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Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/13/2022 4:08 pm
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 11/13/2022 4:14 pm : link
Wasn't pretty, but I'll take an ugly win over a beautiful loss every time.
lol  
Thunderstruck27 : 11/13/2022 4:14 pm : link
thread was made as Gano's kick went through the uprights
Did anybody just see the end of the Bills -Vikings game?  
short lease : 11/13/2022 4:15 pm : link
Play is under review right now .... but that was batshit crazy.


If it stands - Buffalo handed them the win.

Almost as bad as the Picarcik fumble in the 70's.
gotta close better than  
bluepepper : 11/13/2022 4:16 pm : link
that. Had been good at finishing until the Jax game.

But 7-2 sure has a nice ring to it.
OMG !!!!!  
short lease : 11/13/2022 4:16 pm : link
touchdown Minnesota!
RE: lol  
kcgiants : 11/13/2022 4:16 pm : link
In comment 15905188 Thunderstruck27 said:
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thread was made as Gano's kick went through the uprights

Holy Sh. TD
RE: lol  
kcgiants : 11/13/2022 4:17 pm : link
In comment 15905188 Thunderstruck27 said:
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thread was made as Gano's kick went through the uprights

Holy SH TD stand
7-2  
thefan : 11/13/2022 4:17 pm : link
I think it was a well coached game against a bad Texans team.
That was a clinic  
mittenedman : 11/13/2022 4:17 pm : link
on how to blow a game by the Giants. And they still won by 11.
RE: RE: lol  
kcgiants : 11/13/2022 4:17 pm : link
In comment 15905197 kcgiants said:
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In comment 15905188 Thunderstruck27 said:


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thread was made as Gano's kick went through the uprights


Holy Sh. TD
OOp wrong tread
7-2 is good  
Rjanyg : 11/13/2022 4:18 pm : link
But this team looked both gassed and sloppy
What happened to our defense in the second half?  
Gary from The East End : Admin : 11/13/2022 4:18 pm : link
Also Jones didn't attempt a pass in the 4th quarter
7-2  
VanillaVick : 11/13/2022 4:19 pm : link
Feels good!
Two evenly matched teams  
M.S. : 11/13/2022 4:19 pm : link

Giants came away with a win.

Put it in the bank.

7-2.

The re-build is still in it’s very early stages.
RE: Did anybody just see the end of the Bills -Vikings game?  
short lease : 11/13/2022 4:19 pm : link
In comment 15905191 short lease said:
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Play is under review right now .... but that was batshit crazy.


If it stands - Buffalo handed them the win.

Almost as bad as the Picarcik fumble in the 70's.


my bad - still some time left.
RE: That was a clinic  
outeiroj : 11/13/2022 4:19 pm : link
In comment 15905202 mittenedman said:
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on how to blow a game by the Giants. And they still won by 11.


They won by 8
RE: What happened to our defense in the second half?  
thefan : 11/13/2022 4:19 pm : link
In comment 15905217 Gary from The East End said:
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Also Jones didn't attempt a pass in the 4th quarter


Held them to 16 points, multiple turnovers and multiple sacks. What exactly do you want? How is that not a success?
RE: Did anybody just see the end of the Bills -Vikings game?  
kcgiants : 11/13/2022 4:19 pm : link
In comment 15905191 short lease said:
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Play is under review right now .... but that was batshit crazy.


If it stands - Buffalo handed them the win.

Almost as bad as the Picarcik fumble in the 70's.


Holy Sh It stands. Bills has time to get a field to tie
M.S.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 11/13/2022 4:20 pm : link
You thought there was a good chance we'd go 0-4 the next 4 so...
IMHO, Kafka does not call  
section125 : 11/13/2022 4:20 pm : link
a good game. He gets very conservative. Then he calls silly things like Wan'Dale's handoff when Barkley and Breida are tearing them up left and right.

I just do not know what to think of him.

But one thing is for certain, Golladay will likely never get on the field in a uniform again.
A win is a win is a...  
Big Blue Blogger : 11/13/2022 4:20 pm : link
...you know the rest.

Even under the best of circumstances, screens are an issue for a defensive playcaller as aggressive as Martindale. With McKinney out, and the ongoing turnover at linebacker, it's not surprising that the Giants got burned a lot today.
If  
g56blue10 : 11/13/2022 4:21 pm : link
There is one thing I do question is the unwillingness to let Jones throw in the 4th quarter when we have a lead. I certainly understand our limitations but we are just settling for 3 and outs. If Jones has demonstrated one thing, it’s the ability to not make stupid mistakes
This is a team led by Barkley & the defense  
Sean : 11/13/2022 4:21 pm : link
Jones was asked to do very little today. I don’t get it.
Win is win  
ajr2456 : 11/13/2022 4:22 pm : link
One step closer to the playoffs. But this team is going to have some rough games the rest of the way if they can’t figure out a vertical passing game.
Refusing  
AcidTest : 11/13/2022 4:22 pm : link
to throw the ball is unsustainable. I know Houston has the worst run defense in the league and we probably have the worst WRs and TEs, but Kafka telegraphed every first down play as a run to Barkley. On several occasions, Barkley ran the ball four or five times in a row. Sure, Golladay dropped an easy pass and should be benched, but Kafka rarely made any attempt to move the ball down field through the air. What's even more puzzling is that there were no designed runs with Jones. And we did we try to score at the end of the half with so little time left and so far to go, even for a FG?

Thought the defense played well, especially Lawrence, Williams, and Jackson. Thibs is being held, but I agree he's not going to get those calls until he gets some sacks. And that won't happen until he gets stronger IMO.
Another nice game by DJ, Barkley, and the Defense.  
Vinny from Danbury : 11/13/2022 4:23 pm : link
Just getting the job done. And very nice strategic work in the game planning by the coaching staff with the heavy formations, and keeping their run game from killing us.
RE: If  
thefan : 11/13/2022 4:23 pm : link
In comment 15905233 g56blue10 said:
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There is one thing I do question is the unwillingness to let Jones throw in the 4th quarter when we have a lead. I certainly understand our limitations but we are just settling for 3 and outs. If Jones has demonstrated one thing, it’s the ability to not make stupid mistakes


Against a team like Philly or Dallas that can score, I'd go more aggressive. Against the Texans I think this makes sense.
Not all clowns wear shoes  
thefan : 11/13/2022 4:25 pm : link
Amazing reading some of these comments after a 7-2 start and never trailing a team they should beat AFTER A BYE. We lead the whole game after a bye and the mouth breathers of the internet are out in force.
RE: RE: Did anybody just see the end of the Bills -Vikings game?  
short lease : 11/13/2022 4:25 pm : link
In comment 15905227 kcgiants said:
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In comment 15905191 short lease said:


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Play is under review right now .... but that was batshit crazy.


If it stands - Buffalo handed them the win.

Almost as bad as the Picarcik fumble in the 70's.



Holy Sh It stands. Bills has time to get a field to tie



They just did ... Vikings blew it though. They should have called a TO (did they have any left?). That diving catch on the sideline was not a catch - IMO.
Jesus we were up more than a FG and two scores for majority of the gam  
Returning Video Tapes : 11/13/2022 4:25 pm : link
and we are trotting out KGs corpse and a bunch of number 3 and 4 options out there.

We essentially dominated that game.
RE: RE: Did anybody just see the end of the Bills -Vikings game?  
Boss 63 : 11/13/2022 4:26 pm : link
In comment 15905227 kcgiants said:
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In comment 15905191 short lease said:


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Play is under review right now .... but that was batshit crazy.

Yep watching it now


If it stands - Buffalo handed them the win.

Almost as bad as the Picarcik fumble in the 70's.



Holy Sh It stands. Bills has time to get a field to tie
RE: Not all clowns wear shoes  
BigBlueinDE : 11/13/2022 4:26 pm : link
In comment 15905254 thefan said:
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Amazing reading some of these comments after a 7-2 start and never trailing a team they should beat AFTER A BYE. We lead the whole game after a bye and the mouth breathers of the internet are out in force.


Exactly!
RE: RE: If  
g56blue10 : 11/13/2022 4:26 pm : link
In comment 15905245 thefan said:
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In comment 15905233 g56blue10 said:

I certainly support leaning on the run but it seems a little overkill. But stating that we are 7-2 so they have earned the benefit of the doubt
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There is one thing I do question is the unwillingness to let Jones throw in the 4th quarter when we have a lead. I certainly understand our limitations but we are just settling for 3 and outs. If Jones has demonstrated one thing, it’s the ability to not make stupid mistakes



Against a team like Philly or Dallas that can score, I'd go more aggressive. Against the Texans I think this makes sense.
RE: This is a team led by Barkley & the defense  
section125 : 11/13/2022 4:27 pm : link
In comment 15905234 Sean said:
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Jones was asked to do very little today. I don’t get it.


153.3 Rating today. But I agree, Kafka is just protecting the ball.
A win is a win is a win......  
Simms11 : 11/13/2022 4:27 pm : link
It was a very conservative game plan today. Run the ball, stop the run and don’t turn it over. It has worked all year as our margin for error is extremely razor thin, but it’ll come back to haunt us against teams with better offenses like Dallas, Philly and Vikes. 8 more games of which 5 are Division games too.
RE: IMHO, Kafka does not call  
BigBlueinDE : 11/13/2022 4:27 pm : link
In comment 15905230 section125 said:
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a good game. He gets very conservative. Then he calls silly things like Wan'Dale's handoff when Barkley and Breida are tearing them up left and right.

I just do not know what to think of him.

But one thing is for certain, Golladay will likely never get on the field in a uniform again.


He's the best play caller they've had here since 2017.
we have 7 wins  
islander1 : 11/13/2022 4:28 pm : link
I mean it's more than I expected.

We may end up 9-8 at the end, but there's virtually no chance we won't finish with a winning record. That's cool.
RE: A win is a win is a win......  
ajr2456 : 11/13/2022 4:28 pm : link
In comment 15905269 Simms11 said:
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It was a very conservative game plan today. Run the ball, stop the run and don’t turn it over. It has worked all year as our margin for error is extremely razor thin, but it’ll come back to haunt us against teams with better offenses like Dallas, Philly and Vikes. 8 more games of which 5 are Division games too.


Good thing is, they can lose those three games and still make the playoffs. Sweeping Washington is going to be key.
RE: Two evenly matched teams  
Sean : 11/13/2022 4:29 pm : link
In comment 15905219 M.S. said:
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Giants came away with a win.

Put it in the bank.

7-2.

The re-build is still in it’s very early stages.

Why be antagonistic? You are a good poster but you predict a loss every week. You predicted this team to win 3-4 wins. You said this would be a 3-4 YEAR rebuild. Yet, the Giants are 7-2.
RE: M.S.  
M.S. : 11/13/2022 4:29 pm : link
In comment 15905228 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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You thought there was a good chance we'd go 0-4 the next 4 so...


Three things:

(1) Here are my exact words:
2-2 in the next four games will be an amazing feat. 1-3 would hardly be shocking. And 0-4 I'm afraid is attainable.

(2) Compared with the fantasy statements this week by some BBIers about the resurrection of Kenny Golladay against Houston, my statement above isn’t so bad.

(3) And I said before the game that Kenny Golladay would do nothing today… several times.

I guess that makes me 1-for-2, batting .500! (:-) LOL
RE: A win is a win is a win......  
thefan : 11/13/2022 4:29 pm : link
In comment 15905269 Simms11 said:
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It was a very conservative game plan today. Run the ball, stop the run and don’t turn it over. It has worked all year as our margin for error is extremely razor thin, but it’ll come back to haunt us against teams with better offenses like Dallas, Philly and Vikes. 8 more games of which 5 are Division games too.


Maybe they will change the gameplan for those types of games? We'll find out soon.
M.S.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 11/13/2022 4:30 pm : link
I'm busting your balls, to an extent. Haha.
A win is a win  
Giantfan21 : 11/13/2022 4:30 pm : link
but Kafka last 2 games haven been very underwhelming.

Even if you want to run heavy , you still need to do a better job mixing it up and throwing more in the air to give the defense something other then Barkley to focus on. It especially doesn't make sense when Jones was having a good game and they were moving the ball well in the air and Kafka just refused to go back to it in the 4th Q.

On top of that, even if you are scared to throw , why not mix it up and have Jones run more to again give the defense something to think about .

They made this game too close and had to rely on turnovers by the defense and a long FG by Gano to win because Kafka was coaching this game scared with no creativity
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/13/2022 4:30 pm : link
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RE: RE: IMHO, Kafka does not call  
section125 : 11/13/2022 4:30 pm : link
In comment 15905274 BigBlueinDE said:
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In comment 15905230 section125 said:


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a good game. He gets very conservative. Then he calls silly things like Wan'Dale's handoff when Barkley and Breida are tearing them up left and right.

I just do not know what to think of him.

But one thing is for certain, Golladay will likely never get on the field in a uniform again.



He's the best play caller they've had here since 2017.


If that was meant as a compliment, it really isn't. But it is entirely possible that this is all the Daboll wants him to do.
I’m cause  
Carl in CT : 11/13/2022 4:31 pm : link
Still no WR’s and no OL. Jones missed 1 throw. It also didn’t matter cause we scored.
RE: RE: M.S.  
Thunderstruck27 : 11/13/2022 4:31 pm : link
In comment 15905283 M.S. said:
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In comment 15905228 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:


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You thought there was a good chance we'd go 0-4 the next 4 so...



Three things:

(1) Here are my exact words:
2-2 in the next four games will be an amazing feat. 1-3 would hardly be shocking. And 0-4 I'm afraid is attainable.

(2) Compared with the fantasy statements this week by some BBIers about the resurrection of Kenny Golladay against Houston, my statement above isn’t so bad.

(3) And I said before the game that Kenny Golladay would do nothing today… several times.

I guess that makes me 1-for-2, batting .500! (:-) LOL


Not sure how you called Golladay. Carnac the Magnificent
It is and has been about game planning  
BillT : 11/13/2022 4:31 pm : link
They have a plan, they stick to it, we’re 7-2 because of it. Who cares if Joes doesn’t pass in the 4th with a big lead. That’s smart strategy.
RE: It is and has been about game planning  
thefan : 11/13/2022 4:32 pm : link
In comment 15905294 BillT said:
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They have a plan, they stick to it, we’re 7-2 because of it. Who cares if Joes doesn’t pass in the 4th with a big lead. That’s smart strategy.


Exactly, unsexiest 7-2 ever is good with me. Best start since 2008.
RE: RE: A win is a win is a win......  
Giantfan21 : 11/13/2022 4:33 pm : link
In comment 15905284 thefan said:
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In comment 15905269 Simms11 said:


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It was a very conservative game plan today. Run the ball, stop the run and don’t turn it over. It has worked all year as our margin for error is extremely razor thin, but it’ll come back to haunt us against teams with better offenses like Dallas, Philly and Vikes. 8 more games of which 5 are Division games too.



Maybe they will change the gameplan for those types of games? We'll find out soon.


Would be nice if they had practice going for the kill against one of the worst teams in football instead of waiting till they play a great team
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