Simply guarding yourself from failure. Yes we have glaring holes but this team is formidable. Our style of play counteracts the strengths of many of the top teams and is very similar to the Hosteler led 1990 Giants. Before you guys go crazy I am not comparing this team to the 1990 SB team. I and simply saying we are led by a mobile QB making smart decisions. A power running game and a stingy defense. Things are about to get very interesting over the last 8 games. I think the Eagles have a few more L’s on their schedule (2-3) Dallas is playing @ Minn and against us on a short week. If we fall back down to earth I’m fine with it we’ve already exceeded expectations. I do think many on here have tempered our success because none of this was expected instead of just riding the wave. We are 1 game out from the number 1 seed with more than half the year in the books. You all can be realists, I’ll be in fantasy land until further notice.
We’ve been in the upside down for the past 10 years feels good to currently be out!
IMO I’m thinking we won’t see McKinney again for a while and if we can get him back at least for a few games prior to end of season, I’d be ecstatic. Having a complete team getting into the playoffs at the right time is crucial if they want to keep playing Football after the regular season is over.
2022 NYG is playing with house money. Win 10 and make the playoffs and the season is a success. 2023 Giants are going to look a bit different ...
2022 NYG is playing with house money. Win 10 and make the playoffs and the season is a success. 2023 Giants are going to look a bit different ...
I am not making a promise but I think we beat the Cowboys on Thanksgiving, then we go on to sweep the Eagles. Yep, sweep. I know the history. The reason is that we are a VERY disciplined team, there will be weather. I feel this team is going to to win at least 12 games. I can't wait to watch the rest of the season.
I think we are 9-2 after Thanksgiving and a bona fide SB contender. If we get some home field advantage, no one is going to want to play this team at home in January. This team is physical and disciplined. The QB has made real strides. He doesn't give games away anymore and makes plays when needed.
No one I respect more this board than you sir, but I do think this team is better than being given credit for. The fact that the league isn't on board yet helps in our locker room. Easy motivation.
2022 NYG is playing with house money. Win 10 and make the playoffs and the season is a success. 2023 Giants are going to look a bit different ...
Bingo
Right now, the Giants inability to execute chunk plays and convert shots to points means that they are going to have to play near perfect football vs. teams that can afford mistakes.
That said, it does make for some exciting game day experiences.
2022 NYG is playing with house money. Win 10 and make the playoffs and the season is a success. 2023 Giants are going to look a bit different ...
That's right.. I said this exact thing on another thread recently:
"Jones cut turnovers by scaling down and playing conservatively. He has never scaled back up. Daboll is using the scaled down Jones to max effect. If Jones can scale up tomorrow and be a 4500 yard 35TD 8INT guy, let's do it. If he demonstrates he is capable of that level of performance I'll become a big advocate. But he hasn't, because he can't."
Jones needs to scale back up - ( New Window )
Darius Slayton
Wan'Dale Robinson
Kenny Golladay.
None, zero, zilch.
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Jones and the passing attack absolutely will need to scale up their productivity. Some below average to bad teams have hung in there with NYG, and a thin margin for error will be much harder to win vs the Eagles, Cowboys, Vikes, and Washington looks healthy and ready to make noise.
2022 NYG is playing with house money. Win 10 and make the playoffs and the season is a success. 2023 Giants are going to look a bit different ...
That's right.. I said this exact thing on another thread recently:
"Jones cut turnovers by scaling down and playing conservatively. He has never scaled back up. Daboll is using the scaled down Jones to max effect. If Jones can scale up tomorrow and be a 4500 yard 35TD 8INT guy, let's do it. If he demonstrates he is capable of that level of performance I'll become a big advocate. But he hasn't, because he can't." Jones needs to scale back up - ( New Window )
Jones is not calling the plays. He'll ramp it up when they call for it.
In the meantime, Daboll and Kafka clearly prefer putting it in Barkley's hands to putting it in Marcus Johnson's hands.
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if they beat Detroit and go 8-2...this one will be tougher.
then next week it will be “if they beat Dallas and go 9-2”
And?
That's the way the schedule is going to play out, isn't it?
How is it any different than the pollyanna refrain of "let's see how it plays out" whenever the team has struggled in the past (for years, literally)?
Darius Slayton
Wan'Dale Robinson
Kenny Golladay.
None, zero, zilch.
You are saying zero, zilch QBs could do it, which would imply none in the history of the game. Are you sure? Or is that just an annoyed, knee jerk response? Because just this season there is a player who is pretty close. Justin Herbert is close to those numbers and he is missing his two top WRs, tackles and TEs. And both his line situation and WR situation are arguably worse than Jones'. So maybe cool it with the angry certitude and zero, zilch stuff.
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Jones and the passing attack absolutely will need to scale up their productivity. Some below average to bad teams have hung in there with NYG, and a thin margin for error will be much harder to win vs the Eagles, Cowboys, Vikes, and Washington looks healthy and ready to make noise.
2022 NYG is playing with house money. Win 10 and make the playoffs and the season is a success. 2023 Giants are going to look a bit different ...
That's right.. I said this exact thing on another thread recently:
"Jones cut turnovers by scaling down and playing conservatively. He has never scaled back up. Daboll is using the scaled down Jones to max effect. If Jones can scale up tomorrow and be a 4500 yard 35TD 8INT guy, let's do it. If he demonstrates he is capable of that level of performance I'll become a big advocate. But he hasn't, because he can't." Jones needs to scale back up - ( New Window )
Jones is not calling the plays. He'll ramp it up when they call for it.
In the meantime, Daboll and Kafka clearly prefer putting it in Barkley's hands to putting it in Marcus Johnson's hands.
Maybe you're right. But more likely you are wrong. It's no secret that playing QB in the NFL is hard. Being a top passer in the NFL is even hardwr. Why do you feel you can project a trait for Jones that he has never demonstrated in 4 years? Why do you have this faith that he can be Allen, Rodgers, Burrow, Mahomes or Herbert when he "needs" to? Why wouldn't we see a glimpse of this ability in this very fine season the Giants are having? Great passers have had great passing games with lowly receivers. Most likely, this isn't a trait Jones possesses.
Look, I think a lot of what we are seeing is a mirage, but the league is so upside down right now, especially the NFC, that it's not out of the realm of possibilities we could make some serious noise.
I keep waiting for some signs of a league correction (offensive output to accelerate - there are 8 team scoring 25 PPG or >, last year there were 15 teams doing that), but it's just not happening.
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who would average 4500 yards, 35 TDs, and 8 INTs by throwing the ball to.
Darius Slayton
Wan'Dale Robinson
Kenny Golladay.
None, zero, zilch.
You are saying zero, zilch QBs could do it, which would imply none in the history of the game. Are you sure? Or is that just an annoyed, knee jerk response? Because just this season there is a player who is pretty close. Justin Herbert is close to those numbers and he is missing his two top WRs, tackles and TEs. And both his line situation and WR situation are arguably worse than Jones'. So maybe cool it with the angry certitude and zero, zilch stuff.
Knee-jerk reactions? LOL. Absolutely hysterical coming from you.
Why dont you point out that Mike Williams has missed a total of TWO games. I know it goes against your narrative and goal post moving posts but actual facts can be helpful when you use examples. I know facts arent your strong suit (or overall knowledge of football) but it helps when trying to make a point. And by the way.... Herbert isnt even on pace for 30 TDs - he is on pace for 26 which is NO WHERE near 35, he is on pace for over 8 INTs - so great example!
And of course every situation to you is worse than Jones! I mean Jones is only missing his top FOUR WRs from the year, multiple OL and the top 3 TEs that were signed to start the year. But would you ever mention that? Nah.... not your style to post facts.
Youre the same poster who posted many times throughout the year that Jones was holding back our WRs like Marques Johnson, Rickie James, and David Sills. So maybe your opinion should be withheld from time to time - dont you think? Or maybe your thoughts are the knee jerk reactions? God forbid - you ever admit to being wrong on something....