Landon Collins to the faraway towns
Now war is declared and battle come down
Landon Collins to the underworld
Come out of the cupboard, you boys and girls
Landon Collins, now don't look to us
Phony Beatlemania has bitten the dust
Landon Collins, see we ain't got no swing
Except for the ring of the truncheon thing
Good blitzer, downhill attacking style that fits well with what Wink does. Adds bit more more speed and aggressiveness to the second level of the defense alongside Jaylon Smith.
Plus, Giants run defense has struggled. Collins is strong coming down hill. Just don’t leave him in coverage.
I also wonder if they envision him spying a guy like Hurts when they matchup later in the season. I think he’d be okay in that role, and it would allow McKinney to roam free and make plays on the ball (something that has been lacking from a secondary that has 0 picks in 4 games so far)
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Landon Collins is taking the practice squad spot of veteran LB A.J. Klein, per source. Klein was added by the Giants earlier this week. He is being signed by another team off the Giants PSquad.
Oh. OK. It's just a PS signing, and only because we lost Klein.
great DG culture purge (Collins and OBJ) brought back
Was Collins part of DG's culture purge? I always thought he wasn't resigned because DG didn't want to tie-up that much of the salary cap on an often injured SS. The Skins gave him a six year $84m contract, with $32m guaranteed over the first couple years.
Plus, OBJ was no victim, he brought that on himself.
Yes, not long after he didn't use the tag on Collins Gettleman was asked if the Giants had a culture problem, he answered "not anymore".
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Landon Collins is taking the practice squad spot of veteran LB A.J. Klein, per source. Klein was added by the Giants earlier this week. He is being signed by another team off the Giants PSquad.
Makes much more sense than him signing directly to the 53.
It's kind of like what happened with Wyatt Davis. Any team had a chance to claim him, it didn't and like a day or two later, boom! A team decides to sign him.
And now with AJ Klein. He was a free agent all this time, he signs on our PS and a day later, a team signs him to the main roster.
One thing he did well was tackle and play on the box....
LC has shown in the past to talk too much to the media for the prior regime's liking, fwiw. He and OB and Josina collectively ...
Yea, you nailed it. I don’t love the shit stirrer that is Josina Anderson having close access to this team, hopefully Daboll is able to watch this more than McAdoo did.
It does smell of desperation on both sides. The Giants are thin at the position and have limited resources; LC has had trouble finding a job and is probably taking a lot less money than he thinks he's worth. Plus he seemed pretty angry at the Giants when he left, IIRC.
It does smell of desperation on both sides. The Giants are thin at the position and have limited resources; LC has had trouble finding a job and is probably taking a lot less money than he thinks he's worth. Plus he seemed pretty angry at the Giants when he left, IIRC.
Everybody swallowing their pride here.
Yep. He's only 28 but the player so many remember from 2016 hasn't been spotted very often since then. My expectations are rather low, he's coming off the couch to stopgap.
Still, we need depth and nothing wrong with sifting through the through the throwaways and thrifts looking for pieces that Wink can utilize to keep our defense competitive. I hope we are doing this with WRs as well. Hell I hope we are doing that for every position on the team... lol.
Landon Collins to the faraway towns
Now war is declared and battle come down
Landon Collins to the underworld
Come out of the cupboard, you boys and girls
Landon Collins, now don't look to us
Phony Beatlemania has bitten the dust
Landon Collins, see we ain't got no swing
Except for the ring of the truncheon thing
this still surprises me. I have mixed feelings. In the past, he's expressed no interest in switching to LB and is really undersized to play there. But, at the same time, he has to be better than most of the options we've been putting out there (one excellent game by Crowder against a bad offense aside). I mean, for the second year in a row, Smith essentially came off the street and made a bigger impact than our starters and that has more to do with the roster he walked on to, than his play.
As for S, Collins just doesn't measure up. All the Giants S are versatile. There is no true SS, FS, etc. they can each play either or both at any given time. Collins does not have the speed or cover skills to do a lot of what McKinney, Love, now Belton, do. So, it will certainly be interesting to see how they use him...and how soon.
The bottom line is, I really hope Love is back and truly healthy.
I love how this management is continually looking to upgrade….
How can you build a cohesive practice squad when teams poach from you.
Ridiculous. I know it is a players association-favored rule, but it is ridiculous. There should be a limit or if you get 2 or more....supplemental draft picks.
Come on NFL
If you like the guy that much you gotta roster spot them
Collins is on the practice squad not on a $70 mil contract. If Wink finds a specific role fine if he becomes a problem or doesn't execute than they can cut him. They were looking at him before Love was injured and he takes Klien's spot. If he plays well great because he costs next to nothing and if he stinks he's gone.
Get used to bargain bin shopping for the rest of the year as that's all this team can afford
I always thought Collins was way overrated here. He had that huge game in London. But, he doesn’t get home enough on the blitz, he’s just not good in coverage, he’s too small to play in the box and he’s not really a playmaker. Also seemed like he might have been a bit of locker room problem too but maybe I’m misremember or just plain wrong about that point. Tough for me to see how he makes the defense any better but - we'll hope for the best.
Wink wants to be able to play 3 safeties often. But the rookie has played well, so I only see LC being activated if one of the 3 ahead of him are injured. LC would play ahead of Pinnock, who is really a STer.
Wink wants to be able to play 3 safeties often. But the rookie has played well, so I only see LC being activated if one of the 3 ahead of him are injured. LC would play ahead of Pinnock, who is really a STer.
Yeah, I am not quite seeing this signing clearly. But, I think you are correct. They need a safety down in the box that can blitz and play the run. I think Love did this a lot, bit Collins is built more for that kind of defender. Collins is 20 lbs heavier than Love and hits like a truck. He may be just quick enough to cover TEs - more so than the ILBs.
Another piece for Wink to move around and attack.
RE: RE: RE: It would be funny to see multiple people that were victims of the
great DG culture purge (Collins and OBJ) brought back
Was Collins part of DG's culture purge? I always thought he wasn't resigned because DG didn't want to tie-up that much of the salary cap on an often injured SS. The Skins gave him a six year $84m contract, with $32m guaranteed over the first couple years.
Plus, OBJ was no victim, he brought that on himself.
Yes, not long after he didn't use the tag on Collins Gettleman was asked if the Giants had a culture problem, he answered "not anymore".
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Come to think of it, Collins did have a bad habit of airing the team's dirty laundry to the press.
Collins said that he and Snacks and OBJ talked up too much
Landon Collins to the faraway towns
Now war is declared and battle come down
Landon Collins to the underworld
Come out of the cupboard, you boys and girls
Landon Collins, now don't look to us
Phony Beatlemania has bitten the dust
Landon Collins, see we ain't got no swing
Except for the ring of the truncheon thing
I chuckled
I can't find mention of this anywhere. Please post a link.
Good blitzer, downhill attacking style that fits well with what Wink does. Adds bit more more speed and aggressiveness to the second level of the defense alongside Jaylon Smith.
Plus, Giants run defense has struggled. Collins is strong coming down hill. Just don’t leave him in coverage.
I also wonder if they envision him spying a guy like Hurts when they matchup later in the season. I think he’d be okay in that role, and it would allow McKinney to roam free and make plays on the ball (something that has been lacking from a secondary that has 0 picks in 4 games so far)
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Landon Collins is taking the practice squad spot of veteran LB A.J. Klein, per source. Klein was added by the Giants earlier this week. He is being signed by another team off the Giants PSquad.
Oh. OK. It's just a PS signing, and only because we lost Klein.
Lol
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assume this means that Love isn't playing. Fine with me, as long as his duties are largely limited to ST and the LOS when he's playing defense.
I would be pretty surprised if Collins is active Sunday. He is traveling to London today and might get one walk thru practice in before the game.
Probably true, but he could play ST at least.
My expectations for him are not very high, but it'd be nice to be wrong.
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great DG culture purge (Collins and OBJ) brought back
Was Collins part of DG's culture purge? I always thought he wasn't resigned because DG didn't want to tie-up that much of the salary cap on an often injured SS. The Skins gave him a six year $84m contract, with $32m guaranteed over the first couple years.
Plus, OBJ was no victim, he brought that on himself.
Yes, not long after he didn't use the tag on Collins Gettleman was asked if the Giants had a culture problem, he answered "not anymore".
link - ( New Window )
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Landon Collins is taking the practice squad spot of veteran LB A.J. Klein, per source. Klein was added by the Giants earlier this week. He is being signed by another team off the Giants PSquad.
Makes much more sense than him signing directly to the 53.
LC has shown in the past to talk too much to the media for the prior regime's liking, fwiw. He and OB and Josina collectively ...
And now with AJ Klein. He was a free agent all this time, he signs on our PS and a day later, a team signs him to the main roster.
I learned early on the only names on the back of my jerseys are MINE and the franchise QB. Thats it.
LC has shown in the past to talk too much to the media for the prior regime's liking, fwiw. He and OB and Josina collectively ...
Yea, you nailed it. I don’t love the shit stirrer that is Josina Anderson having close access to this team, hopefully Daboll is able to watch this more than McAdoo did.
You're right, but my guess is that Wink will find a way to use his talents.
Everybody swallowing their pride here.
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He has not been good since he left us.
It does smell of desperation on both sides. The Giants are thin at the position and have limited resources; LC has had trouble finding a job and is probably taking a lot less money than he thinks he's worth. Plus he seemed pretty angry at the Giants when he left, IIRC.
Everybody swallowing their pride here.
Yep. He's only 28 but the player so many remember from 2016 hasn't been spotted very often since then. My expectations are rather low, he's coming off the couch to stopgap.
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Wink Martindale says the Giants play a positionless defense. Where does Landon Collins fit?
“We’ll find some place he likes,” Martindale said.
+1 LOL
Were you expecting Micah Parsons or Aaron Donald to be picked up off the scrap heap and signed to the practice squad?
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we signed one of our draft picks to a second contract!
Webb and now Collins. 2 in a row
Lol
Landon Collins to the faraway towns
Now war is declared and battle come down
Landon Collins to the underworld
Come out of the cupboard, you boys and girls
Landon Collins, now don't look to us
Phony Beatlemania has bitten the dust
Landon Collins, see we ain't got no swing
Except for the ring of the truncheon thing
Lol - used to play this song in a band long ago.
He lives by the river.......
As for S, Collins just doesn't measure up. All the Giants S are versatile. There is no true SS, FS, etc. they can each play either or both at any given time. Collins does not have the speed or cover skills to do a lot of what McKinney, Love, now Belton, do. So, it will certainly be interesting to see how they use him...and how soon.
The bottom line is, I really hope Love is back and truly healthy.
We’ll screw him!
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Off the giants practice squad
We’ll screw him!
Speak for yourself!
We’ll screw him!
How can you build a cohesive practice squad when teams poach from you.
Ridiculous. I know it is a players association-favored rule, but it is ridiculous. There should be a limit or if you get 2 or more....supplemental draft picks.
Come on NFL
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Wink Martindale says the Giants play a positionless defense.
Long past time Julian gets extended IMO.
Get used to bargain bin shopping for the rest of the year as that's all this team can afford
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He has not been good since he left us.
Were you expecting Micah Parsons or Aaron Donald to be picked up off the scrap heap and signed to the practice squad?
So by the law of syllogism, he should be a pro bowler now that he’s back on the team
Yeah, I am not quite seeing this signing clearly. But, I think you are correct. They need a safety down in the box that can blitz and play the run. I think Love did this a lot, bit Collins is built more for that kind of defender. Collins is 20 lbs heavier than Love and hits like a truck. He may be just quick enough to cover TEs - more so than the ILBs.
Another piece for Wink to move around and attack.
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great DG culture purge (Collins and OBJ) brought back
Was Collins part of DG's culture purge? I always thought he wasn't resigned because DG didn't want to tie-up that much of the salary cap on an often injured SS. The Skins gave him a six year $84m contract, with $32m guaranteed over the first couple years.
Plus, OBJ was no victim, he brought that on himself.
Yes, not long after he didn't use the tag on Collins Gettleman was asked if the Giants had a culture problem, he answered "not anymore".
link - ( New Window )
OBJ was no locker room cancer. He was a leader who just wanted to win.
John Mara texted him that he hated to see him leave, thanked him for what he did for the franchise and "the door is always open," whatever that means.
Last year in 13 games he had three sacks, two picks, seven tackles for a loss, one forced fumble and two fumble recoveries. That's pretty productive.
In 2019 he only played 5 games. Two sacks, one pick five tackles for a loss and a forced fumble.
He can tackle and makes a few plays.