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Adversity is about to hit

GRBlue : 11/21/2022 2:35 pm
We'll see how this coaching staff handles it. Like any new relationship you don't know what you gots until you're in the shmutz.

Captain Obvious here:
-Schedule is TOUGH from here on out.
-Secondary is already banged up(X, Moreau) and now they lose CB1
-An emerging safety blanket WR for DJ now out for the year and only other WR that cuts the mustard on this roster is 86
-Will get tougher to beat teams as they hone in on shutting down an already banged up 26
-Already hard to win in the division and everyone else is rolling
- And the BIG ONE: Vegas had them at 7 wins. They are never far off.

Hate to say it but I will....this has all the makings of a collapse. Just an opinion but 9 wins would be a miracle.

I've been in the DJ fan club since day 1 because his character,, athleticism and leadership but this is one tall task and will likely bring out all the haters again. Hoping they can weather the storm.
Its not a collapse when they have already outperformed any realistic  
Bold Ruler : Mod : 11/21/2022 2:38 pm : link
expectation of how their year would start.
The loss we had yesterday happens but...  
bluewave : 11/21/2022 2:46 pm : link
it's the injuries that looms the longest shadow over the rest of this season...
Agree with both  
RAIN : 11/21/2022 2:53 pm : link
It hit before and will continue in more Intense way. Still wish we could have hung on to Heilmann in strength and conditioning.
RE: Its not a collapse when they have already outperformed any realistic  
GRBlue : 11/21/2022 2:54 pm : link
In comment 15917004 Bold Ruler said:
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expectation of how their year would start.


Wonderful point. Just hoping these next 7 weeks don't sting the fanbase!
We knew the 2nd half of the season  
Section331 : 11/21/2022 3:00 pm : link
would be more challenging, and that was before the glut of injuries. Even at 7-2, I felt that 10 wins was probably as good as we should expect. That will get us into the playoffs, and I still think we’ll get there.
Its still a rebuilding year  
blueblood : 11/21/2022 3:03 pm : link
and people need to accept that.
Desperately need Neal, X and Belly back.  
BlueHurricane : 11/21/2022 3:05 pm : link
Hopefully nobody else is lost for the year while they wait for them.

These next 13 days might be very ugly.
I’d be shocked  
ajr2456 : 11/21/2022 3:07 pm : link
If they only won one more game. Washington is playing better but by the time we play them the second time we should have Adoree and maybe X back.

The Colts are playing hard for Saturday but that offense is just an inept at scoring points as ours is.
RE: I’d be shocked  
joeinpa : 11/21/2022 3:12 pm : link
In comment 15917051 ajr2456 said:
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If they only won one more game. Washington is playing better but by the time we play them the second time we should have Adoree and maybe X back.

The Colts are playing hard for Saturday but that offense is just an inept at scoring points as ours is.


Exactly.
So far this season this coaching staff have figured out  
steve in ky : 11/21/2022 3:14 pm : link
What buttons to push and the team has pulled some wins nobody expected, I don’t know that won’t continue. Nothing is easy in the NFL but coaching does make a difference and so far that has given the Giants an edge more often than not. I’m not giving up on the season.
It’s a rebuilding year and always was  
UberAlias : 11/21/2022 3:16 pm : link
It’s nice to see a few wins, but honestly some folks started having some unrealistic expectations for a team in year 1 post the DG era.
9-8  
Breeze_94 : 11/21/2022 3:17 pm : link
Is my prediction. They split with WFT and win vs Indy
RE: RE: Its not a collapse when they have already outperformed any realistic  
Gatorade Dunk : 11/21/2022 3:22 pm : link
In comment 15917031 GRBlue said:
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expectation of how their year would start.



Wonderful point. Just hoping these next 7 weeks don't sting the fanbase!

There are no universal truths about the fanbase, most of all those about what stings.

Some fans have bought all the way in on the Giants' start this season. Those fans might feel any sort of collapse more strongly because of the contrast with where they were emotionally at 6-1/7-2. This group of fans overlaps fairly strongly with fans who will cling strongly to every glimmer of hope as evidence that their loyalty is being rewarded.

Some fans have been skeptical all the way on the Giants' start this season. Those fans will not feel a collapse; rather, they'll see a downturn as the other shoe they've been waiting on finally dropping. This group of fans overlaps fairly strongly with fans who are so beaten down by the past half decade of futility that they just expect failure even in the face of success.

And most fans will fall somewhere in between those two extremes. From my perspective, most reasonable fans have opinions that fall into this middle ground, largely understanding that this was always intended to be a foundational year (simply put, it's extremely difficult to contend in the same season that you're absorbing a cap purge), and that the team got out to a hot start that gave them some house money to be playing with right now.

In simplest terms, any fans who understood all along that this season has been a virtuoso performance by our coaches shouldn't be devastated to see a middling roster struggle to overcome injury setbacks and some friction caused by the league catching up with their tendencies. Any fans who thought that Daboll and his staff had magically transformed a middling roster into a championship contender are going to have to learn the hard way about being objective about the roster's actual talent level even when rooting for their team, unfortunately.

So be it.
based on recent history  
bc4life : 11/21/2022 3:28 pm : link
anything close to .500 this year was improvement.

5/7 are Division games. Should be competitive but might get worn down by Boys & Eagles. Think we may split with Commanders.

Colts is winnable.

We won two games no one thought we'd win - Ravens & Titans and lost one we thought we'd win - Lions.

I am thinking we get Ojulari back and that should help Thibs , alomg with interior pressure we have been getting. We're decent against the run - if they can step up pass rush and minimize need to blitz - we will win 2 -3 of remaining games.
...  
ryanmkeane : 11/21/2022 3:36 pm : link
last I checked we were up 13-6 on Dallas until things unraveled a bit in the second half. Who's just giving this game to Dallas on Thursday?
RE: Its still a rebuilding year  
dlauster : 11/21/2022 3:40 pm : link
In comment 15917039 blueblood said:
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and people need to accept that.


Thank you! I agree. Next year is the beginning of our window.
They have faced adversity almost from the start  
Lines of Scrimmage : 11/21/2022 3:47 pm : link
and have fared well. Dallas can be a really tough one but hopefully Neal and Bellinger are back for WFT. Then maybe X. This gives them a solid chance to win games if they execute and play to potential and the plan/adjustments is solid.

Six games. I am expecting at least 3 wins.

For Dallas a lot of things will have to go right. If we see they are running the ball over twenty five times (in the 3rd) for more than 4 ypc it will be a 4th QTR game. If not head to the Turkey table early.
RE: ...  
fanatic II : 11/21/2022 4:20 pm : link
In comment 15917117 ryanmkeane said:
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last I checked we were up 13-6 on Dallas until things unraveled a bit in the second half. Who's just giving this game to Dallas on Thursday?


That was week 3 with Rush at QB.

Since Prescott has returned Dallas is averaging 33 points a game. Tops in the NFL. This is a different offense.

You're comparing apples to oranges.
RE: ...  
mvftw : 11/21/2022 4:29 pm : link
In comment 15917117 ryanmkeane said:
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last I checked we were up 13-6 on Dallas until things unraveled a bit in the second half. Who's just giving this game to Dallas on Thursday?


This is a National TV Game for Dallas...I see a 30-40 point loss (anything less would be good)...and Jones will be lucky to finish the game...
In a weird way...  
OBJ_AllDay : 11/21/2022 4:44 pm : link
Isn't where the Giants find themselves a perfect time in regards to evaluation and the rebuild of this team? Here's the deal Jones find a way to drag this team across the finish line with 2 wins over Washington or at least split those and win 3 of the remaining 7 games and the team likely finds themselves in the dance.

I said goodbye this week.  
Photoguy : 11/21/2022 4:56 pm : link
to a co-worker who just passed at 41 from cancer.

This is nothing. Nothing.
I m guessing that coach Daboll will handle  
joeinpa : 11/21/2022 5:12 pm : link
Any adversity quite well, certainly better than many posters here if their takes after yesterday are any indication
RE: ...  
SirLoinOfBeef : 11/21/2022 6:44 pm : link
In comment 15917117 ryanmkeane said:
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last I checked we were up 13-6 on Dallas until things unraveled a bit in the second half. Who's just giving this game to Dallas on Thursday?


That game, and the team quite frankly, are not the same as this week's matchup.

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