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jvm52106 : 11/17/2022 8:24 pm
Titans move down the field and score on the first drive. Tannehill looking good so far and Henry running strong early.

Pulling for the Titans here.
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 11/17/2022 8:27 pm : link
You'd be loco to pull for GB.
CJ Board sighting  
Tuckrule : 11/17/2022 8:30 pm : link
I was in the minority but he was a solid depth guy and reliable returner
If GB loses tonight  
jvm52106 : 11/17/2022 8:33 pm : link
It will make Dallas's loss to them seem even worse.

A lot of quietly big games this weekend..
Packers second round WR  
GNewGiants : 11/17/2022 8:45 pm : link
Is a weeeeeeeee bit better than ours
Wow Rogers  
joeinpa : 11/17/2022 8:45 pm : link
What a smart play
Tannehill  
Ron Johnson : 11/17/2022 8:45 pm : link
Looks good until he inevitably looks really bad
Huh, so close but  
jvm52106 : 11/17/2022 8:56 pm : link
Whatever.. Let's go Henry..
RE: Packers second round WR  
John In CO : 11/17/2022 8:58 pm : link
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Is a weeeeeeeee bit better than ours


Yeah he is blowing Robinson off the field. Before tonights game:

Watson: 7 Games 14 catches 195 yards, 3tds
Robinson : 5 games 14 catches 125 yards 1 td
What a drive by the Titans  
larryflower37 : 11/17/2022 9:10 pm : link
Horrible way to end it, now get a 3 and out
Titans fourth down was perfect opportunity to do something other  
shyster : 11/17/2022 9:18 pm : link
than exactly what the defense expected.

If you don't give it to Henry and fail, you get criticized. But the presumed safe play isn't safe, as demonstrated.
Burks is a load  
Producer : 11/17/2022 9:29 pm : link
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That was a neat play for the TD  
RCPhoenix : 11/17/2022 10:08 pm : link
I’d love to see the Giants use that with Barkley
Watson is definitely coming  
jvm52106 : 11/17/2022 10:22 pm : link
On but GB still seems like a team playing on borrowed time.
Seems like a guarentee  
OBJ_AllDay : 11/17/2022 10:37 pm : link
One team is coming out of the NFC west as a wildcard and 2 teams in the NFC east are. Gotta win the Washington games…
Tannehill being tannehill  
speedywheels : 11/17/2022 10:45 pm : link
Lol
Another  
Toth029 : 11/17/2022 10:50 pm : link
Former Judge tenure Giant for a brief time, Joshua Kalu.
INT by Douglas was one of the best defensive plays  
shyster : 11/17/2022 10:52 pm : link
I've seen this year: reading, recovery speed, whole deal.

But Pack couldn't capitalize.
Rodgers has missed  
GNewGiants : 11/17/2022 11:01 pm : link
Some easy throws this half. Badly I may add.
RE: Rodgers has missed  
sb from NYT Forum : 11/17/2022 11:06 pm : link
In comment 15911630 GNewGiants said:
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Some easy throws this half. Badly I may add.


He’s cooked or injured or both.
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Banks : 11/17/2022 11:08 pm : link
God, lazard sucks
Rodgers  
GruningsOnTheHill : 11/17/2022 11:13 pm : link
Looks terrible out there. I think it’s time to ride off into the sunset.
RE: Rodgers  
thefan : 11/17/2022 11:14 pm : link
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Looks terrible out there. I think it’s time to ride off into the sunset.


Amazing he only got one Super Bowl, but there are others out there that only have one or none and are just as good or better.
RE: RE: Rodgers  
OBJ_AllDay : 11/17/2022 11:17 pm : link
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Looks terrible out there. I think it’s time to ride off into the sunset.



Amazing he only got one Super Bowl, but there are others out there that only have one or none and are just as good or better.


Not too amazing. He’s one of many playoff chokers. He always lays down when it counts
Titans  
Toth029 : 11/17/2022 11:20 pm : link
Are still competitive with Tannehill.

With Willis they were being held back to being completely one dimensional.

That throw to Burks was excellent.
Packers are done  
jvm52106 : 11/17/2022 11:20 pm : link
But, maybe they can have one last gasp vs Philly.
RE: Packers are done  
OBJ_AllDay : 11/17/2022 11:23 pm : link
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But, maybe they can have one last gasp vs Philly.


They can still get to 10. It’s between the giants redskins and them imo
For the last wildcard… we own the tiebreaker with them.
RE: RE: RE: Rodgers  
speedywheels : 11/17/2022 11:37 pm : link
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Looks terrible out there. I think it’s time to ride off into the sunset.



Amazing he only got one Super Bowl, but there are others out there that only have one or none and are just as good or better.



Not too amazing. He’s one of many playoff chokers. He always lays down when it counts


LOL! You might want to take a look at his playoff stats before sounding like a moron?
Yeah not so much - ( New Window )
The pack are done  
Stu11 : 11/17/2022 11:39 pm : link
Schedule is way too tough for them to make a big run. They needed tonight desperately.
RE: The pack are done  
OBJ_AllDay : 11/17/2022 11:43 pm : link
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Schedule is way too tough for them to make a big run. They needed tonight desperately.


He’s been waxed in the playoffs by inferior teams his entire career fanboy. Great regular season qb. If you think a qb of his caliber has excelled in the playoffs idk what to tell you…

https://www.si.com/nfl/packers/.amp/news/heartbreak-meter-ranking-packers-playoff-losses-of-rodgers-era
Meant to quote speedy there  
OBJ_AllDay : 11/17/2022 11:44 pm : link
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RE: Meant to quote speedy there  
speedywheels : 11/17/2022 11:55 pm : link
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Sigh.

It’s not always about the QB.

I’m guessing you forgot about this game in 2009?
I’m not a fanboy - ( New Window )
RE: RE: RE: RE: Rodgers  
k2tampa : 11/18/2022 12:08 am : link
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Looks terrible out there. I think it’s time to ride off into the sunset.



Amazing he only got one Super Bowl, but there are others out there that only have one or none and are just as good or better.



Not too amazing. He’s one of many playoff chokers. He always lays down when it counts



LOL! You might want to take a look at his playoff stats before sounding like a moron? Yeah not so much - ( New Window )


Stats? In the only stat that matters, he's 12-10 overall in the playoffs and 7-9 since winning the Super Bowl in 2011. The Pack has been the top seed three times under Rodgers and they lost each year, obviously at home where they have the best homefield advantage in the NFL in January.

Jim Kelly had very good playoff stats, but no one would say he was successful in the playoffs.
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speedywheels : 11/18/2022 12:18 am : link
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Looks terrible out there. I think it’s time to ride off into the sunset.



Amazing he only got one Super Bowl, but there are others out there that only have one or none and are just as good or better.



Not too amazing. He’s one of many playoff chokers. He always lays down when it counts



LOL! You might want to take a look at his playoff stats before sounding like a moron? Yeah not so much - ( New Window )



Stats? In the only stat that matters, he's 12-10 overall in the playoffs and 7-9 since winning the Super Bowl in 2011. The Pack has been the top seed three times under Rodgers and they lost each year, obviously at home where they have the best homefield advantage in the NFL in January.

Jim Kelly had very good playoff stats, but no one would say he was successful in the playoffs.


He was very successful in the playoffs. The SB, not as much. But in case you hadn’t noticed, the SB losses weren’t all on him.

But hey, don’t let facts get in the way of your narrative.
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Toth029 : 11/18/2022 7:40 am : link
Are mostly skewed.

Eli's numbers in GB back in the NFC title game weren't anything amazing. But you etch the game? He was incredible.

Same for the 49ers game in 2011.

Rodgers in the NFC title games lately has not been good. Not consistent enough to the point where he's the season MVP and play in the playoff game falls short. Scores 10 points versus SF, goes down 28 to 10 versus TB, gets some empty scores to make the stat line look good.

Dak and Cousins have had tons of those types of games through the years. People go back to those and say "look at those numbers!" and ignore the context.
Toth  
Lines of Scrimmage : 11/18/2022 8:27 am : link
I have made some similar arguments about Rodgers being one of the great all time "regular" season QB's of all time. Some get very defensive when you knock him in the playoffs.

I don't think he is done but it gets really hard when you are paying a QB 50 million to always have the necessary pieces around him. Then he complains. Green Bay has done a great job overall putting very good talent around him for his career as they did for Favre.

Tennessee is really a well run organization in terms of consistency. I think that GM is probably the one guy that Belichick has really missed as the Pats drafting took a dive when he left.

The Packers with Rodgers starting have made the playoffs 11 times  
Ivan15 : 11/18/2022 8:34 am : link
And been eliminated 10 times, according to the January 2022 article. The Packers with Rodgers have made it to 1 Super Bowl, which they won.

Since getting to and winning the Super Bowl is the prize, I don’t consider being eliminated 10 times in 11 trips to the playoffs as an enviable record. Jim Kelly’s record of getting to multiple Super Bowls and losing them is a bigger accomplishment.
Todd Downing TItans OC  
bubba0825 : 11/18/2022 8:49 am : link
Got a DWI after the flight home this morning. Embarrassing
RE: Todd Downing TItans OC  
jvm52106 : 11/18/2022 9:04 am : link
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Got a DWI after the flight home this morning. Embarrassing


wow... And, after the issues with Britt Reid, the NFL will be cracking down on drinking on the flights etc..
RE: Toth  
Returning Video Tapes : 11/18/2022 9:04 am : link
In comment 15911761 Lines of Scrimmage said:
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I have made some similar arguments about Rodgers being one of the great all time "regular" season QB's of all time. Some get very defensive when you knock him in the playoffs.

I don't think he is done but it gets really hard when you are paying a QB 50 million to always have the necessary pieces around him. Then he complains. Green Bay has done a great job overall putting very good talent around him for his career as they did for Favre.

Tennessee is really a well run organization in terms of consistency. I think that GM is probably the one guy that Belichick has really missed as the Pats drafting took a dive when he left.


Rodgers (like Peyton) has absolutely dragged some mediocre teams waaaay above their head.

So come playoff time, when the intensity and comp ratchets up a notch, they look “bad” because the talent around them isn’t up to par.
RE: RE: Todd Downing TItans OC  
Returning Video Tapes : 11/18/2022 9:06 am : link
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Got a DWI after the flight home this morning. Embarrassing



wow... And, after the issues with Britt Reid, the NFL will be cracking down on drinking on the flights etc..


Lol ZERO chance this happens. I
RE: RE: RE: Todd Downing TItans OC  
jvm52106 : 11/18/2022 9:08 am : link
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Got a DWI after the flight home this morning. Embarrassing



wow... And, after the issues with Britt Reid, the NFL will be cracking down on drinking on the flights etc..



Lol ZERO chance this happens. I


That is an idiotic response. Reid was accussed of drinking at teh facility and the Chiefs deny allowing people to drink. You let folks drink on your chartered flight and then they drive afterwards it is akin tom owning a bar and serving alcohol to someone and then letting them drive drunk.. The NFL is not going to be looking too good here.
RE: RE: Todd Downing TItans OC  
BigBlueShock : 11/18/2022 9:10 am : link
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Got a DWI after the flight home this morning. Embarrassing



wow... And, after the issues with Britt Reid, the NFL will be cracking down on drinking on the flights etc..

Come on man. The dude is responsible for himself. What’s next, bars banning alcohol because some idiots will inevitably get DUIs? Are ALL flights going to ban alcohol because someone may drive home after drinking on the flight or just the NFL flights because their employees are not to be trusted?
RE: RE: Toth  
Lines of Scrimmage : 11/18/2022 9:12 am : link
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I have made some similar arguments about Rodgers being one of the great all time "regular" season QB's of all time. Some get very defensive when you knock him in the playoffs.

I don't think he is done but it gets really hard when you are paying a QB 50 million to always have the necessary pieces around him. Then he complains. Green Bay has done a great job overall putting very good talent around him for his career as they did for Favre.

Tennessee is really a well run organization in terms of consistency. I think that GM is probably the one guy that Belichick has really missed as the Pats drafting took a dive when he left.




Rodgers (like Peyton) has absolutely dragged some mediocre teams waaaay above their head.

So come playoff time, when the intensity and comp ratchets up a notch, they look “bad” because the talent around them isn’t up to par.



This makes a lot of sense lol.

RE: Todd Downing TItans OC  
BillKo : 11/18/2022 9:28 am : link
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Got a DWI after the flight home this morning. Embarrassing


Maybe he was drunk during the game for throwing with 2:03 left in the game and the game virtually over.......
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Rodgers  
k2tampa : 11/18/2022 9:39 am : link
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Looks terrible out there. I think it’s time to ride off into the sunset.



Amazing he only got one Super Bowl, but there are others out there that only have one or none and are just as good or better.



Not too amazing. He’s one of many playoff chokers. He always lays down when it counts



LOL! You might want to take a look at his playoff stats before sounding like a moron? Yeah not so much - ( New Window )



Stats? In the only stat that matters, he's 12-10 overall in the playoffs and 7-9 since winning the Super Bowl in 2011. The Pack has been the top seed three times under Rodgers and they lost each year, obviously at home where they have the best homefield advantage in the NFL in January.

Jim Kelly had very good playoff stats, but no one would say he was successful in the playoffs.



He was very successful in the playoffs. The SB, not as much. But in case you hadn’t noticed, the SB losses weren’t all on him.

But hey, don’t let facts get in the way of your narrative.


The only fact that matters is who won and who lost. The "fact" is Rodgers and the Pack have lost quite often in the playoffs when they have been the favorite.

Compare that to Manning and the Giants, who have been underdogs in most of their playoff victories.

Of course it's not just the QB. But it's also not just the QB when a team wins. And since 2015 his playoff completion percentage is under 60 percent. Take out the Jan. 2017 game against the overrated Giants and his stats since 2015 are the epitome of average QB play. Then look at the QBs he has lost to. It's not like Peyton Manning, who was going up against Brady almost every year.
RE: Tannehill  
BSIMatt : 11/18/2022 10:31 am : link
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Looks good until he inevitably looks really bad


Like every quarterback that has ever played football?

Tannehill is a good fucking quarterback.
RE: RE: Todd Downing TItans OC  
Toth029 : 11/18/2022 10:36 am : link
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Got a DWI after the flight home this morning. Embarrassing



Maybe he was drunk during the game for throwing with 2:03 left in the game and the game virtually over.......


Go for the jugular. I would love for Kafka to want his guys to play aggressive until the game is over. Plus it was a fantastic pass.
RE: RE: RE: Todd Downing TItans OC  
BillKo : 11/18/2022 10:50 am : link
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Maybe he was drunk during the game for throwing with 2:03 left in the game and the game virtually over.......



Go for the jugular. I would love for Kafka to want his guys to play aggressive until the game is over. Plus it was a fantastic pass.


It was a fantastic pass for sure.

But it could have been intercepted. Why give GB any chance?
RE: RE: RE: RE: Rodgers  
thefan : 11/18/2022 12:31 pm : link
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Looks terrible out there. I think it’s time to ride off into the sunset.



Amazing he only got one Super Bowl, but there are others out there that only have one or none and are just as good or better.



Not too amazing. He’s one of many playoff chokers. He always lays down when it counts



LOL! You might want to take a look at his playoff stats before sounding like a moron? Yeah not so much - ( New Window )


His playoff stats look good to me. In 21 games he has 45 TDs to 13 Ints and a QBR of 100. Does Dan Marino suck too with his zero SBs? What about Drew Breesand his one? The great Payton Manning has one more SB than Rodgers.

Who are you calling a moron?
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speedywheels : 11/18/2022 12:38 pm : link
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Looks terrible out there. I think it’s time to ride off into the sunset.



Amazing he only got one Super Bowl, but there are others out there that only have one or none and are just as good or better.



Not too amazing. He’s one of many playoff chokers. He always lays down when it counts



LOL! You might want to take a look at his playoff stats before sounding like a moron? Yeah not so much - ( New Window )



His playoff stats look good to me. In 21 games he has 45 TDs to 13 Ints and a QBR of 100. Does Dan Marino suck too with his zero SBs? What about Drew Breesand his one? The great Payton Manning has one more SB than Rodgers.

Who are you calling a moron?


OBJ all_day. He called Rodgers a "playoff choker" and that he always "lays down when it counts"; his stats would indicate otherwise.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Rodgers  
bw in dc : 11/18/2022 12:56 pm : link
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His playoff stats look good to me. In 21 games he has 45 TDs to 13 Ints and a QBR of 100. Does Dan Marino suck too with his zero SBs? What about Drew Breesand his one? The great Payton Manning has one more SB than Rodgers.



It's not QBR, it's passer rating. Nevertheless, you are correct that AR's playoff numbers are solid versus his regular season. Good TD/INT ratio, basically the same completion% (65%), similar Y/A and AY/A.

Further, in the playoffs you are obviously playing the best teams. So, to keep his production near his regular season #s, is a positive.

Peyton is a good comp. And keep in mind Peyton was essentially a passenger for his second SB with Denver. His arm was shot. Also interesting is when the Colts won the SB in 2006, Manning finished with 3 TDs and 7 INTs in that unexpected run. So, he wasn't that great. That was the year when the Colts inexplicably popped in the playoffs and the defense stopped the run after being a sieve the entire year.

RE: RE: Toth  
JCin332 : 11/18/2022 6:55 pm : link
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I have made some similar arguments about Rodgers being one of the great all time "regular" season QB's of all time. Some get very defensive when you knock him in the playoffs.

I don't think he is done but it gets really hard when you are paying a QB 50 million to always have the necessary pieces around him. Then he complains. Green Bay has done a great job overall putting very good talent around him for his career as they did for Favre.

Tennessee is really a well run organization in terms of consistency. I think that GM is probably the one guy that Belichick has really missed as the Pats drafting took a dive when he left.




Rodgers (like Peyton) has absolutely dragged some mediocre teams waaaay above their head.

So come playoff time, when the intensity and comp ratchets up a notch, they look “bad” because the talent around them isn’t up to par.


Another false narrative he has had great supporting casts over the course of his career...
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 11/18/2022 6:58 pm : link
Rodgers is an all time great, but it is amazing to me that-in all likelihood-he'll end up with one Lombardi the season GB was a 6 seed.
yeah, Rodgers and Green Bay are washed  
islander1 : 11/18/2022 7:33 pm : link
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RE: RE: RE: Toth  
speedywheels : 11/18/2022 7:49 pm : link
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I have made some similar arguments about Rodgers being one of the great all time "regular" season QB's of all time. Some get very defensive when you knock him in the playoffs.

I don't think he is done but it gets really hard when you are paying a QB 50 million to always have the necessary pieces around him. Then he complains. Green Bay has done a great job overall putting very good talent around him for his career as they did for Favre.

Tennessee is really a well run organization in terms of consistency. I think that GM is probably the one guy that Belichick has really missed as the Pats drafting took a dive when he left.




Rodgers (like Peyton) has absolutely dragged some mediocre teams waaaay above their head.

So come playoff time, when the intensity and comp ratchets up a notch, they look “bad” because the talent around them isn’t up to par.



Another false narrative he has had great supporting casts over the course of his career...


Not on the defensive side (ie - the 51-45 loss)

And of course, there was the NYG win in 2011 - the fumbles really fucked them, Rodgers played pretty well that day.
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 11/18/2022 7:51 pm : link
I don't know if Rodgers played all that well that divisional game vs. us. He missed a lot of throws. Then again, I was completely sauced, Haha.
I amend that, looking at his stats  
speedywheels : 11/18/2022 8:11 pm : link
He played OK, not pretty well. But as I said, the team fumbles fucked them. And of course, he would have had a TD if Osi hadn't sacked him. (and yes, I recognize that "almost" doesn't count for anything, the sack/fumble happened and the NYG ultimately blew them the fuck out, thankfully)
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