I can't remember a unit so devoid of talent in the almost 30ish years I've watch this team. Is that hyperbole? I don't think it is.
The Robinson injury is brutal. You'd expect he was pencil'd in as the starting slot WR next season, but now a ACL Tear in late November means he's probably starting the season on PUP at best.
The Giants don't just need a #1 WR. They don't just need two receivers.. They need to rip the entire group out by the stem and replace it. It's conceivable they turn the entire WR roster over next year.
Schoen has a huge task in front of him. Insane.
Not sure he wants to sign with us after Wandale gettting his knee blown out by our turf
I think this is the underlying reason that we’re looking to bring OBJ back.
He did not.
I think this is the underlying reason that we’re looking to bring OBJ back.
Someone gonna give DJ a Carr like contract…gurantee that. Made no sense not to put him on 5th year option.
Wide outs like Rashee Rice, Either Tenn WR, Parker Washington should be available in rounds 2-3. Wandale Injury sucks big time but he'll be back and he's a piece for the future it may help if he comes back and can be our 3/4th until he gets back into the swing of things.
What a cataclysmic failure.
Don't we have enough injury-prone players on our WR corp?
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DJ or otherwise? If we don’t bring Jones back on a franchise tag, I think we’re going to be left with a rookie or Taylor out of necessity.
I think this is the underlying reason that we’re looking to bring OBJ back.
Someone gonna give DJ a Carr like contract…gurantee that. Made no sense not to put him on 5th year option.
In retrospect, Schoen’s biggest mistake was not signing Jones long term in the off-season. Forget the fifth year option. He could have gotten a great bargain, but he missed the boat.
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DJ or otherwise? If we don’t bring Jones back on a franchise tag, I think we’re going to be left with a rookie or Taylor out of necessity.
I think this is the underlying reason that we’re looking to bring OBJ back.
Someone gonna give DJ a Carr like contract…gurantee that. Made no sense not to put him on 5th year option.
In retrospect, Schoen’s biggest mistake was not signing Jones long term in the off-season. Forget the fifth year option. He could have gotten a great bargain, but he missed the boat.
This off season is going to be so much fun with what happens with Jones. If the Giants don't sign him its going to be real interesting what he gets in the market. My guess would be a two year deal.
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DJ or otherwise? If we don’t bring Jones back on a franchise tag, I think we’re going to be left with a rookie or Taylor out of necessity.
I think this is the underlying reason that we’re looking to bring OBJ back.
Someone gonna give DJ a Carr like contract…gurantee that. Made no sense not to put him on 5th year option.
DJ will not be back. Joe Schoen pretty much guaranteed that by not taking the 5th year option. From a cost perspective it will never work out. Franchise Tag is not really an option at the 40+ or whatever it's expected to be.
Also DJ said in one of his recent pressers that they didn't talk contract at all over the bye week.
I agree with you - there will be a ton of teams in the market for a serviceable QB (12+ by my count) that will pay starter AAV but on a shorter term.
WDR- looks like he’ll be headed for PUP
Hodgins- kept around as a #5/#6. Assume he competes with Colin Johnson on the back of the roster.
Draft- they need multiple guys. A guy in round 1 to be the alpha since there aren’t any notable FA’s. Jordan Addison would fit this system well. I also LOVE Zay Flowers
Draft sequence.
What a cataclysmic failure.
We also spent a ton on the offense line...look how good that worked out...
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we have spent more money on WR than any team in the league, I believe.
What a cataclysmic failure.
We also spent a ton on the offense line...look how good that worked out...
not the line that's starting this year though, it's mostly young (Thomas, Neal, Gates, Lemieux, Ezudu). Just because Gettleman was a moron...
Underscores even more why we shouldn't take a quarterback in the first round. With all these injuries we're going to be picking closer to 20 than 30
Should still be in range for a stud wide receiver in the first round
Unfortunately this WR draft group isn't as strong at the top as the last few years
Underscores even more why we shouldn't take a quarterback in the first round. With all these injuries we're going to be picking closer to 20 than 30
Should still be in range for a stud wide receiver in the first round
Unfortunately this WR draft group isn't as strong at the top as the last few years
Slayton is a starting caliber Z receiver. He led the team in yards in 2019 and 2020 and will lead the team again this year (he already is).
I don't know what a "WR4" is.
We need a true big body X which is what Golladay is supposed to be. Hodgins has been a fine replacement X having been here only 2 weeks.
Wandale will return as the slot guy assuming he rehabs OK. I worry about his durability having missed a month at the beginning of the season and now the ACL. He may have a shorter career than Shep.
Disagree completely. He's been the team's best receiver since 2019 and it's not even close. Backups don't lead the team in production for 3 years on their rookie contract. He would be the starting Z on half the teams in the league.
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Hence WR4
Disagree completely. He's been the team's best receiver since 2019 and it's not even close. Backups don't lead the team in production for 3 years on their rookie contract. He would be the starting Z on half the teams in the league.
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DJ or otherwise? If we don’t bring Jones back on a franchise tag, I think we’re going to be left with a rookie or Taylor out of necessity.
I think this is the underlying reason that we’re looking to bring OBJ back.
Someone gonna give DJ a Carr like contract…gurantee that. Made no sense not to put him on 5th year option.
In retrospect, Schoen’s biggest mistake was not signing Jones long term in the off-season. Forget the fifth year option. He could have gotten a great bargain, but he missed the boat.
In time, the NY environment will change this, but I believe there are and will be growing pains. He's a first time GM don't forget. experience in that role is something that he does, as a matter of historical fact, lack.
Being the exec officer ain't the same as being the captain. Same goes for Kafka. They will get better as they become more seasoned. Problem is it takes seasons to become seasoned, and experience to become experienced.
I can count 6 teams in the NFC alone where he would be an upgrade at the position.
After today he has more yards than our next 2 WRs combined and in fewer games.
I am really confused by what your definition of "starter" is and how you define a guy who has over 2,200 yards in 3.5 seasons a "WR4".
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I can count 6 teams in the NFC alone where he would be an upgrade at the position.
After today he has more yards than our next 2 WRs combined and in fewer games.
I am really confused by what your definition of "starter" is and how you define a guy who has over 2,200 yards in 3.5 seasons a "WR4".
Why do you keep comparing Slayton to our other receivers? He had a good rookie season, sucked for 2 years, and now is the only halfway decent receiver on the team
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I can count 6 teams in the NFC alone where he would be an upgrade at the position.
After today he has more yards than our next 2 WRs combined and in fewer games.
I am really confused by what your definition of "starter" is and how you define a guy who has over 2,200 yards in 3.5 seasons a "WR4".
Why do you keep comparing Slayton to our other receivers? He had a good rookie season, sucked for 2 years, and now is the only halfway decent receiver on the team
Lol. His 2nd year was literally better than his rookie year. Now I'm convinced you don't watch much football.
We get Thibs, Azeez goes down for 10 games. We draft Neal, he’s down. Next season he’ll be 100% but Thomas will go down.
It’s just the way it is for the Giants. Cursed. Historically our top WRs always have short Giants careers. Steve Smith, Nicks, Manningham, Cruz….
Draft sequence.
I wouldn't be upset if we traded a WR in the first AND second round