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Wandale hamstring injury

armstead98 : 11/17/2022 12:48 pm
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Daboll said WR Wan’Dale Robinson won’t practice today after his hamstring tightened up yesterday. Could put Sunday in jeopardy.
...  
CromartiesKid21 : 11/17/2022 12:51 pm : link
5'8'' gadget player that can't stay on the field or produce consistently as a high 2nd rd pick. Taken before an alpha like George Pickens looking like a big miss by Schoen
Not a break  
BillT : 11/17/2022 12:51 pm : link
Not a single break.
RE: Not a break  
jhibb : 11/17/2022 12:56 pm : link
In comment 15911045 BillT said:
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Not a single break.


It's a good thing the Giants are a "lucky" team according to Barnwell on the ESPN site today. lol
If he hurts his other hamstring  
eric2425ny : 11/17/2022 12:57 pm : link
I’ll be more concerned. That would resemble a pattern with small gadget WR’s in NY.
This is unreal  
The_Taxman89_10 : 11/17/2022 12:58 pm : link
Our WR situation is a joke. At this point Daboll will be picking fans out of the stands on Sunday to play WR.
Apparently  
mattlawson : 11/17/2022 1:00 pm : link
The definition of insanity has been clarified, distilled, bottled, sold and drank all over MetLife stadium for the last decade
RE: ...  
The_Taxman89_10 : 11/17/2022 1:00 pm : link
In comment 15911044 CromartiesKid21 said:
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5'8'' gadget player that can't stay on the field or produce consistently as a high 2nd rd pick. Taken before an alpha like George Pickens looking like a big miss by Schoen


I like Robinson but always felt he was a major reach. He screams Sinorice Moss to me. Hope I'm wrong. But there were alot of more sure things at WR with size there when we picked Wandale. Not only Pickens, but I think Pierce was there as well, smh.
RE: RE: Not a break  
BSIMatt : 11/17/2022 1:01 pm : link
In comment 15911056 jhibb said:
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In comment 15911045 BillT said:


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Not a single break.



It's a good thing the Giants are a "lucky" team according to Barnwell on the ESPN site today. lol


Barnwell is a fucking moron. Sorry you had to read something he wrote.
Will be interesting to see if he can stay in the NFL long term  
Dave in Hoboken : 11/17/2022 1:08 pm : link
if he's constantly getting injured. We have the worst luck with these guys. So tiresome after awhile.
..  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/17/2022 1:09 pm : link
Ezeudu may be out too.
Sit him and have him ready  
bluewave : 11/17/2022 1:13 pm : link
for Dallas...
RE: ..  
BillT : 11/17/2022 1:16 pm : link
In comment 15911083 Eric from BBI said:
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Ezeudu may be out too.

Of course. Anything else.
We caught a lot of breaks this year such as  
robbieballs2003 : 11/17/2022 1:25 pm : link
Thibodeaux and Neal only missing a little tike instead of more severe injuries.
RE: We caught a lot of breaks this year such as  
BillT : 11/17/2022 1:29 pm : link
In comment 15911111 robbieballs2003 said:
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Thibodeaux and Neal only missing a little tike instead of more severe injuries.

It’s true we haven’t had as many season ending injuries but the amount of injuries that caused missed time is pretty significant. I think you can count the players who have played every game more easily than those who haven’t. And it’s only 9 games.
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Matt M. : 11/17/2022 1:35 pm : link
In comment 15911083 Eric from BBI said:
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Ezeudu may be out too.
What's wrong with him? This is really big for his development. He's been steadily improving and if he goes out as Bredeson and Lemieux and Gates are getting healthy, he may have trouble getting back in the lineup.
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islander1 : 11/17/2022 1:37 pm : link
In comment 15911044 CromartiesKid21 said:
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5'8'' gadget player that can't stay on the field or produce consistently as a high 2nd rd pick. Taken before an alpha like George Pickens looking like a big miss by Schoen


KT 2.0 right here, overdrafted, overvalued.
Fire Ronnie Barnes,  
Joe Beckwith : 11/17/2022 1:40 pm : link
medical staff and trainers.
Hamstring issue du jour.
I guess they have a hard one against Gatorade.
Somebody look at Wandale's search history  
fivehead : 11/17/2022 1:40 pm : link
and see if he has been looking for houses in KC.
If Wan’Dale can’t go  
M.S. : 11/17/2022 1:41 pm : link

K.C. said we could have Kadarius back for our first and second round picks.

Why does this organization  
Beef Wellington : 11/17/2022 1:42 pm : link
continue to be attracted to glitzy midgets that obviously will not be able to compete in the NFL with the big boys? What an effen waste.
...  
ryanmkeane : 11/17/2022 1:56 pm : link
don't have a great feeling about this game, just have to come away with a win no matter what
Good god  
Now Mike in MD : 11/17/2022 1:58 pm : link
people are overly dramatic. This is a hamstring. Injuries like that happen to WRs of all shapes and sizes and Robinson size has nothing to do with this type of injury.

Now if he fractured something or suffered some type of strain in a contact situation you may have a point. Then there could be a question whether he could hold up to the size of NFL players.

That's not what this. At all.

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broadbandz : 11/17/2022 2:03 pm : link
It was a bad pick. In the second round by our GM. Even if you like Robinson someone like him is not worth a 2nd. Hope our GM steps it up big time next yr.
RE: If Wan’Dale can’t go  
noro9 : 11/17/2022 2:03 pm : link
In comment 15911137 M.S. said:
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K.C. said we could have Kadarius back for our first and second round picks.

Hahaha
RE: Good god  
Dave in Hoboken : 11/17/2022 2:07 pm : link
In comment 15911161 Now Mike in MD said:
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people are overly dramatic. This is a hamstring. Injuries like that happen to WRs of all shapes and sizes and Robinson size has nothing to do with this type of injury.

Now if he fractured something or suffered some type of strain in a contact situation you may have a point. Then there could be a question whether he could hold up to the size of NFL players.

That's not what this. At all.


This is his second time being injured this season, and we're only halfway through the year. That's the issue. He's a 2nd round pick and expected to be available and produce. Being injured on 2 separate occasions 50% through the season is not acceptable. That's the issue. Has nothing to do with if he has a broke or fractured bone or not. It has to with if he's missing games or not. He missed a bunch earlier in the season. Can't afford to have him miss a bunch down the stretch now.
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Now Mike in MD : 11/17/2022 2:08 pm : link
In comment 15911168 broadbandz said:
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It was a bad pick. In the second round by our GM. Even if you like Robinson someone like him is not worth a 2nd. Hope our GM steps it up big time next yr.


How many times will fans jump to conclusions based on rookie performance and be wrong, before they stop? Many here thought Thomas as the wrong pick, or Amani Toomer, or Strahan, and the list goes on. Many times rookies struggle. To say anything definitive about a player based on his rookie year is just fooolish
Willing to give him a offseason and then  
Lines of Scrimmage : 11/17/2022 2:10 pm : link
next year. He was slowed in training camp with a injury then in week 1 and again now.

Could be just a bad coincidence or something more. TBD.

As a WR I think he will stand out more when they add more talent to the group.
RE: RE: Good god  
Now Mike in MD : 11/17/2022 2:10 pm : link
In comment 15911173 Dave in Hoboken said:
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people are overly dramatic. This is a hamstring. Injuries like that happen to WRs of all shapes and sizes and Robinson size has nothing to do with this type of injury.

Now if he fractured something or suffered some type of strain in a contact situation you may have a point. Then there could be a question whether he could hold up to the size of NFL players.

That's not what this. At all.




This is his second time being injured this season, and we're only halfway through the year. That's the issue. He's a 2nd round pick and expected to be available and produce. Being injured on 2 separate occasions 50% through the season is not acceptable. That's the issue. Has nothing to do with if he has a broke or fractured bone or not. It has to with if he's missing games or not. He missed a bunch earlier in the season. Can't afford to have him miss a bunch down the stretch now.


But the type of injury is the Point if the argument is that he's too small for the NFL. This wasn't a contact injury during a game. Ezeudu's been injured twice now. Is he too small for the NFL?
RE: RE: Good god  
JaxGiant : 11/17/2022 2:11 pm : link
In comment 15911173 Dave in Hoboken said:
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In comment 15911161 Now Mike in MD said:


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people are overly dramatic. This is a hamstring. Injuries like that happen to WRs of all shapes and sizes and Robinson size has nothing to do with this type of injury.

Now if he fractured something or suffered some type of strain in a contact situation you may have a point. Then there could be a question whether he could hold up to the size of NFL players.

That's not what this. At all.




This is his second time being injured this season, and we're only halfway through the year. That's the issue. He's a 2nd round pick and expected to be available and produce. Being injured on 2 separate occasions 50% through the season is not acceptable. That's the issue. Has nothing to do with if he has a broke or fractured bone or not. It has to with if he's missing games or not. He missed a bunch earlier in the season. Can't afford to have him miss a bunch down the stretch now.


Honestly, we should probably burn him at the stake. I'm tired of all these injuries to rookies! If they're not producing at an all-star level within 3 games of the start of the season, they should be released, period. NO MOAR EXCUSES. SCHOEN YOU IMGRATE!!
RE: This is unreal  
Photoguy : 11/17/2022 2:11 pm : link
In comment 15911060 The_Taxman89_10 said:
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Our WR situation is a joke. At this point Daboll will be picking fans out of the stands on Sunday to play WR.


Not me. I have hands of stone, and you can time me with a calendar.
RE: RE: RE: Good god  
Dave in Hoboken : 11/17/2022 2:12 pm : link
In comment 15911183 Now Mike in MD said:
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In comment 15911161 Now Mike in MD said:


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people are overly dramatic. This is a hamstring. Injuries like that happen to WRs of all shapes and sizes and Robinson size has nothing to do with this type of injury.

Now if he fractured something or suffered some type of strain in a contact situation you may have a point. Then there could be a question whether he could hold up to the size of NFL players.

That's not what this. At all.




This is his second time being injured this season, and we're only halfway through the year. That's the issue. He's a 2nd round pick and expected to be available and produce. Being injured on 2 separate occasions 50% through the season is not acceptable. That's the issue. Has nothing to do with if he has a broke or fractured bone or not. It has to with if he's missing games or not. He missed a bunch earlier in the season. Can't afford to have him miss a bunch down the stretch now.



But the type of injury is the Point if the argument is that he's too small for the NFL. This wasn't a contact injury during a game. Ezeudu's been injured twice now. Is he too small for the NFL?


Not for me it isn't. I don't care how big or small he is, we can't afford to have guys missing games with all of the big games we have coming up. This is Robinson's second time being injured in one season. Maybe he is too small, whatever it is, he has to stay healthy.
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Now Mike in MD : 11/17/2022 2:15 pm : link
In comment 15911189 Dave in Hoboken said:
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In comment 15911173 Dave in Hoboken said:


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In comment 15911161 Now Mike in MD said:


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people are overly dramatic. This is a hamstring. Injuries like that happen to WRs of all shapes and sizes and Robinson size has nothing to do with this type of injury.

Now if he fractured something or suffered some type of strain in a contact situation you may have a point. Then there could be a question whether he could hold up to the size of NFL players.

That's not what this. At all.




This is his second time being injured this season, and we're only halfway through the year. That's the issue. He's a 2nd round pick and expected to be available and produce. Being injured on 2 separate occasions 50% through the season is not acceptable. That's the issue. Has nothing to do with if he has a broke or fractured bone or not. It has to with if he's missing games or not. He missed a bunch earlier in the season. Can't afford to have him miss a bunch down the stretch now.



But the type of injury is the Point if the argument is that he's too small for the NFL. This wasn't a contact injury during a game. Ezeudu's been injured twice now. Is he too small for the NFL?



Not for me it isn't. I don't care how big or small he is, we can't afford to have guys missing games with all of the big games we have coming up. This is Robinson's second time being injured in one season. Maybe he is too small, whatever it is, he has to stay healthy.


I agree it's disappointing he's injured especially in light of our WR situation, but my point was to use this as some referendum as to whether he is too small for the NFL is worng considering the type of injury
the little Ferrari.....  
thrunthrublue : 11/17/2022 2:23 pm : link
goes back into the shop.....just like the exotic car, you spend as much time driving it as working on it......sometimes, you need to make availability a priority, even if the flashiness is not there.
He was the one pick this year  
arniefez : 11/17/2022 2:27 pm : link
that seemed to be a questionable choice. Small guy with average speed and an even smaller catch radius. Disappointing. Almost the entire draft class has been injured with 2 missing the entire season and the #1 LB #1 OT #2 WR #3 CB #3 OG and #4 TE missing multiple games. Really bad injury luck as usual for the Giants.
RE: Sit him and have him ready  
k2tampa : 11/17/2022 2:34 pm : link
In comment 15911090 bluewave said:
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for Dallas...


The Lions game is more winnable than at Dallas on Thanksgiving. Win the game you have the best odds at, worry about the others later.

Maybe Schoen can get a late 4th and a 7th.
RE: RE: RE: Good god  
k2tampa : 11/17/2022 2:39 pm : link
In comment 15911183 Now Mike in MD said:
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people are overly dramatic. This is a hamstring. Injuries like that happen to WRs of all shapes and sizes and Robinson size has nothing to do with this type of injury.

Now if he fractured something or suffered some type of strain in a contact situation you may have a point. Then there could be a question whether he could hold up to the size of NFL players.

That's not what this. At all.




This is his second time being injured this season, and we're only halfway through the year. That's the issue. He's a 2nd round pick and expected to be available and produce. Being injured on 2 separate occasions 50% through the season is not acceptable. That's the issue. Has nothing to do with if he has a broke or fractured bone or not. It has to with if he's missing games or not. He missed a bunch earlier in the season. Can't afford to have him miss a bunch down the stretch now.



But the type of injury is the Point if the argument is that he's too small for the NFL. This wasn't a contact injury during a game. Ezeudu's been injured twice now. Is he too small for the NFL?


Isn't it the third time? Didn't he get hurt in preseason and miss time too?
Ring Of Honor  
Trainmaster : 11/17/2022 2:51 pm : link
Ronnie Barnes and his staff to the rescue. 🤦‍♂️
Should try and trade him for a 3rd or 4th round pick  
pjcas18 : 11/17/2022 2:52 pm : link
he's never going to play here, it's clear.












- joking, don't come at me
RE: He was the one pick this year  
ColHowPepper : 11/17/2022 2:59 pm : link
In comment 15911212 arniefez said:
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that seemed to be a questionable choice. Small guy with average speed and an even smaller catch radius. Disappointing. Almost the entire draft class has been injured with 2 missing the entire season and the #1 LB #1 OT #2 WR #3 CB #3 OG and #4 TE missing multiple games. Really bad injury luck as usual for the Giants.

You leave out Beavers who looked a lock to start ILB
I’m sick of these smallish WRs  
5BowlsSoon : 11/17/2022 3:05 pm : link
Who can’t stay on the field. Please learn from this and start drafting guys who are solid specimens with no previous injuries and no chance for future injuries (lol). Jerry Rice clones would do. I’m not asking for much, am I?
He's looked good  
darren in pdx : 11/17/2022 3:06 pm : link
for a rookie. Every player gets hamstring regardless of size. His MCL injury any player would get hurt the way he got bent. They drafted him because he fit the type of offense they want to run, that matters a lot.

Hopefully he'll be good to play after a couple days of rest or back for Thanksgiving.
Because 6'2" non-gadget  
ArtVandelay : 11/17/2022 3:16 pm : link
receivers never pull hamstrings or get injured
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Beer Man : 11/17/2022 3:34 pm : link
In comment 15911044 CromartiesKid21 said:
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5'8'' gadget player that can't stay on the field or produce consistently as a high 2nd rd pick. Taken before an alpha like George Pickens looking like a big miss by Schoen
Agree, the guy is made of glass.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/17/2022 3:48 pm : link
Charlotte Carroll
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Wan'Dale Robinson says rest today was more precautionary and they'll see how he feels tomorrow and go from there. Tightened up yesterday
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/17/2022 3:48 pm : link
In comment 15911305 Beer Man said:
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5'8'' gadget player that can't stay on the field or produce consistently as a high 2nd rd pick. Taken before an alpha like George Pickens looking like a big miss by Schoen

Agree, the guy is made of glass.


After the Andrew Thomas fiasco on this board, I would think that some of you guys have learned your lesson, but apparently not.
Last I looked,  
Bill in UT : 11/17/2022 3:57 pm : link
Golladay was 6"3", and out injured. Again
Saying  
PaulN : 11/17/2022 4:00 pm : link
He was a bad pick at this point says everything you need to know about the stupidity of the poster. Andrew Thomas was a bad pick also by lots of people, some morons are saying g thus about Thibs also. Anyone that makes these statements now are just fucking idiots, and you treat them as such. Nothing more need be said. The Giants are 7-2. We are in the thick of a playoff race. Try and enjoy that, and ignore the numerous morons on this website.
RE: RE: Good god  
Optimus-NY : 11/17/2022 4:03 pm : link
In comment 15911173 Dave in Hoboken said:
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people are overly dramatic. This is a hamstring. Injuries like that happen to WRs of all shapes and sizes and Robinson size has nothing to do with this type of injury.

Now if he fractured something or suffered some type of strain in a contact situation you may have a point. Then there could be a question whether he could hold up to the size of NFL players.

That's not what this. At all.




This is his second time being injured this season, and we're only halfway through the year. That's the issue. He's a 2nd round pick and expected to be available and produce. Being injured on 2 separate occasions 50% through the season is not acceptable. That's the issue. Has nothing to do with if he has a broke or fractured bone or not. It has to with if he's missing games or not. He missed a bunch earlier in the season. Can't afford to have him miss a bunch down the stretch now.


+1
RE: He was the one pick this year  
Optimus-NY : 11/17/2022 4:07 pm : link
In comment 15911212 arniefez said:
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that seemed to be a questionable choice. Small guy with average speed and an even smaller catch radius. Disappointing. Almost the entire draft class has been injured with 2 missing the entire season and the #1 LB #1 OT #2 WR #3 CB #3 OG and #4 TE missing multiple games. Really bad injury luck as usual for the Giants.


Agreed. It told us something about toney right away as well. Robinson's size is always gonna be an issue, regardless of what anyone says. Picking a player of his profile in that round stood out in a negative fashion. 3rd round, ok. 2nd round, not ok.
Amazes me the lengths to which people get upset  
Ten Ton Hammer : 11/17/2022 4:07 pm : link
Over injuries in FOOTBALL.

Go watch baseball if you want your guys to be healthy all year. This is a full-contact violent sport where 250 pound guys fly into each other on purpose. There will forever be injuries
RE: RE: RE: RE: Good god  
mfjmfj : 11/17/2022 5:07 pm : link
In comment 15911189 Dave in Hoboken said:
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In comment 15911173 Dave in Hoboken said:


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people are overly dramatic. This is a hamstring. Injuries like that happen to WRs of all shapes and sizes and Robinson size has nothing to do with this type of injury.

Now if he fractured something or suffered some type of strain in a contact situation you may have a point. Then there could be a question whether he could hold up to the size of NFL players.

That's not what this. At all.




This is his second time being injured this season, and we're only halfway through the year. That's the issue. He's a 2nd round pick and expected to be available and produce. Being injured on 2 separate occasions 50% through the season is not acceptable. That's the issue. Has nothing to do with if he has a broke or fractured bone or not. It has to with if he's missing games or not. He missed a bunch earlier in the season. Can't afford to have him miss a bunch down the stretch now.



But the type of injury is the Point if the argument is that he's too small for the NFL. This wasn't a contact injury during a game. Ezeudu's been injured twice now. Is he too small for the NFL?



Not for me it isn't. I don't care how big or small he is, we can't afford to have guys missing games with all of the big games we have coming up. This is Robinson's second time being injured in one season. Maybe he is too small, whatever it is, he has to stay healthy.


At first I though Dave was being sarcastic. Players don't choose to be injured and it is rarely their fault (Mckinney and JPP aside). And they are largely unpredictable. Men are pushing their bodies to a nearly unreal extent. To rant as though they are somehow to blame is silly and insulting. Now if you have some evidence that he is not stretching or staying in shape please share. Otherwise show some sympathy and class. If Wan'dale is a competitor at all missing time bothers him much more than you.
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steve in ky : 11/17/2022 5:17 pm : link
In comment 15911044 CromartiesKid21 said:
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5'8'' gadget player that can't stay on the field or produce consistently as a high 2nd rd pick. Taken before an alpha like George Pickens looking like a big miss by Schoen


Pikens has been healthy and he has 370 yards to Robinson's 127 with limited playing time, so it's not like he is blowing away Robinson's numbers. You very well may be right but it's far too early to come to any conclusions.
The over-reaction in this thread is insane...  
DefenseWins : 11/17/2022 5:31 pm : link
not to mention, the categorization we have happening here. A slot receiver who is shorter in size is automatically called a "gadget" receiver? Why, because we ran a few WR sweeps with him? Any idea how many guys in the league run the same plays as Wandale?

Others have suggested that we should possibly be looking at our training staff. When it comes to something like a hamstring. I agree that we have seen too many of these. They are absolutely directly related to training. It seems to happen a lot to our rookies too.
RE: Saying  
DefenseWins : 11/17/2022 5:34 pm : link
In comment 15911330 PaulN said:
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He was a bad pick at this point says everything you need to know about the stupidity of the poster. Andrew Thomas was a bad pick also by lots of people, some morons are saying g thus about Thibs also. Anyone that makes these statements now are just fucking idiots, and you treat them as such. Nothing more need be said. The Giants are 7-2. We are in the thick of a playoff race. Try and enjoy that, and ignore the numerous morons on this website.


+1

Even Neil is missing games also so I guess he sucks now too.
RE: Why does this organization  
Brick72 : 11/17/2022 10:08 pm : link
In comment 15911142 Beef Wellington said:
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continue to be attracted to glitzy midgets that obviously will not be able to compete in the NFL with the big boys? What an effen waste.
?? What other "glitzy midgets" are on the team?
Barkley and Jones combine for 200 rushing yards...little James  
fredgbrown : 11/17/2022 10:28 pm : link
will make up for his 2 fumbles. Hodgkins will have a breakout game with 70 to 80 yards. Slayton will have a big game with 100 yards and 2 TDs. Giants win 28 - 17 in another ugly game.
RE: ...  
ZoneXDOA : 11/18/2022 12:01 am : link
In comment 15911044 CromartiesKid21 said:
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5'8'' gadget player that can't stay on the field or produce consistently as a high 2nd rd pick. Taken before an alpha like George Pickens looking like a big miss by Schoen
Could just as easily be Pickens with a hamstring injury.
RE: Why does this organization  
Red Right Hand : 11/18/2022 1:04 am : link
In comment 15911142 Beef Wellington said:
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continue to be attracted to glitzy midgets that obviously will not be able to compete in the NFL with the big boys? What an effen waste.
I blame Dave Megget
RE: RE: Saying  
Red Right Hand : 11/18/2022 1:10 am : link
In comment 15911413 DefenseWins said:
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He was a bad pick at this point says everything you need to know about the stupidity of the poster. Andrew Thomas was a bad pick also by lots of people, some morons are saying g thus about Thibs also. Anyone that makes these statements now are just fucking idiots, and you treat them as such. Nothing more need be said. The Giants are 7-2. We are in the thick of a playoff race. Try and enjoy that, and ignore the numerous morons on this website.



+1

Even Neil is missing games also so I guess he sucks now too.
True. But he sucked before he was injured, no?
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bwitz : 11/18/2022 1:14 am : link
In comment 15911044 CromartiesKid21 said:
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5'8'' gadget player that can't stay on the field or produce consistently as a high 2nd rd pick. Taken before an alpha like George Pickens looking like a big miss by Schoen


Alpha? LMFAO.
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