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OL Ezeudu, Neal, Feliciano and Lemieux are all OUT

Big Blue Blogger : 11/23/2022 12:57 pm
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The Giants announced that OL Josh Ezeudu, OL Evan Neal, OL Jon Feliciano and OL Shane Lemieux are out for tomorrow. So plug Jack Anderson in at LG. Then Matt Peart as swing tackle with Devery Hamilton and a PS elevation (Solomon Kindley?) as depth.


Shades of December 2003. - ( New Window )
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Man this game seems like it's gonna be awful  
Ten Ton Hammer : 11/23/2022 1:00 pm : link
On the surface.
Shades  
thrunthrublue : 11/23/2022 1:00 pm : link
Of the little big horn…..on thanksgiving!
I would say  
Lines of Scrimmage : 11/23/2022 1:01 pm : link
that makes it a bit more difficult tomorrow.
 
ryanmkeane : 11/23/2022 1:02 pm : link
Glad we waited a year for Lemieux to play
RE: Shades  
Since1965 : 11/23/2022 1:02 pm : link
In comment 15919022 thrunthrublue said:
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Of the little big horn…..on thanksgiving!


LOL!
Ugh  
Drewcon40 : 11/23/2022 1:02 pm : link
just heard the same - let's hope we can hang in there and keep the game close. Maybe the injury luck will turn in our favor when we have a favorable roster in the coming years.
Like I said in a previous thread  
jvm52106 : 11/23/2022 1:05 pm : link
that pretty much eliminates the jumbo formation we have been using.

The Lemieux toe thing came out of nowhere. Either he was playing before truly being ready or he reaggravated teh injury. Regardless that sucks considering JE is out. In some ways I wonder of the Giants are just looking at Washington as their next real game.

Gotta wonder, with this patchwork line does it make sense to maybe dial Barkley back for a week, again with Washington Philly and Washington again coming up?
RE: Shades  
Giantsfan79 : 11/23/2022 1:05 pm : link
In comment 15919022 thrunthrublue said:
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Of the little big horn…..on thanksgiving!


agreed the Cowboys and their fans are overconfident like Custer.
WTF  
Crazed Dogs : 11/23/2022 1:05 pm : link
this so sucks....all the injuries so suck..Anderson and Peart..yikes... Hope Jones uses his wheels....a lot
Kindley has fifteen career starts vs. one for Anderson.  
Big Blue Blogger : 11/23/2022 1:06 pm : link
The Giants may view Kindley strictly as a right guard at this point, assuming they view him as anything.

Glowinski has experience at LG, but I doubt they want to unsettle one of the two stable positions.
Ughh, at this point I think we should just  
sec308 : 11/23/2022 1:06 pm : link
forfeit. LOL
Well  
JB_in_DC : 11/23/2022 1:08 pm : link
A lot of these guys have another bye week now. Get ready for a HUGE game at home VS WSH.
Dallas has a lengthy injury report as well going  
nygiants16 : 11/23/2022 1:11 pm : link
..
RE: RE: Shades  
M.S. : 11/23/2022 1:11 pm : link
In comment 15919031 Giantsfan79 said:
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In comment 15919022 thrunthrublue said:


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Of the little big horn…..on thanksgiving!



agreed the Cowboys and their fans are overconfident like Custer.

What am I doin' here?
Please Mr. Custer, I don't want to go
Hey, Mr. Custer, please don't make me go
I had a dream last night about the comin' fight
Somebody yelled "attack!"
And there I stood with a arrow in my back.
Please Mr. Custer, I don't want to go (forward ho!) aw
Look at them bushes out there
They're moving and there's a injun behind every one
Hey, Mr. Custer-you mind if I be excused the rest of the afternoon?
Hey charlie, duck yer head!
Hm, you're a little bit late on that one, charlie
Ooh, I bet that smarts!
What am I doin' here?
Please Mr. Custer, I don't want to go
Listen, Mr. Custer, please don't make me go
There's a redskin a-waitin' out there, just fixin' to take my hair
A coward I've been called 'cause I don't want to wind up dead or bald
Please Mr. Custer, I don't want to go (forward ho) aw
I wonder what the injun word for friend is
Let's see friend kemo sabe, that's it
Kemo sabe!
Hey out there, kemo sabe!
Nope, that itn't it
Look at them out there
They're runnin' around like a bunch of wild Indians
Heh, heh, heh
Nah, this ain't no time for jokin'
RE: Kindley has fifteen career starts vs. one for Anderson.  
ColHowPepper : 11/23/2022 1:13 pm : link
In comment 15919034 Big Blue Blogger said:
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...Glowinski has experience at LG, but I doubt they want to unsettle one of the two stable positions.

Yes, it is forbidden to unsettle one of the two stable positions, just ask JJ and our OL coach sending Price in for Gates and moving him to LG. Let's hope Dabs is smarter than that.
This is going to be ugly  
jeff57 : 11/23/2022 1:15 pm : link
.
How  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/23/2022 1:18 pm : link
the hell is Lemieux injured again?

Is it the same toe?

Now, this is Ronnie Barnes issue.
Oh my. Parson’s going to have  
Section331 : 11/23/2022 1:20 pm : link
a field day. Wink’s going to have to dial up some pressure and stop the run.
This is gonna be ooglay  
Optimus-NY : 11/23/2022 1:21 pm : link
.
I'll be barfing up my meal by halftime  
Jints in Carolina : 11/23/2022 1:23 pm : link
.
If Daniel Jones  
Sammo85 : 11/23/2022 1:24 pm : link
can win this game, I'll give him his new contract on the plane ride home.
RE: How  
Jints in Carolina : 11/23/2022 1:24 pm : link
In comment 15919057 Eric from BBI said:
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the hell is Lemieux injured again?

Is it the same toe?

Now, this is Ronnie Barnes issue.


Coughlin was right...injuries are a disease....i cannot believe how year in and year out half our team is injured.
If they want to dress an 8th lineman / 48th player...  
Big Blue Blogger : 11/23/2022 1:25 pm : link
They can elevate both Kindley and Cunningham. Might not be a bad idea, considering that Phillips, Peart, Thomas, and Gates all have their own injury concerns. The second elevation would cost a bit of money, and would preclude elevating Kalil Pimpleton or Nick Vannett

A sneakier use of the "bonus" lineman would be to give Vannett an OL number, elevate him, and have him report in as eligible if he enters the game. It would be fun to watch Jerry's reaction. (Could be the only fun we have all day.)
RE: Dallas has a lengthy injury report as well going  
regischarlotte : 11/23/2022 1:25 pm : link
In comment 15919043 nygiants16 said:
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Nope. When it comes to players actually missing the game, it's not even close.
We can't even use Dlinemen  
jvm52106 : 11/23/2022 1:28 pm : link
in the jumbo package as we are too thin there too.
so  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/23/2022 1:31 pm : link
let me get this straight...

Lemieux, who never missed a game in college, comes here and turns into China Doll.

He misses most of the season with a toe injury, comes back, and can't play more than half a game before his toe is injured again (I'm assuming it is the same toe). Because of that (and/or his terrible performance), Ezeudu comes into the game with a neck injury and then proceeds to make that worse.

Do I have that right?
Is Lemieux injured or just inactive?  
sb from NYT Forum : 11/23/2022 1:31 pm : link
...Either way I am glad he won't be playing. Whether he's incredibly raw or just sucks, the bottom line is that he's a net negative when on the field right now.
Eric: As down as we all are on Barnes and his crew...  
Big Blue Blogger : 11/23/2022 1:32 pm : link
... I disagree about blaming them for Lemieux. Based on when he was designated (11/7), they appear to have had a timeline for his return: Week 13. The coaches probably asked for a risk assessment on a Week 11 return, because SL looked OK in practice and Ezeudu was dinged. The coaches and the player decided to take that risk. Barnes bears some responsibility, but the available information suggests that the medical staff had it right the first time - or at least more right than the decision to activate Lemieux early might suggest.
RE: Man this game seems like it's gonna be awful  
Carson53 : 11/23/2022 1:34 pm : link
In comment 15919021 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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On the surface.
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Just very bad timing with the injuries.
It would have been a tough game if they were healthy too.
Playing down there on Thanksgiving, tough to do.
RE: Eric: As down as we all are on Barnes and his crew...  
sb from NYT Forum : 11/23/2022 1:35 pm : link
In comment 15919084 Big Blue Blogger said:
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... I disagree about blaming them for Lemieux. Based on when he was designated (11/7), they appear to have had a timeline for his return: Week 13. The coaches probably asked for a risk assessment on a Week 11 return, because SL looked OK in practice and Ezeudu was dinged. The coaches and the player decided to take that risk. Barnes bears some responsibility, but the available information suggests that the medical staff had it right the first time - or at least more right than the decision to activate Lemieux early might suggest.


If he did re-injure his toe, that is very similar to what happened last year with his patellar tear. They put him out there in Game 1 and he lasted all of 10 snaps before he re-injured it and was out for the year.
RE: so  
AcidTest : 11/23/2022 1:35 pm : link
In comment 15919081 Eric from BBI said:
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let me get this straight...

Lemieux, who never missed a game in college, comes here and turns into China Doll.

He misses most of the season with a toe injury, comes back, and can't play more than half a game before his toe is injured again (I'm assuming it is the same toe). Because of that (and/or his terrible performance), Ezeudu comes into the game with a neck injury and then proceeds to make that worse.

Do I have that right?


Yes, that's right.

The Giants are a MASH unit. Again.
RE: If Daniel Jones  
Bill in UT : 11/23/2022 1:35 pm : link
In comment 15919067 Sammo85 said:
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can win this game, I'll give him his new contract on the plane ride home.


Seriously, I'm concerned about Jones surviving the game- not getting injured or really beat up. I don't see any running game at all to help him out.
RE: Eric: As down as we all are on Barnes and his crew...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/23/2022 1:36 pm : link
In comment 15919084 Big Blue Blogger said:
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... I disagree about blaming them for Lemieux. Based on when he was designated (11/7), they appear to have had a timeline for his return: Week 13. The coaches probably asked for a risk assessment on a Week 11 return, because SL looked OK in practice and Ezeudu was dinged. The coaches and the player decided to take that risk. Barnes bears some responsibility, but the available information suggests that the medical staff had it right the first time - or at least more right than the decision to activate Lemieux early might suggest.


BBB... I've never bought into Barnes being the cause of injuries because he deals with injuries AFTER the fact. My guess is the root cause lies with turf and training practices (I've said for years these guys are too ripped).

BUT... if a player comes back with an injury and immediately proceeds to re-injure that same injury, I put that more on the training staff. If this is Lemieux's same toe issue, he obviously came back too soon (BTW, didn't the Giants do this with Lemieux last year too? He had a knee injury. Rather than have the surgery, he came back and immediately made it worse?)
This has all the makings of pain vs Cost Rica  
Sec 103 : 11/23/2022 1:37 pm : link
Damn !
As for the soundness of the strength and conditioning program...  
Big Blue Blogger : 11/23/2022 1:39 pm : link
...or the team's medical services, I have no clue. The circumstantial evidence is obviously grim.
RE: RE: If Daniel Jones  
broadbandz : 11/23/2022 1:42 pm : link
In comment 15919088 Bill in UT said:
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In comment 15919067 Sammo85 said:


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can win this game, I'll give him his new contract on the plane ride home.



Seriously, I'm concerned about Jones surviving the game- not getting injured or really beat up. I don't see any running game at all to help him out.


you know half the posters on bbi see this as a good thing. Anything to validate how they felt on 2019 draft night.
And Eric's point about this happening twice with Lemieux is valid.  
Big Blue Blogger : 11/23/2022 1:43 pm : link
Whether he re-injured the knee in the 2021 opener or simply couldn't perform and got shut down, it's not a good look.
RE: RE: If Daniel Jones  
jvm52106 : 11/23/2022 1:44 pm : link
In comment 15919088 Bill in UT said:
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In comment 15919067 Sammo85 said:


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can win this game, I'll give him his new contract on the plane ride home.



Seriously, I'm concerned about Jones surviving the game- not getting injured or really beat up. I don't see any running game at all to help him out.


I think we need to go to 2 and possibly three back lineups and use option like plays and or even wildcat formations.. We cannot go back and hope to pass on this Cowboys front and their playmaking DB's.

Our season comes down to:

12/4 - Washington
12/11- Philadelphia
12/18- @ Washington
12/24- @ Minnesota
01/01- Indianapolis
01/08- @ Philadelphia

We have to win 3 games in there somewhere and to do that we MUST be healthier. Take this week as a loss and play as many backups as you can.

Giants Wide Receiving corps needs to be Golladay, Hodgins, Sils- we need all the blocking help we can get with James and maybe Johnson.

Good News: The Giants are likely to face Philly's backups in Week 18.  
Big Blue Blogger : 11/23/2022 1:48 pm : link
Bad news: At this rate, the Giants will field their second string too - and not because the game is meaningless.
Any of you guys ready to play on short notice?  
mfsd : 11/23/2022 1:52 pm : link
My knees wouldn’t last long, but I could help cover a kick or two if needed

Good grief with these injuries
Sacrificial game.  
section125 : 11/23/2022 2:03 pm : link
They are getting people rested for the following week.

Probably not even worth watching..
Holy Shit  
UberAlias : 11/23/2022 2:06 pm : link
Does anyone ever get healthy on this team?
mfsd: I fumbled my first snap in high school...  
Big Blue Blogger : 11/23/2022 2:07 pm : link
... and was promptly moved from QB to WR, where I was equally bad but less conspicuous.

What I'm saying is: I'd fit right in too. Meet you at DFW, we can split an Uber to Jerry's Place.
Sounds like they ll have call ups from the PS and we may see  
Blue21 : 11/23/2022 2:14 pm : link
8 Olineman on the line a lot obviously excluding our TEs
Welp  
Cap'n Bluebeard : 11/23/2022 2:14 pm : link
Maybe if I get high enough, I'll think this is just a really funny hallucination.

Thank god for edibles.
RE: Ugh  
joeinpa : 11/23/2022 2:15 pm : link
In comment 15919027 Drewcon40 said:
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just heard the same - let's hope we can hang in there and keep the game close. Maybe the injury luck will turn in our favor when we have a favorable roster in the coming years.


If Giants keep this game close it will be remarkable
RE: Sounds like they ll have call ups from the PS and we may see  
Big Blue Blogger : 11/23/2022 2:20 pm : link
Blue21 said:
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8 Olineman on the line a lot obviously excluding our TEs

We won't know until 4pm whether the Giants will even have eight linemen in uniform. It's possible if they elevate both Kindley and Cunningham. (Sorry Solomon - I misspelled your name above.)
M.S. one of my favorites from Larry Verne  
Clearwater Joe : 11/23/2022 2:29 pm : link
along with Johnny Horton's Battle of New Orleans
I  
mitch300 : 11/23/2022 2:29 pm : link
Thought Neal was close to coming back like two weeks ago. WTF.
RE: If Daniel Jones  
noro9 : 11/23/2022 2:33 pm : link
In comment 15919067 Sammo85 said:
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can win this game, I'll give him his new contract on the plane ride home.

If he can finish the game.....
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