Having to take their goalkeeper out. He’s known to be able to throw the ball extremely far, and that can be a great weapon in a match like this where they’re outmanned. Guinness record long throw. - ( New Window )
Pretty much what has been rumored and speculated past 24 hours. Amazing that we can have a lineup without Gio and Aaronson, shows our depth. Bring them on as super subs.
Pretty much what has been rumored and speculated past 24 hours. Amazing that we can have a lineup without Gio and Aaronson, shows our depth. Bring them on as super subs.
LETS GO USA!!!!!
Never seen so many people satisfied with a GB lineup lol
He's probably not even the best player on the team.
who would you say is?
McKennie is in the conversation. Didn't Dest have a record transfer fee for a US player? And in a year or two it may be all about Musah, already the youngest player to start a US WC game, i expect him to have a lot of interest from a top EPL club.
He's probably not even the best player on the team.
who would you say is?
McKennie is in the conversation. Didn't Dest have a record transfer fee for a US player? And in a year or two it may be all about Musah, already the youngest player to start a US WC game, i expect him to have a lot of interest from a top EPL club.
Not even close. Pulisic's transfer fee from Dortmund to Chelsea was £58m. Dest's move from Ajax to Barcelona was €21m. Dest transfer history - ( New Window )
He's probably not even the best player on the team.
who would you say is?
McKennie is in the conversation. Didn't Dest have a record transfer fee for a US player? And in a year or two it may be all about Musah, already the youngest player to start a US WC game, i expect him to have a lot of interest from a top EPL club.
Not even close. Pulisic's transfer fee from Dortmund to Chelsea was £58m. Dest's move from Ajax to Barcelona was €21m. Dest transfer history - ( New Window )
Right.. i was thinking of Dest's buyout clause which was swt at a whopping 400M pounds.
a saying that fusion is the "fuel of the future, and always will be." That also seems to apply to U.S. soccer. We've been told for 25 years that the future of U.S. soccer is bright. But the team always seems to have the same problems, namely poor passing, difficulty clearing the ball, and a lack of creativity in the midfield.
How popular would the NFL be if a penalty that had nothing to do with a scoring chance gave the fouled team the ball on the opposing 1 yard line?
Everything off the field about this sport is disgusting and corrupt and the games are decided by complete bullshit made up calls.
I tuned in to see an elite athletic contest and it's filled with fake injuries and flopping and a game deciding call that had nothing to do with the outcome.
How popular would the NFL be if a penalty that had nothing to do with a scoring chance gave the fouled team the ball on the opposing 1 yard line?
Everything off the field about this sport is disgusting and corrupt and the games are decided by complete bullshit made up calls.
I tuned in to see an elite athletic contest and it's filled with fake injuries and flopping and a game deciding call that had nothing to do with the outcome.
Back to US football and baseball for me.
If you tuned in for elite soccer, you watched the wrong game. These are not elite teams.
3rd but I like our odds to advance on goal differential as long as we don’t get destroyed by England. Like our odds to put up more goals on Iran than Wales
How popular would the NFL be if a penalty that had nothing to do with a scoring chance gave the fouled team the ball on the opposing 1 yard line?
Everything off the field about this sport is disgusting and corrupt and the games are decided by complete bullshit made up calls.
I tuned in to see an elite athletic contest and it's filled with fake injuries and flopping and a game deciding call that had nothing to do with the outcome.
had one shot on goal. We should try and take some shots from outside the penalty box where it's less crowded to at least give the opposing GK something to do. Of course, we'd actually have to put those shots on goal and not send them 10 miles over the bar as players usually do.
What's going on drake88? Here's a pic of the bracket (top 2 in each group get through to the Round of 16):
If we're 2nd in this group and get through to the 2nd round then we play the 1st place finisher in Group D. France is the obvious favorite in that group. Whoever finishes 2nd in Group B is likely in for a monumental task in the next round.
The biggest Welsh fear is that the speed and energy of the US would be too much for them, and it was for a half.
Second half you could see the US was tiring and Berhalter didn't sub early enough to stem the tide and structure. Zimmerman made a stupid challenge. When you don't get the win, all the little things matter.
There does need to be some discussion of how to protect Pulisic. No one in the US squad has the protector gravitas.
RE: You chalk it up to immaturity across the board.
The biggest Welsh fear is that the speed and energy of the US would be too much for them, and it was for a half.
Second half you could see the US was tiring and Berhalter didn't sub early enough to stem the tide and structure. Zimmerman made a stupid challenge. When you don't get the win, all the little things matter.
There does need to be some discussion of how to protect Pulisic. No one in the US squad has the protector gravitas.
What's going on drake88? Here's a pic of the bracket (top 2 in each group get through to the Round of 16):
If we're 2nd in this group and get through to the 2nd round then we play the 1st place finisher in Group D. France is the obvious favorite in that group. Whoever finishes 2nd in Group B is likely in for a monumental task in the next round.
FIFA World Cup 2022 Bracket Printable & PDF - ( New Window )
Is Serbia-Croatia possible with the way it is set up?
Serbia and Croatia can meet as long as they both don't finish first in their group or both don't finish second in their group. One has to win their group and the other has to finish second.
Is Serbia-Croatia possible with the way it is set up?
Serbia and Croatia can meet as long as they both don't finish first in their group or both don't finish second in their group. One has to win their group and the other has to finish second.
got it. thanks. still cheering for the US but wanted a backup matchup.
had one shot on goal. We should try and take some shots from outside the penalty box where it's less crowded to at least give the opposing GK something to do. Of course, we'd actually have to put those shots on goal and not send them 10 miles over the bar as players usually do.
This game needed a little bit of Gio Reyna unfortunately. But without a real striker, the pieces don't seem to fit well enough.
Whether by design or not the US completely changed tactics in the second half after total domination in the first half. Put that on the coach because teams that play to protect a lead often blow the game. Some random thoughts from my chair:
Still lacking a real striker on this team. Noticed Sargent dropping too deep to get involved in the play rather than staying up top and providing a target. Wright had no impact.
Tyler Adams is by far the US best player and most consistent.
Pulisic does what he does best--attacking from wide position and creating chances and what he does poorly--terrible set pieces. Been waiting for someone else to be given a shot but seems unlikely. Terribly inconsistent officiating but Pulisic and others need to stop whining as it does not work with professional referees.
Weah is a beast on the ball but too often the attack was down the left side and he was not involved.
Left back is still a problem for the US with Dest often out of position andscrambling to get back and Yedlin not an attacking option at all.
McKennie and Musah leaving the game hurt but both must be injured.
Aaronson did not have the same impact in terms of size or strength as McKennie and Acosta is not close to the threat of Musah.
Where's Reyna?
Ream did great and Zimmerman has played long enough now to know that his unnecessary mistake--and it was a clear foul--may ultimately send the Americans home early.
This was the result that I expected but could have easily been avoided had the team not become so timid up top and in the midfield in the second half. So now it comes down to goal differential as to who loses by the least to England and who can beat Iran by the most. I am not betting on the US as their players looked totally wasted in the second half and some are injured or playing on a yellow which makes it hard to go full steam.
Whether by design or not the US completely changed tactics in the second half after total domination in the first half. Put that on the coach because teams that play to protect a lead often blow the game. Some random thoughts from my chair:
Still lacking a real striker on this team. Noticed Sargent dropping too deep to get involved in the play rather than staying up top and providing a target. Wright had no impact.
Tyler Adams is by far the US best player and most consistent.
Pulisic does what he does best--attacking from wide position and creating chances and what he does poorly--terrible set pieces. Been waiting for someone else to be given a shot but seems unlikely. Terribly inconsistent officiating but Pulisic and others need to stop whining as it does not work with professional referees.
Weah is a beast on the ball but too often the attack was down the left side and he was not involved.
Left back is still a problem for the US with Dest often out of position andscrambling to get back and Yedlin not an attacking option at all.
McKennie and Musah leaving the game hurt but both must be injured.
Aaronson did not have the same impact in terms of size or strength as McKennie and Acosta is not close to the threat of Musah.
Where's Reyna?
Ream did great and Zimmerman has played long enough now to know that his unnecessary mistake--and it was a clear foul--may ultimately send the Americans home early.
This was the result that I expected but could have easily been avoided had the team not become so timid up top and in the midfield in the second half. So now it comes down to goal differential as to who loses by the least to England and who can beat Iran by the most. I am not betting on the US as their players looked totally wasted in the second half and some are injured or playing on a yellow which makes it hard to go full steam.
Seems to a layman here that Wales adjusted well in the second half and stopped playing not to get beat. Had Wales played like that the entire game I am not sure we could've won. I guess Wales feared the US counter in the first half?
Disappointing game, but at least we held onto a point.
Here's a more clear pic of the bracket than the one I posted above:
Whether by design or not the US completely changed tactics in the second half after total domination in the first half. Put that on the coach because teams that play to protect a lead often blow the game. Some random thoughts from my chair:
Still lacking a real striker on this team. Noticed Sargent dropping too deep to get involved in the play rather than staying up top and providing a target. Wright had no impact.
Tyler Adams is by far the US best player and most consistent.
Pulisic does what he does best--attacking from wide position and creating chances and what he does poorly--terrible set pieces. Been waiting for someone else to be given a shot but seems unlikely. Terribly inconsistent officiating but Pulisic and others need to stop whining as it does not work with professional referees.
Weah is a beast on the ball but too often the attack was down the left side and he was not involved.
Left back is still a problem for the US with Dest often out of position andscrambling to get back and Yedlin not an attacking option at all.
McKennie and Musah leaving the game hurt but both must be injured.
Aaronson did not have the same impact in terms of size or strength as McKennie and Acosta is not close to the threat of Musah.
Where's Reyna?
Ream did great and Zimmerman has played long enough now to know that his unnecessary mistake--and it was a clear foul--may ultimately send the Americans home early.
This was the result that I expected but could have easily been avoided had the team not become so timid up top and in the midfield in the second half. So now it comes down to goal differential as to who loses by the least to England and who can beat Iran by the most. I am not betting on the US as their players looked totally wasted in the second half and some are injured or playing on a yellow which makes it hard to go full steam.
Excellent analysis. At least one of the announcers was questioning why Reyna didn't play. I thought we'd have some counterattacking opportunities in the second half as Wales started to press forward but the lack of a real finishing striker meant that even when we did, we couldn't capitalize. We have very little on offense.
the crying act every time he's touched. Geez, even I was getting tired of it.
I thought the ref was a bit too quick with the yellow cards, but if that's what's needed to try to keep control of the game it's not so bad.
US should not have let Wales back in the game. Friday is a big step up in class. Be afraid. Be very afraid.
To me it seemed they played for the 1 nil score and it cost them. Thoughts?
I really don't think that the US was playing for a tie. I think they looked like a young team that was trying to protect a lead and something the coaches have to prevent. The crisp passing was completely missing to begin the second half and the US players were not putting together the combinations they did in the first half for the better part of the first 25 minutes of the second half. After that they played better but still looked tired and slow and several times the ball was just cleared out of the back rather than making an effort to play on the front foot. I am as frustrated as anyone by what I think was an unnecessary loss--I mean tie-- but it is not shocking given the youth of this team.
The problem now is that England is an entirely different type of animal than Wales and the US will have to play a more defensive game. If they beat the US, England could and should likely rest many of their star players in the Wales match to be fresh for the next round. This will give Wales an advantage in the goal differential battle that appears likely unless Iran can pull a stunner. Iran is ranked 20th and Wales 19th so anything is possible in what will be a home game for Iran. However, that will require an entirely different Iran to show up than we saw today.
the crying act every time he's touched. Geez, even I was getting tired of it.
I thought the ref was a bit too quick with the yellow cards, but if that's what's needed to try to keep control of the game it's not so bad.
US should not have let Wales back in the game. Friday is a big step up in class. Be afraid. Be very afraid.
To me it seemed they played for the 1 nil score and it cost them. Thoughts?
I really don't think that the US was playing for a tie. I think they looked like a young team that was trying to protect a lead and something the coaches have to prevent. The crisp passing was completely missing to begin the second half and the US players were not putting together the combinations they did in the first half for the better part of the first 25 minutes of the second half. After that they played better but still looked tired and slow and several times the ball was just cleared out of the back rather than making an effort to play on the front foot. I am as frustrated as anyone by what I think was an unnecessary loss--I mean tie-- but it is not shocking given the youth of this team.
The problem now is that England is an entirely different type of animal than Wales and the US will have to play a more defensive game. If they beat the US, England could and should likely rest many of their star players in the Wales match to be fresh for the next round. This will give Wales an advantage in the goal differential battle that appears likely unless Iran can pull a stunner. Iran is ranked 20th and Wales 19th so anything is possible in what will be a home game for Iran. However, that will require an entirely different Iran to show up than we saw today.
"If they beat the US, England could and should likely rest many of their star players in the Wales match to be fresh for the next round."
Combine this with the fact that Wales are sort of "bretheren" to England, and this could be a bad scenario. England resting players and not being to upset with a Wales draw, is a bad place for the US to be.
- We have some game. We made Wales look pathetic in the 1st half.
- Wales don't look like they have a ton of goals in them. I don't see them lighting up Iran
- England is not laying down for Wales. Even if they play all their subs, they are going to go super hard
Despite all that, massive disappointment in the 2nd half. We just needed to control the ball and not make a mistake on D. Couldn't do that to see it out. We definitely got nervous/tired, which is to be expected from a young team, but massively frustrating nonetheless. We were real close to having a huge advantage. Now it's a complete dogfight.
This is a different US team though. It's not the standard blood, guts, and set pieces. In fact our set pieces on both ends kind of suck. This team can really play.
- We have some game. We made Wales look pathetic in the 1st half.
- Wales don't look like they have a ton of goals in them. I don't see them lighting up Iran
- England is not laying down for Wales. Even if they play all their subs, they are going to go super hard
Despite all that, massive disappointment in the 2nd half. We just needed to control the ball and not make a mistake on D. Couldn't do that to see it out. We definitely got nervous/tired, which is to be expected from a young team, but massively frustrating nonetheless. We were real close to having a huge advantage. Now it's a complete dogfight.
This is a different US team though. It's not the standard blood, guts, and set pieces. In fact our set pieces on both ends kind of suck. This team can really play.
To be clear I do not expect England to lay down for Wales, but it would be coaching malpractice (something Southgate is capable of) for England not to rest their stars if they have already clinched the first position after the US game. Realistically this young and talented US squad is here to advance to the next round and gain valuable experience. England is here to win the World Cup.
Dest was played out of position.
Pulisic was terrible on set piece deliveries which use to be a USMNT strength.
Tyler Adams played a terrific game as did Robinson.
We stopped attacking in second half. Tried to counter attack Wales.
When was the last time we had a true striker. Has been a weakness for years
Is Reyna injured?
Stupid penalty by Zimmerman on Bales with his back to the goal. Just needed to stand him up.
Truth be told we were lucky to get a draw. Moore should have buried that header.
England is going to dominate us in the midfield Friday
Iran could beat or tie Wales, over 50% on betting sites
came down to one ugly blunder, the kind of foul that a high school player shouldn't make. Bale is a phenomenal player, but unlike other world-class strikers, he's not much of a threat to work magic with his back to the goal.
If we'd been offered a draw before the match, though, I'd have accepted it.
the crying act every time he's touched. Geez, even I was getting tired of it.
I thought the ref was a bit too quick with the yellow cards, but if that's what's needed to try to keep control of the game it's not so bad.
US should not have let Wales back in the game. Friday is a big step up in class. Be afraid. Be very afraid.
To me it seemed they played for the 1 nil score and it cost them. Thoughts?
I agree, USA looked much better than Wales in the 1st half, but seemed to decide 1-0 was enough and thought their best chance was to hold on to the result, this was a game that if they won they're likely in the playoffs.
England likely beats everyone and 2nd place could be had with 4 points and best goal differential.
If we're 2nd in this group and get through to the 2nd round then we play the 1st place finisher in Group D. France is the obvious favorite in that group. Whoever finishes 2nd in Group B is likely in for a monumental task in the next round.
If we get through as the 2nd place team, we would play the 1st place team from Group A, and the winner of that match would play the winner of the 1C - 2D match. At least that's how the brackets are usually done and I don't think there's been a change. The winner of the D group (if France), would play the 2nd place team from Group C
I didn't see it as switching tactics in the 2nd half; from minute 45 until ~ 70, the game looked to me much the same, except US was wearing down, it had played an energetic balls to the wall 1st, and we had no answers for Moore and height in the area.
As we tired, the missed touches you saw in the 1st became more prevalent, there were so many potential services into the area that were just a bit off and/or were outright missed by their targets, frustrating. Wales played patiently and began to prevail in midfield as the 2nd half wore on.
Musah, Dest, and Sargent (?) were subbed, I didn't like the play of the men off the bench at all, clear decline in play.
As said by many, set pieces were anemic and they need better deliveries. Which brings me to Pulisic: he is highly skilled, but I thought he had a poor game, his wonderful redirection to Weah notwithstanding. I thought his decision making was poor, crossing when he could have sent or run deeper and taking on two defenders when he should have crossed. His whining, as well as his very obvious flops trying to draw calls, stood out for what they were, not good looks.
The penalty, good gosh, guess Z was just overtaken by the moment, he must cringe now every time he has to see a replay.
By and large, the populations of Mexico and Central America are smallish by NA and northern hemisphere standards. Yet, in a sport and at a position where height and length are highly valued, Mexico and Costa Rica have two of the best keepers in the world and maybe the shortest in this WC. Love their heart and quickness and understanding of the game.
RE: Don't know where to put this but Ronaldo is gone from United
Mutual termination aka we pay you to go away and don't let the door knob hit you on the way out.
Another milestone of how awful the Glazers (and Ed Woodward) have botched the last decade. Link - ( New Window )
They have and the cynics in UK about their ownership have many good reasons to be appalled and outraged. But, BHE, on the merits of Ronaldo the player, don't you see his as a shell of his former ability?
RE: RE: Don't know where to put this but Ronaldo is gone from United
Mutual termination aka we pay you to go away and don't let the door knob hit you on the way out.
Another milestone of how awful the Glazers (and Ed Woodward) have botched the last decade. Link - ( New Window )
They have and the cynics in UK about their ownership have many good reasons to be appalled and outraged. But, BHE, on the merits of Ronaldo the player, don't you see his as a shell of his former ability?
He scored 20+ goals last year. The key here is he doesn't fit into a modern system and was a poor fit from the beginning. He's a poacher that doesn't press. Cavani was a much better fit for the Ten Hag system and the club drove him out when they signed Ronaldo.
Ronaldo should finish his career where it started at Sporting.
he didnt fit the team at all. Def has stunted the trajectory of Fernandez. Ever since Ronaldo has got there Bruno has looked like a completely different player.
Time for Ronaldo to do his MLS tour. How badly will Apple push for that to happen, lol.
Then 2 minutes later he took himself out.
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Then 2 minutes later he took himself out.
That's because there isn't a concussion protocol in soccer. I don't even think it's part of the rule that the player has to be subbed out.
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Then 2 minutes later he took himself out.
That's because there isn't a concussion protocol in soccer. I don't even think it's part of the rule that the player has to be subbed out.
So Fifa is a decade behind on concussions.
Why exactly? This is a new generation of possibly the best young talent we've put on the pitch (2002 club was quite good). Why the hate?
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Why exactly? This is a new generation of possibly the best young talent we've put on the pitch (2002 club was quite good). Why the hate?
I can’t wait to hear the reasoning behind this.
This feels like someone wanting to make a contrarian statement with no context so that people will ask about it.
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Concussed.
Then 2 minutes later he took himself out.
That's because there isn't a concussion protocol in soccer. I don't even think it's part of the rule that the player has to be subbed out.
So Fifa is a decade behind on concussions.
Just heard Iran can sub 1 more player because the keeper might've been concussed.
So what I told you is outdated, they seem to have a protocol now.
It's just that I've watched and played soccer my entire life without seeing more than 1 or 2 cases, thought this wasn't a deal in soccer.
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This feels like someone wanting to make a contrarian statement with no context so that people will ask about it.
You are clueless moron. Since I am not allowed to be political, I will leave it at that.
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This feels like someone wanting to make a contrarian statement with no context so that people will ask about it.
You are clueless moron. Since I am not allowed to be political, I will leave it at that.
So why bring it up? Just fuck off instead, no one wants that garbage here.
08/2001? Never seen you post. Is this the oldest troll account on BBI?
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This feels like someone wanting to make a contrarian statement with no context so that people will ask about it.
You are clueless moron. Since I am not allowed to be political, I will leave it at that.
Lol, why did I know this had a political motive.
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Eff them
This feels like someone wanting to make a contrarian statement with no context so that people will ask about it.
You are clueless moron. Since I am not allowed to be political, I will leave it at that.
There are plenty of other forums where you can bitch about how the US is such a horrible place. Why post this here?
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This feels like someone wanting to make a contrarian statement with no context so that people will ask about it.
You are clueless moron. Since I am not allowed to be political, I will leave it at that.
Go back to the Jets "Gang Green" forum
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They really have been the better team. It is too bad Mane isn't fit.
Actually feel bad for Senegal, they may still get a draw though. Either way I think they go through.
thanks.
Pretty much what has been rumored and speculated past 24 hours. Amazing that we can have a lineup without Gio and Aaronson, shows our depth. Bring them on as super subs.
LETS GO USA!!!!!
Pretty much what has been rumored and speculated past 24 hours. Amazing that we can have a lineup without Gio and Aaronson, shows our depth. Bring them on as super subs.
LETS GO USA!!!!!
Never seen so many people satisfied with a GB lineup lol
Serious answer. The fact that Wales competes separately doesn't make it a country as that term is usually understood.
Puerto Rico competes separately from the USA in the Olympics but it's not a country, again as usually understood.
Wiki has a discussion of the contention over labels for the UK entities, linked.
Max Weber famously defined a nation state as a collective that exercises a monopoly over the use of legitimate force within its boundaries.
Wales wouldn't qualify on that account.
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There’s nothing I could do about it so I generally don’t think about it.
I don’t why they’d be in the fix. Bigger issue is this Qatari guy has been extremely inconsistent.
Serves Wales right for all the flopping.
Absolute Brilliance
Brilliant pass and finish.
As expected, Wales is trying to beat up Pulisic...
who would you say is?
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who would you say is?
McKennie is in the conversation. Didn't Dest have a record transfer fee for a US player? And in a year or two it may be all about Musah, already the youngest player to start a US WC game, i expect him to have a lot of interest from a top EPL club.
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He's probably not even the best player on the team.
who would you say is?
McKennie is in the conversation. Didn't Dest have a record transfer fee for a US player? And in a year or two it may be all about Musah, already the youngest player to start a US WC game, i expect him to have a lot of interest from a top EPL club.
Not even close. Pulisic's transfer fee from Dortmund to Chelsea was £58m. Dest's move from Ajax to Barcelona was €21m.
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He's probably not even the best player on the team.
who would you say is?
McKennie is in the conversation. Didn't Dest have a record transfer fee for a US player? And in a year or two it may be all about Musah, already the youngest player to start a US WC game, i expect him to have a lot of interest from a top EPL club.
Not even close. Pulisic's transfer fee from Dortmund to Chelsea was £58m. Dest's move from Ajax to Barcelona was €21m. Dest transfer history - ( New Window )
Right.. i was thinking of Dest's buyout clause which was swt at a whopping 400M pounds.
We are going to have opportunities on the break because Wales is attacking so aggressively.
Yup
Basically.
Apparently you don't watch the modern NBA much...
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Apparently you don't watch the modern NBA much...
Where do you think the NBA got it? ;)
Everything off the field about this sport is disgusting and corrupt and the games are decided by complete bullshit made up calls.
I tuned in to see an elite athletic contest and it's filled with fake injuries and flopping and a game deciding call that had nothing to do with the outcome.
Back to US football and baseball for me.
Agreed. Mucho phuq.
It's the European way. I see it EVERY week in the EPL and La Liga.
The Bundesliga - to me - does it much less...
Wales/FIFA: 1
US was the better team but immaturity lost the 3 points.
Everything off the field about this sport is disgusting and corrupt and the games are decided by complete bullshit made up calls.
I tuned in to see an elite athletic contest and it's filled with fake injuries and flopping and a game deciding call that had nothing to do with the outcome.
Back to US football and baseball for me.
If you tuned in for elite soccer, you watched the wrong game. These are not elite teams.
Not really. Tough game.
No
Everything off the field about this sport is disgusting and corrupt and the games are decided by complete bullshit made up calls.
I tuned in to see an elite athletic contest and it's filled with fake injuries and flopping and a game deciding call that had nothing to do with the outcome.
Back to US football and baseball for me.
You didn't watch elite teams just now.
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the group stage? Is any final possible ?
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Is Serbia-Croatia possible with the way it is set up?
What's going on drake88? Here's a pic of the bracket (top 2 in each group get through to the Round of 16):
If we're 2nd in this group and get through to the 2nd round then we play the 1st place finisher in Group D. France is the obvious favorite in that group. Whoever finishes 2nd in Group B is likely in for a monumental task in the next round.
FIFA World Cup 2022 Bracket Printable & PDF - ( New Window )
Second half you could see the US was tiring and Berhalter didn't sub early enough to stem the tide and structure. Zimmerman made a stupid challenge. When you don't get the win, all the little things matter.
There does need to be some discussion of how to protect Pulisic. No one in the US squad has the protector gravitas.
Second half you could see the US was tiring and Berhalter didn't sub early enough to stem the tide and structure. Zimmerman made a stupid challenge. When you don't get the win, all the little things matter.
There does need to be some discussion of how to protect Pulisic. No one in the US squad has the protector gravitas.
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the group stage? Is any final possible ?
What's going on drake88? Here's a pic of the bracket (top 2 in each group get through to the Round of 16):
If we're 2nd in this group and get through to the 2nd round then we play the 1st place finisher in Group D. France is the obvious favorite in that group. Whoever finishes 2nd in Group B is likely in for a monumental task in the next round.
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thanks. didn't see it set up like that.
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the group stage? Is any final possible ?
No
Is Serbia-Croatia possible with the way it is set up?
Serbia and Croatia can meet as long as they both don't finish first in their group or both don't finish second in their group. One has to win their group and the other has to finish second.
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In comment 15917182 drake88 said:
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the group stage? Is any final possible ?
No
Is Serbia-Croatia possible with the way it is set up?
Serbia and Croatia can meet as long as they both don't finish first in their group or both don't finish second in their group. One has to win their group and the other has to finish second.
got it. thanks. still cheering for the US but wanted a backup matchup.
This game needed a little bit of Gio Reyna unfortunately. But without a real striker, the pieces don't seem to fit well enough.
Still lacking a real striker on this team. Noticed Sargent dropping too deep to get involved in the play rather than staying up top and providing a target. Wright had no impact.
Tyler Adams is by far the US best player and most consistent.
Pulisic does what he does best--attacking from wide position and creating chances and what he does poorly--terrible set pieces. Been waiting for someone else to be given a shot but seems unlikely. Terribly inconsistent officiating but Pulisic and others need to stop whining as it does not work with professional referees.
Weah is a beast on the ball but too often the attack was down the left side and he was not involved.
Left back is still a problem for the US with Dest often out of position andscrambling to get back and Yedlin not an attacking option at all.
McKennie and Musah leaving the game hurt but both must be injured.
Aaronson did not have the same impact in terms of size or strength as McKennie and Acosta is not close to the threat of Musah.
Where's Reyna?
Ream did great and Zimmerman has played long enough now to know that his unnecessary mistake--and it was a clear foul--may ultimately send the Americans home early.
This was the result that I expected but could have easily been avoided had the team not become so timid up top and in the midfield in the second half. So now it comes down to goal differential as to who loses by the least to England and who can beat Iran by the most. I am not betting on the US as their players looked totally wasted in the second half and some are injured or playing on a yellow which makes it hard to go full steam.
Still lacking a real striker on this team. Noticed Sargent dropping too deep to get involved in the play rather than staying up top and providing a target. Wright had no impact.
Tyler Adams is by far the US best player and most consistent.
Pulisic does what he does best--attacking from wide position and creating chances and what he does poorly--terrible set pieces. Been waiting for someone else to be given a shot but seems unlikely. Terribly inconsistent officiating but Pulisic and others need to stop whining as it does not work with professional referees.
Weah is a beast on the ball but too often the attack was down the left side and he was not involved.
Left back is still a problem for the US with Dest often out of position andscrambling to get back and Yedlin not an attacking option at all.
McKennie and Musah leaving the game hurt but both must be injured.
Aaronson did not have the same impact in terms of size or strength as McKennie and Acosta is not close to the threat of Musah.
Where's Reyna?
Ream did great and Zimmerman has played long enough now to know that his unnecessary mistake--and it was a clear foul--may ultimately send the Americans home early.
This was the result that I expected but could have easily been avoided had the team not become so timid up top and in the midfield in the second half. So now it comes down to goal differential as to who loses by the least to England and who can beat Iran by the most. I am not betting on the US as their players looked totally wasted in the second half and some are injured or playing on a yellow which makes it hard to go full steam.
Seems to a layman here that Wales adjusted well in the second half and stopped playing not to get beat. Had Wales played like that the entire game I am not sure we could've won. I guess Wales feared the US counter in the first half?
Disappointing game, but at least we held onto a point.
Sorry about the bottom of the pic posted previously being obstructed.
Still lacking a real striker on this team. Noticed Sargent dropping too deep to get involved in the play rather than staying up top and providing a target. Wright had no impact.
Tyler Adams is by far the US best player and most consistent.
Pulisic does what he does best--attacking from wide position and creating chances and what he does poorly--terrible set pieces. Been waiting for someone else to be given a shot but seems unlikely. Terribly inconsistent officiating but Pulisic and others need to stop whining as it does not work with professional referees.
Weah is a beast on the ball but too often the attack was down the left side and he was not involved.
Left back is still a problem for the US with Dest often out of position andscrambling to get back and Yedlin not an attacking option at all.
McKennie and Musah leaving the game hurt but both must be injured.
Aaronson did not have the same impact in terms of size or strength as McKennie and Acosta is not close to the threat of Musah.
Where's Reyna?
Ream did great and Zimmerman has played long enough now to know that his unnecessary mistake--and it was a clear foul--may ultimately send the Americans home early.
This was the result that I expected but could have easily been avoided had the team not become so timid up top and in the midfield in the second half. So now it comes down to goal differential as to who loses by the least to England and who can beat Iran by the most. I am not betting on the US as their players looked totally wasted in the second half and some are injured or playing on a yellow which makes it hard to go full steam.
Excellent analysis. At least one of the announcers was questioning why Reyna didn't play. I thought we'd have some counterattacking opportunities in the second half as Wales started to press forward but the lack of a real finishing striker meant that even when we did, we couldn't capitalize. We have very little on offense.
Oops from before! That'd be correct. US can get to the Round of 16. I expect it actually, as long as these guys play like they're able.
Netherlands will likely win that group and are a good team. Easily top 10 and probably top 5 team.
I thought the ref was a bit too quick with the yellow cards, but if that's what's needed to try to keep control of the game it's not so bad.
US should not have let Wales back in the game. Friday is a big step up in class. Be afraid. Be very afraid.
I thought the ref was a bit too quick with the yellow cards, but if that's what's needed to try to keep control of the game it's not so bad.
US should not have let Wales back in the game. Friday is a big step up in class. Be afraid. Be very afraid.
To me it seemed they played for the 1 nil score and it cost them. Thoughts?
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the crying act every time he's touched. Geez, even I was getting tired of it.
I thought the ref was a bit too quick with the yellow cards, but if that's what's needed to try to keep control of the game it's not so bad.
US should not have let Wales back in the game. Friday is a big step up in class. Be afraid. Be very afraid.
To me it seemed they played for the 1 nil score and it cost them. Thoughts?
I really don't think that the US was playing for a tie. I think they looked like a young team that was trying to protect a lead and something the coaches have to prevent. The crisp passing was completely missing to begin the second half and the US players were not putting together the combinations they did in the first half for the better part of the first 25 minutes of the second half. After that they played better but still looked tired and slow and several times the ball was just cleared out of the back rather than making an effort to play on the front foot. I am as frustrated as anyone by what I think was an unnecessary loss--I mean tie-- but it is not shocking given the youth of this team.
The problem now is that England is an entirely different type of animal than Wales and the US will have to play a more defensive game. If they beat the US, England could and should likely rest many of their star players in the Wales match to be fresh for the next round. This will give Wales an advantage in the goal differential battle that appears likely unless Iran can pull a stunner. Iran is ranked 20th and Wales 19th so anything is possible in what will be a home game for Iran. However, that will require an entirely different Iran to show up than we saw today.
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the crying act every time he's touched. Geez, even I was getting tired of it.
I thought the ref was a bit too quick with the yellow cards, but if that's what's needed to try to keep control of the game it's not so bad.
US should not have let Wales back in the game. Friday is a big step up in class. Be afraid. Be very afraid.
To me it seemed they played for the 1 nil score and it cost them. Thoughts?
I really don't think that the US was playing for a tie. I think they looked like a young team that was trying to protect a lead and something the coaches have to prevent. The crisp passing was completely missing to begin the second half and the US players were not putting together the combinations they did in the first half for the better part of the first 25 minutes of the second half. After that they played better but still looked tired and slow and several times the ball was just cleared out of the back rather than making an effort to play on the front foot. I am as frustrated as anyone by what I think was an unnecessary loss--I mean tie-- but it is not shocking given the youth of this team.
The problem now is that England is an entirely different type of animal than Wales and the US will have to play a more defensive game. If they beat the US, England could and should likely rest many of their star players in the Wales match to be fresh for the next round. This will give Wales an advantage in the goal differential battle that appears likely unless Iran can pull a stunner. Iran is ranked 20th and Wales 19th so anything is possible in what will be a home game for Iran. However, that will require an entirely different Iran to show up than we saw today.
"If they beat the US, England could and should likely rest many of their star players in the Wales match to be fresh for the next round."
Combine this with the fact that Wales are sort of "bretheren" to England, and this could be a bad scenario. England resting players and not being to upset with a Wales draw, is a bad place for the US to be.
- Wales don't look like they have a ton of goals in them. I don't see them lighting up Iran
- England is not laying down for Wales. Even if they play all their subs, they are going to go super hard
Despite all that, massive disappointment in the 2nd half. We just needed to control the ball and not make a mistake on D. Couldn't do that to see it out. We definitely got nervous/tired, which is to be expected from a young team, but massively frustrating nonetheless. We were real close to having a huge advantage. Now it's a complete dogfight.
This is a different US team though. It's not the standard blood, guts, and set pieces. In fact our set pieces on both ends kind of suck. This team can really play.
- Wales don't look like they have a ton of goals in them. I don't see them lighting up Iran
- England is not laying down for Wales. Even if they play all their subs, they are going to go super hard
Despite all that, massive disappointment in the 2nd half. We just needed to control the ball and not make a mistake on D. Couldn't do that to see it out. We definitely got nervous/tired, which is to be expected from a young team, but massively frustrating nonetheless. We were real close to having a huge advantage. Now it's a complete dogfight.
This is a different US team though. It's not the standard blood, guts, and set pieces. In fact our set pieces on both ends kind of suck. This team can really play.
To be clear I do not expect England to lay down for Wales, but it would be coaching malpractice (something Southgate is capable of) for England not to rest their stars if they have already clinched the first position after the US game. Realistically this young and talented US squad is here to advance to the next round and gain valuable experience. England is here to win the World Cup.
Pulisic was terrible on set piece deliveries which use to be a USMNT strength.
Tyler Adams played a terrific game as did Robinson.
We stopped attacking in second half. Tried to counter attack Wales.
When was the last time we had a true striker. Has been a weakness for years
Is Reyna injured?
Stupid penalty by Zimmerman on Bales with his back to the goal. Just needed to stand him up.
Truth be told we were lucky to get a draw. Moore should have buried that header.
England is going to dominate us in the midfield Friday
That's the optimistic take.
If we'd been offered a draw before the match, though, I'd have accepted it.
Wales/FIFA: 1
Why FIFA?
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the crying act every time he's touched. Geez, even I was getting tired of it.
I thought the ref was a bit too quick with the yellow cards, but if that's what's needed to try to keep control of the game it's not so bad.
US should not have let Wales back in the game. Friday is a big step up in class. Be afraid. Be very afraid.
To me it seemed they played for the 1 nil score and it cost them. Thoughts?
I agree, USA looked much better than Wales in the 1st half, but seemed to decide 1-0 was enough and thought their best chance was to hold on to the result, this was a game that if they won they're likely in the playoffs.
England likely beats everyone and 2nd place could be had with 4 points and best goal differential.
This result would be a dream come true to me.
Me, lol.
If we get through as the 2nd place team, we would play the 1st place team from Group A, and the winner of that match would play the winner of the 1C - 2D match. At least that's how the brackets are usually done and I don't think there's been a change. The winner of the D group (if France), would play the 2nd place team from Group C
I hope so. Always fun to see the juggernauts go down.
As we tired, the missed touches you saw in the 1st became more prevalent, there were so many potential services into the area that were just a bit off and/or were outright missed by their targets, frustrating. Wales played patiently and began to prevail in midfield as the 2nd half wore on.
Musah, Dest, and Sargent (?) were subbed, I didn't like the play of the men off the bench at all, clear decline in play.
As said by many, set pieces were anemic and they need better deliveries. Which brings me to Pulisic: he is highly skilled, but I thought he had a poor game, his wonderful redirection to Weah notwithstanding. I thought his decision making was poor, crossing when he could have sent or run deeper and taking on two defenders when he should have crossed. His whining, as well as his very obvious flops trying to draw calls, stood out for what they were, not good looks.
The penalty, good gosh, guess Z was just overtaken by the moment, he must cringe now every time he has to see a replay.
My feelings too.
Another milestone of how awful the Glazers (and Ed Woodward) have botched the last decade.
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By and large, the populations of Mexico and Central America are smallish by NA and northern hemisphere standards. Yet, in a sport and at a position where height and length are highly valued, Mexico and Costa Rica have two of the best keepers in the world and maybe the shortest in this WC. Love their heart and quickness and understanding of the game.
Another milestone of how awful the Glazers (and Ed Woodward) have botched the last decade. Link - ( New Window )
They have and the cynics in UK about their ownership have many good reasons to be appalled and outraged. But, BHE, on the merits of Ronaldo the player, don't you see his as a shell of his former ability?
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Mutual termination aka we pay you to go away and don't let the door knob hit you on the way out.
Another milestone of how awful the Glazers (and Ed Woodward) have botched the last decade. Link - ( New Window )
They have and the cynics in UK about their ownership have many good reasons to be appalled and outraged. But, BHE, on the merits of Ronaldo the player, don't you see his as a shell of his former ability?
He scored 20+ goals last year. The key here is he doesn't fit into a modern system and was a poor fit from the beginning. He's a poacher that doesn't press. Cavani was a much better fit for the Ten Hag system and the club drove him out when they signed Ronaldo.
Ronaldo should finish his career where it started at Sporting.
Time for Ronaldo to do his MLS tour. How badly will Apple push for that to happen, lol.