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WR Depth chart and outlook

nym172 : 11/15/2022 7:37 pm
pretty drastic change here in just the past 3-4 weeks.

WR1 is now Slayton who was inactive to start the season.
WR2 is now Wandle putting former WR2 to teh bench with almost no snaps in James.
WR3 is Hodgins who benched KG and made Sills inactive. Hodgins can block and play specials.

Who will be WR 4/5/6 - they have soured on KG/Johnson/James/Sills due to poor play, a multitude drops, lack of separation and fumbles etc.

Foster is my X factor on the practice squad, i think hes better than Johnson, knows Daboll/Schoen.

Pimpleton could take over James spot as PR/backup slot, but just a rookie.

Polk has interesting size/hands/route running and a prolific college career.

Will the practice 3 get a chance over the latter 4 of KG/Johnson/James/Sills?

im not out on shepard/johnson in 2023.

slayton i wish they negotiated with him a small 7-8 million dollar contract for 2-3 years hed accept. thats the going rate for WRs.

KG is going nowhere for this season unless they IR him. James/Johnson are vested vets i believe - which makes them hard to cut. Sills might be cut soon if they need a roster spot.
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sharp315 : 11/15/2022 9:18 pm : link
I think the plan for remainder of this season will be Hodgins at X, Slay as the Z, and Wandale in the slot. And pray they all stay healthy until the off-season.

Golladay will be lucky to see the active roster again.

Shep is done forever.

As for the others - Richie James, Marcus Johnson, David Sills - I don't see any of them coming back in 2023. This passing offense is bottom of the league for a reason. They need to overhaul this WR room completely.

2023  
GiantsRage2007 : 11/15/2022 9:31 pm : link
Robinson and all new faces.
I like the idea  
5BowlsSoon : 11/15/2022 9:36 pm : link
Of promoting the 3 WRs from PS and cut the 3 now on the 53- Johnson, Richie, and Sills.

Correct me if I’m wrong, but isnt Pimpleton noted for being an excellent ST player.
James is vested, and has played adequately as a fill-in slot.  
Big Blue Blogger : 11/15/2022 10:06 pm : link
There’s no reason to think Pimpleton would be a better backup to Wan’Dale. He might be a better punt returner… or not. Anyway, James’s salary is guaranteed, so he stays.

Hodgins has a fantastic opportunity - one he never got in Buffalo because his path was mostly blocked by Jake Kumerow, among others. He still has to show he belongs. Good start against Houston, and he’ll face another bad defense on Sunday. If he keeps making plays in the big division games, he can jump from Buffalo afterthought to Alpha Giant. Or maybe he goes silent and Daboll reverts to hoping Kenny Golladay rises from the crypt.

David Sills should be done, I guess maybe he’s Hodgins’s backup now? I’d be happy to never see him on the field again. As bad as Golladay has been, I still rather watch him - at least this week, against his old team.

Johnson is now Slayton’s backup. Somebody has to be, and I doubt he is any better or worse than the alternatives.
BTW, Marcus Johnson’s salary is not guaranteed.  
Big Blue Blogger : 11/15/2022 10:25 pm : link
Unlike Richie James, Johnson was not on the Week 1 roster.
Man that summary is depressing  
PatersonPlank : 11/16/2022 12:25 am : link
definitely the worst receiving corp in the NFL
RE: BTW, Marcus Johnson’s salary is not guaranteed.  
sharp315 : 11/16/2022 8:16 am : link
In comment 15909445 Big Blue Blogger said:
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Unlike Richie James, Johnson was not on the Week 1 roster.

Richie James is on a 1 year 1m guaranteed contract. He's for sure gone in the off season. I don't think he even played against Houston so if the staff is done with him he'll be gone soon anyhow to open a roster spot. 1m is a rounding error on the cap. His punt return mishaps aside he also dropped some catches in the middle of the year after a fairly promising start.
We need Wandale to make some more plays  
Jim in Forest Hills : 11/16/2022 9:09 am : link
Slayton is carrying the load but we need a 3rd down guy to emerge.
Darius Slayton - Perhaps a difficult decision  
Bob in Newburgh : 11/16/2022 9:31 am : link
No question on upper echelon athletic ability.

Big question on the "hands miracle" which seems to be occurring. We can tolerate an occasional drop in return for the big play ability, but this guy use to drop at least one a game. Also, could be a momentum killer as a well-executed third down pickup became a punt.

Last few weeks he has been catching everything. Not to look a gift horse, but one has to ask why?
RE: RE: BTW, Marcus Johnson’s salary is not guaranteed.  
Jim in Forest Hills : 11/16/2022 9:35 am : link
In comment 15909557 sharp315 said:
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In comment 15909445 Big Blue Blogger said:


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Unlike Richie James, Johnson was not on the Week 1 roster.


Richie James is on a 1 year 1m guaranteed contract. He's for sure gone in the off season. I don't think he even played against Houston so if the staff is done with him he'll be gone soon anyhow to open a roster spot. 1m is a rounding error on the cap. His punt return mishaps aside he also dropped some catches in the middle of the year after a fairly promising start.



Believe James returned punts in the 2nd half vs HOU (1 or 2)
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Ron Johnson : 11/16/2022 9:38 am : link
In comment 15909407 sharp315 said:
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I think the plan for remainder of this season will be Hodgins at X, Slay as the Z, and Wandale in the slot. And pray they all stay healthy until the off-season.

Golladay will be lucky to see the active roster again.

Shep is done forever.

As for the others - Richie James, Marcus Johnson, David Sills - I don't see any of them coming back in 2023. This passing offense is bottom of the league for a reason. They need to overhaul this WR room completely.


I don't think there is any plan at all. Guys have a chance every week to earn snaps. Daboll is demanding production from these guys every week. It's possible KG, James and Sills could all be active this week.
Robinson  
AcidTest : 11/16/2022 9:45 am : link
is the only WR guaranteed to return next season. Hodgins has a good chance if he plays well. Shepard, Johnson, Sills, James, and Golladay will not return.

Not sure about Slayton. He had to take a big pay cut just to stay with the team before the season started, but playing well could force the Giants to change their mind. His problem as others have noted, is drops.

James can be cut, but I don't think he will be. But I'm fine cutting him, Johnson, or Sills for Polk, Foster, or Pimpleton.
RE: Man that summary is depressing  
Simms11 : 11/16/2022 10:34 am : link
In comment 15909499 PatersonPlank said:
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definitely the worst receiving corp in the NFL


I wouldn’t say they’re the worst, if Slayton continues to play as he has. I think they’re an average receiving corps with his current play.
The rest of 22’  
Breeze_94 : 11/16/2022 11:59 am : link
We’ll see Slayton Hodgins and Wan’Dale I’d imagine.

I actually think Sills is the 4th best option…Johnson is more talented but doesn’t seem to have very good ball skills.

2023- it’s going to be tough to rebuild this group in FA. I think Slayton is back. The only appealing option to me is Hardman because of his speed and familiarity with Kafka- but he’s not a true #1 or #2 option. Still would be an upgrade from what they have…

Draft- I love Zay Flowers. He’s not big but he can fly. He can play the outside. Great route runner, explosive after the catch, and he has outstanding ball skills that help him play bigger than his frame. He’ll be an option at end of r1. Reminds me quite a bit of Jaylen Waddle.
RE: We need Wandale to make some more plays  
Ivan15 : 11/16/2022 12:27 pm : link
In comment 15909590 Jim in Forest Hills said:
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Slayton is carrying the load but we need a 3rd down guy to emerge.
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Hodgins may be the 3rd down guy that Golladay was supposed to be. Not impressed by Robinson so far. Waiting for that big ‘run after catch’ play. ______________________________________________
RE: We need Wandale to make some more plays  
jamalduff123 : 11/16/2022 2:41 pm : link
In comment 15909590 Jim in Forest Hills said:
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Slayton is carrying the load but we need a 3rd down guy to emerge.


It's early, but so far Wandale looks just OK. For a guy that's so tiny, you expect him to have electric speed an moves and they don't seem to be there.

Such a shame Toney didn't work out here, because he's 10 times more talented than Wandale.
thx to the WRs sort of fleshing things out  
djm : 11/16/2022 3:34 pm : link
we no longer have the worst wrs ever. At least these guys can play a little bit.
I still think we will end up getting something out of Golladay  
AnnapolisMike : 11/16/2022 3:38 pm : link
Before the end of the year. he just needs to get his confidence back.
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