Giants Have Toughest Remaining Schedule in the NFL

so no surprise there because our division has the best combine record in the NFL

Well, nothing in life worth having is easy.

I agree. This is a test for the coaches, players and most importantly Jones, Barkley & Dex.

They are looking at paydays and if all three show up big.....it will be a pleasant problem to have.

Looking forward to seeing what this team can do.

I have supreme confidence in Dabes. It ain't even about DJ/VV to me anymore. I am sure Daboll will put him, and the team, in a position to succeed. Sure, we may lose to the teams that are definitely better than us. But I'm sure we aren't going to beat ourselves and lose to teams we should be beating - the hallmark of the last few years. I expect a win against Detroit this Sunday, and to make the playoffs this season. Despite the toughest remaining schedule in the league.

with the NFC East will make for a competitive stretch run.

and almost all will be close. Hopefully they can pull an upset somewhere with PHI/DAL. WAS and IND look better now as well.

would be awesome.

...!

teams remaining on their schedule are .500 or lower. The two games with Philly really jumps it up.

I want this team battle tested heading into the playoffs

to being there for a playoff spot, and are more or less playing with house money at 7-2.
Given that most teams in the league are at .500 and 2-3 teams will win divisions barely at or over .500, it’s a good situation to be in.
Win the games you are supposed to : Detroit, reasonably a split with DC, probably Indy is 10-7 minimally.
It’ll be a good test whatever happens to find out how strong , or weak, the team really is.
Remember, we likely get that ‘B’ schedule of 1st or 2nd place in respective divisions next year at 10-7, plus playing the AFC-E next year.

the rubber finally meets the road for Jones. Do or bye.

In comment 15910754 JonC said:

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the rubber finally meets the road for Jones. Do or bye.

Throwing to who?

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In November and December. Here we go!

that play the Giants are going to have it pretty tough.

In comment 15910765 JonC said:

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Then I cant put that on Jones squarely. We are going to ride SB, Jones' legs, and the defense to determine our season. If we need to rely on those WRs, it just aint gonna happen. I believe Daboll and Kafka know this.

F ESPN darlings paper tigers Dallas and Shitbirds.

Can't learn as much playing the dregs of the NFL as you can from playing the best. It's a test of fire. Opportunity to learn. The '86 Giants learned from the '85 Bears the intensity needed to win it all. The '07 Giants learned from Patriots that they were good enough to beat the best in week 17, even if it came with a loss.

This team will have a chance over the next 8 weeks to play the top three teams in the conference (by current record) four times. None of those are elimination games. Good time to learn your lessons.

For the NFL we are in the season, week 11. For the Giants, this is the playoffs pre-season, week 1.

At least I hope it works out this way.

also have US on their schedule adding to their higher % opponents.

I don't worry about that stuff much as right now to make the playoffs we probably need to win 3 maybe 4 games. I don't care who they come against, just that we get those baseline wins.

From there it would be nice to pad those numbers and get to 5 or maybe 6 wins and now we are really talking.

Gun to your head. Jones, Hurts or Prescott.

See what we're made of for sure which will be cool. Regardless of how it turns out, I'm pretty sure we'll end up with a record that's better than where most people thought we'd be.

So far this season has been really enjoyable which is a nice change of pace.

Don't kill me, but I think I'd still go with 1) Hurts 2) Daquiri 3) DJ/VV. BUT, Dabes > Siriani >> McCarthy!

... there's a good chance the Eagles may already be locked into whatever seed they're going to get. That could change the outlook for Week 18 dramatically. On paper, facing a ~13-3 team on their home field is a daunting task. It's not quite as brutal if the QB is Gardner Minshew or Ian Book, and he's throwing to Britain Covey, Jack Stoll, and Zach Pascal, and handing off to Trey Sermon.

At the other extreme, that game could be for the NFC East title and two home playoff games, or even for the #1 seed. In that (admittedly unlikely) scenario, the Eagles will have as much to fear from the Giants as vice-versa.

Minnesota is a tougher one to talk down. The Vikings might clinch the NFC North before Christmas Eve, but it's hard to imagine them having nothing to play for in Week 16. If the division is in hand, they will probably be in the running for the #1 seed and the solitary bye.

Was(5-5)- @Hou, Atl, @NYG, BYE, NYG, @SF, Clev, Dal

Phil(8-1)-@Ind, GB, Ten, @NYG, @Chi, @Dal, NO, NYG (3 straight road games)

Dal(6-3)-@Min, NYG, Ind, Hou, @Jax, Phil, @Ten, @Was (3 straight home games)

NYG(7-2)- Det, @Dal, Was, Phil, @Was, @Min, Ind, @Phil (on paper ours appears to be the toughest of the NFC East schedules)

Minn (8-1)- Dal, NE, NYJ, @Det, Ind, NYG, @GB, @Chi (Minny's schedule is mot easy at all)

GB (4-6)- Ten, @Phil, @Chi, BYE, LAR, @Mia, Min, Det (GB is in big trouble if they lose tonight their schedule is such that it would be very difficult to overcome).

SF (5-4)- @AZ, NO, Mia, TB, @Sea, Was, @LV, AZ (SF could get 5 or maybe 6 wins here. They could be a threat for a WC should we stumble down the stretch but absolutely threaten Was, Dal (at the moment) and GB.

Sea (6-4)- Bye, LV, @LAR, Car, SF, @KC, NYJ, LAR (Seattle has an interesting road and owns the head to head with us. LV, CAR and possibly LAR twice could be wins with then KC, SF and NYJ being tough physical games for them.

AZ and LAR will need a lot of help and both face a division opponent twice in the last half of the season (LAR gets Sea twice and AZ gets SF twice).

TB (5-5)- BYE, @Clev, No, @SF, Cin, @AZ, Car, @ Atl (I can see the Bucs winning 5 maybe 6 games and becoming very dangerous for the playoffs).

ATL (4-6)- Chi, @Was, Pit, @No, @Bal, AZ, TB (Atlanta could surprise here if they pull off wins at home with Chi, Pit and AZ and then steal two away games (NO and Was).

Car and NO would need a lot of help and only real threat is to win their division.

The NFC East plays each other, thats all this means.

They Giants schedule was going to be tough the rest of the way. They have mostly NFC East games and division games are always tough regardless of the record.

In comment 15910804 Dan in the Springs said:

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Can't learn as much playing the dregs of the NFL as you can from playing the best. It's a test of fire. Opportunity to learn. The '86 Giants learned from the '85 Bears the intensity needed to win it all. The '07 Giants learned from Patriots that they were good enough to beat the best in week 17, even if it came with a loss. This team will have a chance over the next 8 weeks to play the top three teams in the conference (by current record) four times. None of those are elimination games. Good time to learn your lessons. For the NFL we are in the season, week 11. For the Giants, this is the playoffs pre-season, week 1. At least I hope it works out this way.

To play the top 3 teams in the Conference by current record one of the games would have to be an intrasquad scrimmage. Giants are 3rd, behind Philly and Minn., ahead of Dallas

In comment 15910804 Dan in the Springs said:

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Can't learn as much playing the dregs of the NFL as you can from playing the best. It's a test of fire. Opportunity to learn. The '86 Giants learned from the '85 Bears the intensity needed to win it all. The '07 Giants learned from Patriots that they were good enough to beat the best in week 17, even if it came with a loss. This team will have a chance over the next 8 weeks to play the top three teams in the conference (by current record) four times. None of those are elimination games. Good time to learn your lessons. For the NFL we are in the season, week 11. For the Giants, this is the playoffs pre-season, week 1. At least I hope it works out this way.

And the first half schedule included 4 games against teams currently 6-3 or 6-4, of which the Giants won 2 and lost 2.

And yet they lost

There are no guarantees in the NFL

better competition! I believe the Giants can win at least 3 of those games and possibly 4. What a come back year!

In comment 15910811 Spiciest Memelord said:

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Gun to your head. Jones, Hurts or Prescott.

The others have better OL, better receivers or both. But I’ll stick with our kid. He could be scary good next year with a couple of stud WR’s like the other teams have.

A win this week going to 8-2 would be HUGE.

I think SF wins the West and Sea will be a WC.

Really is important. Very excited about it.

Defense kinda failed us that game, but they have massive issues offensively right now and our defense is getting better every week it seems.

Offensively, shocked we couldn't run all over them in game 1. Giants will run for 250 on them, just watch.

Gotta take care of business this week though in classic example of a trap game. Spunky bad team, sandwiched in on short week divisional rival, coming off a win where we controlled it from start to finish essentially.

I think he beats the Cowboys on Thanksgiving, sweeps the Eagles and take this team to a first round bye and a playoff off win. The stats are not going to be great. Extrapolate the first half over the second half. I expect close games, with some really big games coming from Barkley in the weather.

We will be paying for something like 13-4 and a playoff win.

Make your peace with it.

Will be for home field and the division title. Barkley goes for 200 plus in the snow. That's dream I had. :)

In comment 15910728 LS said:

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teams remaining on their schedule are .500 or lower. The two games with Philly really jumps it up.

I agree...only 4 remaining games are "good" teams. The Giants just make every game close with their style of play. The Giants couldn't have asked for an easier schedule overall, especially considering that 2 of the best teams in the NFL are in their division.

In comment 15910907 Mike in Boston said:

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To play the top 3 teams in the Conference by current record one of the games would have to be an intrasquad scrimmage. Giants are 3rd, behind Philly and Minn., ahead of Dallas

Yes, what I meant to say was the other top teams in the conference, and who might be a tough out in the playoffs.

Playoff teams (as of right now):

NFCE - Philly
NFCS - TB
NFCN - Minny
NFCW - Sea
WC1 - NYG
WC2 - Dal
WC3 - SF

Washington is the only team @ .500 who is not in, and that makes them 1/2 game behind SF. Who knows how that plays out, but one could envision a scenario where they end up WC3.

Crazy as it sounds, the Giants then would have the possibility of playing 6 of their last 8 games against possible NFC playoff opponents, and enter the playoffs with regular season experience against 5 of the 6 in the playoffs.

2 vs. #1
1 vs. #2
1 vs. #6
2 vs. #7

It would be very instructive for this young team to go up against these contenders during the season and learn NOW what it might take to beat them after the season ends. I think it's how good becomes better, and better becomes best.

In comment 15910754 JonC said:

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the rubber finally meets the road for Jones. Do or bye.

Lol, Ok

The South & Central will-in all likelihood-have just the division winner making the postseason. The West should have 2 with SF & Seattle. That leaves the East sending 3 teams to The Dance.

In comment 15910757 GNewGiants said:

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In comment 15910754 JonC said: Quote: the rubber finally meets the road for Jones. Do or bye. Throwing to who?

Got the excuses ready I see?

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the rubber finally meets the road for Jones. Do or bye.

Your comment makes no sense.

There's much more Jones needs to do in order for the Giants to step up to contender, and it's stuff he's not really shown in the NFL. I'm not prepared to build around him.

7-2 record is terrific, but it's not the whole story as much as the "we've found our QB" wants to believe it.

In comment 15911549 LakeGeorgeGiant said:

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In comment 15910757 GNewGiants said: Quote: In comment 15910754 JonC said: Quote: the rubber finally meets the road for Jones. Do or bye. Throwing to who? Got the excuses ready I see?

Are you openly saying the Giants have good enough WRs for Jones to carry us to big time victories with his arm?

This is a litmus test you usually fail as a poster. So I will understand you will ignore the question and pawn this off with no substance because that is your MO.

NYG have been at their very best when the NFC East is at its best.

Bring it on. Not to mention the early easier schedule afforded us some success even if we didn't play our best. We needed that start.

were against Balt and Tenn--two good teams.

In comment 15911454 joeinpa said:

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In comment 15910754 JonC said: Quote: the rubber finally meets the road for Jones. Do or bye. Lol, Ok

I know...guy has been doing it all year. Now it's do or die? It was do or die from week 1 and he's been doing.

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There's much more Jones needs to do in order for the Giants to step up to contender, and it's stuff he's not really shown in the NFL. I'm not prepared to build around him. 7-2 record is terrific, but it's not the whole story as much as the "we've found our QB" wants to believe it.

Bottom line is Jones is doing more than you and many here are crediting him for. Plain and simple. Maybe we didn't "find our QB" but he's a legit PRO QB and will be starting NEXT season, somewhere, and it's probably right here. Bank on it.

Again, it was do or die week 1. And He's been fine. I am blown away at the people here who can't envision this offense improving just by adding 2 WRs that are above replacement level. Jones isn't playing in a barren offense, not by any means. HE's got the great running game and he's well coached and voila! He's winning and scoring 21 PPG! That means he's doing his part.

You telling me this offense can't score 25+ PPG with 2 good WRS added to the mix, not to mention a year of development from everyone else, including DJ? You really believe that? This O won't improve with better WRs...

I don't get it.