I remember seeing a video of the changeover process form Jets to Giants home games and they did invest a lot of money from the gift shops, LEDs green and blue, and also the end zones.
It was an interesting video.
I posted the link below. Link - ( New Window )
But that was pretty long ago. I think I recall that the wear and tear on the tray turf was too much and it didn't recover fast enough, and growing you know in the late fall and winter...
But if real grass trays could work, I imagine they could have trays of some other surface as well, for other sports and concerts and stuff... (monster truck LOL).
I feel like this is a problem a group of Billionaires could solve.
Can’t they do what the Cardinals did?
Bring out quadrants or sections of grass from under the stadium.
Lay it over the artificial turf for an extra cushion ,maybe.
Or have a shelves of quadrants/sections of artificial turf,
and shelves of quadrants/ sections of grass,
and for monster trucks just bring in the dirt.
was a perverse source of pride at the time but it's really kind of embarrassing.
The flip side is, there is crap-ton of money to be made for whomever can design a field surface that will hold up to the elements, heavy usage, and not be a source of injuries. You have to think someone out there has got the answer or is working on it.
I wonder if they considered hybrid grass? Its a combination of natural and synthetic reinforcing fibers. They use it in the premier league and world cup. Desso Grassmaster - ( New Window )
Can’t they do what the Cardinals did?
Bring out quadrants or sections of grass from under the stadium.
Lay it over the artificial turf for an extra cushion ,maybe.
Or have a shelves of quadrants/sections of artificial turf,
and shelves of quadrants/ sections of grass,
and for monster trucks just bring in the dirt.
The Cardinals whole playing field slides out of the stadium when not in use. Unless they're going to blow a hole in the side of Metlife that's not happening.
Means we can have the Giants logo instead of the NFL logo at mid field, but that makes too much sense
I don't think having turf is the reason we have the NFL logo at midfield. They swap all of the endzone turf out for each team they could do the same for the midfield logo or repaint it if they wanted to. The Rams and Chargers repaint the logo and they have a turf field at Sofi
The question is…
Daniel in Kentucky : 6:06 pm : link : reply
…do you want to make an insane amount of money with injured players
Or a crazy amount of money with fewer injured players
Allitel has separate fields for the Raiders and UNLV
play on it is the reasoning. It may be too much abuse for real grass and not have time to recover.
Arizona stadium has retractable fields that are pulled out to make sure they can be maintained. I don’t see why a stadium couldn’t add in two like that and swap them depending on the playing team. But our tuna can probably can’t be updated to accommodate
Is that it is artificial grass, which is completely different from artificial turf. The blades are longer and the reinforcement underneath is structured for better support.
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the springy resilience of a lawn in summer. Paint it green. You don't have to make it look like actual grass. Football is not golf, where grass is important.
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There are stadiums in the NFL in cold weather cities that make it work. It's not an act of science fiction.
Which of these NFL stadiums in cold weather have two teams playing on it, not to mention the rest of the concerts and such?
The Linc.
The Linc has two NFL teams playing on it? Since when??
Pittsburgh plays on grass and is home to the Steelers and Pitt football.
Linc is home to the Eagles and Temple football.
And college football not only has fewer games, but is finished before the worst weather of the year.
Neither of those stadiums are truly an apples-to-apples comparison with MetLife having two NFL teams. SoFi is the only legitimate comparison, IMO - they use turf.
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There are stadiums in the NFL in cold weather cities that make it work. It's not an act of science fiction.
Which of these NFL stadiums in cold weather have two teams playing on it, not to mention the rest of the concerts and such?
The Linc.
The Linc has two NFL teams playing on it? Since when??
Pittsburgh plays on grass and is home to the Steelers and Pitt football.
Linc is home to the Eagles and Temple football.
And college football not only has fewer games, but is finished before the worst weather of the year.
Neither of those stadiums are truly an apples-to-apples comparison with MetLife having two NFL teams. SoFi is the only legitimate comparison, IMO - they use turf.
Why not? Temple plays about the same number of home games at Linc as an NFL team.
The idea of a roll out field, similar to Arizona is nice, but
not realistic. Arizona built the stadium with that in mind. We can't roll out a whole field. We would have to have some tray system. I'm not sure how far that technology has come since 2000, but any natural grass is better than what they have.
How much better is the new surface going to be?
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: The Giants are worth billions of dollars
There are stadiums in the NFL in cold weather cities that make it work. It's not an act of science fiction.
Which of these NFL stadiums in cold weather have two teams playing on it, not to mention the rest of the concerts and such?
The Linc.
The Linc has two NFL teams playing on it? Since when??
Pittsburgh plays on grass and is home to the Steelers and Pitt football.
Linc is home to the Eagles and Temple football.
And college football not only has fewer games, but is finished before the worst weather of the year.
Neither of those stadiums are truly an apples-to-apples comparison with MetLife having two NFL teams. SoFi is the only legitimate comparison, IMO - they use turf.
I think we're overstating the weather to begin with. It's not snowing every week once the calendar turns. I can't remember the last time time the Giants played a home game in big snow or a hailstorm or even serious rain.
Means we can have the Giants logo instead of the NFL logo at mid field, but that makes too much sense
I don't think having turf is the reason we have the NFL logo at midfield. They swap all of the endzone turf out for each team they could do the same for the midfield logo or repaint it if they wanted to. The Rams and Chargers repaint the logo and they have a turf field at Sofi
I have a nostalgic fondness for the red Jersey/Meadowlands logo at the 50. Bring that back!
Idiots.
Yeah, at a certain point in the season they would be playing on dirt
I remember seeing a video of the changeover process form Jets to Giants home games and they did invest a lot of money from the gift shops, LEDs green and blue, and also the end zones.
It was an interesting video.
I posted the link below.
Link - ( New Window )
Ugly, no Giants themed colors and likely can’t have grass due to two NFL teams.
How many years was the field grass at Giants Stadium?
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Yeah, at a certain point in the season they would be playing on dirt
You mean like 2000? Yeah, that sucked.
Or a crazy amount of money with fewer injured players
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The Chargers and Rams figured out a way to put their logos at midfield on turf…
Idiots.
This. JFC. Billionaires pinching pennies is ridiculous. Especially when the ENTIRE LEAGUE hates playing on your field.
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Yeah, at a certain point in the season they would be playing on dirt
You mean like 2000? Yeah, that sucked.
Too bad they prioritize the concerts & other non-football gate $$.
If memory serves, the grass was planted in trays and any worn spots could be easily replaced.
But if real grass trays could work, I imagine they could have trays of some other surface as well, for other sports and concerts and stuff... (monster truck LOL).
I feel like this is a problem a group of Billionaires could solve.
There are stadiums in the NFL in cold weather cities that make it work. It's not an act of science fiction.
Can’t they do what the Cardinals did?
Bring out quadrants or sections of grass from under the stadium.
Lay it over the artificial turf for an extra cushion ,maybe.
Or have a shelves of quadrants/sections of artificial turf,
and shelves of quadrants/ sections of grass,
and for monster trucks just bring in the dirt.
There are stadiums in the NFL in cold weather cities that make it work. It's not an act of science fiction.
Which of these NFL stadiums in cold weather have two teams playing on it, not to mention the rest of the concerts and such?
The flip side is, there is crap-ton of money to be made for whomever can design a field surface that will hold up to the elements, heavy usage, and not be a source of injuries. You have to think someone out there has got the answer or is working on it.
Desso Grassmaster - ( New Window )
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Can’t they do what the Cardinals did?
Bring out quadrants or sections of grass from under the stadium.
Lay it over the artificial turf for an extra cushion ,maybe.
Or have a shelves of quadrants/sections of artificial turf,
and shelves of quadrants/ sections of grass,
and for monster trucks just bring in the dirt.
The Cardinals whole playing field slides out of the stadium when not in use. Unless they're going to blow a hole in the side of Metlife that's not happening.
Ugly, no Giants themed colors and likely can’t have grass due to two NFL teams.
How many years was the field grass at Giants Stadium?
Giants stadium had grass for 3 seasons
I don't think having turf is the reason we have the NFL logo at midfield. They swap all of the endzone turf out for each team they could do the same for the midfield logo or repaint it if they wanted to. The Rams and Chargers repaint the logo and they have a turf field at Sofi
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They can afford groundskeeping issues.
There are stadiums in the NFL in cold weather cities that make it work. It's not an act of science fiction.
Which of these NFL stadiums in cold weather have two teams playing on it, not to mention the rest of the concerts and such?
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They can afford groundskeeping issues.
There are stadiums in the NFL in cold weather cities that make it work. It's not an act of science fiction.
Which of these NFL stadiums in cold weather have two teams playing on it, not to mention the rest of the concerts and such?
The Linc.
The Linc has two NFL teams playing on it? Since when??
Daniel in Kentucky : 6:06 pm : link : reply
…do you want to make an insane amount of money with injured players
Or a crazy amount of money with fewer injured players
Arizona stadium has retractable fields that are pulled out to make sure they can be maintained. I don’t see why a stadium couldn’t add in two like that and swap them depending on the playing team. But our tuna can probably can’t be updated to accommodate
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They can afford groundskeeping issues.
There are stadiums in the NFL in cold weather cities that make it work. It's not an act of science fiction.
Which of these NFL stadiums in cold weather have two teams playing on it, not to mention the rest of the concerts and such?
The Linc.
The Linc has two NFL teams playing on it? Since when??
Pittsburgh plays on grass and is home to the Steelers and Pitt football.
Linc is home to the Eagles and Temple football.
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They can afford groundskeeping issues.
There are stadiums in the NFL in cold weather cities that make it work. It's not an act of science fiction.
Which of these NFL stadiums in cold weather have two teams playing on it, not to mention the rest of the concerts and such?
The Linc.
The Linc has two NFL teams playing on it? Since when??
Pittsburgh plays on grass and is home to the Steelers and Pitt football.
Linc is home to the Eagles and Temple football.
Pittsburgh is notorious for being almost unplayable at times. Kickers despise kicking there because the surface is a mess
If memory serves, the grass was planted in trays and any worn spots could be easily replaced.
That system was a disaster. Huge chunks of the turf would be dislodged during games. It was an abject failure.
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They can afford groundskeeping issues.
There are stadiums in the NFL in cold weather cities that make it work. It's not an act of science fiction.
Which of these NFL stadiums in cold weather have two teams playing on it, not to mention the rest of the concerts and such?
The Linc.
The Linc has two NFL teams playing on it? Since when??
Pittsburgh plays on grass and is home to the Steelers and Pitt football.
Linc is home to the Eagles and Temple football.
And college football not only has fewer games, but is finished before the worst weather of the year.
Neither of those stadiums are truly an apples-to-apples comparison with MetLife having two NFL teams. SoFi is the only legitimate comparison, IMO - they use turf.
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They can afford groundskeeping issues.
There are stadiums in the NFL in cold weather cities that make it work. It's not an act of science fiction.
Which of these NFL stadiums in cold weather have two teams playing on it, not to mention the rest of the concerts and such?
The Linc.
The Linc has two NFL teams playing on it? Since when??
Pittsburgh plays on grass and is home to the Steelers and Pitt football.
Linc is home to the Eagles and Temple football.
And college football not only has fewer games, but is finished before the worst weather of the year.
Neither of those stadiums are truly an apples-to-apples comparison with MetLife having two NFL teams. SoFi is the only legitimate comparison, IMO - they use turf.
How much better is the new surface going to be?
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They can afford groundskeeping issues.
There are stadiums in the NFL in cold weather cities that make it work. It's not an act of science fiction.
Which of these NFL stadiums in cold weather have two teams playing on it, not to mention the rest of the concerts and such?
The Linc.
The Linc has two NFL teams playing on it? Since when??
Pittsburgh plays on grass and is home to the Steelers and Pitt football.
Linc is home to the Eagles and Temple football.
And college football not only has fewer games, but is finished before the worst weather of the year.
Neither of those stadiums are truly an apples-to-apples comparison with MetLife having two NFL teams. SoFi is the only legitimate comparison, IMO - they use turf.
I think we're overstating the weather to begin with. It's not snowing every week once the calendar turns. I can't remember the last time time the Giants played a home game in big snow or a hailstorm or even serious rain.
It happens once in a blue moon.
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Means we can have the Giants logo instead of the NFL logo at mid field, but that makes too much sense
I don't think having turf is the reason we have the NFL logo at midfield. They swap all of the endzone turf out for each team they could do the same for the midfield logo or repaint it if they wanted to. The Rams and Chargers repaint the logo and they have a turf field at Sofi
I have a nostalgic fondness for the red Jersey/Meadowlands logo at the 50. Bring that back!