22 - 6:40 PM EST start from Miami - TV: Braves feed
But sitting some key guys will be like a subtle jab that 'you guys failed' (including the manager!), it's down to the Wild Card for us. Just rest them because it's going to be a long slog for us to advance down the line. I bet we even win more games with the backups.
Really disappointing, as bad as the Rangers collapse last postseason...
It hasn't been said enough, Optimus - we apll appreciate you doing these threads...
The concerning thing is, the Braves are the defending champs, and they still wanted it more than us! How depressing is that? After their slight WS hangover, they hunkered down and got to business. While we peaked too early. Buck seriously needs to adjust that next season.
Nats @ Mets - 10.3.22 - 7:10 pm EST start from Flushing - TV: SNY (Gary & Ron) - Mets feed - freestreams
Nats @ Mets - 10.3.22 - 7:10 pm EST start from Flushing - TV: Nats feed - freestreams
Gameday Box Score - mlb.com - Nats at Mets - 7:10 pm EST start from Flushing
It hasn't been said enough, Optimus - we apll appreciate you doing these threads...
De nada. It's all about the banter at the end of the day. We have a nice lil community here :-) I hope the Braves wins tonight and end this thing (sounds weird, doesn't it? lol). There's gonna be a rain delay for the game tonight. O hope they just cancel it and have a double header tomorrow and the Braves take care of business tonight in Miami and officially end this charade. The Mets have a three percent chance of winning the division. I'd rather it be zero by the end of tonight so that things are legitimately over and done with and definitive planning can be made for the last two days as well as the post-season roster.
Hit Vientos, Alvarez, and other struggling vet players.
Judge, Escobar named top players for September - by Thomas Harrigan (@HarriganMLB) - mlb.com - 10/3/22 - ( New Window )
What an incredible turn around that would be.
What an incredible turn around that would be.
3 percent chance of that happening.
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With the Marlins, and the Mets swept WA?
What an incredible turn around that would be.
3 percent chance of that happening.
Yes, I understand that. I'm asking about a fantasy, a miracle, something beyonf rational belief. How incredible that would be.
Who knows? I think they fibbed about the finger injury the whole time. We may not see Marte at all for the rest of the year. Best case scenario is we see him in the NLDS. We're not seeing him for this series against the Nats or the WC round/best of three series starting on Friday.
His loss was no doubt big. But not sure how much help he would have been. The one cubs game was 6-0 after 1 innings, when Cookie completely sucked. I'd hate to think this offense was so co-dependent on one guy, but he was definitely missed.
Oh, well. They made their bed, now they have to lie in it...
Mike reacts to NY Mets getting swept by the Atlanta Braves - Mike Francesa Podcast - ( New Window )
Judge, Escobar named top players for September - by Thomas Harrigan (@HarriganMLB) - mlb.com - 10/3/22 - ( New Window )
Good for him. I've been riding him all season, glad to see he finally got hot. As much as we want to cry about the cubs sweep and being 2-6 vs CHI, MIA and WAS in september, the fact is we don't win a few september games without him. So I guess it washes out in the end (not completely, but partially).
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With the Marlins, and the Mets swept WA?
What an incredible turn around that would be.
3 percent chance of that happening.
Yes, I understand that. I'm asking about a fantasy, a miracle, something beyonf rational belief. How incredible that would be.
Not many stranger things have happened, lol. The Mets are gonna play it normally tonight--if they play. That's why I hope the Braves just end the thing so the Mets can officially move on. It would be weird to get Wednesday with hope for the division still and deGrom available. They still wouldn't pitch him in that scenario though I don't think.
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With the Marlins, and the Mets swept WA?
What an incredible turn around that would be.
3 percent chance of that happening.
Yes, I understand that. I'm asking about a fantasy, a miracle, something beyonf rational belief. How incredible that would be.
Not many stranger things have happened, lol. The Mets are gonna play it normally tonight--if they play. That's why I hope the Braves just end the thing so the Mets can officially move on. It would be weird to get Wednesday with hope for the division still and deGrom available. They still wouldn't pitch him in that scenario though I don't think.
Wasn't the game officially cancelled? That's what yahoo sports app says
Strange and unpredictable things happen in lfe, things that can't necessarily be accounted for.
Do I think everything will fall into place, at the last moment, for their benefit? No, only a crazy person woul'd think that. LOL.
But life sometimes takes strange twists and turns, as we've all just witnessed.
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With the Marlins, and the Mets swept WA?
What an incredible turn around that would be.
3 percent chance of that happening.
Yes, I understand that. I'm asking about a fantasy, a miracle, something beyonf rational belief. How incredible that would be.
Not many stranger things have happened, lol. The Mets are gonna play it normally tonight--if they play. That's why I hope the Braves just end the thing so the Mets can officially move on. It would be weird to get Wednesday with hope for the division still and deGrom available. They still wouldn't pitch him in that scenario though I don't think.
Wasn't the game officially cancelled? That's what yahoo sports app says
According to MLB, it was officially ppd.
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With the Marlins, and the Mets swept WA?
What an incredible turn around that would be.
3 percent chance of that happening.
Yes, I understand that. I'm asking about a fantasy, a miracle, something beyonf rational belief. How incredible that would be.
Not many stranger things have happened, lol. The Mets are gonna play it normally tonight--if they play. That's why I hope the Braves just end the thing so the Mets can officially move on. It would be weird to get Wednesday with hope for the division still and deGrom available. They still wouldn't pitch him in that scenario though I don't think.
Wasn't the game officially cancelled? That's what yahoo sports app says
According to MLB, it was officially ppd.
According to MLB.TV, first game tomorrow is at 4:10, second game is later(duh!).
Strange and unpredictable things happen in lfe, things that can't necessarily be accounted for.
Do I think everything will fall into place, at the last moment, for their benefit? No, only a crazy person woul'd think that. LOL.
But life sometimes takes strange twists and turns, as we've all just witnessed.
While I would love it, at this point I'd rather it be over, so they can sit some guys, keep the ideal rotation, etc.
It would be the worst of both worlds for them to still be in it Wednesday and have to play hard and win the game, only to see ATL win and clinch anyway.
But like I said, I want them to just end it at this point.
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Thetn I think abiut how it was similarly unlikely that they would fall out of 1st place, as they have.
Strange and unpredictable things happen in lfe, things that can't necessarily be accounted for.
Do I think everything will fall into place, at the last moment, for their benefit? No, only a crazy person woul'd think that. LOL.
But life sometimes takes strange twists and turns, as we've all just witnessed.
While I would love it, at this point I'd rather it be over, so they can sit some guys, keep the ideal rotation, etc.
It would be the worst of both worlds for them to still be in it Wednesday and have to play hard and win the game, only to see ATL win and clinch anyway.
Speedy, you are right Sir. You are the voice of logic and rationality, and I should behave myself😁
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Thetn I think abiut how it was similarly unlikely that they would fall out of 1st place, as they have.
Strange and unpredictable things happen in lfe, things that can't necessarily be accounted for.
Do I think everything will fall into place, at the last moment, for their benefit? No, only a crazy person woul'd think that. LOL.
But life sometimes takes strange twists and turns, as we've all just witnessed.
While I would love it, at this point I'd rather it be over, so they can sit some guys, keep the ideal rotation, etc.
It would be the worst of both worlds for them to still be in it Wednesday and have to play hard and win the game, only to see ATL win and clinch anyway.
Speedy, you are right Sir. You are the voice of logic and rationality, and I should behave myself😁
But no, you are not crazy for hoping for it to happen! :-)
"Monday’s series opener against the Nationals was postponed due to a steady rain that fell across the tri-state area throughout the afternoon and evening. The teams plan to make up the game as part of a single-admission doubleheader on Tuesday starting at 4:10 p.m. ET."
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Optimus, I understand, and you're right. I was stupid to eeven mention the possibility of that happening. A pipe dream. I would delete my post if I could.
Agree. If winning the game meant winning the division I'd say start him, but since ATL can clinch simply by winning, might as well save him for WC game 1.
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re: the Mets' chances to still win the division. Believe me, it's still in my head, but I'm just tempering my expectations.....by a LOT, lol. The interesting scenario os this: What if the Mets win both games tomorrow and the Marlins win tonight (like they are now) and tomorrow? The Mets have deGrom scheduled to pitch on Wednesday in that scenario on 5 days rest. They'd still need the Braves to get swept by the Fish in Miami though. I STILL don't think the Mets would throw deGrom in that scenario and would opt for a bullpen game. It would be too big of a risk because they'd need him for Friday or Saturday.
Optimus, I understand, and you're right. I was stupid to eeven mention the possibility of that happening. A pipe dream. I would delete my post if I could.
Not stupid at all! I feel the same exact way, I'm just bottling it up. I would play tomorrow's doubleheader normally if that hope still exists. The issue would be Wednesday if the Mets are still alive for the division. Can't throw Jake under those circumstances, but the Mets could still easily win a bullpen game and hope for the best. Too bad Alcantara was shut down by the Marlenes a few days ago, despite Mattingly saying that wouldn't happen only days before that. Alcantara was scheduled to pitch on Wednesday. Now THAT would have been dramatic!
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re: the Mets' chances to still win the division. Believe me, it's still in my head, but I'm just tempering my expectations.....by a LOT, lol. The interesting scenario os this: What if the Mets win both games tomorrow and the Marlins win tonight (like they are now) and tomorrow? The Mets have deGrom scheduled to pitch on Wednesday in that scenario on 5 days rest. They'd still need the Braves to get swept by the Fish in Miami though. I STILL don't think the Mets would throw deGrom in that scenario and would opt for a bullpen game. It would be too big of a risk because they'd need him for Friday or Saturday.
Agree. If winning the game meant winning the division I'd say start him, but since ATL can clinch simply by winning, might as well save him for WC game 1.
The only circumstances that would have existed for me to pitch deGrom on Wednesday would have been if the Mets had their complete destiny in their own hands. They don't, even if the Mets get to Wednesday with a chance still. That's why those blown games to to the Cubs and Nats last month hurt so much. The Mets blew the division more than the Braves won it.
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re: the Mets' chances to still win the division. Believe me, it's still in my head, but I'm just tempering my expectations.....by a LOT, lol. The interesting scenario os this: What if the Mets win both games tomorrow and the Marlins win tonight (like they are now) and tomorrow? The Mets have deGrom scheduled to pitch on Wednesday in that scenario on 5 days rest. They'd still need the Braves to get swept by the Fish in Miami though. I STILL don't think the Mets would throw deGrom in that scenario and would opt for a bullpen game. It would be too big of a risk because they'd need him for Friday or Saturday.
Optimus, I understand, and you're right. I was stupid to eeven mention the possibility of that happening. A pipe dream. I would delete my post if I could.
Not stupid at all! I feel the same exact way, I'm just bottling it up. I would play tomorrow's doubleheader normally if that hope still exists. The issue would be Wednesday if the Mets are still alive for the division. Can't throw Jake under those circumstances, but the Mets could still easily win a bullpen game and hope for the best. Too bad Alcantara was shut down by the Marlenes a few days ago, despite Mattingly saying that wouldn't happen only days before that. Alcantara was scheduled to pitch on Wednesday. Now THAT would have been dramatic!
Yeah, MIA is a bunch of pussies for doing that.
Instead of a pen game, I would start Peterson or McGill and them throw as much as they can. I know they have been "training" to be a pen guy, but they both have sucked in that role so far - not surprising given they have been starters most of their career - so I say let them start and see how far they get.
But again, this is all pipe dream stuff.
I wouldn't put it past ATL to rally and win this game, LOL...
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re: the Mets' chances to still win the division. Believe me, it's still in my head, but I'm just tempering my expectations.....by a LOT, lol. The interesting scenario os this: What if the Mets win both games tomorrow and the Marlins win tonight (like they are now) and tomorrow? The Mets have deGrom scheduled to pitch on Wednesday in that scenario on 5 days rest. They'd still need the Braves to get swept by the Fish in Miami though. I STILL don't think the Mets would throw deGrom in that scenario and would opt for a bullpen game. It would be too big of a risk because they'd need him for Friday or Saturday.
Agree. If winning the game meant winning the division I'd say start him, but since ATL can clinch simply by winning, might as well save him for WC game 1.
The only circumstances that would have existed for me to pitch deGrom on Wednesday would have been if the Mets had their complete destiny in their own hands. They don't, even if the Mets get to Wednesday with a chance still. That's why those blown games to to the Cubs and Nats last month hurt so much. The Mets blew the division more than the Braves won it.
Yep. Nevermind he CHI/WAS/MIA thing - if they had simply won ONE FUCKING GAME this weekend, they would still have controlled their own destiny.
But alas, they didn't, so here we are.
GRRRRRRR....
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re: the Mets' chances to still win the division. Believe me, it's still in my head, but I'm just tempering my expectations.....by a LOT, lol. The interesting scenario os this: What if the Mets win both games tomorrow and the Marlins win tonight (like they are now) and tomorrow? The Mets have deGrom scheduled to pitch on Wednesday in that scenario on 5 days rest. They'd still need the Braves to get swept by the Fish in Miami though. I STILL don't think the Mets would throw deGrom in that scenario and would opt for a bullpen game. It would be too big of a risk because they'd need him for Friday or Saturday.
Optimus, I understand, and you're right. I was stupid to eeven mention the possibility of that happening. A pipe dream. I would delete my post if I could.
Not stupid at all! I feel the same exact way, I'm just bottling it up. I would play tomorrow's doubleheader normally if that hope still exists. The issue would be Wednesday if the Mets are still alive for the division. Can't throw Jake under those circumstances, but the Mets could still easily win a bullpen game and hope for the best. Too bad Alcantara was shut down by the Marlenes a few days ago, despite Mattingly saying that wouldn't happen only days before that. Alcantara was scheduled to pitch on Wednesday. Now THAT would have been dramatic!
Yeah, MIA is a bunch of pussies for doing that.
Instead of a pen game, I would start Peterson or McGill and them throw as much as they can. I know they have been "training" to be a pen guy, but they both have sucked in that role so far - not surprising given they have been starters most of their career - so I say let them start and see how far they get.
But again, this is all pipe dream stuff.
I wouldn't put it past ATL to rally and win this game, LOL...
Peterson pitched on Saturday for an inning or two I think, but he could still pitch on Wednesday in that scenario. I think we see him either way. Megill is a guy I don't trsut at all at this point though. Funnily enough, Drew Smith has picked it up lately, especially against the Marlins on Wednesday at Citi in that dramatic Escobar comeback game in extras.
Peterson pitched on Saturday for an inning or two I think, but he could still pitch on Wednesday in that scenario. I think we see him either way. Megill is a guy I don't trsut at all at this point though. Funnily enough, Drew Smith has picked it up lately, especially against the Marlins on Wednesday at Citi in that dramatic Escobar comeback game in extras.
He threw 2/3 of an inning Saturday, so he should be good to throw a decent amount of pitches on Wednesday.
But again, we are getting waaaaaaaaay ahead of ourselves.
Personally, I think ATL is throwing this game just to fuck with the Mets, haha...
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Peterson pitched on Saturday for an inning or two I think, but he could still pitch on Wednesday in that scenario. I think we see him either way. Megill is a guy I don't trsut at all at this point though. Funnily enough, Drew Smith has picked it up lately, especially against the Marlins on Wednesday at Citi in that dramatic Escobar comeback game in extras.
He threw 2/3 of an inning Saturday, so he should be good to throw a decent amount of pitches on Wednesday.
But again, we are getting waaaaaaaaay ahead of ourselves.
Personally, I think ATL is throwing this game just to fuck with the Mets, haha...
Thanks about Peterson. I'm already starting to put the series ut of my mind. It would be in the Mets' and Braves' best interests for the division race to end ASAP---tonight. Watch it go until Wednesday and the Fish not have Alcantara on the mound since he was shut down for the season already. What an embarrassment of a franchise the Marlins are.
I mean it from my heart.
Dennis