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Detroit and the nine-man box

Atlantic : 11/23/2022 10:24 am
The Lions were all in on stopping SB and daring Jones to beat them. There were times when they had a tenth guy in the box.

So does Dallas follow the same strategy? Every team comes into the Giants game with stopping Barkley as their number one priority. But no one stuffed the box like Detroit.

If I was Deboll, I would come out throwing on offense. Get those guys out of the box. Jones has had it easy this year as a healthy Barkeley has opened up secondaries. Time for Jones to repay the favor. Pass to set up the run.
I think  
46and2Blue : 11/23/2022 10:30 am : link
Dallas is more talented on defense than the lions. They don't need to sell out to stop Barkley. Their fron is a handful. That said. Aaron Jones tore them up.
Come out throwing to who?  
kinard : 11/23/2022 10:36 am : link
Darius Slayon? Lawrence Cager? Giants need to run the ball somehow and shorten the game. That's what they do best. Keep the Cowboy offense off the field. Win the special teams match up. Need a huge game from Saquon and few plays from Daniel Jones. If Daniel Jones is throwing the ball more than 25 times, we're cooked.
Flea Flciker on the Very First Play From Scrimmage  
LTIsTheGreatest : 11/23/2022 10:47 am : link
for a touchdown! Jones to Barkely, back to Jones who hits Golladay for 75 yard strike!
I dont think its just come out throwing  
nygiants16 : 11/23/2022 10:49 am : link
its spread them out and hit them with the RPO, make Parsons and Lawrence think a little bit and it slows them down on their pass rush just enough..

It also creates lanes for Barkley to hit because those DEs have to pause just a secons to make sure Jones doesnt have it
They'll come out stacking the box a bit  
Producer : 11/23/2022 11:01 am : link
maybe not as much as Detroit, but this is the recipe to stop the Giants. Expect teams to do the "reverse Mahomes" and dare Jones to beat them.
Boy  
ambr0se201 : 11/23/2022 11:10 am : link
I miss the days of starting out the game with an I-Formation playaction bomb from eli to burress. one vs the falcons always comes into my mind.
We kept  
46and2Blue : 11/23/2022 11:38 am : link
hearing about Barkley lining up as a WR, and him being more involved in the passing game. Need to start seeing that. Maybe try to get him and Breida on the field and get him in out on some match up routes. Kafka needs to be creative if we are going to win this one.
I think the plan will be to possess the ball  
Lines of Scrimmage : 11/23/2022 11:39 am : link
however the run/pass ratio breaks. Giants are at a disadvantage being on both short rest and having to travel.

You get into the second half of these games fatigue sets it.

The keys are play count and TOP.

I would love seeing a nice 10 plus drive to start the game and then a Dallas three and out.
RE: Flea Flciker on the Very First Play From Scrimmage  
NJBlueTuna : 11/23/2022 11:48 am : link
In comment 15918853 LTIsTheGreatest said:
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for a touchdown! Jones to Barkely, back to Jones who hits Golladay for 75 yard strike!


This +10. Do a flea flicker every single play to Golloday like playing Bo Jackson in Techno Super Bowl in 1989. They won’t be able to stop it.
I could probably fly to Dallas and back  
ChicagoMarty : 11/23/2022 11:55 am : link
in the time it takes Golladay to run 75 yards
And should Golladay  
ChicagoMarty : 11/23/2022 11:58 am : link
actually be able to run 75 yards without hurting himself what are the odds he actually catches the ball?
I don’t think they will start with 9 men in the box......  
Simms11 : 11/23/2022 12:00 pm : link
Only if they need to. I think they’ll see how their front 7 can handle the run game first.
They absolutely are in the place  
allstarjim : 11/23/2022 1:01 pm : link
Where they need to use the pass to set up the run.

That said, none of it will matter if they don't hold up on their blocks. It doesn't matter if the Cowboys rush 3, the blocking up front, which was as much of a failure of an OL in a single game I've seen as there was at any point during the Judge or Shurmur eras. It was disturbingly bad. I think it's a case of guys not being 100% and also the fact that Lemieux and/or Gates may not quite be back.

And I will say this re: Lemieux...prior to his injury, he was not a good pass pro guy. They miss Bredeson, and he's not a world-beater.

I think Lemieux and Ezeudu need to be coached up, hopefully they can show they can be part of the future before the end of the season. Would like the Giants not have to feel like drafting interior OL early is an imperative, although it still might not be a bad idea.
Huh huh  
FranknWeezer : 11/23/2022 2:40 pm : link


You said stuffing box.
This is a good point in general  
Jerry in_DC : 11/23/2022 3:16 pm : link
But its real dangerous against Dallas with their pass rush. We don't have a lot of good choices in this matchuo. I think just hoping Barkley makes plays is the only thing that has a chance
10 guys in the box....  
BillKo : 11/23/2022 3:21 pm : link
...would like to see a snapshot of that.

Uhhh Throw it to  
TheBlueprintNC : 11/23/2022 3:39 pm : link
Who? Butter fingers Slayton, Gip Galloday, Fumbelina, Wrong route Hodge? Casper the non blocking ghost TE? Which even if they wanted will they have any time with the paper thin OL?JHC Prayers for Dan .
RE: Flea Flciker on the Very First Play From Scrimmage  
GMen72 : 11/23/2022 5:11 pm : link
In comment 15918853 LTIsTheGreatest said:
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for a touchdown! Jones to Barkely, back to Jones who hits Golladay for 75 yard strike!


DJ would check down to the TE.
RE: Flea Flciker on the Very First Play From Scrimmage  
PepperJ52 : 11/23/2022 5:13 pm : link
In comment 15918853 LTIsTheGreatest said:
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for a touchdown! Jones to Barkely, back to Jones who hits Golladay for 75 yard strike!

Ha! I visualized nearly the same thing except to Slayton.
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