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AnnapolisMike : 11/18/2022 6:32 am
I love the World Cup as a casual fan. But the decision to have it in Qatar looks dumber and dumber everyday.

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I don't see soccer passing football in my lifetime  
UConn4523 : 11/18/2022 10:28 am : link
but its certainly possible it happens one day. The MLS is doing well and is very healthy. Their deal with Apple is going to be huge. They (and MMA/UFC for different reasons) seem to be ahead of the curve on various components of the "experience". That will go a long way into growth. And that's what will be needed to get more top athletes to stay in soccer vs. pursuing basketball/football, etc.

My daughter is on the U8 premier team and i'm so impressed with how much more access she has to better coaching and playing almost year round, than I did in the 90's. I really do think there's going to be a huge bump in interest over the next 10-20 years, its virtually inevitable with the strides made in the Youth leagues.
RE: RE: Check out the accommodations  
giantBCP : 11/18/2022 10:30 am : link
In comment 15911879 Optimus-NY said:
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They set up for fans. Pay thousands of dollars to stay in a shipping box in the middle of a field with no amenities in the boiling sun (once again in a metal hotel room).



FYI - There wont be any boiling sun now. The weather in the Gulf is superb at this time of year.


That’s funny, because we were told that they’d be scorching out there. It seems that there has been a lot of misinformation put out there.
If  
mitch300 : 11/18/2022 10:31 am : link
Having a beer is that important, maybe instead a f going to the game, they should go to an AA meeting.
RE: Retribution  
oghwga : 11/18/2022 10:39 am : link
In comment 15911877 giantBCP said:
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It might have something to do with InBev, the parent company of Budweiser being Belgian owned, and the Belgians being on the forefront of the woke movement against the Qatar World Cup, in regards to worker cruelty corruption, gay rights, etc.


Is it now "woke" to against worker cruelty, corruption, and gay rights?

Fuck me
RE: RE: Retribution  
AnnapolisMike : 11/18/2022 10:56 am : link
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It might have something to do with InBev, the parent company of Budweiser being Belgian owned, and the Belgians being on the forefront of the woke movement against the Qatar World Cup, in regards to worker cruelty corruption, gay rights, etc.



Is it now "woke" to against worker cruelty, corruption, and gay rights?

Fuck me
Where do I sign up for this "woke" movement.
RE: Of course it was  
Spiciest Memelord : 11/18/2022 10:59 am : link
In comment 15911692 section125 said:
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a stupid bribed filled decision. What fool would not understand that alcohol related products would be banned. Then again, about 90% of fights have just been eliminated...


I expect increased rioting as an outlet as thousands of sober people realize how boring soccer is.
A guy that works for me  
bradshaw44 : 11/18/2022 11:02 am : link
Just landed in Turkey on his way to Qatar for the WC. He just sent me a pic from the airport. I sent him this thread. He is not happy ha ha. He found out about it yesterday. Younger kid from Ecuador. He's pulling for the US though. He's a huge soccer fan so he's not destroyed about it, but he's definitely not happy.
RE: RVT  
Returning Video Tapes : 11/18/2022 11:10 am : link
In comment 15911846 UConn4523 said:
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there must be other reasons then - no beer sales make you that upset?

I may watch less than I did in other WC's because I have a kid and work and other engagements. But i absolutely cannot wait for this match on Monday, clearning my schedule for it.


No slavery and abuse of human rights makes me upset.

Now if I were actually going…yeh that would piss me off. But you gotta be kinda an idiot to not understand what you are getting fyourself into in that part of the world.
RE: RE: Retribution  
Vanzetti : 11/18/2022 11:11 am : link
In comment 15911902 oghwga said:
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It might have something to do with InBev, the parent company of Budweiser being Belgian owned, and the Belgians being on the forefront of the woke movement against the Qatar World Cup, in regards to worker cruelty corruption, gay rights, etc.



Is it now "woke" to against worker cruelty, corruption, and gay rights?

Fuck me


Woke is not a set of beliefs, it is the attempt to impose those beliefs on others and demand the firing or public silencing of anyone who espouses different beliefs. At least that is what reasonable and intelligent people who oppose the extremes of woke believe.

Of course, you can always find ignorant posts online and use them as straw men

Interestingly from an historical perspective, "woke" is much like the "great awakening" among puritans in the 18th century--both in its good and bad aspects.

For example, in the 18th century when Puritans experienced the "great awakening," they did not
"woke"  
AnnapolisMike : 11/18/2022 11:17 am : link
is nothing but a derogatory comment made to belittle others who have differing views.
reasonable and intelligent don't use the term "woke"  
oghwga : 11/18/2022 11:18 am : link
plenty of entitled college kids whining about shit they know nothing about but "woke" is a nonsense fear mongering statement like cultural elites or left wing academia which is right in line with right wing nut job or moral majority.

None of these terms help move any discussion forward.

Back to the beer!

What do you drink when it's 110 degrees outside?
RE: reasonable and intelligent don't use the term  
AnnapolisMike : 11/18/2022 11:19 am : link
In comment 15911976 oghwga said:
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plenty of entitled college kids whining about shit they know nothing about but "woke" is a nonsense fear mongering statement like cultural elites or left wing academia which is right in line with right wing nut job or moral majority.

None of these terms help move any discussion forward.

Back to the beer!

What do you drink when it's 110 degrees outside?
pilsner of some sort.
RE: RE: I don’t think I could care less  
Returning Video Tapes : 11/18/2022 11:21 am : link
In comment 15911803 UConn4523 said:
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About this blood money slave labor exhibition. Soccer CAN be cool, but not like this.



It’s fine to hate FIFA and all that went into the bidding process. But it isn’t an exhibition and is pretty much the most notable sporting event on earth outside of the Olympics. The players work incredibly hard to make it to this stage and should be supported, and not defined by the corruption they had nothing to do with.


Yeh sure, but it takes the fun out of life when you are watching a friggin game that 1000s died for and untold misery. It would be one thing if something was being done, but the UAE and Qatar attract some of the worst people in the world…. so nothing will be.
On the question of beer  
Vanzetti : 11/18/2022 11:25 am : link
Alcohol is haram (forbidden) by all three major schools of Islamic jurisprudence.

In a few places in Quran, it seems like alcohol is being warned against but not absolutely forbidden. However, in one place it is compared to sacrificing to other gods and is described as a product of Satan. Moreover, in the hadith of al-Bukhari, it is clearly forbidden. The hadith are sayings that can be traced directly to the Prophet and have a great deal of authority.

Often, alcohol is treated in Islamic countries the way pot was treated in California: it was illegal but everyone looked the other way if you were discreet and non-public in your usage. However, anyone doing business with a country where their product is technically illegal or haram should be aware that they have a high level of risk and incorporate that risk into their bid for the contract.
Qatar knew full well what the expectations  
AnnapolisMike : 11/18/2022 11:29 am : link
would be regarding alcohol sales. This last minute ban is nothing but a slap in the face to FIFA and it's business partners.

Don't bid when you know what the expectations are in advance. I am assuming expectations of beers sales was laid out in the bid paperwork.
RE: reasonable and intelligent don't use the term  
Vanzetti : 11/18/2022 11:37 am : link
In comment 15911976 oghwga said:
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plenty of entitled college kids whining about shit they know nothing about but "woke" is a nonsense fear mongering statement like cultural elites or left wing academia which is right in line with right wing nut job or moral majority.

None of these terms help move any discussion forward.

Back to the beer!

What do you drink when it's 110 degrees outside?


Woke is a term that was invented and first employed by the "woke" themselves, starting about ten years ago. It is not a term invented by others or its opponents.

However, since it's fairly pretentious to describe yourself as (woke) as if everyone else is asleep, it attracted ridicule and is now probably used more by opponents than proponents.

But up until maybe three or four years ago, the term "woke" was used by the woke to describe themselves and many strong progressives still use it in defiance of conservative mockery.
RE: I don't see soccer passing football in my lifetime  
Vanzetti : 11/18/2022 11:42 am : link
In comment 15911882 UConn4523 said:
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but its certainly possible it happens one day. The MLS is doing well and is very healthy. Their deal with Apple is going to be huge. They (and MMA/UFC for different reasons) seem to be ahead of the curve on various components of the "experience". That will go a long way into growth. And that's what will be needed to get more top athletes to stay in soccer vs. pursuing basketball/football, etc.

My daughter is on the U8 premier team and i'm so impressed with how much more access she has to better coaching and playing almost year round, than I did in the 90's. I really do think there's going to be a huge bump in interest over the next 10-20 years, its virtually inevitable with the strides made in the Youth leagues.


Maybe soccer won't pass football in the country overall but in some cities I think it will. In places like NY and San Francisco soccer also attracts a lot of non-sports fans.

World Cup is also just a huge global event. You don't really have to follow soccer to get into World Cup.
RE: Qatar knew full well what the expectations  
Spiciest Memelord : 11/18/2022 11:44 am : link
In comment 15911997 AnnapolisMike said:
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would be regarding alcohol sales. This last minute ban is nothing but a slap in the face to FIFA and it's business partners.

Don't bid when you know what the expectations are in advance. I am assuming expectations of beers sales was laid out in the bid paperwork.


RE: Qatar knew full well what the expectations  
Vanzetti : 11/18/2022 11:49 am : link
In comment 15911997 AnnapolisMike said:
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would be regarding alcohol sales. This last minute ban is nothing but a slap in the face to FIFA and it's business partners.

Don't bid when you know what the expectations are in advance. I am assuming expectations of beers sales was laid out in the bid paperwork.


They were probably hoping beer sales would be permitted under a license. But the social pressure in the country has likely become too great.

If you think about it, it is really incredible elitism to prohibit something for ordinary people but then allow wealthy outsiders to enter the country and do as they please in complete disregard of the laws and practices.
RE: Qatar knew full well what the expectations  
Mad Mike : 11/18/2022 11:50 am : link
In comment 15911997 AnnapolisMike said:
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would be regarding alcohol sales. This last minute ban is nothing but a slap in the face to FIFA and it's business partners.

Don't bid when you know what the expectations are in advance. I am assuming expectations of beers sales was laid out in the bid paperwork.

Sure, but conversely, FIFA knew full well what Qatar's attitude towards alcohol sales is, and, apparently, didn't include beer sales in the stadiums as part of the contract. The scorpion may be guilty for stinging the frog, but the frog was foolish for letting him onto its back. Or what memelord posted above.
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Jim in Fairfax : 11/18/2022 12:01 pm : link
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Returning Video Tapes : 11/18/2022 12:06 pm : link
In comment 15912031 Vanzetti said:
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would be regarding alcohol sales. This last minute ban is nothing but a slap in the face to FIFA and it's business partners.

Don't bid when you know what the expectations are in advance. I am assuming expectations of beers sales was laid out in the bid paperwork.



They were probably hoping beer sales would be permitted under a license. But the social pressure in the country has likely become too great.

If you think about it, it is really incredible elitism to prohibit something for ordinary people but then allow wealthy outsiders to enter the country and do as they please in complete disregard of the laws and practices.


Welcome to the UAE and Qatar. I despised my time in that part of the world. Most the Expats I met over a few holidays there felt the same….not that I felt bad for them. Most were there for the money.
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Optimus-NY : 11/18/2022 12:19 pm : link
In comment 15912059 Returning Video Tapes said:
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would be regarding alcohol sales. This last minute ban is nothing but a slap in the face to FIFA and it's business partners.

Don't bid when you know what the expectations are in advance. I am assuming expectations of beers sales was laid out in the bid paperwork.



They were probably hoping beer sales would be permitted under a license. But the social pressure in the country has likely become too great.

If you think about it, it is really incredible elitism to prohibit something for ordinary people but then allow wealthy outsiders to enter the country and do as they please in complete disregard of the laws and practices.



Welcome to the UAE and Qatar. I despised my time in that part of the world. Most the Expats I met over a few holidays there felt the same….not that I felt bad for them. Most were there for the money.


What were you there for and for how long?
RE: RE: RE: I don’t think I could care less  
UConn4523 : 11/18/2022 12:20 pm : link
In comment 15911985 Returning Video Tapes said:
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About this blood money slave labor exhibition. Soccer CAN be cool, but not like this.



It’s fine to hate FIFA and all that went into the bidding process. But it isn’t an exhibition and is pretty much the most notable sporting event on earth outside of the Olympics. The players work incredibly hard to make it to this stage and should be supported, and not defined by the corruption they had nothing to do with.



Yeh sure, but it takes the fun out of life when you are watching a friggin game that 1000s died for and untold misery. It would be one thing if something was being done, but the UAE and Qatar attract some of the worst people in the world…. so nothing will be.


Fair enough. I respect this viewpoint although it’s the same premise as using iPhones, wearing Nikes, etc.
Was with the Navy and spent 2 months in aggregate in UAE  
Returning Video Tapes : 11/18/2022 12:24 pm : link
and another two weeks in Bahrain. You aren’t convincing me differently either. It’s essentially all the things I dislike about America ratcheted up 10 times with anti freedom, anti free speech, and massive human rights abuses thrown in on top of it.
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Returning Video Tapes : 11/18/2022 12:25 pm : link
In comment 15912081 UConn4523 said:
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About this blood money slave labor exhibition. Soccer CAN be cool, but not like this.



It’s fine to hate FIFA and all that went into the bidding process. But it isn’t an exhibition and is pretty much the most notable sporting event on earth outside of the Olympics. The players work incredibly hard to make it to this stage and should be supported, and not defined by the corruption they had nothing to do with.



Yeh sure, but it takes the fun out of life when you are watching a friggin game that 1000s died for and untold misery. It would be one thing if something was being done, but the UAE and Qatar attract some of the worst people in the world…. so nothing will be.



Fair enough. I respect this viewpoint although it’s the same premise as using iPhones, wearing Nikes, etc.


Not even close to the same. I don’t think you are familiar with what goes on in the Middle East vs Southeast Asia.
Not going to argue about it  
UConn4523 : 11/18/2022 12:28 pm : link
This thread is already getting derailed.
Returning Vide Taps - You spent two months in the UAE you said?  
Optimus-NY : 11/18/2022 12:33 pm : link
With the navy? Correct me if I'm wrong. Which year was this?
RE: I wonder how many soccer fans  
compton : 11/18/2022 12:37 pm : link
In comment 15911717 Giantsfan79 said:
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Will stay fans if they have to watch the game sober?


Soccer fans are die hard fans. Soccer is a religion. Fans of Brazil will not stop being passionate about the team because they can't drink alcohol in the stadium.
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Optimus-NY : 11/18/2022 12:52 pm : link
In comment 15912107 compton said:
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Will stay fans if they have to watch the game sober?



Soccer fans are die hard fans. Soccer is a religion. Fans of Brazil will not stop being passionate about the team because they can't drink alcohol in the stadium.


+1
RE: Returning Vide Taps - You spent two months in the UAE you said?  
Returning Video Tapes : 11/18/2022 1:19 pm : link
In comment 15912104 Optimus-NY said:
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With the navy? Correct me if I'm wrong. Which year was this?


2011-2013.
A soccer game is played in less than  
Gman11 : 11/18/2022 1:45 pm : link
2 hours. Do you mean to tell me that people can't go 2 hours without a beer? JFC.
RE: A soccer game is played in less than  
UConn4523 : 11/18/2022 1:57 pm : link
In comment 15912187 Gman11 said:
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2 hours. Do you mean to tell me that people can't go 2 hours without a beer? JFC.


They all can. But when you move mountains to get to and attend the event, it certainly sucks to have a basic accommodation (one that was previously approved) unavailable.
RE: On the question of beer  
Optimus-NY : 11/18/2022 2:47 pm : link
In comment 15911991 Vanzetti said:
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Alcohol is haram (forbidden) by all three major schools of Islamic jurisprudence.

In a few places in Quran, it seems like alcohol is being warned against but not absolutely forbidden. However, in one place it is compared to sacrificing to other gods and is described as a product of Satan. Moreover, in the hadith of al-Bukhari, it is clearly forbidden. The hadith are sayings that can be traced directly to the Prophet and have a great deal of authority.

Often, alcohol is treated in Islamic countries the way pot was treated in California: it was illegal but everyone looked the other way if you were discreet and non-public in your usage. However, anyone doing business with a country where their product is technically illegal or haram should be aware that they have a high level of risk and incorporate that risk into their bid for the contract.


There are four schools of jurisprudential thought in Islam, not 3 (Hanafi, Maliki, Hanbali, and Shafi'i). The Quran was revealed over a 23 year span. Alcohol was not banned at first. Muslims were told not to pray in a state of drunkenness. As time passed though, it was forbidden completely (4:42) (2:219).

As far as alcohol in the Gulf is concerned, all I can tell you is that it is all over the place. Plenty of people drink--even locals and Muslims. I don't even want to begin to tell you what I saw there over the span of almost a decade. All I can say is that EVERYONE drinks there, lol. The countries of the Gulf are all about saving face. If you you go to Non-Gulf countries it's more out there. People get drunk as can be when you go camping, in hotels, restaurants, golf clubs, regular clubs, bars, at home, or at parties. It's just regulated and under control. It's readily available. It's hard drugs where the line is absolutely drawn.
RE: RE: Returning Vide Taps - You spent two months in the UAE you said?  
Optimus-NY : 11/18/2022 2:58 pm : link
In comment 15912156 Returning Video Tapes said:
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With the navy? Correct me if I'm wrong. Which year was this?



2011-2013.


I'm on sabbatical now and am with family in gold ole' Nuevoa Jork and am an academic by trade. I've been in the UAE--specifically Abu Dhabi--from 2014 until 2022. A lot has changed since your time there, and two months is not long enough to make an informed judgment of the place. Lots of expats love it there and make it there home because of how safe it is and th weather during this time of year. Not saying those human rights concerns aren't there. They most certainly are, but you are privileged there as a westerner and are given lots of leeway to do things.

There are plenty of nationalities there and it's a smorgasbord. Over time you find a group of like-minded people and become friendly with each other. The biggest problem is the place's transient nature. Lots of other ex-pats never really make the adjustment. You are right about one thing: people are there for the money from everywhere. Lots of laws are being passed and changed now, specifically in the emirate of Dubai. Each emirate has it's own specific character, but Abu Dhabi is the one calling the shots (the Al Nahyan family).

Qatar was asked to join the UAE in 1971, but refused. Who can blame them with all that natural gas either? I was told I'd cry if I saw how the workers really live there. It is something you might not be prepared for when/if you see it. That's why I went out of my way to treat them with courtesy and respect that they otherwise would not receive. So many things I can say really. There are positives, but of course, there are also negatives.
Check this out for a laugh and a half!  
Optimus-NY : 11/18/2022 3:44 pm : link
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Qatar officials have apologised after a broadcast journalist's live TV report was interrupted amid threats to break his camera.

Danish journalist Rasmus Tantholdt was delivering a live report for broadcaster TV2 with his camera crew next to a Doha roundabout when footage shows Qatari officials driving a golf buggy approach. One of them tried to grab the camera, putting his hand over the lens, while two other people also exited the buggy.

Danish station TV2 said on its website: “The team was bluntly told that if they didn’t stop filming, their cameras would be destroyed.


My friend (also an American ex-pat who's stateside form the UAE) shared this with me a couple of days ago in a WhatsApp Group. Completely ridiculous when you get down to it. Give it a watch please everyone, especially for the guy driving the golf cart, lol!

Paranoia is a constant there in Gulf countries, DESPITE this being an opportunity for this World Cup tourney to be free advertising for them, they STILL managed to screw up something extremely basic.


TV reporter accosted by Qatar officials during live interview amid threats to break camera just days before World Cup - ( New Window )
RE: RE: RE: Qatar knew full well what the expectations  
Gforce11 : 11/18/2022 8:29 pm : link
In comment 15912059 Returning Video Tapes said:
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In comment 15912031 Vanzetti said:


Welcome to the UAE and Qatar. I despised my time in that part of the world. Most the Expats I met over a few holidays there felt the same….not that I felt bad for them. Most were there for the money.


What's an Expat?
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Optimus-NY : 11/19/2022 10:26 am : link
In comment 15912474 Gforce11 said:
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Welcome to the UAE and Qatar. I despised my time in that part of the world. Most the Expats I met over a few holidays there felt the same….not that I felt bad for them. Most were there for the money.



What's an Expat?


Someone who lives in a country that's not his/her own for an indefinite period of time, often without becoming a citizen there. Lots of people are digital nomads and/or academics who do that. I made friends with a poster on BBI who's also an expat (no names).
RE: Check this out for a laugh and a half!  
Producer : 11/19/2022 10:45 am : link
In comment 15912296 Optimus-NY said:
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Qatar officials have apologised after a broadcast journalist's live TV report was interrupted amid threats to break his camera.

Danish journalist Rasmus Tantholdt was delivering a live report for broadcaster TV2 with his camera crew next to a Doha roundabout when footage shows Qatari officials driving a golf buggy approach. One of them tried to grab the camera, putting his hand over the lens, while two other people also exited the buggy.

Danish station TV2 said on its website: “The team was bluntly told that if they didn’t stop filming, their cameras would be destroyed.



My friend (also an American ex-pat who's stateside form the UAE) shared this with me a couple of days ago in a WhatsApp Group. Completely ridiculous when you get down to it. Give it a watch please everyone, especially for the guy driving the golf cart, lol!

Paranoia is a constant there in Gulf countries, DESPITE this being an opportunity for this World Cup tourney to be free advertising for them, they STILL managed to screw up something extremely basic.
TV reporter accosted by Qatar officials during live interview amid threats to break camera just days before World Cup - ( New Window )



That's fucking hilarious
We’re they recording in a permitted area?  
giantBCP : 11/19/2022 11:09 am : link
It was widely reported before the World Cup that media would only be allowed to film in authorized zones.
No Problem  
Jeffrey : 11/19/2022 12:53 pm : link
With banning beer sales in the stands but wish they had done it earlier. I have been to several games with drunken Brits and it is absolutely unlike anything i have ever seen in other sports— unruly loud and at times violent. I understand that German and French fans can be as bad. Without some loud mouthed drunks this will be a better experience for other fans. Again no excuse for waiting though and all these restrictions are exactly what FIFA deserves for the corrupt process that was followed.
RE: RE: Retribution  
Gruber : 11/19/2022 1:01 pm : link
In comment 15911902 oghwga said:
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It might have something to do with InBev, the parent company of Budweiser being Belgian owned, and the Belgians being on the forefront of the woke movement against the Qatar World Cup, in regards to worker cruelty corruption, gay rights, etc.



Is it now "woke" to against worker cruelty, corruption, and gay rights?

Fuck me


I know. This usage of the term "woke" is about the dumbest phenomena around right now.
RE: No Problem  
Optimus-NY : 11/19/2022 1:17 pm : link
In comment 15912814 Jeffrey said:
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With banning beer sales in the stands but wish they had done it earlier. I have been to several games with drunken Brits and it is absolutely unlike anything i have ever seen in other sports— unruly loud and at times violent. I understand that German and French fans can be as bad. Without some loud mouthed drunks this will be a better experience for other fans. Again no excuse for waiting though and all these restrictions are exactly what FIFA deserves for the corrupt process that was followed.


+1 Precisely. Well said sir. A British lady friend of mine was saying something along those lines in a WhatsApp Group I'm in today.
RE: We’re they recording in a permitted area?  
Optimus-NY : 11/19/2022 1:24 pm : link
In comment 15912745 giantBCP said:
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It was widely reported before the World Cup that media would only be allowed to film in authorized zones.


Arab Gulf countries are ill equipped logistically to deal with this. He had his permit and they receive an apology later. I saw a tweet in Arabic that when translated indicated that a designated official from the Qatari media office should have accompanied them, but didn't. The while thing was ridiculous. Free pub for your country, or neutral pub, and they managed to turn it into something negative. Just REALLY dumb stuff that could have been avoided. Guy who speaks broken English too dealing with the media over something totally innocent.
Is this any worse than the Olympics in China ?  
Ron from Ninerland : 11/19/2022 4:33 pm : link
Did foreign reporters have free reign to film anywhere they wanted to ? I thought the whole concept of having a world class sporting event in Qatar was a terrible idea, but a reporter getting detained for being somewhere he wasn't supposed to seems like a red herring.
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bradshaw44 : 11/19/2022 5:05 pm : link
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2 hours. Do you mean to tell me that people can't go 2 hours without a beer? JFC.



They all can. But when you move mountains to get to and attend the event, it certainly sucks to have a basic accommodation (one that was previously approved) unavailable.


Agreed. And I find it funny when people project their own beliefs and habits on the the rest of society and if they don’t align they get insulted. People just traveled literally across the globe to watch their favorite teams play, and in many cases wanted to do so with a cold brew in their hand as they did so. It’s not that hard to understand.
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 11/19/2022 5:06 pm : link
Beer is bad for you. Don't drink it.

(As I type from a bar on my 3rd Double IPA.)
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Optimus-NY : 11/19/2022 5:16 pm : link
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2 hours. Do you mean to tell me that people can't go 2 hours without a beer? JFC.



They all can. But when you move mountains to get to and attend the event, it certainly sucks to have a basic accommodation (one that was previously approved) unavailable.



Agreed. And I find it funny when people project their own beliefs and habits on the the rest of society and if they don’t align they get insulted. People just traveled literally across the globe to watch their favorite teams play, and in many cases wanted to do so with a cold brew in their hand as they did so. It’s not that hard to understand.


It's also not so hard to understand that they don't allow alcoholic consumption in public in their stadiums or in a public space. Period. End of story. Not up for negotiation or discussion of any kind. This all should have just been pointed out earlier.
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larryflower37 : 11/19/2022 6:15 pm : link
This has been a cluster and all these FIFA guys took the bribes and Qatar is basically got them over a barrel.
Changing the beers sales 2 days before and basically killing your biggest sponsor.
No reason it should be in Qatar.
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Italianju : 11/19/2022 6:24 pm : link
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2 hours. Do you mean to tell me that people can't go 2 hours without a beer? JFC.



They all can. But when you move mountains to get to and attend the event, it certainly sucks to have a basic accommodation (one that was previously approved) unavailable.



Agreed. And I find it funny when people project their own beliefs and habits on the the rest of society and if they don’t align they get insulted. People just traveled literally across the globe to watch their favorite teams play, and in many cases wanted to do so with a cold brew in their hand as they did so. It’s not that hard to understand.



It's also not so hard to understand that they don't allow alcoholic consumption in public in their stadiums or in a public space. Period. End of story. Not up for negotiation or discussion of any kind. This all should have just been pointed out earlier.


Its easy to understand its also not hard to understand that they said it would be allowed. They knew they would never get the world cup in Qatar if they said they wouldnt allow it. So they said they would, then two days before said "nah we dont allow it". Thats the BS of this whole thing. If they said all along it would not be allowed then this would be perfectly fine. And its not even about it being beer, what if they said all the woman who attend have to wear hijab's, or you can only wear Qatar team colors to all matches, etc... Its 2 days before, u said it would be allowed so it should be allowed. If I was FIFA id pull the Semi finals and finals and move them somewhere else. I know the logistics of that would be impossible, but screw Qatar. Of course screw FIFA to, ha.
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