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reports that Wan'Dale is on the sideline during practice with sweats on. He moved around well yesterday but it appears he needs another week. Daniel just can't get a break with the receiving group #Giants
This is not the year to rush guys back. This is a year clear out the system and get a look at the young guys.
We do not want him working through a nagging injury all year. We want him playing at full strength.
Our whole operation seems to be pretty smart. They know that this year is not about wins and losses. So I have a reasonable amount of confidence that they'll do the right thing in these situations
criticisms are in jest (comparing to Toney), but to be clear these are two different kinds of guys in terms of intangibles; one has all the good ones (be patient with him; he is a top notch kid) the other seems to be happy with his RD1 contract and doesn't feel it necessary to actually play
with the packers? Or maybe they did not want him to practice right after a long plane ride (which makes no sense if he can play in an NFL game he can do a walk through)? But taking him on a plane ride to see Big Ben Parliament makes no sense if he is still injured.
Why? He practiced yesterday. They thought he was trending towards playing when they got on the plane
what changed on a plane ride? Didn't they go like immediately to the practice field when they landed
Haven't you ever seen an interview with an NFL HC or a MLB Manger, where the coach/mgr. says something like, "(Name of player) practiced today and said that he felt good. We'll see how he feels tomorrow."
The body doesn't always react to the stress of practicing on that day. Often you have to wait until the NEXT day to get a sense of how the player came through the practice.
if its 50/50, that typically never means that a player is going to go. Especially with a long travel game.
Didn't make sense to send him there.
It’s pretty simple, really. He practiced yesterday, obviously felt good afterward and they wanted to see how his knee responded the next day. Which is today. You guys having your panties in a bunch because they took him is very strange. Did he take your seat or something?
Have you guys ever flown 1st or business class overseas?
Hes not like scrunched up in a ball on the plane. And NFL travel is probably nicer than that.
Exactly. And I’m not sure why people thinking sitting on a plane is going to be that debilitating anyways. The guy doesn’t have arthritis for cryin out loud. At least I hope it’s not arthritis
It would have to be more Barkley than last week. You would think the Giants wouldnt want Jones to run as much as he did in last week's game plan and reinjure his ankle
Flea flicker appearance this week perhaps, and a bunch of screens to tight ends and receivers and Barkley
BBI: You idiot, there is no sense in not bringing him!
Nobody is saying that the Giants did not have a legitimate reason for bringing Wan'Dale, but there is also a reason why injured players don't travel with the team.
BBI: You idiot, there is no sense in not bringing him!
Nobody is saying that the Giants did not have a legitimate reason for bringing Wan'Dale, but there is also a reason why injured players don't travel with the team.
I dont understand why this is even a talking point. The doctors and coaches have all the information there to make their choices. We have nothing to second-guess it with.
BBI: You idiot, there is no sense in not bringing him!
Nobody is saying that the Giants did not have a legitimate reason for bringing Wan'Dale, but there is also a reason why injured players don't travel with the team.
I dont understand why this is even a talking point. The doctors and coaches have all the information there to make their choices. We have nothing to second-guess it with.
It is one thing to say we leave our OUT players home and why not Wan'Dale then. It could mean multiple things, something happened on the plane, they were not sure etc. That inquiry leads to questions for the coach and maybe an answer or two.
The other take, which is "have you ever been in business class or first class" as if taking an injured athlete is ideal in "those conditions," is a completely absurd take given that virtually every injured player stays home for a variety of reasons, including all of our definitely out players for this game.
Bottom line: what happened between takeoff and going directly to the practice field that changed. Seems like a legitimate inquiry to me.
they need bodies at WR even if they are barely JAGs.
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No one plays hurt anymore. The Union doesn’t want it. The team doesn’t want it. The players don’t want to because playing hurt devalues their stats and affects their next contract. Better to sit out.
Except for the most minor of injuries, almost every injury is at least 2 games missed, more likely 3 or 4 weeks. You are right that they should use IR and get replacement bodies in there until they get injured.
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RE: Hopefully we sit long enough to get him healthy
This is not the year to rush guys back. This is a year clear out the system and get a look at the young guys.
We do not want him working through a nagging injury all year. We want him playing at full strength.
Our whole operation seems to be pretty smart. They know that this year is not about wins and losses. So I have a reasonable amount of confidence that they'll do the right thing in these situations
It s always about wins and losses. What varies is the extent to which a FO is willing to go for short term gain. In this regard I agree, Giants are not, nor should they compromise future assets.
Getting Robinson on the field should be a priority, he needs to be evaluated
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reports that Wan'Dale is on the sideline during practice with sweats on. He moved around well yesterday but it appears he needs another week. Daniel just can't get a break with the receiving group #Giants
Clearly doesn't care about football
Clearly doesn't care about football
When Wan'Dale is on his 10th injury in just 1 and a quarter seasons, I will agree with you.
Knee. The assumption is it is a sprained MCL.
They clearly misjudged how much time Wan'Dale would be out.
Use the IR Schoen….please, what do you think it is there for?
Let me help you- all NY Giant receivers need a minimum of weeks to heal, even if it is a bruise or cut.
I look at these college Saturday games and all the WR's are out there running like deer down the field.
We draft a few and suddenly they have injuries to their legs they never had before.
Really seems to me that in college, they are motivated to get paid in the NFL and when they get paid....PFFFT!
SAD
Why? He practiced yesterday. They thought he was trending towards playing when they got on the plane
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That was pretty stupid to make him travel then.
Why? He practiced yesterday. They thought he was trending towards playing when they got on the plane
what changed on a plane ride? Didn't they go like immediately to the practice field when they landed
Didn't make sense to send him there.
We do not want him working through a nagging injury all year. We want him playing at full strength.
Our whole operation seems to be pretty smart. They know that this year is not about wins and losses. So I have a reasonable amount of confidence that they'll do the right thing in these situations
LOL - I have been thinking the same thing. Dude lasted ONE play...lol...not even a big hit...
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That was pretty stupid to make him travel then.
Why? He practiced yesterday. They thought he was trending towards playing when they got on the plane
what changed on a plane ride? Didn't they go like immediately to the practice field when they landed
Haven't you ever seen an interview with an NFL HC or a MLB Manger, where the coach/mgr. says something like, "(Name of player) practiced today and said that he felt good. We'll see how he feels tomorrow."
The body doesn't always react to the stress of practicing on that day. Often you have to wait until the NEXT day to get a sense of how the player came through the practice.
Didn't make sense to send him there.
It’s pretty simple, really. He practiced yesterday, obviously felt good afterward and they wanted to see how his knee responded the next day. Which is today. You guys having your panties in a bunch because they took him is very strange. Did he take your seat or something?
Exactly. And I’m not sure why people thinking sitting on a plane is going to be that debilitating anyways. The guy doesn’t have arthritis for cryin out loud. At least I hope it’s not arthritis
No, I'm not that rich.
man wanted a free trip to London, probably.
It would have to be more Barkley than last week. You would think the Giants wouldnt want Jones to run as much as he did in last week's game plan and reinjure his ankle
Flea flicker appearance this week perhaps, and a bunch of screens to tight ends and receivers and Barkley
BBI: You idiot, there is no sense in not bringing him!
Nobody is saying that the Giants did not have a legitimate reason for bringing Wan'Dale, but there is also a reason why injured players don't travel with the team.
BBI: You idiot, there is no sense in not bringing him!
Nobody is saying that the Giants did not have a legitimate reason for bringing Wan'Dale, but there is also a reason why injured players don't travel with the team.
I dont understand why this is even a talking point. The doctors and coaches have all the information there to make their choices. We have nothing to second-guess it with.
Sixth year in the league. What has he done that's worth talking about?
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but take Wan'Dale to not play.
BBI: You idiot, there is no sense in not bringing him!
Nobody is saying that the Giants did not have a legitimate reason for bringing Wan'Dale, but there is also a reason why injured players don't travel with the team.
I dont understand why this is even a talking point. The doctors and coaches have all the information there to make their choices. We have nothing to second-guess it with.
It is one thing to say we leave our OUT players home and why not Wan'Dale then. It could mean multiple things, something happened on the plane, they were not sure etc. That inquiry leads to questions for the coach and maybe an answer or two.
The other take, which is "have you ever been in business class or first class" as if taking an injured athlete is ideal in "those conditions," is a completely absurd take given that virtually every injured player stays home for a variety of reasons, including all of our definitely out players for this game.
Bottom line: what happened between takeoff and going directly to the practice field that changed. Seems like a legitimate inquiry to me.
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No one plays hurt anymore. The Union doesn’t want it. The team doesn’t want it. The players don’t want to because playing hurt devalues their stats and affects their next contract. Better to sit out.
Except for the most minor of injuries, almost every injury is at least 2 games missed, more likely 3 or 4 weeks. You are right that they should use IR and get replacement bodies in there until they get injured.
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We do not want him working through a nagging injury all year. We want him playing at full strength.
Our whole operation seems to be pretty smart. They know that this year is not about wins and losses. So I have a reasonable amount of confidence that they'll do the right thing in these situations
It s always about wins and losses. What varies is the extent to which a FO is willing to go for short term gain. In this regard I agree, Giants are not, nor should they compromise future assets.
Getting Robinson on the field should be a priority, he needs to be evaluated
It could mean multiple things, something happened on the plane,
Snakes?
Couldn't he have drafted those two without making the "boo boo in round 2"? And maybe we can wait until Beavers plays a single down in the NFL?
His size caused an opponent to fall into his knee?
Clearly doesn't care about football
Yeah, but he actually got hurt by making a play and getting crunched..
Well, outside of slayton he would be the most prolific scoring WR we have that "could" dress Sunday.
Daniel better step up and make plays! ;-)