NFT: It's the Knicks "don't suck" Knicks thread of the day

But Reddish has been such a bonus

At the very least, they are fun to watch. Sims’ D and board at the end of the game was huge.

LGK

so the fans who post in the other thread, who follow the team every day are "pretenders", Why? because we call out Thins for stupid rotations or Randle for bad defenze? interesting

Huge win ....The Kaynixxxx finally showed an identity -Defensive Intensity/Thibs' calling card
Even those of you drinking the RandleHateraid...need to admit he played outstanding!!!!
RJ is clearly under the weather,and probably should not have played so many minutes.
Cam,Brunson,IQ all stepping up
I had a feeling this road trip would be a bonding experience and so far it has been.

Interesting take.

No Jokic obviously helped.

So some poster that rarely posts on Knicks threads starts a thread for “real fans”? Isn’t that precious.

Alls great in Knicks land after beating Denver without their perennial MVP candidate! Bring out the real fan pom poms! Championship, baby!

Playing really good defense this year.

In comment 15910635 Heisenberg said:

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Playing really good defense this year.

He is. He's been really good this year on defense.

Streaking! House money for the rest of this roadie, for me. One more win for it to be a success. The defending champs ain't the same team, pounce on them!

But settle down, everyone. It's still early and we're still trying to get over injuries and new faces. Don't get too up, or too down. Look at our own G-Men. Enjoy it, but be realistic about things.

Can also rebound like a MF for his size/position. Really enjoying the start to his season.

Randle continues to increase his trade value and the Knicks can actually get a decent return for him.

And I would trade Randle pronto...and I'd still fire Thibs.


Put that in your pipe and smoke it

i am kidding, kind of 😉😄

In comment 15910675 nygiants16 said:

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i am kidding, kind of 😉😄

the guy is sick...cmon man

But the cashier sucks and needs to go, way too slow, no communication and body language is atrocious.

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In comment 15910675 nygiants16 said: Quote: i am kidding, kind of 😉😄 the guy is sick...cmon man

It was a joke

but being sick is not an excuse for how he played last night and i am jist going to leave it at that..

Move him to 6 man, he plays his best with the bench.
Let Quickley or even Grimes play the 2.
Randle has some mental issues all the talent in the world but insanely inconsistent in every part of the game. Last night took the ball to the rim, boxed out offensively and played lock down D in the 4th. He flashed like this in January of last season and it fell off in a hurry.
I don't think anyone trusts him outside of Thibs in the NBA.

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No Jokic obviously helped.

No Robinson for Knicks helped Denver

In comment 15910702 LTIsTheGreatest said:

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In comment 15910624 k2tampa said: Quote: No Jokic obviously helped. No Robinson for Knicks helped Denver

Jokic is a weeeeeeeeeeee bit better than Mitch

Missing an MVP level player really changed the expectations for the game. They are still a good team without him but this became a more winnable game.

In comment 15910684 larryflower37 said:

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But the cashier sucks and needs to go, way too slow, no communication and body language is atrocious.

I thought he was referring to the Sbarro's on 7th Avenue, that place can definitely go.

Because I want(ed) to give him more time to recover from whatever was ailing him recently. But I think we've already seen the ceiling for RJ. A good rotational player, but that's it. Not an All-Star. Shoot, I have(had) such high hopes for him. I didn't want to include him in the trade for Mitchell, and I thought he could be our version of Tatum-lite. But I think his ceiling is already upon us, and we'll only see very small incremental improvements going forward, if that. Yeah, I know he's a slow starter and he's improved every single year in the league. So I hope I'm wrong about his ceiling and he breaks through in a big way. But I think Reddish has a much higher ceiling, and might be the long(er)-term answer at the 2/3. Nothing wrong with being a solid rotational player at all. But I had higher hopes for the number three overall pick, that's all (don't tell me about Ja, I know; but I'm okay with missing out on Zion, a walking M.A.S.H. unit).

In comment 15910629 BigBlueShock said:

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So some poster that rarely posts on Knicks threads starts a thread for “real fans”? Isn’t that precious. Alls great in Knicks land after beating Denver without their perennial MVP candidate! Bring out the real fan pom poms! Championship, baby!

In comment 15910684 larryflower37 said:

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But the cashier sucks and needs to go, way too slow, no communication and body language is atrocious.

You're a hard man to please...

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Because I want(ed) to give him more time to recover from whatever was ailing him recently. But I think we've already seen the ceiling for RJ. A good rotational player, but that's it. Not an All-Star. Shoot, I have(had) such high hopes for him. I didn't want to include him in the trade for Mitchell, and I thought he could be our version of Tatum-lite. But I think his ceiling is already upon us, and we'll only see very small incremental improvements going forward, if that. Yeah, I know he's a slow starter and he's improved every single year in the league. So I hope I'm wrong about his ceiling and he breaks through in a big way. But I think Reddish has a much higher ceiling, and might be the long(er)-term answer at the 2/3. Nothing wrong with being a solid rotational player at all. But I had higher hopes for the number three overall pick, that's all (don't tell me about Ja, I know; but I'm okay with missing out on Zion, a walking M.A.S.H. unit).

RJ is a long way from his Prime and hopefully he continues to grow and his efficiency improves I don't think he is topped out yet.
Is he a star and will he be absolutely not everyone needs to lower the bar on him.

In comment 15910685 nygiants16 said:

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In comment 15910678 AG5686 said: Quote: In comment 15910675 nygiants16 said: Quote: i am kidding, kind of 😉😄 the guy is sick...cmon man It was a joke but being sick is not an excuse for how he played last night and i am jist going to leave it at that..

I mean... isn't being sick EXACTLY an excuse for how he played last night? Can we hold off on the doom and gloom for a bit?

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In comment 15910685 nygiants16 said: Quote: In comment 15910678 AG5686 said: Quote: In comment 15910675 nygiants16 said: Quote: i am kidding, kind of 😉😄 the guy is sick...cmon man It was a joke but being sick is not an excuse for how he played last night and i am jist going to leave it at that.. I mean... isn't being sick EXACTLY an excuse for how he played last night? Can we hold off on the doom and gloom for a bit?

What did i say that was doom and gloom?

In comment 15910608 nygiants16 said:

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so the fans who post in the other thread, who follow the team every day are "pretenders",

Hey, I don't make the rules on BBI. But once one segment of the fan base starts calling themselves real fans then it's too late for the other side of the argument to claim that title. So in this case, the optimistic Knicks fans are the real ones while it's the opposite in the Giant game threads.

"being sick is not an excuse for how he played last night and i am jist going to leave it at that.."

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And I would trade Randle pronto...and I'd still fire Thibs. Put that in your pipe and smoke it

No, you

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"being sick is not an excuse for how he played last night and i am jist going to leave it at that.."

Its not an excuse, i didnt say he sucks, i didnt say he has sucked all year, i didnt say trade him (it was a joke)..

But being sick and being sluggish is one thing, playing selfish, forcing shots is another and it ia not something new or because he was sick..

if certain people don't

then I'm going to threaten to delete this thread...


Just kidding. But seriously, I think JR has adjusted his game to Brunson skills more quickly than RJ

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In comment 15910635 Heisenberg said: Quote: Playing really good defense this year. He is. He's been really good this year on defense.

His 3-point shooting seems to have taken a step back and we rarely see that floater anymore. I figure he's working on sort of breaking down and rebuilding his game on offense, thinking more like a point guard. But he seemed to be on his way to being a logo shooter, and the Knicks could sure use that. Not complaining, just hoping for more from the kid.

In comment 15910793 81_Great_Dane said:

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In comment 15910637 Ten Ton Hammer said: Quote: In comment 15910635 Heisenberg said: Quote: Playing really good defense this year. He is. He's been really good this year on defense. His 3-point shooting seems to have taken a step back and we rarely see that floater anymore. I figure he's working on sort of breaking down and rebuilding his game on offense, thinking more like a point guard. But he seemed to be on his way to being a logo shooter, and the Knicks could sure use that. Not complaining, just hoping for more from the kid.

Quickley has learned how to effect the game without scoring, when he gets hot its awesome plus but he is effecting the gMe playing defense, rebounding and getting others open shots

Brunson
IQ
Cam
Obi
JR

Do it…

Reddish goes from bad to mediocre over a 14 game stretch and people slobber over him.

In comment 15910793 81_Great_Dane said:

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In comment 15910637 Ten Ton Hammer said: Quote: In comment 15910635 Heisenberg said: Quote: Playing really good defense this year. He is. He's been really good this year on defense. His 3-point shooting seems to have taken a step back and we rarely see that floater anymore. I figure he's working on sort of breaking down and rebuilding his game on offense, thinking more like a point guard. But he seemed to be on his way to being a logo shooter, and the Knicks could sure use that. Not complaining, just hoping for more from the kid.

I think he lent his floater to Hart... he might be taking it back soon...

so i couldn't stay up--woke up and watched rewind while on a vendor client call at work--what a pleasant surprise.

In comment 15910629 BigBlueShock said:

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So some poster that rarely posts on Knicks threads starts a thread for “real fans”? Isn’t that precious. Alls great in Knicks land after beating Denver without their perennial MVP candidate! Bring out the real fan pom poms! Championship, baby!

Yea the OP is a little....odd....but these were 2 huge wins no matter who played. 2 road wins against 2 winning teams right as the bottom appeared to be dropping out... you can't understate that.

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In comment 15910702 LTIsTheGreatest said: Quote: In comment 15910624 k2tampa said: Quote: No Jokic obviously helped. No Robinson for Knicks helped Denver Jokic is a weeeeeeeeeeee bit better than Mitch

Who fucking cares? You ever smile?

In comment 15910776 nygiants16 said:

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In comment 15910763 Jan in DC said: Quote: "being sick is not an excuse for how he played last night and i am jist going to leave it at that.." Its not an excuse, i didnt say he sucks, i didnt say he has sucked all year, i didnt say trade him (it was a joke).. But being sick and being sluggish is one thing, playing selfish, forcing shots is another and it ia not something new or because he was sick..

Not trying to be combative, but to me, that's a negative take. Like, it is an excuse that he's sick. If he's on the floor, he's going to play like he's going to play. He usually takes those shots, if he feels good maybe he makes them.

I mean Thibs surely knew that my dude was sick. Randle apparently was sick too. But if you guy who just doesn't have it, play someone else. I think you have to be mindful of all that.

we're going to hyper analyze and put a doomsday clock on RJB's career now? Just fucking take it one month and season at a time. He's a hard working glue guy who plays both ends. He's not "there" yet, maybe he never gets "there" but he's a solid two player. The NBA is filled with two way 20 PPG players that make 100 million. Just fucking calm down and stop taking this guy's temp (literally and figuratively) --it's not the end of the world if RJB stays exactly like this. And if he explodes in 1-2 years, and YES this can happen, even better.

Every fucking thread every game...same lamenting same worry same shit. Fucking relax. Same with NYG threads.

Cam has been much better than mediocre,especially on the Defensive end....he is just what we need.....perimeter Defender who gets in the passing lanes...his shooting can erratic,but when he takes it to the hoop things happen.
Count me as a member of the Cam Fan Club

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In comment 15910776 nygiants16 said: Quote: In comment 15910763 Jan in DC said: Quote: "being sick is not an excuse for how he played last night and i am jist going to leave it at that.." Its not an excuse, i didnt say he sucks, i didnt say he has sucked all year, i didnt say trade him (it was a joke).. But being sick and being sluggish is one thing, playing selfish, forcing shots is another and it ia not something new or because he was sick.. Not trying to be combative, but to me, that's a negative take. Like, it is an excuse that he's sick. If he's on the floor, he's going to play like he's going to play. He usually takes those shots, if he feels good maybe he makes them. I mean Thibs surely knew that my dude was sick. Randle apparently was sick too. But if you guy who just doesn't have it, play someone else. I think you have to be mindful of all that.

But if you are not feeling it, there is no reason to keep chucking, i am sorry i dont buy that as an excuse to keep shooting..

Find a different way to effect the game, you feel sick? ok use your energy on defense and rebound and the other players will pick up the slack, which they did..

Cam took 5 shots last night, did he make an impact? IQ scored 6 points did he make an impact?

Its not jist about scoring and Rj has not realized that yet, its why he is horribly ineffecient

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we're going to hyper analyze and put a doomsday clock on RJB's career now? Just fucking take it one month and season at a time. He's a hard working glue guy who plays both ends. He's not "there" yet, maybe he never gets "there" but he's a solid two player. The NBA is filled with two way 20 PPG players that make 100 million. Just fucking calm down and stop taking this guy's temp (literally and figuratively) --it's not the end of the world if RJB stays exactly like this. And if he explodes in 1-2 years, and YES this can happen, even better. Every fucking thread every game...same lamenting same worry same shit. Fucking relax. Same with NYG threads.

I am sorry but that is ridiculous, so we arent supposed to criticize a player in year 4 who continues to do the same shit he did his rookie year?

Sure he can score 20ppg but he is horribly ineffecient, you cant win with a player like that, its the same shit we say about Julius..

In comment 15910896 nygiants16 said:

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In comment 15910872 Jan in DC said: Quote: In comment 15910776 nygiants16 said: Quote: In comment 15910763 Jan in DC said: Quote: "being sick is not an excuse for how he played last night and i am jist going to leave it at that.." Its not an excuse, i didnt say he sucks, i didnt say he has sucked all year, i didnt say trade him (it was a joke).. But being sick and being sluggish is one thing, playing selfish, forcing shots is another and it ia not something new or because he was sick.. Not trying to be combative, but to me, that's a negative take. Like, it is an excuse that he's sick. If he's on the floor, he's going to play like he's going to play. He usually takes those shots, if he feels good maybe he makes them. I mean Thibs surely knew that my dude was sick. Randle apparently was sick too. But if you guy who just doesn't have it, play someone else. I think you have to be mindful of all that. But if you are not feeling it, there is no reason to keep chucking, i am sorry i dont buy that as an excuse to keep shooting.. Find a different way to effect the game, you feel sick? ok use your energy on defense and rebound and the other players will pick up the slack, which they did.. Cam took 5 shots last night, did he make an impact? IQ scored 6 points did he make an impact? Its not jist about scoring and Rj has not realized that yet, its why he is horribly ineffecient

Is definitely an issue...no doubt,and Thibs may need help in coaching him out of it....

That's why people criticize him. That's why I snicker at anyone claiming that he still might blossom into a big star - if it were going to happen, we'd have seen some sort of progress by this point.

but at least you can understand a world where someone else would have a different point of view? Like, I'm on the floor, I'm going to be aggressive and get up shots.

Not everyone is going to have the MJ flu game. I'm sure the coaching staff was aware that he was sick. If they don't like the way you're playing, you should sit.

I really like djm's post. RJ's fine. I want him to be better, I want him to be more efficient, but he's fine as he is.

but if you are actually honest with yourself, watching Rj do you honestly see star or something that can catipult him to becoming a star?