There's so much going on that I like and am frustrated about this team right now I thought it would be good to assess and weigh this:
Here goes my take:
Like/Love
- I am really loving Daboll and Wink, Kafka is harder to Like but I haven't placed him in the Dislike column
-- I am loving the defensive and Offensive schemes -- definitely feel like I'm watching a real football team again -- especially the defense
- I love Bobby Johnson and Andre Patterson - I like most of the rest of the coaches with a few exceptions
- I love Dexter Lawrence - I meant really love Dexter Lawrence
- and I love the tandem of Big Cat and Sexy Dexy - man that is Giants Football right there
- I like Julian Love, I like McKinney, I like KT, I am even warming up to Adore Jackson -- who I didn't really appreciate until recently
- I like the newly drafted and UFDa Guys - McFadden, Belton, Dane, Fox
- I love the fact that we've been on this winning roll -- 7/2 looks good and I am looking forward to the rest of the season
- I like the way DJ is making better decisions on the field
- I love Thomas and Neal and Gates, and I love the fact that we have a lot of beef for the line -- it does not seem futile anymore
- I like Bellinger
- I like the Talent scouting that's taking place -- they really seem to be getting the most out of the signings they are bringing on
- I like the way Barkley is running this year
Dislike/Haytes
- I Dislike Golladay and the left over stink of the last GM - especially what was done to the salary cap
- I dislike the WR corps -- I am having a real hard time with them -- but I do think the staff is getting the most out of them
- I don't like the make up of the RB core in total - I think Barkley is good - but I don't think there is much behind him
- Not crazy about the CB corps -- while I think we've been getting the most out of them -- I think there are a lot of Jags out there beside Jackson -
- I don't know why but I'm not crazy about Groh the WR coach, he rubs me the wrong way
Bonus Neutral Section
- I am neutral about Jones. I just am not sure he's the guy. He has shown some good tendencies, but he's also shown some bad ones - I am overall frustrate watch our offense - especially overall in the first half -- they've had a few games with "some" life -- but mostly they are not very productive in the beginning of games
- I am neutral about keeping Barkley. We are winning with him right now but I do think there is a solid argument to be made about not investing a lot of money in your RB. I will be interested to see how Shoen handles the personnel moves going forward. He's got some real hard decisions to make going forward -- but I do have confidence that we are going to be drafting well and getting the most value out of the new players they bring in
Overal Assessment at the 9 game mark
There a lot more to like than dislike about the Giants right now -- it's hard to ignore the dislikes - but the likes outweigh them
It's a tough run coming up. Even if the Giants get chewed up in the next 8 games I still think this will have been a successful season - I certainly hope they still show a few more surprises. In my view it will be a major coup if they do, and I will certainly enjoy that.
It's actually pretty ridiculous. We've hung this kid out to dry since day one. 1st with hideous O-lines. And then when we improve that unit, we trot out one of the worst WR corps I've ever seen.
There is literally no one worth a damn to throw to. Our best WR, Slayton, is a #4 WR. This kid is making chicken salad out of chicken shit. A blind man could see that.
I think it's more that Jones couldn't cook a mean pot roast, he never cheated on us. And now he's cooking good fried chicken. Might be good for you, but it tastes great.
If I'm nitpicking, I didn't love the Wan'Dale pick, and this has nothing to do with his injuries. I just liked other receivers more, notably Pickens, Pierce, and Skyy Moore. I probably would've taken Moore out of that group, and time will tell. Whose to say, have to wait three seasons to really reach a verdict.
I hope Wan'Dale can prove me wrong. He's already shown me more than I was expecting.
I too like Corbin a lot. Could be a meaningful player for the Giants down the line, when they potentially move on from Saquon after the 2023 (2024?) season ;)
It's actually pretty ridiculous. We've hung this kid out to dry since day one. 1st with hideous O-lines. And then when we improve that unit, we trot out one of the worst WR corps I've ever seen.
There is literally no one worth a damn to throw to. Our best WR, Slayton, is a #4 WR. This kid is making chicken salad out of chicken shit. A blind man could see that.
What are your likes and dislikes?
I think it's more that Jones couldn't cook a mean pot roast, he never cheated on us. And now he's cooking good fried chicken. Might be good for you, but it tastes great.
what are your likes and silikes?
I hope Wan'Dale can prove me wrong. He's already shown me more than I was expecting.
I guess you really weren't expecting much.
1. Bradberry Situation
I know these guys were exploring all of their options and trying their best, but everybody saw the Eagles scooping him up coming and just letting it happen kind of felt weak. Now that we're literally competing against them for the division, his presence could prove pivotal.
2. Wan'Dale Selection
I haven't given up on the kid or anything, but I am pretty down on him right now. I don't see a 2nd round talent there. Feels like they went for Toney insurance rather than an outside #1.
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I hope Wan'Dale can prove me wrong. He's already shown me more than I was expecting.
I guess you really weren't expecting much.
No not really.
It's actually pretty ridiculous. We've hung this kid out to dry since day one. 1st with hideous O-lines. And then when we improve that unit, we trot out one of the worst WR corps I've ever seen.
There is literally no one worth a damn to throw to. Our best WR, Slayton, is a #4 WR. This kid is making chicken salad out of chicken shit. A blind man could see that.
Yup. What the Giants did to Jones past two years is criminal. I'm not even saying Jones is THE guy. I could care less to get into that debate...but what is not questionable is the trash heap the Giants surrounded him with the past two years. Worst oline and worst skill group? He got the worst of both worlds...and of course you have the average NFL idiot fan hammering Jones for it. I absolutely loved the Peter Schrager clip someone posted earlier.
The situation a quarterback is born into in the NFL is just as critical as the potential they bring as a player..with regards to their ability to make it as a pro. Too many fans with this unrealistic ideal that "franchise" QBs just take a heaping pile of shit on their back and turn it into something...that's never happened, it doesn't happen..and fans expecting that to happen will routinely be disappointed.
Dislikes - #19.
What I dont understand - You have a dislike of the WR crew as a whole. but are neutral on Jones. Im no Jones super fan, but....really, I mean, im not sure what people are expecting out of him. For my money, he is doing a good job with what he has to work with. A DAMN good job! Think about it this way..how would his game be looking with a good TE and a TOP FLIGHT WR...just one...to go along with Slayton, Robinson and Barkley??? And I mean a Hopkins, Jefferson, etc....
Part of what irks me about this: every time I read a report on the Green Bay Packers, all im seeing in "well of course Rodgers is having a bad season, look at who he is throwing the ball to". As if LOSING DEVANTE ADAMS MIGHT HAVE AN EFFECT ON HIS QB!!!!! And many of those same people seem to have no problems criticizing Jones who is throwing to a similar group of receivers.
It's actually pretty ridiculous. We've hung this kid out to dry since day one. 1st with hideous O-lines. And then when we improve that unit, we trot out one of the worst WR corps I've ever seen.
There is literally no one worth a damn to throw to. Our best WR, Slayton, is a #4 WR. This kid is making chicken salad out of chicken shit. A blind man could see that.
If they re-sign him, I'm all in on him, as any fan should be . I just don't think he's worth the market value.
It's actually pretty ridiculous. We've hung this kid out to dry since day one. 1st with hideous O-lines. And then when we improve that unit, we trot out one of the worst WR corps I've ever seen.
There is literally no one worth a damn to throw to. Our best WR, Slayton, is a #4 WR. This kid is making chicken salad out of chicken shit. A blind man could see that.
Run an offense that isn't 29th in the NFL in passing? Be good enough that Barkley doesn't have to run against 8-9 on the box? Score more points? Throw for more yards and TDs? Be good enough that his HC and OC think he's good enough to stretch the field?
I think Breida has an injury history, as well as a fumbling history, so if he misses a game, Corbin will probably be in there as a backup. _________________________
What are your Likes and dislikes
as I wrote -- I can't put my finger on it -- but he irks me
He walked into an oil spill and has done an admirable job cleaning it up so far. So, I have no real dislikes yet. This upcoming offseason is going to be the most interesting one to gauge his long-term vision.
Daboll has exceeded my expectations. He comes across as very genuine, is comfortable in his own skin, and could break the hex of the Belichick coaching tree.
More importantly, he seems like a natural leader, relates to the players very well, motivates, nailed his staff, and knows how to manage a game.
Nothing real negative to offer.
I dislike the fact that we lost to Dallas! I dislike that we "had" to let Bradberry go
I dislike that I am still very leary of Daniel Jones' abilities. Can he win a shoot out? Can he sling the crap out of the ball? Will he ever make the game winning throw with everything on the line. Only time will tell. I Love his grit, his escapability, his go to work mentality and that no matter how much crap is shoveled on him he just keeps moving forward.
Run an offense that isn't 29th in the NFL in passing? Be good enough that Barkley doesn't have to run against 8-9 on the box? Score more points? Throw for more yards and TDs? Be good enough that his HC and OC think he's good enough to stretch the field?
How's he supposed to do that with the current group of skill positions?
It's actually pretty ridiculous. We've hung this kid out to dry since day one. 1st with hideous O-lines. And then when we improve that unit, we trot out one of the worst WR corps I've ever seen.
There is literally no one worth a damn to throw to. Our best WR, Slayton, is a #4 WR. This kid is making chicken salad out of chicken shit. A blind man could see that.
Gettleman did not use the power of computers to draft him so bbi circle jerk hates him.
Seems like Jones has been gaining confidence all year and dare I say that will allow things to click with him this season.
I dislike the loss to Dallas. That needs to be reversed.
Likes
-We are F’ing 7-2! WTAF!?
-Schoen not mortgaging the future, disciplined
- coaches are outstanding, getting the most of this team
- offense where things build, mesh, and work together
- game plans actually crafted for the opponent
- games well managed
- D gets after it! May give up some but we attack
- Wink is a cool, thoughtful guy & not a Neandertal
- seeing players develop and contribute
- seeing AT dominate
- seeing the team not beat themselves
- seeing guys step in and not huge drop off
- Seeing DBs hold up under an “on an island” scheme
- Dex and Big Cat dominate
- Thibs is a good rookie and great kid so far
- Bellinger?! He’s been terrific
- DJ has done what’s been asked, developing nicely
- Great to see 26 be 26 again, but tougher
- Neal has been ok, trending up after 1 rough game
- nice to see Slay contribute
- Gano is rock solid
- life back in the stadium
Dislikes - almost all circumstances
- injuries (sigh), especially Toney and Shep, but all of them
- bummed Toney couldn’t get it together here
- Feel bad for everyone on KG, he’s a decent guy and I think wants to contribute
- Scottish hammer needs to develop touch.
Seriously, if you’re not ecstatic about how this year has gone after the lost decade…I don’t know why you bother.
That last name sounds a little too disturbingly familiar. Is he a Mara mascot hire maybe?
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Set of WRs, why do you dislike Groh. Compare him to the last couple of WR coaches.
That last name sounds a little too disturbingly familiar. Is he a Mara mascot hire maybe?
his Dad was a Giants Coach and then went over to the Jets
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In comment 15911246 Ivan15 said:
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Set of WRs, why do you dislike Groh. Compare him to the last couple of WR coaches.
That last name sounds a little too disturbingly familiar. Is he a Mara mascot hire maybe?
his Dad was a Giants Coach and then went over to the Jets
I was half expecting him to be his dad with photos of Mara/red stapler guy from Office Space.