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Is 4-4 @ the bye the most realistic scenario?

SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/4/2022 6:47 pm
GB in London, home vs. Ravens, @ Jags, & @ 'Hawks.

We're going to be significant dogs in two of them (Pack & Baltimore) & the other two are frisky & will be @ home. I'm not entirely shocked about the Jags because I thought Pederson would do wonders for Trevor, but am surprised the 'Hawks are 2-2 & Geno is looking like he has thus far this season.

Being 4-4 @ the bye would feel like a letdown come the 3-1 sugar high, but as most of us acknowledge: this wasn't a really good football team even before the injuries, which are starting to comically mount. This coaching staff is coaching their asses off, but @ the end of the day-to use a Rolle expression-I fear our lack of talent will be exposed when we play some big boy teams like the Packers & Ravens. I think a split of Jax & Seattle is entirely doable. Of course I'd love to be proven wrong & we're 5-3 or hell 6-2 @ the break (7-1 & I'd be driving Daboll 10/31), but I'm trying to be a realist.
we can easily be 3-5 at bye  
Payasdaddy : 10/4/2022 6:56 pm : link
just so much lack of skill at WR and injuries creeping up everywhere
and two tough games coming up
that being said, , i do think 4-4 may be realistic will will win one more close game

as long as we are close in q4 and have a chance, all I can ask for in 2022
Realistic probably not. Hopefully optimistic Yes. It has been a long  
Ivan15 : 10/4/2022 7:11 pm : link
Time since we can even think about a 0.500 record at the break.
I guess realistic is  
joeinpa : 10/4/2022 7:20 pm : link
In the eye of the beholder

I d be disappointed in a 1-3 record in these next 4 games
I’d sign for 4-4  
Sean : 10/4/2022 7:36 pm : link
I’ve been saying that. Considering where this franchise has been, 4-4 is fantastic.

Also, I never bought this idea that this team was a 3-4 win team. Vegas had their over/under at 7 for a reason and they are usually on the mark. I was listening to Boomer Esiason say he thinks the Giants will go 2-11 the rest of the way. Wtf?

NFL games are close. Good head coaches manage games to win which Daboll has shown he can do well thus far. The Giants have the following games on their schedule: Seahawks, Texans, Lions, Commanders x2 & Colts. Every one of those games is winnable. Every one. And they will lose one of them no doubt, but they can also steal a game against someone else.

And before someone brings up missed field goals and muffed punts, that happens in every game. All these games are close. 3-1 is 3-1.
RE: I’d sign for 4-4  
joeinpa : 10/4/2022 8:00 pm : link
In comment 15846421 Sean said:
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I’ve been saying that. Considering where this franchise has been, 4-4 is fantastic.

Also, I never bought this idea that this team was a 3-4 win team. Vegas had their over/under at 7 for a reason and they are usually on the mark. I was listening to Boomer Esiason say he thinks the Giants will go 2-11 the rest of the way. Wtf?

NFL games are close. Good head coaches manage games to win which Daboll has shown he can do well thus far. The Giants have the following games on their schedule: Seahawks, Texans, Lions, Commanders x2 & Colts. Every one of those games is winnable. Every one. And they will lose one of them no doubt, but they can also steal a game against someone else.

And before someone brings up missed field goals and muffed punts, that happens in every game. All these games are close. 3-1 is 3-1.


Boomer is rarely objective about the Giants anymore
6-2 or 5-3  
PatersonPlank : 10/4/2022 8:46 pm : link
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I can see anything from 3-5 to 6-2.  
an_idol_mind : 10/4/2022 8:55 pm : link
The Giants should be dogs in all of those games, but each of those teams have significant flaws.
RE: RE: I’d sign for 4-4  
Sean : 10/4/2022 8:55 pm : link
In comment 15846455 joeinpa said:
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I’ve been saying that. Considering where this franchise has been, 4-4 is fantastic.

Also, I never bought this idea that this team was a 3-4 win team. Vegas had their over/under at 7 for a reason and they are usually on the mark. I was listening to Boomer Esiason say he thinks the Giants will go 2-11 the rest of the way. Wtf?

NFL games are close. Good head coaches manage games to win which Daboll has shown he can do well thus far. The Giants have the following games on their schedule: Seahawks, Texans, Lions, Commanders x2 & Colts. Every one of those games is winnable. Every one. And they will lose one of them no doubt, but they can also steal a game against someone else.

And before someone brings up missed field goals and muffed punts, that happens in every game. All these games are close. 3-1 is 3-1.



Boomer is rarely objective about the Giants anymore

Yep. And then he went over the Jets schedule and had them at 9-8. At least be fair.
If we give up more than 20 points we're in trouble  
Jerry in_DC : 10/4/2022 9:00 pm : link
The next 4 offenses are a step up from what we've seen so far. Even Seattle, which is pretty surprising.

We'll be underdogs in at least 3. So yeah 1-3 is a reasonable call.
I don't look at any of those  
Breeze_94 : 10/4/2022 9:05 pm : link
games and think there is no chance the Giants can win.

GB has flaws- this is the same team that almost lost at Lambeau to a depleted Pats squad with Bailey Zappe at QB.

Baltimore is the toughest draw, but has also been riddled by injuries - I'll be interested if the familiarity between Wink and the Ravens provides an advantage either way.

Jacksonville- a tough game that not many of us saw coming. It's too soon to say they are consistently a good team- we may get the Jags team we saw in the Colts/Chargers game, or we may get the version we saw week 1 vs Washington and in the second half vs Philly.

Seattle- IMO this team has overachieved a bit on the offensive side of the ball. The 49ers are the only good defense they've faced and they looked awful. I do think the Giants have a good defense that can create similar issues for Seattle's offense- even at Lumin Field.
I’d take 4-4  
UConn4523 : 10/4/2022 9:06 pm : link
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7-1  
mattlawson : 10/4/2022 9:10 pm : link
Fuck all y’all
I think all of us  
AG5686 : 10/4/2022 9:28 pm : link
Would have signed up for 4-4 thru the first 8 games before the season began
RE: I think all of us  
Returning Video Tapes : 10/4/2022 9:31 pm : link
In comment 15846601 AG5686 said:
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Would have signed up for 4-4 thru the first 8 games before the season began


I thought if we could go 4-4 through the first 8 it was more likely than not we’d made the playoffs considering schedule and another new offensive system. You really only need 9 wins these days.
I don’t think so…  
trueblueinpw : 10/4/2022 9:38 pm : link
Like Tuna said, it’s not who you play it’s when you play them. So if Jones and the Giants are healthy, why not beat the Seahawks? Could also see a win against GB. Either way, probably best to ignore anything I’m predicting.
RE: 7-1  
pivo : 10/4/2022 9:39 pm : link
In comment 15846579 mattlawson said:
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Fuck all y’all


I worked with a guy from WV, and I’d bet that most New Yawkas didn’t know that “all y’all” is plural for y’all. Way to slip that educational bit of trivia in, Matt.
Baltimore is more susceptible than ever this year  
islander1 : 10/5/2022 12:26 am : link
as a local, everything is on Lamar's back.

The Offensive line is a mess right now, they are a Rashad Bateman injury away from having a WR room nearly as bad as ours.

Defense is opportunistic on turnovers, but otherwise really, really sloppy.
The last 2  
Joe Beckwith : 10/5/2022 12:29 am : link
are winnable, if we have a healthier team, which is possible.
Though I like the 7-1 as a fan.
Wink knows Lamar  
Lines of Scrimmage : 10/5/2022 7:36 am : link
as well as anyone. Really that whole team. I like that matchup. Green Bay is tough with all the injuries.

I be disappointed if they don't come out 2-2.

Great point above about the 20 pts. The D has given up 17.8 pts/game. This has been a very big key with our O limitations.
RE: I guess realistic is  
Brown_Hornet : 10/5/2022 7:42 am : link
In comment 15846404 joeinpa said:
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In the eye of the beholder

I d be disappointed in a 1-3 record in these next 4 games
Since when is 1-3 "hopefully optimistic?!"

Realistically, it's a tough schedule but hopefully optimistic has to be at least 2-2...right?
RE: If we give up more than 20 points we're in trouble  
Jimmy Googs : 10/5/2022 8:28 am : link
In comment 15846565 Jerry in_DC said:
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The next 4 offenses are a step up from what we've seen so far. Even Seattle, which is pretty surprising.

We'll be underdogs in at least 3. So yeah 1-3 is a reasonable call.


yep, spot on Jerry...
I think 5-3 is very realistic  
illmatic : 10/5/2022 8:31 am : link
Assuming either Jones or Tyrod can be healthy enough to play during that stretch. The Jags and Hawks are both very beatable. Even if they drop one of those games, I can see them potentially beating the Ravens since Wink knows that team so well. Wouldn’t be easy but it can happen.
Going to be tough the next two weeks  
JonC : 10/5/2022 8:45 am : link
with all of the injuries impacting NYG, and then the two road games before the bye. Got to get healthier ...
And it’s all  
Carl in CT : 10/5/2022 9:32 am : link
DJ’s fault if we are 4-4.
RE: And it’s all  
JonC : 10/5/2022 9:43 am : link
In comment 15846959 Carl in CT said:
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DJ’s fault if we are 4-4.


Who said that? Strawmen are not convincing arguments ...
RE: And it’s all  
Jimmy Googs : 10/5/2022 9:48 am : link
In comment 15846959 Carl in CT said:
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DJ’s fault if we are 4-4.


Did you really think through this before posting the above?
I'll be disappointed at 3-5  
AJ23 : 10/5/2022 9:57 am : link
cautiously optimistic at 4-4, and fired up at anything above that.
I have no idea what is realistic at all.  
gidiefor : Mod : 10/5/2022 10:18 am : link
So far this coaching staff has been making chicken salad out of chicken s**t imo. I'm just glad that the team is gritty, gutty, making any sort of progress, playing hard, and trying to win. It's been fun to watch. They even had a sort of puncher's chance in the Cowboys game. They have won games despite some very severe deficiencies.

Barkly has been exciting to watch. Sexy Dex has been a star. The defense has been playing hard. Jones and the rest of the offense has made it a combination of frustrating and interesting.

I just hope for progress. Improving Offensive line - especially the young guys. Improving TE squad. Improving Edge rushers. Feisty play from the LBs, CBs, and safeties. Continuing improvement by the rookies.

I am not holding out hope for the WRs -- unless the additions, if any, that come in can step up. That's a poor group.

If I see steady improvement - it will make me happy, because games and following the players will be more interesting.

That's where I'm at right now. 3-1 exceeded expectations!
gidie  
JonC : 10/5/2022 10:21 am : link
Yessir, the name of the game in 2022 is making progress, identifying parts to keep and holes to fill, and preparing for adding more parts next year. Enjoy the ride for whatever it may be, so far the new culture is producing tangible results and the coaching staff look like winners.
RE: RE: I guess realistic is  
joeinpa : 10/5/2022 10:24 am : link
In comment 15846872 Brown_Hornet said:
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In comment 15846404 joeinpa said:


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In the eye of the beholder

I d be disappointed in a 1-3 record in these next 4 games

Since when is 1-3 "hopefully optimistic?!"

Realistically, it's a tough schedule but hopefully optimistic has to be at least 2-2...right?


Yes, that s why I wrote 1-3 would be disappointing
I see 6-2,, Baltimore and jaguars have there problems  
MartyNJ1969 : 10/5/2022 10:40 am : link
this year.
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/9/2022 1:18 pm : link
The OP is an idiot.
RE: ...  
montanagiant : 10/9/2022 1:19 pm : link
In comment 15853910 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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The OP is an idiot.

LOL
RE: RE: RE: I guess realistic is  
Brown_Hornet : 10/10/2022 9:02 am : link
In comment 15847029 joeinpa said:
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In comment 15846872 Brown_Hornet said:


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In comment 15846404 joeinpa said:


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In the eye of the beholder

I d be disappointed in a 1-3 record in these next 4 games

Since when is 1-3 "hopefully optimistic?!"

Realistically, it's a tough schedule but hopefully optimistic has to be at least 2-2...right?



Yes, that s why I wrote 1-3 would be disappointing
I was agreeing with you...making the point that woe-is-me is a waste of energy.
This OP is an absolute idiot.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/16/2022 7:24 pm : link
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I missed that Jimmy Googs got banned  
Sean : 10/16/2022 8:07 pm : link
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RE: I missed that Jimmy Googs got banned  
FatMan in Charlotte : 10/16/2022 8:12 pm : link
In comment 15865929 Sean said:
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I'm sure he'll come back as LBI15 or whatever he paraded around as for an entire year
What did Googs get banned for?  
montanagiant : 10/16/2022 8:19 pm : link
Did he get caught in a lie again?
RE: What did Googs get banned for?  
UConn4523 : 10/16/2022 8:27 pm : link
In comment 15865977 montanagiant said:
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Did he get caught in a lie again?


Lol, guy was the biggest liar and instigator on this board. Missed he got banned to but I’m sure it was warranted.
RE: ...  
GNewGiants : 10/16/2022 8:54 pm : link
In comment 15853910 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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The OP is an idiot.


I don’t think he drinks enough lol
GNewGiants.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/16/2022 8:56 pm : link
The OP is an idiot. And an alcoholic. Total moron. Just ignore him.
RE: RE: What did Googs get banned for?  
montanagiant : 10/16/2022 9:15 pm : link
In comment 15866016 UConn4523 said:
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In comment 15865977 montanagiant said:


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Did he get caught in a lie again?



Lol, guy was the biggest liar and instigator on this board. Missed he got banned to but I’m sure it was warranted.

He really was an odd guy that made lying a key part of his posts
...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/16/2022 9:19 pm : link
The OP needs to lay off the sauce for awhile. 4-4? GTFO with that shit. He is a pussy with no confidence in this team.
RE: GNewGiants.  
jhibb : 10/16/2022 9:32 pm : link
In comment 15866111 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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The OP is an idiot. And an alcoholic. Total moron. Just ignore him.


Is this like one of those liar paradox thingies?
jhibb.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/16/2022 9:36 pm : link
The OP is an idiot. 4-4 at the bye? GTFO.
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