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Rookie Tiki

ChrisRick : 10/4/2022 1:45 pm
I was watching 1997 Week 1 Eagles at Giants in bed last night. Jim Fassel's first game as a head coach in the NFL. Many rookie's first games: Tiki, Ike, Sam Garnes. I cut out these plays that happened back to back right before the end of the first half to help give the Giants a 14-3 lead.

Certainly a preview of what to come from a Great Giant!
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Didn't Garnes have a pick 6 in that game?  
Greg from LI : 10/4/2022 1:48 pm : link
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ChrisRick : 10/4/2022 1:49 pm : link
95 yards. Fox brought a nice blitz that rushed Peete into a throw. Eagles were down 24-3, they came back to get it to 24-17 before the pick 6.
If I remember correctly Fassal wanted Tiki in the first round, but  
Grey Pilgrim : 10/4/2022 1:50 pm : link
Was overruled and the GIANTS took Ike Hillard.

Was there  
Aaroninma : 10/4/2022 1:50 pm : link
Gorgeous day, princess diana was killed that AM.

Garnes sealed it with a 95yrd INT
Ha very cool  
Johnny5 : 10/4/2022 1:50 pm : link
I know a lot of fans soured on Tiki after he retired. I mean I did a bit too.... but... he still remains one of my all time favorite Giants.
I can't even tell you how exciting them drafting Tiki was  
Greg from LI : 10/4/2022 1:51 pm : link
I was still at UVA in 1997 and had watched Tiki play every home game in 1995-96. He was electric in college. I got to see my favorite college player drafted by my favorite pro team. It was so cool.
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ChrisRick : 10/4/2022 1:54 pm : link
The Giants racked up like 6 sacks in one quarter in that game.
another Tiki moment  
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/4/2022 2:28 pm : link
Still bothers me Bettis is in Canton and Tiki isn't.
RE: If I remember correctly Fassal wanted Tiki in the first round, but  
Mad Mike : 10/4/2022 2:29 pm : link
In comment 15845856 Grey Pilgrim said:
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Was overruled and the GIANTS took Ike Hillard.

That's not how it was reported. Young wanted Tiki, but Fassel and Accorsi pushed for Hilliard, arguing, correctly it turned out, that Tiki would likely be there a round later.
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djm : 10/4/2022 2:50 pm : link
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Still mad? He didn’t even criticize him he said he was more of a joker than a fiery leader but people love to hate.
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Greg from LI : 10/4/2022 2:52 pm : link
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Christ, get over it already
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Banks : 10/4/2022 2:55 pm : link
I wanted him off the team after 99 and apparently that was the plan. I'm glad they kept him. He's one of my favorite Giants of all time and under Coughlin he was electric more than ever. I always thought people overreacted to his comments. I didn't care all that much.
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ChrisRick : 10/4/2022 3:06 pm : link
In comment 15845970 Banks said:
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I wanted him off the team after 99 and apparently that was the plan. I'm glad they kept him. He's one of my favorite Giants of all time and under Coughlin he was electric more than ever. I always thought people overreacted to his comments. I didn't care all that much.


Tiki went through a tough stretch starting in 98 which lasted a good while. I do not remember many big plays from him that year (the one that comes to mind is the td pass against the undefeated broncos right before the half). Tiki started out the year as the starter before losing his job to Gary Brown.

Tiki got his game back and was a special player for many years.
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jnoble : 10/4/2022 5:33 pm : link
In comment 15845985 ChrisRick said:
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I wanted him off the team after 99 and apparently that was the plan. I'm glad they kept him. He's one of my favorite Giants of all time and under Coughlin he was electric more than ever. I always thought people overreacted to his comments. I didn't care all that much.



Tiki went through a tough stretch starting in 98 which lasted a good while. I do not remember many big plays from him that year (the one that comes to mind is the td pass against the undefeated broncos right before the half). Tiki started out the year as the starter before losing his job to Gary Brown.

Tiki got his game back and was a special player for many years.


Fassel admitted he told Tiki that he "sucked" in his sophomore year on the team lol
The 98-99 Giants are two of my least favorite teams... the defense was solid but the offense couldn't find an identity or any consistency until Kerry Collins completely arrived in 2000.
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/4/2022 6:52 pm : link
Didn't Gary Brown die recently? Or am I confusing him with someone else?
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Ivan15 : 10/4/2022 8:02 pm : link
In comment 15846357 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Didn't Gary Brown die recently? Or am I confusing him with someone else?

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Yes, Gary Brown passed away a few months ago. Good to very good RB for a short time with the Giants, successor to Rodney Hampton until he got in a motorcycle accident, as I recall. Successful assistant coach who died at 52.
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Tiki was drafted 2nd round as a change of pace scatback who made  
Ivan15 : 10/4/2022 8:13 pm : link
Himself into an every down starting RB. One of my favorite Giants players until he retired and put his foot in his mouth by his comments on Coughlin and Eli.
At the time, I thought his comments on both were misinterpreted but he has had plenty of opportunities to correct and hasn’t done it.

For the 5 year period prior to his retirement, he was as good as anyone in the league and very durable. Many games, he put the team on his back and carried them to a win. He probably knew he needed one more good year to get to the HOF and you have to respect him for knowing that he probably didn’t have it in him.

If Barkley can put up a season like Tiki’s best, I for one would be real happy. Barkley has one of those already.
RE: RE: If I remember correctly Fassal wanted Tiki in the first round, but  
Grey Pilgrim : 10/5/2022 1:35 pm : link
In comment 15845927 Mad Mike said:
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Was overruled and the GIANTS took Ike Hillard.



That's not how it was reported. Young wanted Tiki, but Fassel and Accorsi pushed for Hilliard, arguing, correctly it turned out, that Tiki would likely be there a round later. lonk - ( New Window )


Oh...my mistake.

Thanks for the correction.
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