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AG5686 : 11/16/2022 2:34 pm
Huge road win for the Kaynixxx
I had a feeling they would bond together and pick up the intensity on D
I like the 9 man rotation without Fournier
He is a great shooter and can be used as such or traded...but not in the rotation
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It was a great win  
steve in ky : 11/16/2022 2:41 pm : link
I like that Thibbs has rewarded Reddish with more playing time, he is really coming into his own playing under Thibs. He’s been playing great D and probably the best on the team driving to the basket.

I do hope they find minutes for Grimes. As much as I like Rose and appreciate what he has done for the team since coming here, it may be time to give his minutes to Grimes.

Anyway, a great start to the road trip
Cam  
Spider43 : 11/16/2022 2:55 pm : link
Has turned into our best wing defender. I'm really happy for him, and the team. It's like the light switch finally turned on. Just slightly better shot selection, and he should be on his way. To be fair, he's been much better of late (shot selection). Keep 'growing', young man.
Grimes  
31southst : 11/16/2022 2:57 pm : link
The idea Grimes went from the least tradeable of the young guys to out of the rotation is crazy. I personally think there is more to his foot injury than has been announced, but if not, that is bad internal management on many levels.
Cam to me like Obi just need minutes  
nygiants16 : 11/16/2022 3:12 pm : link
Cam has all the tools and whrn he knows he is going to get consistent minutes, he is not going to force, he lets the game come to him..

I liked what Thibs did with the 9 man rotation, 2 of Quick, Cam and Rj were on the court at all times, so the wkng defense was very good..
player who gets you  
bigbluehoya : 11/16/2022 3:17 pm : link
9, 6, and 4 on 75% from the field needs more than 18 minutes.

It's boring to repeat day after day after day, but it will remain the truth.
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NYG22 : 11/16/2022 3:19 pm : link
I am not really a believer in Reddish but good for him that he's getting minutes and producing. I do think Grimes injury persists and its ruining his season so far. Its a shame because I think he is the best player under 25 on the team.
This team really doesnt even need Randle's scoring  
nygiants16 : 11/16/2022 3:21 pm : link
This team offensively is fine, if they could play defense like they did a couple of years ago they could be damn good
What is the deal with RJ’s knee?  
RAIN : 11/16/2022 3:41 pm : link
He’s been gimpy the last few games… surprised their is isn’t much on this.
RE: What is the deal with RJ’s knee?  
steve in ky : 11/16/2022 5:29 pm : link
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He’s been gimpy the last few games… surprised their is isn’t much on this.


Breen said he has been under the weather the past few games. He probably just has a bug and is playing through it.
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Gee Men Fan : 11/16/2022 5:44 pm : link
I think it was the end of the OT game with the Hornets - Knicks were diving all over the floor and I noticed Cam not go after a ball. Glad to see his development now - it seems he has bought in on D and hit athleticism is off the charts.
And Brunson’s ability to create shots in the paint among the bigs is amazing. He was awesome in the 4th last night!
They won last night inspite of Thibs  
larryflower37 : 11/16/2022 6:55 pm : link
I never root for losses especially with the Knicks lord knows I have seen more loss than any fan should but every win it justifies Thibs and his wacked out rotation.
Barrett is obviously sick last night and looked like he was sick but plays
37 minutes
Obi is crashing the boards, moving the ball and hot from 3
18 minutes.
Hartenstein is getting destroyed defensively
22 minutes.
Randle was up and down all night, isn't playing good defense and getting killed on the boards
31 minutes.
I know Thibs is big on analytics and it's all feel and watching film but I don't know what he is watching..
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AG5686 : 11/16/2022 7:39 pm : link
In comment 15910286 larryflower37 said:
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I never root for losses especially with the Knicks lord knows I have seen more loss than any fan should but every win it justifies Thibs and his wacked out rotation.
Barrett is obviously sick last night and looked like he was sick but plays
37 minutes
Obi is crashing the boards, moving the ball and hot from 3
18 minutes.
Hartenstein is getting destroyed defensively
22 minutes.
Randle was up and down all night, isn't playing good defense and getting killed on the boards
31 minutes.
I know Thibs is big on analytics and it's all feel and watching film but I don't know what he is watching..

My sense about Thibs over the last year or so is he realizes that Randle is the closest thing to an all star he has on the squad...and as such Thibs has hitched his wagon to Julius...
We know he is too stubborn to change or toncare what we think...so he will either succeed or go down with the Randle ship
IHart is a good back up 5 who can pass and stretch the D.
Sims isn't ready for more minutes..
So.until Mitch comes back this is what we got
Randle apparently led this players only meeting so the team respects him at the alpha dog.
I am all for more minutes for Obi...but Thibs is gonna be Thibs
I don’t mind terribly  
steve in ky : 11/16/2022 7:48 pm : link
Thibbs giving Randle a lot of minutes because there are not too many guys that can average 20-10-5, and when he is on his game he helps the team being on the floor.

But I wish he would get Toppin more minutes. They can go small with Randle at the five or play big and let Obi steal a few minutes from RJ and have him play SF. He just needs to look for look for the right matchups to take advantage of them.

Also when Randle is struggling and Obi is hot then my goodness stay with the hot hand.

But I’m not as down on Thibbs as many of you, I don’t long for a string of horrible coaches like we have lived through prior to Thibbs. I think it all works itself out and they figure it out.
RE: I don’t mind terribly  
AG5686 : 11/16/2022 8:37 pm : link
In comment 15910341 steve in ky said:
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Thibbs giving Randle a lot of minutes because there are not too many guys that can average 20-10-5, and when he is on his game he helps the team being on the floor.

But I wish he would get Toppin more minutes. They can go small with Randle at the five or play big and let Obi steal a few minutes from RJ and have him play SF. He just needs to look for look for the right matchups to take advantage of them.

Also when Randle is struggling and Obi is hot then my goodness stay with the hot hand.

But I’m not as down on Thibbs as many of you, I don’t long for a string of horrible coaches like we have lived through prior to Thibbs. I think it all works itself out and they figure it out.

I agree about Thibs...he is a top notch coach.That said if the team doesn't improve,especially on the Defensive end,I think he will be gone.
But I do think he can coach...and the guys seem to like him too
I completely disagree. He isn't a top notch coach. Far from it.  
robbieballs2003 : 11/16/2022 8:54 pm : link
He does good changing the culture of a new team when he comes in but he loses that luster fairly quickly. Good coaches adapt. He doesn't. He keeps slamming his head in the wall no matter what. It's beyond frustrating. He's not a bad coach but he also isn't a top notch coach either. He was perfect for this team when he first came here. Now he isn't. The roster has completely changed and he still does the same shit.
no jokic or gordon for denver  
nygiants16 : 11/16/2022 9:15 pm : link
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I don’t disagree that some of the things he does is frustrating  
steve in ky : 11/16/2022 9:18 pm : link
But he’s not a dummy, and he has quality assistants so we can’t assume that without the benefit of being there at practices and meetings we easily know better, and that any of the things we might do differently would translate into more wins
RE: no jokic or gordon for denver  
adamg : 11/16/2022 9:24 pm : link
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Seems like every team we play is short their star...
RE: I don’t disagree that some of the things he does is frustrating  
nygiants16 : 11/16/2022 9:33 pm : link
In comment 15910402 steve in ky said:
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But he’s not a dummy, and he has quality assistants so we can’t assume that without the benefit of being there at practices and meetings we easily know better, and that any of the things we might do differently would translate into more wins


Thibs is very good pregame, he is a good well prepared coach but in game he is horrible, he has no feel and constantly gets out coached
Fred Katz  
larryflower37 : 11/16/2022 9:42 pm : link
Tom Thibodeau on the possibility of sending Grimes to the G League to get him minutes: "We’ll just take it day by day, see where he is. I think him being here with us is the best thing right now."
RE: RE: I don’t disagree that some of the things he does is frustrating  
steve in ky : 11/16/2022 10:02 pm : link
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But he’s not a dummy, and he has quality assistants so we can’t assume that without the benefit of being there at practices and meetings we easily know better, and that any of the things we might do differently would translate into more wins



Thibs is very good pregame, he is a good well prepared coach but in game he is horrible, he has no feel and constantly gets out coached


While I agree with some of the complaints, I always think it’s a little naive when fans are so dogmatic that they know better than the coach and his staff.

My only point it while some of the moves may frustrate us we have no idea anything we suggest would translate into more wins, or even less fir that matter. In the 50+ years of watching sports faithfuls there have been numerous times fans clamored for some exciting young guy who looked great when he got time, to only look pedestrian if/when he did get a full time role. I’m not saying I don’t believe in any of our young guys because I do, but I also place a little more value a veteran coaching staff opinions.

Fans like to complain I get it, but that doesn’t make the complaints fact.

Anyway let’s see if they can keep up that effort from last night on a back to back!
Rj pass the fricken ball  
nygiants16 : 11/16/2022 10:13 pm : link
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Hartenstein is a terrible defender  
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RE: Hartenstein is a terrible defender  
adamg : 11/16/2022 10:18 pm : link
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I like Sims more than Hart.
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nygiants16 : 11/16/2022 10:19 pm : link
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I like Sims more than Hart.


Sims is not much better
Hartenstein just backed up  
nygiants16 : 11/16/2022 10:21 pm : link
almost to the 1st row on that pick and rol
Sit RJ  
larryflower37 : 11/16/2022 10:25 pm : link
He is obviously not 100%
I appreciate gutting it out but come on.
Outside of Reddish no one on the Knicks is interested in playing defense
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adamg : 11/16/2022 10:30 pm : link
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I like Sims more than Hart.



Sims is not much better


He's a freak though. And has potential.
hey larry  
adamg : 11/16/2022 10:32 pm : link
you delete the Vanilla Vick thread?
RE: hey larry  
larryflower37 : 11/16/2022 10:34 pm : link
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you delete the Vanilla Vick thread?

No!
Did it cross the line?
RE: RE: hey larry  
adamg : 11/16/2022 10:34 pm : link
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you delete the Vanilla Vick thread?


No!
Did it cross the line?


LMAO. I guess?
RE: RE: RE: RE: Hartenstein is a terrible defender  
nygiants16 : 11/16/2022 10:34 pm : link
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I like Sims more than Hart.



Sims is not much better



He's a freak though. And has potential.


agreed but Sims has to work on positioning and helping faster...when he does he is a good player
Obi is the fuckin man.  
robbieballs2003 : 11/16/2022 10:35 pm : link
We better build around him.
RE: RE: RE: hey larry  
robbieballs2003 : 11/16/2022 10:35 pm : link
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you delete the Vanilla Vick thread?


No!
Did it cross the line?



LMAO. I guess?


Lol
RE: RE: RE: hey larry  
larryflower37 : 11/16/2022 10:36 pm : link
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you delete the Vanilla Vick thread?


No!
Did it cross the line?



LMAO. I guess?


Hahaha....
I guess some one was offended by the "Richard" humor....
Some sensitive folks on BBI these days man  
adamg : 11/16/2022 10:37 pm : link
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Obi and Quick come in and change the energy  
larryflower37 : 11/16/2022 10:37 pm : link
Wasting these kids on the bench how long before Thibs pulls them?
Rj is clearly not right  
nygiants16 : 11/16/2022 10:38 pm : link
he shouldnt be playing, he is actively hurting this team
Fuck me.  
robbieballs2003 : 11/16/2022 10:44 pm : link
Barrett is off and just keeps trying to shot out of it. Just move the ball.
RJ needs a break  
adamg : 11/16/2022 10:44 pm : link
Put Cam in there
RE: Fuck me.  
nygiants16 : 11/16/2022 10:45 pm : link
In comment 15910481 robbieballs2003 said:
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Barrett is off and just keeps trying to shot out of it. Just move the ball.


He doesnt understand this yet, there are other scorers on this teM, if you are off work on defense, rebound and find the open man but Rj is the type kf player that will just keep shooting, its why his shooting numbers are absolute shit
This is just silly.  
bceagle05 : 11/16/2022 10:46 pm : link
We have a deep roster, no need to play guys who don’t belong out there due to injury/sickness/whatever.
Rj and Hartenstein  
nygiants16 : 11/16/2022 10:50 pm : link
are killing this team this half, both have been terrible on both ends..
This goes back to why Thibs needs to move on.  
robbieballs2003 : 11/16/2022 10:51 pm : link
I think Thibs is a great coach between games getting his team ready to play. I think he is one of the worst in game coaches.
Thibs must be fucking blind  
adamg : 11/16/2022 10:54 pm : link
RJ could hit the side of a barn with his shot right now... why is he in this game?
The starters have no energy whatsoever  
robbieballs2003 : 11/16/2022 10:54 pm : link
This is bad basketball.
Rj Barrett  
nygiants16 : 11/16/2022 10:54 pm : link
is 1 for 11 -10 and has played the msot minutes on the team..wtf are we doing?
couldn't.  
adamg : 11/16/2022 10:54 pm : link

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I've seen this story before with Thibs  
Anakim : 11/16/2022 10:58 pm : link
But sure, let's continue to ride an ice cold, clearly not well RJ
When was the last time Brunson took a shot?  
robbieballs2003 : 11/16/2022 10:58 pm : link
Ever since the starting unti came back in it has been Randle and Barrett.
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