Jones, Barkley, Thomas...which one's loss would hurt most?

Barkley (we'd have zero offense)
Thomas
Jones

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Jones
big gap
Thomas
really big gap
Barkley

Based mostly on the importance of the position rather than anything else. Thomas is the best player of the three by a good margin. While Tyrod Taylor is a much better back up than we had last year, when DJ went down last year we went from a middling team that with some better defense would have been 500, to a total crap show that could not beat the little sisters of the poor. Similarly when Thomas went down last year both Jones and Barkley got much worse (esp. Jones). Barkley has been great, but it is just a fact that RB is the easiest position to replace on the offense.

So put me in that column. Barkley next.

In comment 15912773 mfjmfj said:

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Jones big gap Thomas really big gap Barkley

Something like this.

Did you see what happened when he took a three-snap breather against Houston?

Andrew Thomas is the best player on the team, but at least they have some decent depth on the offensive line. The Chargers and Cowboys have survived long stretches without their top-tier OLTs. As a run-first offense, the Giants could do the same, at least for a while. They have absolutely nothing behind Lawrence. Same is true of Leonard Williams, actually.

because that one position affects everything else on the offense.

Losing Jones would hurt the least

In comment 15912786 OBJRoyal said:

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Losing Jones would hurt the least

So in order of who’s loss would hurt the most, Barkley first, Thomas second, Jones third

Thomas is our foundational player.

We now have to speculate on losses of our top offensive players. The ones we’ve actually lost so far doesn’t fill you with enough angst. We now need new things to worry about. Yikes.

and that’s not to slight him but with the type of offense we run and the type of backup we have, I dunno if we would miss a whole lot.

Taylor is one of the better backups in the league in my opinion. His thing however is keeping himself healthy.

But Thomas and Barkley are both top 5 at their respective positions, while Jones is in the 15-20 range.

The answer is Thomas, Barkley (big gap) Jones.

In comment 15912786 OBJRoyal said:

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Losing Jones would hurt the least

Clearly this. Aside from no touchdowns, TT has shown he can do it all. In his 2 drives (and 3 pass attempts) he’s thrown the ball to our team, the other team, and to the turf. He scrambled a few times leading to a fumble (no turnover) and an injury.

Now that’s the kind of quality play that would have led our offensively talent-deficient team beyond our pathetic 7-2 record.

closer to Jones than Barkley and Thomas's back ups are to them. I just think there will be a much bigger drop off if Barkley or Thomas go down

0-7 after he left.

So imma say Daniel Jones.

Jones
Thomas
Barkley

I can't imagine any QB comes in and plays as consistently as DJ. Matter of fact, Taylor threw an INT on his first series and got hurt the second.

Losing Thomas effects both DJ and Barkley. Less ypc and more sacks

Losing Barkley would suck but I think RB is a position where you have the best chance of someone stepping up and playing almost as well.

I don’t care who we lose so longer as we beat the Eagles, I’m good.

The Eagles lose would hurt the most

Jones
Thomas
Barkley

As stated, the dropoff from him to the next man up is the biggest there.

Breida has done OK, and could suffice in a pinch in a system where there's an actual passing game. That isn't the case here, so no Barkley is going to be painful.

IF TT has anything left, he can be a game manager. Jones is doing a good job there, but don't mistake W's meaning Jones is the one making it happen. Jones is being a good game manager. Lose the star of the OL, and I don't think he looks anywhere near as good.

2 of the 3 are stars. The other is a good game manager.

In comment 15912786 OBJRoyal said:

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Losing Jones would hurt the least

This is correct. Heck, we lost Jones last year and, IIRC, there was no drop in performance when the backups came in.

A shut down left tackle is very difficult to find and we have one.

RB is a highly fungible piece. He is likely the best RB in the league right now, but the difference between RBs is small. I think the Giants could quickly find someone to grow into an average NFL QB and do it cheaper than what Jones will cost so would put him and Barkley in the same area. There are decisions to be made on both.

Barkley is the engine offense right now, block it up (Thomas) and give SB the touches.

+1

Big gap
Barkley
Huge gap
Jones

Thomas is a great player at an important position. Barkley is a great player at a typically unimportant position. But in the case of this team we have so little talent around those 2 that our RB is foundational to what we do.

Jones last on that group obviously. The other two are among the best players at their positions. Jones is well below average at his. We run the most simplified, dumbed down offense in the NFL for a QB. We don't pass and when we do it's among the shortest in the league and very often outside the pocket. The coaches have done a remarkable job in designing this O such that any QB with just basic NFL skills can be fine in it.

The Falcons are doing something similar - they pass very little, but they do throw it deep. Those 2 offensive staffs are doing truly amazing jobs this year.

Is the best of the three. Then I would say Barkley.

In comment 15913245 John In CO said:

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In comment 15912786 OBJRoyal said: Quote: Losing Jones would hurt the least This is correct. Heck, we lost Jones last year and, IIRC, there was no drop in performance when the backups came in.

Do you not watch the games?