NFT: Nats @ Mets - Doubleheader - Games 1 & 2

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Nats @ Mets - 4:10 pm start from Flushing - TV: Nationals' telecast

Braves and Marlins will start in Miami in about two and a half hours at around 6:40 pm EST.

But we don't deserve the division. We deserve to go the long way round. Bitches need to take their medicine. So gimme' a Braves win, if we're gonna' mess around and win both games of the doubleheader. Only half joking...

and even if they don't, sweeping doubleheaders is tough, but let's assume for some reason this drags into the final day.

I don't think you can throw one of the big 3 ahead of the still very likely WC round. I think if they're going to win the division (a minor miracle at this point) they'll need to do it by leaving the pitching in tact for the very likely worse case scenario of opening the playoffs on Friday.

Bad Carrasco 1si inning? Why maintain any suspense about our wildcard status?

In comment 15846121 Spider43 said:

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But we don't deserve the division. We deserve to go the long way round. Bitches need to take their medicine. So gimme' a Braves win, if we're gonna' mess around and win both games of the doubleheader. Only half joking...

I agree. The Mets need to be put out of their misery and the Braves need to end this too for their benefit. Yesterday the Braves must have been off their game after the drama this past weekend.

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and even if they don't, sweeping doubleheaders is tough, but let's assume for some reason this drags into the final day. I don't think you can throw one of the big 3 ahead of the still very likely WC round. I think if they're going to win the division (a minor miracle at this point) they'll need to do it by leaving the pitching in tact for the very likely worse case scenario of opening the playoffs on Friday.

+1. Exactly.

(would basically require a rainout tonight and a doubleheader tomorrow), I’d treat it as Game 7 and go all in. Can’t burn one of your top guys if you still need help from ATL to win it though.

Peterson should start tomorrow, hopefully for 6 innings or so, no matter what happens in these three games today being played by the Mets and Braves. Here's the matchup in Miami in a little less than two hours form now:

lose today and Buck doesn't go all in tomorrow with the chance to hand the Braves the kind of historical disgraceful collapse that we can crow about for years, and get us a division championship and a bye I'm gonna punch him in the face.

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lose today and Buck doesn't go all in tomorrow with the chance to hand the Braves the kind of historical disgraceful collapse that we can crow about for years, and get us a division championship and a bye I'm gonna punch him in the face.

LOL. I feel the same way. It woud be historic.

And they stay alive until tomorrow, both their game and Atlanta’s start at the same time tomorrow afternoon.

You can’t risk Jake throwing 7 innings only to watch the Braves win and have him burned for Friday.

And go balls to the wall, personally

It was right down the middle.

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And they stay alive until tomorrow, both their game and Atlanta’s start at the same time tomorrow afternoon. You can’t risk Jake throwing 7 innings only to watch the Braves win and have him burned for Friday.

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You can’t risk Jake throwing 7 innings only to watch the Braves win and have him burned for Friday.

The Mets haven't won a World Series since I was in high school. I would rather not risk throwing away a miracle division win. You need to help create your own luck and not just settle for second place because we are too used to things not going our way.

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And they stay alive until tomorrow, both their game and Atlanta’s start at the same time tomorrow afternoon. You can’t risk Jake throwing 7 innings only to watch the Braves win and have him burned for Friday.

I agree. Allow me to add, you pitch Jake tomorrow and he doesn't pitch at all in the WC series. You're not going to pitch Jake on short rest in a series deciding game when he hasn't been sharp recently and given his injuries the last two seasons.

You should be able to win against the worst team in baseball with Peterson, Megill, bullpen game, whatever. And just let the chips fall where they may.

If you would really go into that Padres series without being able to pitch Jake, it's just not a good idea.

4-0 in the 4th now with that homer. The Mets need to get off the snide and shake off the bad vibes from the Atlanta sweep. Winning always helps. Coming back home and getting used to the weather up here is also important.

In comment 15846263 butler said:

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In comment 15846250 Chris684 said: Quote: And they stay alive until tomorrow, both their game and Atlanta’s start at the same time tomorrow afternoon. You can’t risk Jake throwing 7 innings only to watch the Braves win and have him burned for Friday. In comment 15846250 Chris684 said: Quote: You can’t risk Jake throwing 7 innings only to watch the Braves win and have him burned for Friday. The Mets haven't won a World Series since I was in high school. I would rather not risk throwing away a miracle division win. You need to help create your own luck and not just settle for second place because we are too used to things not going our way.

The risk is that the Braves win against a far inferior opponent making that start meaningless, and not having Jake at all for a do-or-die 3 game series against a really good San Diego ball club.

You should be able to beat the Nats with Peterson/Megill.

And there's always the chance you pitch Jake, don't get run support even if he pitches well, and lose anyway.

The Mets are in this spot because they shot themselves in Atlanta. Now they need to wear it, and you go win that ball game assuming it's not going to matter, because you need Jake in a short series.

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In comment 15846250 Chris684 said: Quote: And they stay alive until tomorrow, both their game and Atlanta’s start at the same time tomorrow afternoon. You can’t risk Jake throwing 7 innings only to watch the Braves win and have him burned for Friday. I agree. Allow me to add, you pitch Jake tomorrow and he doesn't pitch at all in the WC series. You're not going to pitch Jake on short rest in a series deciding game when he hasn't been sharp recently and given his injuries the last two seasons. You should be able to win against the worst team in baseball with Peterson, Megill, bullpen game, whatever. And just let the chips fall where they may. If you would really go into that Padres series without being able to pitch Jake, it's just not a good idea.

+1. Exactly, especially since the Nats look like they're gonna mail these games in.

2 games tonight

but I think they are resting him the rest of the year.

While starting DeGrom tomorrow would make him unavailable for the wild card series, if you can somehow make it through that, you'd be able to start Degrom in games 1 and 5 of the NLDS on full rest @LAD (if you make it there), and still get a Scherzer and Bassit start in that series.

his starts. We're gonna need one of either himself or Walker to start in the playoffs, particularly in the NLDS--if the Mets are the WC and get that far of course--since deGrom and Scherzer would have already pitched in the WC round.

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his starts. We're gonna need one of either himself or Walker to start in the playoffs, particularly in the NLDS--if the Mets are the WC and get that far of course--since deGrom and Scherzer would have already pitched in the WC round.

I was just thinking the same thing about Carrasco. He and Walker both seem pretty unreliable in the 2nd half of this season.

Ir would be a microcosm of the whole year. I really wonder about Bucky, and why he has been so ineffectual in influencing this slide.

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his starts. We're gonna need one of either himself or Walker to start in the playoffs, particularly in the NLDS--if the Mets are the WC and get that far of course--since deGrom and Scherzer would have already pitched in the WC round.

It's hard to have any confidence in him facing LAD or ATL in the playoffs. Wonder if we'd be better off rolling the dice with Walker or Peterson. Unfortunately, not sure if Peterson is stretched out.

I could see the Mets just going with a full bullpen game and trying to match Walker/Carrasco/Peterson/Megill to try and keep the damage from getting out of hand.

start in the playoffs, if it comes to it. IF the Mets are the QC and get through that round, they might have to start someone who isn't in their Top 3 in Game 1 in LA a week form now, especially if the WC round goes three games, and all three of their Big three pitch in that series. My guess right now is that Walker would be the one, but not far behind him would be Peterson. Cookie is officially sus at this point.

Let up 4 runs and did not make it out of the third inning

Really poor performance in a big spot. Jake and Max were disappointing but still turned in quality starts. Bassitt was a dog

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Let up 4 runs and did not make it out of the third inning Really poor performance in a big spot. Jake and Max were disappointing but still turned in quality starts. Bassitt was a dog

He really was. No two ways about it. Peterson needs to be in the Mets' starting rotation next season no matter what at this point.

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In comment 15846331 Vanzetti said: Quote: Let up 4 runs and did not make it out of the third inning Really poor performance in a big spot. Jake and Max were disappointing but still turned in quality starts. Bassitt was a dog He really was. No two ways about it. Peterson needs to be in the Mets' starting rotation next season no matter what at this point.

I'm starting to think that all four of the unsigned guys--Jake, Bassitt, Carrasco and Walker--are not locks to be back.

Hope they hold onto Jake, despite the injury risk. It could come down to how he performs in postseason.

Marlins have won 9 of the last 14.

Braves at Marlins - 6:40 pm EST start from Miami - Marlins' TV feed

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8.2 IP
2 hits
11 Ks
0 BBs

and play STL in the NLCS, who would get home field advantage?

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and play STL in the NLCS, who would get home field advantage?

Mets would be 4 seed and play Padres (5 seed)

Darvish
Snell
Musgrove

It's a tough match up, especially with Met-killer Juan Soto in the lineup. Thank God Tatis is suspended.

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and play STL in the NLCS, who would get home field advantage?

I don’t know for sure but I’m assuming the division winner and higher seed, so STL

leading MLB in batting average.

Alonso leading in RBI

Good to get off the schneid. 1 down another to go today, no matter what the Braves do to day. It's good to win again.

Let's keep an eye out for this.

over the Pads.

Darvish and Soto are Met killers

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over the Pads. Darvish and Soto are Met killers

Darvish scares the shit outta me.

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over the Pads. Darvish and Soto are Met killers

Ok but the way my brain works...if we lose to Padres it sucks...if we lose to Phillies it absolutely ruins me for years and years

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Darvish Snell Musgrove It's a tough match up, especially with Met-killer Juan Soto in the lineup. Thank God Tatis is suspended.

That series scares the shit outta me man. I don't have any kind of overwhelming confidence facing them.

October 4, 2022 - DH Game 2 - Starting Lineups & Pitchers

Top 5th

TV links to follow in a bit...


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they start hitting!

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In comment 15846434 Chris684 said: Quote: over the Pads. Darvish and Soto are Met killers Ok but the way my brain works...if we lose to Padres it sucks...if we lose to Phillies it absolutely ruins me for years and years

Very true. Our regular season ownership of the Phillies worries me too. A lot of times the worm turns in the playoffs

That these games probably meaningless

5-0 and knock the starter out in first inning

Since I was only 4 in 1988

Amazing how not good it feels today...lol

But again, big picture, awesome season so far

I'm still looking for an SNY feed for the Mets


Nats at Mets - Game 2 of Double Header - Nats' TV Feed

Should have shown up for the Braves series, or the Cubs series, or the Nats series before that. Shame, really.

feel shitty. Again, should surprise absolutely nobody.

Gives the Mets to heat up the bats a little before the weekend....

Brave 2, Marlins 1

We should have a result in about an hour if things don't go to extra innings.

"a chance"

is Nimmo is running up his price tag. What a doubleheader he is having

have some faith, Braves are the best team in MLB and we had a head on collision with them when they are at their healthiest and best and we are not.

We will see them again.

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is Nimmo is running up his price tag. What a doubleheader he is having

Haha was about to post that he's doing some nice Boras binder stat padding today

He deserves it. Him and McNeil only ones who showed up in Atlanta

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Gives the Mets to heat up the bats a little before the weekend....

Yessir

See link below...


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They need one of either himself or Carrasco to show something here for when they're needed---if they're needed. I'm done with Carrasco right now.

and if the Braves win tonight, hope the two days off help energize a clearly tired Lindor

The other hope is that the injuries to Jake and Max have their arms fresh for a playoff run, and that they are really pissed about their previous starts and ultra focused this weekend

Meanwhile 2-1 Braves going B7 in Miami

And the Phillies are down 6-0 in Houston 2nd inning, so if the Padres win tonight and the Phils lose - its the Padres this weekend unless the Marlins can stun the world

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Since I was only 4 in 1988 Amazing how not good it feels today...lol But again, big picture, awesome season so far

Mets should have been in the World Series that year against the A's.

In comment 15846550 Optimus-NY said:

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They need one of either himself or Carrasco to show something here for when they're needed---if they're needed. I'm done with Carrasco right now.

It’s against the Nats. I’m not getting too excited over them pitching “okay” against one of the worst teams in the league.

Only to lose Game 7 in NCLS and have them go on to dominate Detroit 4-1 and win world series.

That Cardinals team almost did not make playoffs after losing 7 straight in last two weeks.

Playoffs are a new season. Everybody is 0-0. And I don't think keeping fresh with the WC series is necessarily a bad thing. Padres are a tough matchup but it can be good to have tough matchups, just like Football Giants did in 2007 playoff run.

In comment 15846584 Vanzetti said:

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Only to lose Game 7 in NCLS and have them go on to dominate Detroit 4-1 and win world series. That Cardinals team almost did not make playoffs after losing 7 straight in last two weeks. Playoffs are a new season. Everybody is 0-0. And I don't think keeping fresh with the WC series is necessarily a bad thing. Padres are a tough matchup but it can be good to have tough matchups, just like Football Giants did in 2007 playoff run.

Winning the WC instead of winning the division is most definitely a bad thing.

But I love your optimism!!!

but you cant compare previous playoffs to this one because of the new setup

Yes anything can happen, but to get through SD, LA, and ATL and then have something left in the tank to win the World Series is a very tall order

Top 8th.

2 out nick fortes up.

With Nick Fortes up, Bottom 8

And Minter got him to pop up

Braves 3 outs away.

Mets can start resting guys soon

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but you cant compare previous playoffs to this one because of the new setup Yes anything can happen, but to get through SD, LA, and ATL and then have something left in the tank to win the World Series is a very tall order

I don't view the WC as adding some type of endurance challenge to this thing...it's baseball, they play basically everyday

To me it's just opening up another chance to lose a series, since baseball is closest to 50/50 proposition of any major sport as it is

because every single baseball broadcaster and writer has said repeatedly that it would be a huge advantage to win the division

They kept saying it because it's true

Kinda like how you kept saying "its ok, just do this and this" as the Mets kept losing to bad teams. That didnt work, either

That doesnt mean the Mets cant win it all, but there is zero doubt that it is going to be much, much harder now

In comment 15846625 Snablats said:

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because every single baseball broadcaster and writer has said repeatedly that it would be a huge advantage to win the division They kept saying it because it's true Kinda like how you kept saying "its ok, just do this and this" as the Mets kept losing to bad teams. That didnt work, either That doesnt mean the Mets cant win it all, but there is zero doubt that it is going to be much, much harder now

I did not say it wasn't an advantage...it is harder.

I'm talking about WHY it is.

I don't think it's a matter of endurance or having something "left in the tank"..it's just a longer road and more things can go wrong on a longer road

In comment 15846616 moze1021 said:

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In comment 15846594 Snablats said: Quote: but you cant compare previous playoffs to this one because of the new setup Yes anything can happen, but to get through SD, LA, and ATL and then have something left in the tank to win the World Series is a very tall order I don't view the WC as adding some type of endurance challenge to this thing...it's baseball, they play basically everyday To me it's just opening up another chance to lose a series, since baseball is closest to 50/50 proposition of any major sport as it is

A very simplistic, yet ignorant view. I get that you are the eternal optimist…but, lol, just stop.

Miami miracle. Come on sweet baby, Jesus!

Jansen coming in..

and on your position players to have to play more playoff games

Just ask the Rangers, who ran out of gas playing a very rested Tampa Bay team in the Stanley Cup semifinals

In comment 15846632 CooperDash said:

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In comment 15846616 moze1021 said: Quote: In comment 15846594 Snablats said: Quote: but you cant compare previous playoffs to this one because of the new setup Yes anything can happen, but to get through SD, LA, and ATL and then have something left in the tank to win the World Series is a very tall order I don't view the WC as adding some type of endurance challenge to this thing...it's baseball, they play basically everyday To me it's just opening up another chance to lose a series, since baseball is closest to 50/50 proposition of any major sport as it is A very simplistic, yet ignorant view. I get that you are the eternal optimist…but, lol, just stop.

Bro I think you only read half my damn post, just like snablats...

It's a harder road!! But endurance isn't why

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and on your position players to have to play more playoff games Just ask the Rangers, who ran out of gas playing a very rested Tampa Bay team in the Stanley Cup semifinals

Hockey is completely different!! That's my damn point.

But outside of Soto and Machado, the Padres lineup isnt that great.

We can beat them.

Won

Mets can shut it down

So yeah, outside of Darvish and Snell and Soto and Macbado WHO KILL US…we should be just fine in a three game series.

So….two pitchers kill us but “we can beat them” in a three game series. You guys are really special.

Our delusional division dream is over... time to prep for Friday.

While the Mets continue to play second fiddle.

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While the Mets continue to play second fiddle.

Too bad…we only lead the division every day until game #158. Such a typical Mets fucking season.

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So yeah, outside of Darvish and Snell and Soto and Macbado WHO KILL US…we should be just fine in a three game series. So….two pitchers kill us but “we can beat them” in a three game series. You guys are really special.

Dude. You are one of the most annoying posters that has ever come through BBI. Your toxicity game after game has ruined these threads here. Im surprised you arent celebrating right now for how much you pom pom'd the Braves all year.

rest alonso, lindor, mcneil, nimmo at least. let alvarez catch.

get 5 innings to get a final W.

And a 3 game wild card matchup against probably the worst possible matchup there could be to show for it.

Well the Mets certainly never make it easy for themselves or their fans I'll say that.

play out the string. And the young guys

a 100+ win season. Quite the achievement. Time to get ready for the playoffs.

In comment 15846669 ZGiants98 said:

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In comment 15846659 CooperDash said: Quote: So yeah, outside of Darvish and Snell and Soto and Macbado WHO KILL US…we should be just fine in a three game series. So….two pitchers kill us but “we can beat them” in a three game series. You guys are really special. Dude. You are one of the most annoying posters that has ever come through BBI. Your toxicity game after game has ruined these threads here. Im surprised you arent celebrating right now for how much you pom pom'd the Braves all year.

That’s rich. You’ve been a joke on this site for years. A literal fucking punching bag because of the continual ignorant shit you spew. You are one of the biggest pieces of shit on this site. But go on. I’ll be there waiting for the next time you contradict your own bullshit. Moron.

In comment 15846659 CooperDash said:

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So yeah, outside of Darvish and Snell and Soto and Macbado WHO KILL US…we should be just fine in a three game series. So….two pitchers kill us but “we can beat them” in a three game series. You guys are really special.

Dude serious question. Are you a fucking troll? At worst you are, at best you are just miserable and annoying.

And it'll be moreso when those 100 wins equate to nothing in the playoffs.

In comment 15846668 CooperDash said:

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In comment 15846661 spike said: Quote: While the Mets continue to play second fiddle. Too bad…we only lead the division every day until game #158. Such a typical Mets fucking season.

honestly the way they played down the stretch im glad they didn't back into it. obviously think it was a huge choke job in atlanta and a big missed opportunity, but let's say they won 2 more games vs CHI/WSH earlier in sept, would that be better knowing they still couldn't win 1 game in ATL?

atlanta deserved the division and i hope the mets are force fed obnoxious videos of them celebrating in their clubhouse. then like buck said i hope they go out and take it out on their WC opponent.

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get 5 innings to get a final W.

Exactly. Weird move in that sense.

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In comment 15846681 Chris684 said:

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In comment 15846659 CooperDash said: Quote: So yeah, outside of Darvish and Snell and Soto and Macbado WHO KILL US…we should be just fine in a three game series. So….two pitchers kill us but “we can beat them” in a three game series. You guys are really special. Dude serious question. Are you a fucking troll? At worst you are, at best you are just miserable and annoying.

Not a troll. I’ve cheered on this team way more than you have all season. But go ahead and pile on.

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i think optimus (?) said the WC series is all at Citi.

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In comment 15846669 ZGiants98 said: Quote: In comment 15846659 CooperDash said: Quote: So yeah, outside of Darvish and Snell and Soto and Macbado WHO KILL US…we should be just fine in a three game series. So….two pitchers kill us but “we can beat them” in a three game series. You guys are really special. Dude. You are one of the most annoying posters that has ever come through BBI. Your toxicity game after game has ruined these threads here. Im surprised you arent celebrating right now for how much you pom pom'd the Braves all year. That’s rich. You’ve been a joke on this site for years. A literal fucking punching bag because of the continual ignorant shit you spew. You are one of the biggest pieces of shit on this site. But go on. I’ll be there waiting for the next time you contradict your own bullshit. Moron.

You're the type of dipshit who probably predicted the Mets would win 77 games this year and then goes ape shit because they "only" won 101, and not 110. Go fuck yourself asshole. And speaking of "years" here, nobody even knows where you came from. You weren't here before this year. Go back to whatever hole you crawled out of. Scumbag.

In comment 15846681 Chris684 said:

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In comment 15846659 CooperDash said: Quote: So yeah, outside of Darvish and Snell and Soto and Macbado WHO KILL US…we should be just fine in a three game series. So….two pitchers kill us but “we can beat them” in a three game series. You guys are really special. Dude serious question. Are you a fucking troll? At worst you are, at best you are just miserable and annoying.

So true. I thought Snablats was bad for a while. but this jackass clearly takes the crown.

I have watched a lot of bad baseball over the past 30 years.

Heading into a season i'd sign up for 100 wins in any way shape or form, no questions asked

It absolutely, absolutely sucks that we didn't win the division. I feel sick to my stomach about it.. but drop the shit with the same ol Mets shit. I've seen the "ol Mets", and this ain't it.

For the first time as a fan I am 100% confident that regardless of what happens this postseason, we have an owner who is going to go and try to make the team better next year
...and we're gonna have a lot of fun again.

Still a lot of baseball left. If the 88 win Cardinals can beat the now 2nd best Mets team I ever saw, well shit fellas, anything can happen..no matter what the playoff bracket looks like

In comment 15846694 ZGiants98 said:

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In comment 15846680 CooperDash said: Quote: In comment 15846669 ZGiants98 said: Quote: In comment 15846659 CooperDash said: Quote: So yeah, outside of Darvish and Snell and Soto and Macbado WHO KILL US…we should be just fine in a three game series. So….two pitchers kill us but “we can beat them” in a three game series. You guys are really special. Dude. You are one of the most annoying posters that has ever come through BBI. Your toxicity game after game has ruined these threads here. Im surprised you arent celebrating right now for how much you pom pom'd the Braves all year. That’s rich. You’ve been a joke on this site for years. A literal fucking punching bag because of the continual ignorant shit you spew. You are one of the biggest pieces of shit on this site. But go on. I’ll be there waiting for the next time you contradict your own bullshit. Moron. You're the type of dipshit who probably predicted the Mets would win 77 games this year and then goes ape shit because they "only" won 101, and not 110. Go fuck yourself asshole. And speaking of "years" here, nobody even knows where you came from. You weren't here before this year. Go back to whatever hole you crawled out of. Scumbag.

There’s the Zgiants we all know and love. The eternal hypocrite and moronic optimist. Thanks for telling me you “I probably” am. Fuck yourself? You’re probably be better at that the constantly contradicting yourself. You suck at life and are a drain on this site - as witnessed by all. So…cool?

The Mets have had like 6 real playoff appearances in most of our lives? Losing the division sucked and is real bad for our chances, but it's not like we've been rocking up to the postseason every year. There is still fun to be had.

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I have watched a lot of bad baseball over the past 30 years. Heading into a season i'd sign up for 100 wins in any way shape or form, no questions asked It absolutely, absolutely sucks that we didn't win the division. I feel sick to my stomach about it.. but drop the shit with the same ol Mets shit. I've seen the "ol Mets", and this ain't it. For the first time as a fan I am 100% confident that regardless of what happens this postseason, we have an owner who is going to go and try to make the team better next year ...and we're gonna have a lot of fun again. Still a lot of baseball left. If the 88 win Cardinals can beat the now 2nd best Mets team I ever saw, well shit fellas, anything can happen..no matter what the playoff bracket looks like

Really well said. I’m on board. Now it’s time to put the regular season behind us and embrace playoff baseball at Citifield this weekend. I’m pumped.

Mets all weekend and Giants rare 9:30am start. Hopefully Sunday is not needed for the Mets but if it is I’ll welcome the drama of a decisive game 3.

Let’s fucking go Mets!

In comment 15846698 moze1021 said:

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I have watched a lot of bad baseball over the past 30 years. Heading into a season i'd sign up for 100 wins in any way shape or form, no questions asked It absolutely, absolutely sucks that we didn't win the division. I feel sick to my stomach about it.. but drop the shit with the same ol Mets shit. I've seen the "ol Mets", and this ain't it. For the first time as a fan I am 100% confident that regardless of what happens this postseason, we have an owner who is going to go and try to make the team better next year ...and we're gonna have a lot of fun again. Still a lot of baseball left. If the 88 win Cardinals can beat the now 2nd best Mets team I ever saw, well shit fellas, anything can happen..no matter what the playoff bracket looks like

The Braves had an incredible season. So did we. We likely falll a game short. We're supposed to be miserable because our team won 100+ games and has playoff games this weekend for the first time in 6 years?? The nerve of us for being proud of this team!

I agree homre!!

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play out the string. And the young guys

McCann is not a ML player. He is a guy who would hit .230 in AAA.

He should not be on the postseason roster except Mets did nothing to replace this black hole either during the season or at the trade deadline.

He is awful. An automatic out. With runners on, I'm relieved when he strikes out because it means he won't hit into a DP. And he is not even that good defensively. Terrible at blocking balls in the dirt--a real problem with so many pitchers on the roster who throw sliders, sinkers and splitters.

He is utter garbage.

The way the Wildcard round is that it's a best two of three with all games being played at the ballpark of the higher seed (i.e., Padres will play all necessary games at Citi Field as of now and Phillies will play all necessary games in St. Louis at the moment in the National League).

The Divisional Series games are a best of 5 in a 2-2-1 format (team with the best record has homefield advantage). The brackets remain as they are, but the team with the best record has homefield.

The League Championship Series is a best of 7 in a 2-3-2 format as is the World Series. The team with the best record has homefield. See below:

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"Which pennant winner gets home-field advantage in the World Series? Home-field for the World Series round goes to the team with the best regular-season record, regardless of postseason seeding within that team’s league. If the two teams had identical regular season records, the tiebreaker format linked above (head-to-head record, then intradivision record, then interdivision record) applies."

New MLB postseason format, explained - mlb.com - Anthony Castrovince (@castrovince) - August 10th, 2022 - ( New Window )

Except for the usual reasons

As has been said at least 100 times since Sunday, the WC series is at Citi Field

Chris, you were the one constantly saying not to worry about losing the division while the Mets were choking it away all of September, that the Mets will win it. Good call

Moze, there is a difference between optimistic and denying reality. You are doing the latter

And there is no difference between what happened to the Rangers and a baseball pitching staff. The extra innings under duress that the Mets staff will have to pitch, and playing LA instead of the STL/PHI winner if they beat SD, is a monumental difference and will wear out the staff

Every single baseball writer and broadcaster stated how important winning the division was

To say anything else is denying reality

6 Regulars (Nimmo, mcNeil, lindor, alonso, canha, escobar)
2 catchers (Nido/McCann)
2 DHs (vogey/righty)
2 marte fill in options Guillorme/Naquin

4 SP (maybe 3 for the first series?)

17 Diaz
18 Otto
19 Lugo
20 Peterson
21 Joely
22 Smith
23 May
24 Trevor?

25 gore
26 the other of vientos/alvarez

imo carrasco is clearly odd sp out.

Good to see Alvarez behind the plate either way.

In comment 15846719 Eric on Li said:

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6 Regulars (Nimmo, mcNeil, lindor, alonso, canha, escobar) 2 catchers (Nido/McCann) 2 DHs (vogey/righty) 2 marte fill in options Guillorme/Naquin 4 SP (maybe 3 for the first series?) 17 Diaz 18 Otto 19 Lugo 20 Peterson 21 Joely 22 Smith 23 May 24 Trevor? 25 gore 26 the other of vientos/alvarez imo carrasco is clearly odd sp out.

You could be right but I'd be pretty shocked if they dont reward Carrasco with a spot after the season he's had. Also, Givens is essentially healthy and ready to go. I wonder if he gets added?

In comment 15846720 Optimus-NY said:

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Good to see Alvarez behind the plate either way.

better late than never. really still cant understand how they didnt foresee that it might be a good idea to get theses guys some reps earlier.

….over the summer, was it 14 games? If their fanbase wasn’t so arrogant, I’d congratulate them. This doesn’t feel like an 07 or 08 collapse. However, it is something to note - getting swept by the Cubs, losing key games during our “soft” schedule, The humbling beating by the Braves. Unable to sustain any momentum.

The good news is that in 07 and 08, we were done. There is an opportunity for our Mets to continue playing and instead of packing it up for the offseason, we have a WIldcard round to play.

I’m not going to lie, this still hurts but it’s not over yet. Perhaps we are on the precipice of a signature moment for the Mets.

Perhaps wishful thinking-but we have playoff baseball this weekend which I was not so sure would be in April.

In comment 15846718 Snablats said:

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Except for the usual reasons As has been said at least 100 times since Sunday, the WC series is at Citi Field Chris, you were the one constantly saying not to worry about losing the division while the Mets were choking it away all of September, that the Mets will win it. Good call Moze, there is a difference between optimistic and denying reality. You are doing the latter And there is no difference between what happened to the Rangers and a baseball pitching staff. The extra innings under duress that the Mets staff will have to pitch, and playing LA instead of the STL/PHI winner if they beat SD, is a monumental difference and will wear out the staff Every single baseball writer and broadcaster stated how important winning the division was To say anything else is denying reality

Did I really say the Mets were guaranteed winning the division? You’ll have to find where I said that.

And look at you taking victory laps right now. You must be pumped the Mets didn’t close out the division

In comment 15846727 Eric on Li said:

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In comment 15846720 Optimus-NY said: Quote: Good to see Alvarez behind the plate either way. better late than never. really still cant understand how they didnt foresee that it might be a good idea to get theses guys some reps earlier.

In fairness, the Mets played to win as they normally would right until the division was decided. Buck went out and got Taijuan right away---even though it would have been nice to allow him to finish the 5th inning so he could get credit for the win. Now it's time to do this stuff. Beforehand would have been wrong. For what it's worth, I don't think they would have pitched deGrom tomorrow if the situation presented itself. my guess is that the start goes to one of Williams, Megill, or Peterson in what will be a bullpen game.

There it is!

wow

the ball flies off his bat

What a shot! First of many!

P.S. Rain is coming down harder now in the 6th inning in a blowout. They may as well call it since it's an official game at this point. What's the point of continuing on for another hour in that mess?

In comment 15846727 Eric on Li said:

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In comment 15846720 Optimus-NY said: Quote: Good to see Alvarez behind the plate either way. better late than never. really still cant understand how they didnt foresee that it might be a good idea to get theses guys some reps earlier.

I know you will never agree, but the fact is a hallmark of Alderson's Mets tenure has been indecision and slow reactions, constantly leaving the team short on the bench because he never makes a decision in a timely manner. Even other GMs complained about trying to trade with him because he wouldnt ever make a decision

In comment 15846729 Chris684 said:

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In comment 15846718 Snablats said: Quote: Except for the usual reasons As has been said at least 100 times since Sunday, the WC series is at Citi Field Chris, you were the one constantly saying not to worry about losing the division while the Mets were choking it away all of September, that the Mets will win it. Good call Moze, there is a difference between optimistic and denying reality. You are doing the latter And there is no difference between what happened to the Rangers and a baseball pitching staff. The extra innings under duress that the Mets staff will have to pitch, and playing LA instead of the STL/PHI winner if they beat SD, is a monumental difference and will wear out the staff Every single baseball writer and broadcaster stated how important winning the division was To say anything else is denying reality Did I really say the Mets were guaranteed winning the division? You’ll have to find where I said that. And look at you taking victory laps right now. You must be pumped the Mets didn’t close out the division

No one is taking a victory lap. We are calling out people who deny reality like you. You kept telling us to relax, everything will be fine. And then the Mets choked away the division

You are like DiComo, he said all summer to not worry, the Mets lead by X games. Then when they blow it, he says nothing

Congrats on a great season, and cheers to the playoffs

And is it Jay on a the Island??? who was the Braves fan? To the only good Braves fan - congrats to your douchebag if a team in another incredible season.

Z, any chance you have your annual preseason win prediction thread?? Be a good time for us to all have a good laugh at how off all of us were.

I guess as you get older, time seems to pass more quickly.

But I also think it's because for the last two months, we have all known it was going to me down to the Braves series. And to be swept. Very anti-climatic.

I feel wistful. 100 wins but somehow it feels like a bit of a letdown. I think we will all get charged up again after Mets beat Padres.

In comment 15846742 Snablats said:

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In comment 15846727 Eric on Li said: Quote: In comment 15846720 Optimus-NY said: Quote: Good to see Alvarez behind the plate either way. better late than never. really still cant understand how they didnt foresee that it might be a good idea to get theses guys some reps earlier. I know you will never agree, but the fact is a hallmark of Alderson's Mets tenure has been indecision and slow reactions, constantly leaving the team short on the bench because he never makes a decision in a timely manner. Even other GMs complained about trying to trade with him because he wouldnt ever make a decision

they were short everything in his tenure because they had no money. during his tenure they were pretty predictable and aggressive with prospect promotions - which is specifically what i was talking about. conforto's original promotion straight from AA was the closest comparable to the team's situation this year and they not only did that but let him stay up and earn more PT even after they traded for depth. They moved Cespedes to CF to keep him in the lineup.

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I guess as you get older, time seems to pass more quickly. But I also think it's because for the last two months, we have all known it was going to me down to the Braves series. And to be swept. Very anti-climatic. I feel wistful. 100 wins but somehow it feels like a bit of a letdown. I think we will all get charged up again after Mets beat Padres.

The nerve of you!! Don’t take this moment away from others you selfish SOB, lol.

In comment 15846760 Vanzetti said:

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I guess as you get older, time seems to pass more quickly. But I also think it's because for the last two months, we have all known it was going to me down to the Braves series. And to be swept. Very anti-climatic. I feel wistful. 100 wins but somehow it feels like a bit of a letdown. I think we will all get charged up again after Mets beat Padres.

agree on all the above. in some ways that braves series felt like the fake exercise of watching your own "funeral". it was a playoff level series and they got their teeth kicked in, with painful consequences. the division championship got taken away from them and they were defenseless to stop it.

but they are down they aren't out and hopefully it gets them pissed off and fired up. and who knows if they see ATL again maybe they will come in over confident like they did in that series in early August.

the most important thing is the mets show up in the postseason as the team that played the first 4.5 months, not the team that showed up the last 6 weeks. maybe getting embarrassed helps motivate that even though they shouldn't have needed it.

And honestly I'd much rather they play the Dodgers in a 5 game series than a 7 game series. As long as the pitching preforms as expected and not as it did in Atlanta, that's a significant weapon for the Mets in a 5 game series.

I think they could beat the Dodgers in either a 5 or 7 but certainly winning a 5 games series would seem more likely.

In comment 15846769 moespree said:

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And honestly I'd much rather they play the Dodgers in a 5 game series than a 7 game series. As long as the pitching preforms as expected and not as it did in Atlanta, that's a significant weapon for the Mets in a 5 game series. I think they could beat the Dodgers in either a 5 or 7 but certainly winning a 5 games series would seem more likely.

there is no scenario where it's better to have to face both the LAD and ATL, and that's what they were playing to avoid. The wild card round on top obviously too.

however i do think the LAD are less of a threat than ATL - so if ATL can somehow get themselves eliminated before the NLCS, the degree of difficulty isn't the worst case.

a Braves/Mets NLCS would be epic but that would be a pretty herculean path just to get to the WS.

That I'd rather a 5 game series than a 7 one against LA.

But to your point, yes it will be a gauntlet to win the WS. They will have certainly earned it if they do.

vientos lineout was 94 mph. mccann ground out last inning was 107.

great to see Alvarez heat up. he and vientos should get the starts tomorrow and hopefully they can both get some confidence because they are going to be needed against Snell and as pinch hitters possibly in a big spot against Hader.

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Congrats on a great season, and cheers to the playoffs And is it Jay on a the Island??? who was the Braves fan? To the only good Braves fan - congrats to your douchebag if a team in another incredible season. Z, any chance you have your annual preseason win prediction thread?? Be a good time for us to all have a good laugh at how off all of us were.

Ha. I did that for years Shecky but not this year. Ill try to pick it back up next year!

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Congrats on a great season, and cheers to the playoffs And is it Jay on a the Island??? who was the Braves fan? To the only good Braves fan - congrats to your douchebag if a team in another incredible season.

Thanks Shecky and I will congratulate you guys on a hell of a season. 100 wins is no easy task and I know many of you guys are down after the sweep but as the Braves proved last year anything can happen in the playoffs. This was the most exciting season that I can remember in nearly two decades.

Unreal. Let's Go Mets.

if I were buck I'd consider starting Alvarez at DH game 1 and see if they can catch lightning in a bottle.

Keep Vogelbach on the bench for an important situation against a RHRP.

Assuming no Marte, start McNeil in the OF and Guillorme at 2b.

Nimmo
Lindor
McNeil
Alonso
Escobar
Canha
Alvarez
Guillorme
Nidon't or McCan't

Vogelbach, Naquin, Vientos on bench to hit for catchers if the situation calls for it.

Get the 2 days off with the rest of the regulars

100 wins :-) Let's make it 101 tomorrow :-)

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100 wins :-) Let's make it 101 tomorrow :-)

let's pray for a 4/4 with 4 homers for alvarez. if he can do some damage it could be a real gamechanger and right now he's a total unknown. the 2 balls he mashed today were both of RHP too.

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Unreal. Let's Go Mets.

About a dozen times in all of mlb history

Worked out well for the dodgers last year

best record in franchise history. All alone.

Would be pretty sweet.

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best record in franchise history. All alone. Would be pretty sweet.

Indeed

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In comment 15846782 Optimus-NY said: Quote: 100 wins :-) Let's make it 101 tomorrow :-) let's pray for a 4/4 with 4 homers for alvarez. if he can do some damage it could be a real gamechanger and right now he's a total unknown. the 2 balls he mashed today were both of RHP too.

+1

In comment 15846777 Jay on the Island said:

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In comment 15846756 Shecky said: Quote: Congrats on a great season, and cheers to the playoffs And is it Jay on a the Island??? who was the Braves fan? To the only good Braves fan - congrats to your douchebag if a team in another incredible season. Thanks Shecky and I will congratulate you guys on a hell of a season. 100 wins is no easy task and I know many of you guys are down after the sweep but as the Braves proved last year anything can happen in the playoffs. This was the most exciting season that I can remember in nearly two decades.

Thanks Jay. Very classy.

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In comment 15846778 butler said: Quote: Unreal. Let's Go Mets. About a dozen times in all of mlb history Worked out well for the dodgers last year

I know that other teams have lost the division with 100 wins. But the Giants, for example, didn't clinch DURING the Dodgers 100th victory.

We should have a result in the next 45 minutes to an hour, assuming the game doesn't go to extra innings.

SFG at SD Padres - TV: Padres feed


Gameday Box Score - SFG at SD - mlb.com - 10/4/22 - ( New Window )

Mets are the #4 seed as the first Wild Card in the NL against either the Pads or Phils. If the Pads win tonight, then it'll be the Pads.

If the Mets get another crack at the Braves in the NLCS and beat them, this season instantly becomes one of the GOATS.

On to the Padres.

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if he plays tomorrow, he should DH. i want the guy to win the batting title but they cannot afford an injury and it's 1 game. if they were winning the division and coming up on 5 days off it's one thing but they have 1 day off and then wild card. give him the day off or at worst dh him and dont let him play the field.

In comment 15846802 Eric on Li said:

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In comment 15846800 Optimus-NY said: Quote: if he plays tomorrow, he should DH. i want the guy to win the batting title but they cannot afford an injury and it's 1 game. if they were winning the division and coming up on 5 days off it's one thing but they have 1 day off and then wild card. give him the day off or at worst dh him and dont let him play the field.

Sound logic. I'm down with that. Put Luis in at 2nd.

In comment 15846804 Optimus-NY said:

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In comment 15846802 Eric on Li said: Quote: In comment 15846800 Optimus-NY said: Quote: if he plays tomorrow, he should DH. i want the guy to win the batting title but they cannot afford an injury and it's 1 game. if they were winning the division and coming up on 5 days off it's one thing but they have 1 day off and then wild card. give him the day off or at worst dh him and dont let him play the field. Sound logic. I'm down with that. Put Luis in at 2nd.

man tomorrow's lineup. it's crazy but i think id go:

LF Canha
SS Guillorme
2b Escobar (has played there before, who knows may need to go there in an emergency in postseason?)
DH Vogey
C Alvarez
RF Naquin
3b Vientos
1b McCann
CF Gore

not sure who else they have with the team that's not on the active roster but if they can they could use some more bodies.

What if McNeil wants to play though?

Two days off is optimum. Muscle mass begins to decrease ever so slightly on the third day, leading to tightness and lethargy.

Peterson? Megill? Williams? Who can the Mets throw to keep everyone on the pitching staff as fresh as possible going into Friday?

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Two days off is optimum. Muscle mass begins to decrease ever so slightly on the third day, leading to tightness and lethargy.

Maybe start them, especially since Lindor and Alonso have played in every game so far this season (correct me if I'm wrong please) and might want to finish things off in that regard in the season finale, and then remove them during the game.

Padres 6, S.F. Giants 2


Padres have clinched the 5 seed. It'll be Pads at Mets on Friday and Saturday (and Sunday, if necessary).

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McNeil a car if he won the batting title this year during spring training???

first Met playoff game in 6 years.

With the way the matchups are though you have to figure the Mets/Padres will be in either the 4pm range or 9pm range for start time right?

I’d guess the lineup will be TB/Cle early followed by M’s/Jays, Phils/Cards and Mets/Pads in that order.

McNeil: .32645
Freeman: .32236

Freeman needs to go 4-4 today to beat Jeff

So... do you just sit Jeff? Doesn't seem in his nature but I guess we'll find out later

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first Met playoff game in 6 years. With the way the matchups are though you have to figure the Mets/Padres will be in either the 4pm range or 9pm range for start time right? I’d guess the lineup will be TB/Cle early followed by M’s/Jays, Phils/Cards and Mets/Pads in that order.

Actually won’t be 9pm from Citi but I’ll be curious to see the schedule MLB comes up with

had a superb season. Way, way above expectations. Not easy to navigate 100 wins in any year with any roster of ballplayers. The Braves were just relentless as summer kicked off as shown in the charts Optimus-NY posted above, and they never cooled off.

And in no way is it over for New York. A year ago very few here in Atlanta had much hope for the Braves to make it to the promised land but some good pitching and a handful of epic at bats got them thru it.

Look forward to a good postseason of watching who comes out of the NL...

Sitting on pins and needles for the Saturday game time.

In comment 15846852 moze1021 said:

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McNeil: .32645 Freeman: .32236 Freeman needs to go 4-4 today to beat Jeff So... do you just sit Jeff? Doesn't seem in his nature but I guess we'll find out later

He should sit because he needs the two day rest, just like the other regulars

In comment 15846903 Jimmy Googs said:

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had a superb season. Way, way above expectations. Not easy to navigate 100 wins in any year with any roster of ballplayers. The Braves were just relentless as summer kicked off as shown in the charts Optimus-NY posted above, and they never cooled off. And in no way is it over for New York. A year ago very few here in Atlanta had much hope for the Braves to make it to the promised land but some good pitching and a handful of epic at bats got them thru it. Look forward to a good postseason of watching who comes out of the NL...

Yes, of course. While there are things you can complain about, it’s hard to be too down about a team that wins 100 games.

I don’t think that I would have signed up for it to go down the way it did, but the bottom line is that we are a damn good team. They have a really tough road ahead of the…so let’s see what damage they can do.

I think the thing that troubles me is that the front office did not facilitate success.

No need to rehash other than to say the handling of Alvarez was the most bizarre thing I have ever seen.

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I think the thing that troubles me is that the front office did not facilitate success. No need to rehash other than to say the handling of Alvarez was the most bizarre thing I have ever seen.

+1. Would you guys agree that there seemed to be a bit of a conflict of interests in the Mets' front office with Sandy and his son along with Eppler and Buck? Vientos and Alvarez should have been called up a long time ago, so that Alvarez's at bats in Atlanta wouldn't be the first ones he swung during the regular season.

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McNeil: .32645 Freeman: .32236 Freeman needs to go 4-4 today to beat Jeff So... do you just sit Jeff? Doesn't seem in his nature but I guess we'll find out later

I had a slight rounding/truncation error in above

McNeil: 0.32645
Freeman: 0.32237

If McNeil goes 0-0... Freeman needs 4-4

If McNeil goes 0-1... Freeman needs 4-4
If McNeil goes 1-1... Freeman needs 5-5

If McNeil goes 0-2... Freeman needs 3-3
If McNeil goes 1-2... Freeman needs 5-5

If McNeil goes 0-3... Freeman needs 3-3
If McNeil goes 1-3... Freeman needs 4-4
If McNeil goes 2-3... Freeman needs 6-6
If McNeil goes 3-3... Freeman needs 8-8

If McNeil goes 0-4... Freeman needs 2-2
If McNeil goes 1-4... Freeman needs 4-4
If McNeil goes 2-4... Freeman needs 5-5
If McNeil goes 3-4... Freeman needs 7-7
If McNeil goes 4-4... Freeman needs 9-9

So really no risk at all in giving Jeff a start.. if he gets a hit in his 1st AB, he basically forces a 5-5 day for Freddie... but if he is hitless in that 1 AB, it changes nothing

If McNeil goes 2-2... Freeman needs 6-6

I'd give McNeil the start at 2B today (the Mets are short on middle infielders now). He's a gamer and wants to play. I'd give him one or two at-bats and then pull him in the early to middle innings and then bring in Escobar off the bench to play second base (I'd sit Escobar to start the day at 3B and give Vientos the start there).

would you start Bassit in Game 2? Then, if you lose Game 2, you could start Scherzer in Game 3. If you win Game 2, you'd have Scherzer able to go Game 1 and Game 5 vs LAD. Seems like the upside to that is a lot more than the downside.

MLB Postseason schedule


Wild Card Series game times announced - mlb.com - 12 minutes ago - Thomas Harrigan (@HarriganMLB) - ( New Window )

WILD CARD SERIES (ALL TIMES ET)
Friday, Oct. 7
Rays @ Guardians, Game 1, 12:07 p.m., ESPN
Phillies @ Cardinals, Game 1, 2:07 p.m., ABC
Mariners @ Blue Jays, Game 1, 4:07 p.m., ESPN
Padres @ Mets, Game 1, 8:07 p.m., ESPN

Saturday, Oct. 8
Rays @ Guardians, Game 2, 12:07 p.m., ESPN2
Mariners @ Blue Jays, Game 2, 4:07 p.m., ESPN
Padres @ Mets, Game 2, 7:37 p.m., ESPN
Phillies @ Cardinals, Game 2, 8:37 p.m., ESPN2

Sunday, Oct. 9
Mariners @ Blue Jays, Game 3, 2:07 p.m., ABC (if necessary)
Rays @ Guardians, Game 3, 4:07 p.m., ESPN (if necessary)
Padres @ Mets, Game 3, 7:37 p.m., ESPN (if necessary)
Phillies @ Cardinals, Game 3, 8:37 p.m., ESPN2 (if necessary)

For Any Three-Game Scenarios on Sunday

1. If the TB @ CLE series is over:
a.) SEA @ TOR remains as scheduled.
b.) SD @ NYM moves to 4:00 p.m. (ET) on ESPN (instead of 7:30 p.m. (ET) on ESPN)
c.) PHI @ STL moves to 7:30 p.m. (ET) on ESPN (instead of 8:30 p.m. (ET) on ESPN2)

2.) If the SEA @ TOR series is over, then there are no changes to the original schedule.

3.) If the PHI @ STL series is over, then there are no changes to the original schedule.

4. If the SD @ NYM series is over:
a.) SEA @ TOR and TB @ CLE remain as scheduled.
b.) PHI @ STL moves to 7:30 p.m. (ET) on ESPN (instead of 8:30 p.m. (ET) on ESPN2)

For Any Two-Game Scenarios on Sunday

1. If the TB @ CLE and SEA @ TOR series end:
a.) SD @ NYM moves to 4:00 p.m. (ET) on ESPN (instead of 7:30 p.m. (ET) on ESPN)
b.) PHI @ STL moves to 7:30 p.m. (ET) on ESPN (instead of 8:30 pm ET on ESPN2)

2. If the SEA @ TOR and SD @ NYM series end:
a.) TB @ CLE will remain at 4:00 p.m. (ET) on ESPN
b.) PHI @ STL moves to 7:30 p.m. (ET) on ESPN (instead of 8:30 p.m. (ET) on ESPN2)

3. If the TB @ CLE and SD @ NYM series end:
a.) SEA @ TOR moves to 4:00 p.m. (ET) on ESPN (instead of 2:00 p.m. (ET) on ABC)
b.) PHI @ STL moves to 7:30 p.m. (ET) on ESPN (instead of 7:30 p.m. (ET) on ESPN2)

4. If the SD @ NYM and PHI @ STL series end:
a.) SEA @ TOR moves to 4:00 p.m. (ET) on ESPN (instead of 2:00 p.m. (ET) on ABC)
b.) TB @ CLE moves to 7:30 p.m. (ET) on ESPN (instead of 4:00 p.m. (ET) on ESPN)

5. If the SEA @ TOR and PHI @ STL series end, then there are no changes to the TB @ CLE and SD @ NYM game times.

6. If the TB @ CLE and PHI @ STL series end:
a.) SEA @ TOR moves to 4:00 p.m. (ET) on ESPN (instead of 2:00 p.m. (ET) on ABC)
b.) SD @ NYM will remain scheduled at 7:30 p.m. (ET)

For Any One-Game Scenario on Sunday

1. If there is only one game, it will be scheduled at 7:00 p.m. (ET) on ESPN.


Wild Card Series game times announced - mlb.com - 20 minutes ago - by Thomas Harrigan (@HarriganMLB) - ( New Window )

but playoff baseball is playoff baseball and I am looking forward to it.

if needed from the originally scheduled 7:37 pm EST start. Games 1 and 2 though are set in stone with respect to their scheduled starting times (pending weather of course).

It'll probably be a bullpen game with Williams starting it off in a little over two and a half hours from now. I'll start a thread for it in about two hours.




Probable Starting pitchers today for Nats at Mets - October 5, 2022 - ( New Window )

In comment 15847193 Optimus-NY said:

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In comment 15847115 Vanzetti said: Quote: I think the thing that troubles me is that the front office did not facilitate success. No need to rehash other than to say the handling of Alvarez was the most bizarre thing I have ever seen. +1. Would you guys agree that there seemed to be a bit of a conflict of interests in the Mets' front office with Sandy and his son along with Eppler and Buck? Vientos and Alvarez should have been called up a long time ago, so that Alvarez's at bats in Atlanta wouldn't be the first ones he swung during the regular season.

I said it earlier on this thread - a hallmark of Alderson is indecision. In trades and in callups. He constantly left the bench shorthanded while trying to decide whether or not to put players on the DL, while other GMs complained about how hard he is to trade with because he would take forever to make decisions

The handling of the minor leaguers is just another piece of evidence that Alderson has been running the show

What do you make of Sandy no longer being the President next season and just being a consultant to the owner? Who are the Mets going to go after for that role? Stearns in Milwaukee?

Freeman IS in the Dodgers lineup

He needs to go 4-4 to overtake Jeff

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Freeman IS in the Dodgers lineup He needs to go 4-4 to overtake Jeff

5-6 or 5-7 would get it done too mathematically so making an out or 2 doesn't technically end it, but practically not really feasible

In comment 15847402 Optimus-NY said:

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What do you make of Sandy no longer being the President next season and just being a consultant to the owner? Who are the Mets going to go after for that role? Stearns in Milwaukee?

The Milwaukee owner hates big market teams and has never let Stearns interview. Maybe Stearns can finally talk him into it

Other than that, I dont want the guys from KC and Texas who were canned this season

It seems Alderson will lead this process, which would be bad