Sy'56's Giants-Lions Game Review

In comment 15918468 Ten Ton Hammer said:

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If you want to credit the DE, that's fine. The issue continues to be that he didn't see the DE. If you throw a ball into a defenders hands and he drops it, it's a bad decision by the QB, period, full stop. You just got away with it. If you throw a pass at a defender in zone coverage because you didn't see the defender, that is a bad play by the QB.

Meanwhile, Giants DB misses an INT thrown right at him - I mean between the numbers - that probably is returned for a significant gain at an important juncture, but DET DE makes a really great finger tip INT that leads to a scoring play.

Those are the breaks and that's the NFL. Goff comes out unscathed, and DJ takes some lumps.

In comment 15918205 bw in dc said:

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I'll watch it again but I'm fairly certain that pass was high and behind Cager. He had no chance to make a play. He's exonerated in my view... As I mentioned earlier, Jones also had WDR underneath for a much easier completion and missed that, too.

It was a bad throw, Cager had no chance. The only way he could have alligator-armed it was if his arms were 6 ft long. This excuse and the “it was like a punt” excuse are why many of Jones’s defenders can’t be taken seriously. There can’t be ANY critique of St Daniel. It was a bad throw. It happens, but be honest and call it what it is.

In comment 15918898 Section331 said:

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In comment 15918205 bw in dc said: Quote: I'll watch it again but I'm fairly certain that pass was high and behind Cager. He had no chance to make a play. He's exonerated in my view... As I mentioned earlier, Jones also had WDR underneath for a much easier completion and missed that, too. It was a bad throw, Cager had no chance. The only way he could have alligator-armed it was if his arms were 6 ft long. This excuse and the “it was like a punt” excuse are why many of Jones’s defenders can’t be taken seriously. There can’t be ANY critique of St Daniel. It was a bad throw. It happens, but be honest and call it what it is.

The margin for error is so slim that any poor pass is now scrutinized and put under a microscope. All QBs make bad throws on occasion. Eli had many awshits throws IIRC as well.

In comment 15918970 Simms11 said:

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In comment 15918898 Section331 said: Quote: In comment 15918205 bw in dc said: Quote: I'll watch it again but I'm fairly certain that pass was high and behind Cager. He had no chance to make a play. He's exonerated in my view... As I mentioned earlier, Jones also had WDR underneath for a much easier completion and missed that, too. It was a bad throw, Cager had no chance. The only way he could have alligator-armed it was if his arms were 6 ft long. This excuse and the “it was like a punt” excuse are why many of Jones’s defenders can’t be taken seriously. There can’t be ANY critique of St Daniel. It was a bad throw. It happens, but be honest and call it what it is. The margin for error is so slim that any poor pass is now scrutinized and put under a microscope. All QBs make bad throws on occasion. Eli had many awshits throws IIRC as well.

All that was/is needed was/is an acknowledgement that it was a bad throw. It becomes larger when those want to argue that it wasn't.

it looks like our linebackers tend to be late with play recognition; McFadden bit on a play-action pass that resulted in a 32-yard gain to Amon Ra St. Brown while Smith wound up giving up the second Williams touchdown by thinking Williams was going to jump over the pile while he just skirted the pile and Smith was a step late and Williams scores.

Now how does one improve on reads as a linebacker?

what's Martindale thinking by dropping Jihad Ward, a 290-lb 3-4 DE type, into coverage with a tight end? I get the need to be multiple, but please, know what your players can and can't do and if Ward can't keep up with a tight end, he's probably not the best man for the job. He isn't like Strahan who could play man coverage on a tight end and make a pick-six. Even Sy mentions that Ward doing this isn't a good idea.

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Martindale put [Ward] into coverage on a couple of occasions via the zone blitz and it hurt the defense. Ward moves more like a defensive tackle than a linebacker. Stiff and slow.

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