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Morning folks! We'll do a thread for the game later tonight when it's appropriate (about an hour prior to game time or so). Check out the following:
SNY will have pre and post game coverage for all Mets post-season games. This link worked pretty well for me before:
Mets' SNY Baseball link that I've used
All (2 or 3) W.C. Round games for Mets-Padres will be on ESPN:
Wild Card Series game times announced - mlb.com | by Thomas Harrigan (@HarriganMLB) | October 5, 2022
The only possible change in time, other than inclement weather, could occur in Game 3 (Games 1 and 2 are set schedule-wise), as indicated in the article listed directly above. Here are highlights, with those relevant to the Mets underlined and in bold italics:
For Any Three-Game Scenarios on Sunday
1. If the TB @ CLE series is over:
a.) SEA @ TOR remains as scheduled.
b.) SD @ NYM moves to 4:00 p.m. (ET) on ESPN (instead of 7:30 p.m. (ET) on ESPN)
c.) PHI @ STL moves to 7:30 p.m. (ET) on ESPN (instead of 8:30 p.m. (ET) on ESPN2)
2.) If the SEA @ TOR series is over, then there are no changes to the original schedule.
3.) If the PHI @ STL series is over, then there are no changes to the original schedule.
4. If the SD @ NYM series is over:
a.) SEA @ TOR and TB @ CLE remain as scheduled.
b.) PHI @ STL moves to 7:30 p.m. (ET) on ESPN (instead of 8:30 p.m. (ET) on ESPN2)
For Any Two-Game Scenarios on Sunday
1. If the TB @ CLE and SEA @ TOR series end:
a.) SD @ NYM moves to 4:00 p.m. (ET) on ESPN (instead of 7:30 p.m. (ET) on ESPN)
b.) PHI @ STL moves to 7:30 p.m. (ET) on ESPN (instead of 8:30 pm ET on ESPN2)
2. If the SEA @ TOR and SD @ NYM series end:
a.) TB @ CLE will remain at 4:00 p.m. (ET) on ESPN
b.) PHI @ STL moves to 7:30 p.m. (ET) on ESPN (instead of 8:30 p.m. (ET) on ESPN2)
3. If the TB @ CLE and SD @ NYM series end:
a.) SEA @ TOR moves to 4:00 p.m. (ET) on ESPN (instead of 2:00 p.m. (ET) on ABC)
b.) PHI @ STL moves to 7:30 p.m. (ET) on ESPN (instead of 7:30 p.m. (ET) on ESPN2)
4. If the SD @ NYM and PHI @ STL series end:
a.) SEA @ TOR moves to 4:00 p.m. (ET) on ESPN (instead of 2:00 p.m. (ET) on ABC)
b.) TB @ CLE moves to 7:30 p.m. (ET) on ESPN (instead of 4:00 p.m. (ET) on ESPN)
5. If the SEA @ TOR and PHI @ STL series end, then there are no changes to the TB @ CLE and SD @ NYM game times.
6. If the TB @ CLE and PHI @ STL series end:
a.) SEA @ TOR moves to 4:00 p.m. (ET) on ESPN (instead of 2:00 p.m. (ET) on ABC)
b.) SD @ NYM will remain scheduled at 7:30 p.m. (ET)
For Any One-Game Scenario on Sunday
1. If there is only one game, it will be scheduled at 7:00 p.m. (ET) on ESPN. |
In short: the only possible change in time for Game #3 at Citi Field, should it be necessary to be played, can be to either 4 pm or 7 pm EST from 7:37 pm EST.
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Let's hope for some more Terrance Gore magic for a third year in a row!
Tonight's pitching matchup is already set:
October 7, 2022 - Starting pitching matchups for Padres at Mets
The Pads have already announced that lefthander Blake Snell is starting tomorrow, but the Mets haven't. What do you guys think of the strategy the Mets are likely using of starting Bassitt for Game 2 if they are victorious in Game 1 and starting deGrom in Game 2 if they lose Game 1? Personally, I'm all for it. We can chit chat about that and the reasons why in this thread if anyone would like, amongst other things.
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Here are some articles to start things off:
FYI - '86 Met World Champ Bobby Ojeda will throw out the ceremonial first pitch before Game #1 at Citi Field tonight.
Another FYI - The Mets are goin go to be wearing black tonight, as they have all year during Friday home games. It'll be the first time they've worn black in the postseason since Game 4 of the 2000 World Series against the Yankees.
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Mets Morning News: Postseason to the Max - By Chris McShane (@chrismcshane) | Oct 7, 2022 | 8:00am EDT
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Mets Wild Card Notes: Marte Not Ruled Out Yet - By Michael Mayer - October 6, 2022
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Morning Briefing: Mets Begin Postseason Run - By Johnluke Chaparro - Oct 7, 2022
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Opinion: Jacob DeGrom Should Start Game 2 vs Padres - By Robby Waldrop - Oct. 6, 2022
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MMO Roundtable: How Will Mets Fare In Wild Card Round? - By Michelle Ioannou - Oct. 6, 2022
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Let's share it here and consolidate all other info before the game here on this thread. Only about an hour to go before the Mets' post-season roster is in. Anyone that sees it posted anywhere, please post/share it out here. Only about 9 more hours to go :-) Here's the forecast for later:
weather.com forecast for Flushing, NY around gametime- Oct. 7, 2022
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To close off, here's a neat little postseason hype video someone made for this year's club. Hopefully this'll help to put things into perspective this year: this is one of the best teams in baseball and can win a championship, no matter what happened down the stretch.
Enjoy :-)
#LFGM!
2022 Mets Hype Video #LFGM - (
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Naquin
Vientos
Carrasco
Walker
Williams (duh)
Yep. Didn't see Naquin was missing until after the Marte post. But, agreed that is a pretty good indication.
OF depth would be Canha, Nimmo, Marte, McNeil, and Gore. Gore is a PR pretty much exclusively, so doubtful McNeil is starting in the OF, with just a wish that Marte is healthy in a day or two. Naquin off almost definitely means Marte is ready to go fully.
Notes: It consists of 26 players with a maximum of 13 pitchers.
Pitchers (I chose 12 instead of the allowed maximum of 13):
1-deGrom
2-Scherzer
3-Bassitt
*4-Carrasco instead of Walker
5-Diaz
6-Peterson
7-Ottavino
8-Lugo
9-May
10-Rodriguez
11-Smith
12-Givens
**13-EMPTY**
Infielders:
13 - Alonso
14 - McNeil
15 - Lindor
16 - Escobar
17 - Guillorme
Catchers:
18 - McCann (he is 4 for 10 against Darvish in his career to this point and hit well this past series)
19 - Nido
20 - Alvarez (C & DH) (I'm putting him here due to his power and raw ability; a righty bat will be needed against the Padres' staff with rife w/south paws and Snell in Game 2)
DHs:
21 - Vogelbach (Mets will need him this series)
22 - Vientos (by a shred over a pitcher since it's a three-game series and a righty bat will be needed against the lefties on the Padres' staff; Marte is gonna probably still be out along w/Ruf, Megill, & Williams)
Outfielders:
23 - Nimmo
24 - Canha
25 - Naquin (I doubt we see Marte until the NLDS, at the earliest---probably later, if they get past that point)
26 - Gore (his base running is a weapon in late innings and can EASILY be the difference in a close game)
Summary of how I'd roll:
12 pitchers (4 starters; 8 BP arms)
3 catchers (Alvarez can and might DH against Snell)
2 DHs (Vogelbach and Vientos)
5 IFs
4 OFs
I plugged in Carrasco for Walker because I want to preserve Walker for a start in the LAD series in the NLDS (a best-of-five series). I'd rather risk burning Carrasco in the WC series instead of Walker in a long relief emergency situation because in that case I'll lose my opportunity to start Walker against L.A. in the next series. I'd rather do it this way, then risk burning Walker in this Series in an emergency situation---and then be forced being stuck starting Carrasco instead against the Dodgers. Credit to Eric on Li for getting me to think more about this. It looks like Carrasco is being rewarded for his ineptitude at first glance, but it actually isn't since it's more of a question of who do you preserve vs who who do you burn?
They damn well better
Correct. Makes perfect sense actually. Carrasco really shat the bed though by not making it for this round of playoffs (he'll have three more chances if things go like the Mets hope though :-) ).
Awesome! I just hope they're not rushing Marte. I'm still stung by ghosts of Jeff Wilponzis past, if you know what I'm sayin', lol (Pedro Martinez certainly does!).
Take your list and substract Naquin, Carrasco, and Vientos. Add in Marte, and two others
Must be the case.
Ooooh. Dom is a thought
They must feel him and Vientos equal with bat, but prefer Ruf's ability to be a warm body in the OF
It would. That would mean Luis G would play 2B, which is fine by me in this potential scenario. Guillorme I've always thought has it in him to be a post-season performer. He's a weapon defensively and can swing the bat situationally. Combine that with Escobar's excellent play over the last month and we might have something here. IF Marte can perform, then this is the additional shot in the arm they needed offensively.
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Ruf is on per Heyman.
They must feel him and Vientos equal with bat, but prefer Ruf's ability to be a warm body in the OF
That probably was it. Makes sense in that regard, as much as we fans don't want to see Ruf ever again.
Carrasco is not on, so there is one missing player. I think Eric is right and it may be Dom. I don't know another pitcher that would be worthy unless they get Medina as mop-up or something
I would think Cahna would be in LF and McNeil would be in RF, as usual
Naquin, the quintessential Alderson player (K or HR, low contact), was a complete bust
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He has to be. Megill is the reason they didnt trade for Iglesias or Robertson
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He has to be. Megill is the reason they didnt trade for Iglesias or Robertson
That, and the refusal to pony up decent prospects. Read an article this morning that they were offering up prospects like Butto/Lee to the Cubs for Robertson and/or Contreras
Carrasco is not on, so there is one missing player. I think Eric is right and it may be Dom. I don't know another pitcher that would be worthy unless they get Medina as mop-up or something
Is this right?
Pitchers (12 out of a possible maximum of 13):
1-deGrom
2-Scherzer
3-Bassitt
4-Diaz
5-Peterson
6-Ottavino
7-Lugo
8-May
9-Rodriguez
10-Drew Smith
11-Givens
12-Megill
Catchers (3):
13 - McCann
14 - Nido
15 - Alvarez (C & DH)
DHs (2):
16 - Vogelbach
17 - Ruf (he can play the OF and 1B in a pinch_.
Infielders (5):
18 - Alonso
19 - McNeil
20 - Lindor
21 - Escobar
22 - Guillorme
Outfielders (4):
23 - Nimmo
24 - Canha
25 - Marte (replacing Naquin)
26 - Gore
Summary: 26-man roster positional breakdown:
- 12 pitchers (3 starters; 8 BP arms w/2 long relievers/spot starters in Peterson and Megill)
- 3 catchers (Alvarez can and might DH against Snell)
- 2 DHs (Vogelbach and Ruf; Vientos got sqeezed)
- 5 IFs (Ruf can also play 1B)
- 4 OFs (McNeil and Ruf can also play corner OF spots)
Notable players left off:
Naquin
Vientos
Carrasco
Walker
Dominic Smith
Trevor Williams
Notable additions:
Marte
Alvarez
Ruf
Givens
Drew Smith
Gore
Thanks for compiling the info folks!
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obviously also if it means Marte is back that's great news also.
Megill hasn't looked good but I expect he's essentially the mop up guy if necessary as opposed to Carrasco/Walker who aren't used to coming out of the BP. Carrasco hasn't been great either so no big loss there and while Walker has been good enough that you may regret not having him, i think there's logic to trying to hold him in reserve for the next series, and the reality that he was already half burned.
All in all I like the roster decisions. Even Ruf makes sense. He has played in the NL West and I'm sure he has experience against a lot of the Padres pitching staff (including this year). He's a veteran who is better suited to pinch hitting than any rookie with limited experience. He now gets a fresh slate and will come into these games in a very limited fashion. Take a good at bat against a lefty off the bench. His batted ball data wasn't awful most of the time he was here and he did take some good at bats and hit into some bad luck. He could very well get 1 big hit in this series and turn his entire narrative around very quickly.
-The only reasons Williams isn't on it now us because he pitched six innings two nights ago and this is a quick turn-around and a short best of three series.
2) Walker will be on the roster for the NLDS.
-The Mets will need him to start a game in that series. He's clearly the best candidate of the bunch to do so based on what's transpired recently. The Mets are almost definitely going to carry the maximum of 13 pitchers for a best-of-seven series (e.g., the NLCS and the WS) and might even do so in a best-of-five (e.g., the NLDS), but they definitely need Walker in the next round.
I know the ship has sailed on Dom, but I have a hard time adding Ruf to the roster vs. Dom. I know they aren't directly competing because Ruf is a righty, but with Alvarez on the roster as the guy who will get AB's vs. a lefty, it leaves fewer AB's for Ruf and I'd prefer to have a better defensive 1B on the roster than Ruf.
-The only reasons Williams isn't on it now us because he pitched six innings two nights ago and this is a quick turn-around and a short best of three series.
2) Walker will be on the roster for the NLDS.
-The Mets will need him to start a game in that series. He's clearly the best candidate of the bunch to do so based on what's transpired recently. The Mets are almost definitely going to carry the maximum of 13 pitchers for a best-of-seven series (e.g., the NLCS and the WS) and might even do so in a best-of-five (e.g., the NLDS), but they definitely need Walker in the next round.
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obviously also if it means Marte is back that's great news also.
Megill hasn't looked good but I expect he's essentially the mop up guy if necessary as opposed to Carrasco/Walker who aren't used to coming out of the BP. Carrasco hasn't been great either so no big loss there and while Walker has been good enough that you may regret not having him, i think there's logic to trying to hold him in reserve for the next series, and the reality that he was already half burned.
All in all I like the roster decisions. Even Ruf makes sense. He has played in the NL West and I'm sure he has experience against a lot of the Padres pitching staff (including this year). He's a veteran who is better suited to pinch hitting than any rookie with limited experience. He now gets a fresh slate and will come into these games in a very limited fashion. Take a good at bat against a lefty off the bench. His batted ball data wasn't awful most of the time he was here and he did take some good at bats and hit into some bad luck. He could very well get 1 big hit in this series and turn his entire narrative around very quickly.
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Great post Eric. Makes total sense. Game 2 against Snell will be interesting. Do you think we'll see Alvarez catching so the Mets can get his bat in the lineup against the lefty? I'm assuming Marte will be Dhing for this entire series when I say this.
They may leave Ruf off if Marte is fully ready to go in the OF, but I think Buck likes the flexibility in the position players to PH in the later innings.
I know the ship has sailed on Dom, but I have a hard time adding Ruf to the roster vs. Dom. I know they aren't directly competing because Ruf is a righty, but with Alvarez on the roster as the guy who will get AB's vs. a lefty, it leaves fewer AB's for Ruf and I'd prefer to have a better defensive 1B on the roster than Ruf.
No probs man! Check out Eric on Li's 12:23 post. I think he nailed it right there about the Ruf situation. I think it came down to Ruf vs. Vientos more than it did Dom due to the amount of lefties (5 out of 12---including Snell and Hader) on the Padres' staff and Snell pitching tomorrow. I would not be averse to adding Dom though if he's needed further down the line in the playoffs, if the Mets advance of course.
Here's to a few good weeks fellas
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He has to be. Megill is the reason they didnt trade for Iglesias or Robertson
That, and the refusal to pony up decent prospects. Read an article this morning that they were offering up prospects like Butto/Lee to the Cubs for Robertson and/or Contreras
Yes, they refused to give up prospects because there were waiting on Megill. They should have gotten Iglesias or Robertson
- 3 Catchers
- 7 IFs (including Machado---they've got Wil Myers listed as on OF on their website but as an IF on Twitter)
- 4 OFs (including Juan Soto)
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Padres' postseason roster in the WC Round
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They may leave Ruf off if Marte is fully ready to go in the OF, but I think Buck likes the flexibility in the position players to PH in the later innings.
For the Divisional Series you can easily argue that point. I agree with you.
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obviously also if it means Marte is back that's great news also.
Megill hasn't looked good but I expect he's essentially the mop up guy if necessary as opposed to Carrasco/Walker who aren't used to coming out of the BP. Carrasco hasn't been great either so no big loss there and while Walker has been good enough that you may regret not having him, i think there's logic to trying to hold him in reserve for the next series, and the reality that he was already half burned.
All in all I like the roster decisions. Even Ruf makes sense. He has played in the NL West and I'm sure he has experience against a lot of the Padres pitching staff (including this year). He's a veteran who is better suited to pinch hitting than any rookie with limited experience. He now gets a fresh slate and will come into these games in a very limited fashion. Take a good at bat against a lefty off the bench. His batted ball data wasn't awful most of the time he was here and he did take some good at bats and hit into some bad luck. He could very well get 1 big hit in this series and turn his entire narrative around very quickly.
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Great post Eric. Makes total sense. Game 2 against Snell will be interesting. Do you think we'll see Alvarez catching so the Mets can get his bat in the lineup against the lefty? I'm assuming Marte will be Dhing for this entire series when I say this.
i think Alvarez' best chance to get in at C is tonight with Scherzer because he's caught him before. i think the least chance of alvarez catching is whatever game bassitt starts because he seems hard on a catcher.
if they want to have both vogey and alvarez' bats in the lineup tonight vs. Yu, i think that's the best chance for alvarez starting at C. then id guess he DH's whenever SD starts Snell with 1 of the righty catchers in.
I have a feeling he has a very good postseason and never sees the minor leagues again (save for perhaps rehab)
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I know the ship has sailed on Dom, but I have a hard time adding Ruf to the roster vs. Dom. I know they aren't directly competing because Ruf is a righty, but with Alvarez on the roster as the guy who will get AB's vs. a lefty, it leaves fewer AB's for Ruf and I'd prefer to have a better defensive 1B on the roster than Ruf.
No probs man! Check out Eric on Li's 12:23 post. I think he nailed it right there about the Ruf situation. I think it came down to Ruf vs. Vientos more than it did Dom due to the amount of lefties (5 out of 12---including Snell and Hader) on the Padres' staff and Snell pitching tomorrow. I would not be averse to adding Dom though if he's needed further down the line in the playoffs, if the Mets advance of course.
Makes sense - I didn't think about the NL West connection but that's a good call. Not to mention he's probably better suited than anyone coming off the bench to PH in a big spot and deliver a quality AB.
Let's hope Max and DeGrom/Bassitt show up and can build momentum into LA. The blister is a little concerning but hopefully DeGrom can battle through it.
Did anyone catch ESPN expert predictions? 27 experts picked the Dodgers vs. 4 experts picked the Mets. 0 experts picked the Mets to make the WS and only 1 picked the Mets to win the NL. Even two people picked the 93-win Cardinals. It's amazing how down on the Mets everyone is after the last two weeks. I'm excited to be the underdog!
ESPN exclusive?
ESPN exclusive?
SNY wilk have pre-game and post-game coverage before every Mets playoff game for the entirety of this post-season run, but they will not be broadcasting anymore games until April. All Mets and Padres games in the W.C. round will be broadcast by ESPN (see the top of the thread).