I was able to pick up M.Boone on waiver to handcuff M.Gordon. However, I am weak as hell at WR, so I need to scour FA for a potential fill-in or even long term solution. Or are my scrub WRs better than them?
I'm currently 3-1 with the highest point total and #2 in the league.
It's a 12 Team .5PPR SuperFlex.
Team:
QB: J.Allen, D.Jones, J.Fields
RB: A.Ekeler, M.Gordon, K.Herbert, D.Montgomery, C.Edmonds, M.Boone, G.Edwards (IR)
WR: S.Diggs, A.Robinson, M.Valdes-Scantling, D.Mooney
TE: T.Kelce
Some WRs available are: J.Meyers, R.Moore, T.Boyd, D.Chark, D.Peoples-Jones, K.Toney, J.Williams
MVS not sure. I don't see the upside with him.
I deemed Robinson droppable on my team. Could not see how I could ever trust him enough to start him. Dropped Robinson last night for Pickens.
I am in a tough spot. About to have my roster locked as some players are coming off IR or had status changes. Been trying to make trades but it’s just not very common in my league for people to do trades unfortunately. If so I will need to drop 2 players from my roster. Who would you drop from below? PPR and we get return yardage.
Qb: Lamar
Wr: Adams, Kirk, DK, London, Doubs
RB: Najee, Swift (q-in IR), Hines, Mattison, BRob (in IR but returning), Pachecho and White
TE: Waller
That’s my exact predicament, I rather keep Pachecho and White than Hines even with Taylor injured. Both look great and have been getting more work. Hard to drop Mattison, but he is only playable if Cook is injured. Although there is the potential that he is traded but idk. Tough spot for me I might just stick with leaving the players on my IR until I absolutely have to make a move.
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RBs are a thin lot, but guy is talented, Fournette is an old man in RB years, and the Bucs are acknowledging the odds of getting another completely healthy year of Fournette are slim so they are getting him more involved. If Fournette goes down guy, he's a lock for RB2 type numbers with some upside.
That’s my exact predicament, I rather keep Pachecho and White than Hines even with Taylor injured. Both look great and have been getting more work. Hard to drop Mattison, but he is only playable if Cook is injured. Although there is the potential that he is traded but idk. Tough spot for me I might just stick with leaving the players on my IR until I absolutely have to make a move.
Yeh I actually like Pacheko the player a whole lot and don't understand why he was so overlooked. But even if CEH goes down, he plays in Andy Reid offense where the usage of RBs is anyone's guess week to week and who gets those touches can be a mystery as well. Rachad White is flying waaaay under the radar and if he can prove himself in pass pro, even if Fournette doesn't get hurt, good chance you see a 50/50 timeshare by year's end in a solid offense where he's catching passes and probably outscoring Fournette.
so, now he's got a turd at QB and is just not consistently used in that offense.
whether benching him or playing him it is frustrating, so does anyone else have him on their team
We have big lineups:
QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, TE, W/R/T, W/R/T, D, K
that leaves 6 bench spots
and it's a keeper league so people hold on to prospects a little longer.
It's rare to have a handcuff that can't be relied on for points on their own, but those are mostly tandems (like Jones/Dillon or Harris/Stevenson) vs handcuffs
I'm jealous of others.
I'm not mad at you. This is an awesome squad in a 12-team league, no matter what anyone says about your WR2. But that can be improved.
I've dropped all shares of Allen Robinson. Had high hopes, but Stafford devotes too much of his targets to Kupp, then Higbee, with everyone else fighting for the scraps. Robinson has basically the same target share as Ben Skowrenek, who is decidedly not a fantasy commodity. I don't see this dynamic changing drastically without an injury to Kupp. And it's not likely to improve when Van Jefferson return to the lineup in a few weeks. It's time to move on.
Similarly, fare thee well, Marquez Valdes-Scantling. A 13-168-0 line on the season on 23 targets, the idea was great, but none of those KC wide outs are fantasy relevant right now. I might give Smith-Schuster a little bit more time, and hang on to Skyy Moore in deep dynasty leagues, but at this point, you can do better.
As for Mooney, I'm a little concerned but I think I'm going to give him a bit of a longer leash. We have to throw out week 1, the monsoon game against the Niners. But Mooney's utility will be directly tied to Justin Fields' progression as a passer and commander of that offense. If the light switch goes on for Fields, then Mooney can really help fantasy teams in the second half.
So Ronnie, I'm dropping both A-Rob and MVS if I'm you. I would immediately grab Jameson Williams if you have an IR slot, and even if you don't, roster him. Then it's Tyler Boyd. If you only have the IR slot that Edwards is in, drop him for Williams. I see the dynamic you have at RB with the Herbert/Montgomery and Gordon/Boone situation, and you may be concerned with byes and hoping Edwards can be a cheap fill-in by then, but that prognosis is unlikely as long as Dobbins is on the field, and even if he were to go to the bench, it's anyone's guess who would be the primary beneficiary of a Dobbins' injury.
So first, roster Williams, get in the IR spot. Then Boyd, then with the remaining spot, Kadarius Toney.
We all know Toney is uber-talented. We also know the Giants are completely bereft of weapons at WR. Peg, meet hole. My belief is that while Team Daboll may not trust Toney yet, he's running out of options. And at this point, Toney should be getting the offense or will very shortly. It's time to get him rostered, I believe he should be owned in most 10-team leagues. In a few weeks, you may have a WR2 you can play with confidence.
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RBs are a thin lot, but guy is talented, Fournette is an old man in RB years, and the Bucs are acknowledging the odds of getting another completely healthy year of Fournette are slim so they are getting him more involved. If Fournette goes down guy, he's a lock for RB2 type numbers with some upside.
That’s my exact predicament, I rather keep Pachecho and White than Hines even with Taylor injured. Both look great and have been getting more work. Hard to drop Mattison, but he is only playable if Cook is injured. Although there is the potential that he is traded but idk. Tough spot for me I might just stick with leaving the players on my IR until I absolutely have to make a move.
Yeh I actually like Pacheko the player a whole lot and don't understand why he was so overlooked. But even if CEH goes down, he plays in Andy Reid offense where the usage of RBs is anyone's guess week to week and who gets those touches can be a mystery as well. Rachad White is flying waaaay under the radar and if he can prove himself in pass pro, even if Fournette doesn't get hurt, good chance you see a 50/50 timeshare by year's end in a solid offense where he's catching passes and probably outscoring Fournette.
Dude, no. They are going to ride that Fournette horse all the way to the station. If Fournette gets hurt, yeah, I hope I have shares of White (he's rostered already in most leagues). But by no means is he ever getting a 50-50 split with Fournette, at least not this season. I don't think you realize what the Bucs and Tom Brady think about Fournette and what he represents to that Bucs' offense.
I have White in one league, but it's not like I'm relying on him, it's a keeper league and I drafted White in the 14th round. So would be nice to see, but not something I'm relying on.
It's week 5 and he's getting the lion's share of touches and producing #1 RB numbers. HE's in the most safe offense one could ask for.
IF they were pissed he would have been cut or benched.
I have White in one league, but it's not like I'm relying on him, it's a keeper league and I drafted White in the 14th round. So would be nice to see, but not something I'm relying on.
Exactly. I would definitely take a flier on White but I am not ignoring Fournette right now by any means.
I think it's 1: the Bucs are 25th in ypg rushing the ball and 2: they just didn't trust the rookie in pass pro early on
they love Fournette from what I'm told and most importantly Brady trusts him with blocking schemes, but I do think they feel like with their OL and offense they should be running the ball better and fresh legs will help.
Bateman, Mooney, Zay Jones, Corey Davis.
Right now, I think I'm going to go with Davis. 3 of his 4 weeks have been really solid and I know Wilson has a good rapport with him.
I do have Jameson Williams stashed. I'm hoping that's my guy once he's back.
Bowles is an old school coach and he isn’t just going to throw the rookie in their right away. They played Fournette so much because he’s the one guy they could trust not to screw things up early in season and get their 45 year old QB hurt. As the season progresses though this is gonna look more like a timeshare. They aren’t just going to abandon Fournette obviously but he doesn’t really offer much other than great pass pro, solid hands, and the ability to get the tough yard here and there. Thinking this guy is going to get treated like a bell cow back when there’s another option is myopic. Fournette isn’t a top back in the league and they leaned on him so much because they had no other options.
I live here also and have watched almost every Bucs game the last two years. I live just east of Tampa.
It's easy to talk about some phantom decline of Fournette after the K.C. game, when they were down two scores with 6 minutes to go in the first quarter, and never got closer than 10 as K.C. just kept scoring. They ran the ball six times total...it was just game script. It was the same against Green Bay, where the Packers got up 14-3 early and they weren't having much success with anything.
The Bucs have simply had a difficult situation with Godwin having barely played, Evans suspended a game, and even Julio Jones not on the field hardly at all since week 1. Brady has been trying to generate a passing game with receivers he doesn't have quite the rapport with, and it's early season anyway, with Brady having been gone for 2 weeks before the season trying to get the personal life situation in a better place.
But week 1 against a really good Dallas defense they relied heavily on Fournette, and he answered the bell with 21 carries and 127 yards on the ground, so I don't think the weight issue was a problem there. But that was when they had more of a threat to pass the ball with a full complement of Brady's receivers.
Week 2 he didn't get going much but it wasn't for a lack of trying, Fournette with 24 carries. But that score was either 3-0 or 3-3 until the 4th quarter, where the Bucs then took over.
The point is, yeah, Fournette isn't going to get the ball a ton when they are down multiple scores. But if the Bucs are really close or they have a lead, he's their bellcow. The opening season slate of Dallas, New Orleans, Green Bay, and Kansas City has done nothing to help matters with that offense and game script, and then throw the injuries and Evans suspension on top of that.
The Bucs play great complementary football when Brady is in sync with his receivers (will improve over the season, missing that time in camp hurt), and he has those talented receivers to throw to.
Now the schedule opens up with the Falcons, Steelers, and Panthers the next three weeks, and I expect Fournette will re-establish himself as a top 10 fantasy running back during this run.
White will remain as a 3rd down option and when Fournette needs a blow. But Fournette is the main man and will continue to be until and unless he gets hurt.
so, now he's got a turd at QB and is just not consistently used in that offense.
whether benching him or playing him it is frustrating, so does anyone else have him on their team
What an absolute disaster he has been. Never knew I hated Baker this much. I resorted to benching him for now - last week I grabbed and started Josh Reynolds over him. I don't see how Moore is startable at this point. A couple more of these weeks and I am cutting him. Thought I nailed the pick when he slide to the 5th round in my draft.
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so, now he's got a turd at QB and is just not consistently used in that offense.
whether benching him or playing him it is frustrating, so does anyone else have him on their team
What an absolute disaster he has been. Never knew I hated Baker this much. I resorted to benching him for now - last week I grabbed and started Josh Reynolds over him. I don't see how Moore is startable at this point. A couple more of these weeks and I am cutting him. Thought I nailed the pick when he slide to the 5th round in my draft.
exactly, I was not looking to draft him, but when he was sitting there with the last pick in the 4th round I thought it was a fair spot to take him.
I'll roll with him another couple weeks and then cut bait if things don't change.
Bateman, Mooney, Zay Jones, Corey Davis.
Right now, I think I'm going to go with Davis. 3 of his 4 weeks have been really solid and I know Wilson has a good rapport with him.
I do have Jameson Williams stashed. I'm hoping that's my guy once he's back.
I think I'd play Bateman. I know he's a bit of an all-or-nothing kind of guy in that offense because Lamar simply doesn't throw a ton and the targets are going to be subsequently suppressed. However, Bateman can score from anywhere, and although Lamar is 21st in the NFL in pass attempts, he's tied for first in TD passes. I think Bateman is pretty matchup-proof, but even still, there's a potential fantasy point bonanza this week with the Bengals coming to town.
Last season, the Bengals blew out the Ravens in both regular season meetings, Lamar throwing for 257 yards, and in the 2nd meeting, Josh Johnson stood in and threw for more than 300 yards and 2 TDs. I really want as many pieces of this game in my lineup as I can get unless have a clear better option.
I don't quite love the matchup with the Dolphins, I think they have an underrated defense and I'm also just waiting for the Garrett Wilson and/or Elijah Moore game. I think Wilson is really the main man there and will be most weeks, and rightfully so as I believe he's the biggest talent in that offense. So I just don't trust Davis to keep up flex-worthy production. To me, he's equally as boom-or-bust as Bateman, but with the lesser upside on the boom and probably the 3rd best receiver out of that Jets group, and eventually I think that's how the numbers are going to play out.
But, he's probably due to have a bigger game and I could see it this week.
I'm not mad at you. This is an awesome squad in a 12-team league, no matter what anyone says about your WR2. But that can be improved.
I've dropped all shares of Allen Robinson. Had high hopes, but Stafford devotes too much of his targets to Kupp, then Higbee, with everyone else fighting for the scraps. Robinson has basically the same target share as Ben Skowrenek, who is decidedly not a fantasy commodity. I don't see this dynamic changing drastically without an injury to Kupp. And it's not likely to improve when Van Jefferson return to the lineup in a few weeks. It's time to move on.
Similarly, fare thee well, Marquez Valdes-Scantling. A 13-168-0 line on the season on 23 targets, the idea was great, but none of those KC wide outs are fantasy relevant right now. I might give Smith-Schuster a little bit more time, and hang on to Skyy Moore in deep dynasty leagues, but at this point, you can do better.
As for Mooney, I'm a little concerned but I think I'm going to give him a bit of a longer leash. We have to throw out week 1, the monsoon game against the Niners. But Mooney's utility will be directly tied to Justin Fields' progression as a passer and commander of that offense. If the light switch goes on for Fields, then Mooney can really help fantasy teams in the second half.
So Ronnie, I'm dropping both A-Rob and MVS if I'm you. I would immediately grab Jameson Williams if you have an IR slot, and even if you don't, roster him. Then it's Tyler Boyd. If you only have the IR slot that Edwards is in, drop him for Williams. I see the dynamic you have at RB with the Herbert/Montgomery and Gordon/Boone situation, and you may be concerned with byes and hoping Edwards can be a cheap fill-in by then, but that prognosis is unlikely as long as Dobbins is on the field, and even if he were to go to the bench, it's anyone's guess who would be the primary beneficiary of a Dobbins' injury.
So first, roster Williams, get in the IR spot. Then Boyd, then with the remaining spot, Kadarius Toney.
We all know Toney is uber-talented. We also know the Giants are completely bereft of weapons at WR. Peg, meet hole. My belief is that while Team Daboll may not trust Toney yet, he's running out of options. And at this point, Toney should be getting the offense or will very shortly. It's time to get him rostered, I believe he should be owned in most 10-team leagues. In a few weeks, you may have a WR2 you can play with confidence.
Jim...thanks. I was able to get J.Williams in my IR spot and picked up both T.Boyd and K.Toney. For now, I'm going with T.Boyd as my WR2, but we'll see if I can dupe someone into trading me a low-level WR2 for C.Edmonds.
A - what the hell is anyone giving up for a guy that is only getting like 30% of backfield work - like yeh everyone noticed he has like a td per 5 touches right now
B - has the potential to look really silly when their lead back is an oft injured 30 year old in a very good offense.
And people thinking this is going to be the Fournette show by the time the playoffs role around are smoking the hopium. The coaching staff itself before last week said “we need to get him more involved”. Coaches often say this about RBs and they mean it. Lovie said it about Pierce after week 1 and it’s his been his show since and he’s looking like a RB 1.
This is going to be a Zeke-Pollard situation and I know who has much higher injury odds. Rookie RBs rarely come in right away, but it’s clear when they can play and snap counts moving in the right direction.
Current WRs: Higgins, A Rob, Dotson, Toney
RBs: Taylor, Hines, Barkley, J Williams, M Carter
I'm hesitant, but I think it helps both of us as he owns Swift and I need a decent #2 WR. Williams has been great since Swift has been out and he may very well be the #1 RB for Detroit from here on out.
Kirk - I honestly haven't watched any of him or JAX games, is he the real deal? Should I pull the trigger? I can always keep Williams as a solid FLEX and keep churning through the Waiver Wire to find a solid #2 WR, or hope A Rob does something to show he's still worth a roster spot. I just want to make sure it's a fair trade really.
Yay or Nay? And Thx in advance.