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5BowlsSoon : 11/23/2022 9:04 pm
Tomorrow should be the game that you have been waiting for.

Dimes probably will have a horrible game, get sacked 10 times, probably fumble at least once after getting creamed, probably throw multiple interceptions under intense pressure, and most importantly, he will probably only lead the team to single digits on the scoreboard.

Sleep well fellows….your prayers are probably about to be answered.
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Ten Ton Hammer : 11/23/2022 9:06 pm : link
....okay?
Next Up in 2023 . . .  
OntheRoad : 11/23/2022 9:09 pm : link

the new Zach Wilson. I'm sure he will be an improvement.
You Should Delete  
Samiam : 11/23/2022 9:12 pm : link
Posting a thread like this is probably an indicator of a serious need for psychiatric help.
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broadbandz : 11/23/2022 9:15 pm : link
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Posting a thread like this is probably an indicator of a serious need for psychiatric help.


is it? this is the same BBI that made a thread about Jones brother 90 percent of the posts were shitting on him. Not a single place on the internet hates Jones more than bbi.
Jones has no shot in this game  
Ned In Atlanta : 11/23/2022 9:26 pm : link
Previously it was largely due to Dave Gettlemans complete and utter incompetence when it came to roster construction and coach hiring. Now it’s due to horrible luck and the Met Life turf. I’m open to them keeping him, or moving on if they have another long term plan. But I’ve seen enough to be encouraged at the idea of him coming back with new, hopefully non ACL tearing turf at Met Life, another year in the system, and a competent regime making smart off-season decisions
What if they pull a rabbit out of a hat  
mattlawson : 11/23/2022 9:26 pm : link
And somehow win.
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outeiroj : 11/23/2022 9:31 pm : link
I believe it's sad that there are more "fans" rooting for his failure than something just clicking and him becoming a star.

Which is odd, because he has more heart than most who lace up on a weekly basis and from everything posted from media and coaches he's a genuinely great human being
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ajr2456 : 11/23/2022 9:36 pm : link
In comment 15919433 outeiroj said:
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I believe it's sad that there are more "fans" rooting for his failure than something just clicking and him becoming a star.

Which is odd, because he has more heart than most who lace up on a weekly basis and from everything posted from media and coaches he's a genuinely great human being


Nobody is rooting for his failure. Everyone here wants the Giants to win
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5BowlsSoon : 11/23/2022 9:54 pm : link
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I believe it's sad that there are more "fans" rooting for his failure than something just clicking and him becoming a star.

Which is odd, because he has more heart than most who lace up on a weekly basis and from everything posted from media and coaches he's a genuinely great human being



Nobody is rooting for his failure. Everyone here wants the Giants to win


That is debatable (some guys always want higher draft picks)…..nevertheless, does everyone want Jones to flourish/succeed?

Don’t kid yourself…the vultures are circling the field….
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Chris in Philly : 11/23/2022 10:04 pm : link
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I believe it's sad that there are more "fans" rooting for his failure than something just clicking and him becoming a star.

Which is odd, because he has more heart than most who lace up on a weekly basis and from everything posted from media and coaches he's a genuinely great human being



Nobody is rooting for his failure. Everyone here wants the Giants to win


That is absurd. There are a number of people that would rather be “right” than for the team to win.
This is sarcasm  
gtt350 : 11/23/2022 10:08 pm : link
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jvm52106 : 11/23/2022 10:46 pm : link
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I believe it's sad that there are more "fans" rooting for his failure than something just clicking and him becoming a star.

Which is odd, because he has more heart than most who lace up on a weekly basis and from everything posted from media and coaches he's a genuinely great human being



Nobody is rooting for his failure. Everyone here wants the Giants to win



That is absurd. There are a number of people that would rather be “right” than for the team to win.


Agreed.. Many talk (or did in the past) about how shitty the roster was then openly say a different QB would make this roster so much better not long afterward. A number of posters here want this team to fail to confirm their loud proclamation s that Jones sucks..
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Ten Ton Hammer : 11/23/2022 11:19 pm : link
There are just as many vultures wearing "8" jerseys circling waiting to use one result or one stat to push their point that their evaluation is correct.

You don't want to hear anything bad, so anyone that doesn't follow is clearly "rooting for failure".
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Johnny5 : 11/23/2022 11:30 pm : link
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There are just as many vultures wearing "8" jerseys circling waiting to use one result or one stat to push their point that their evaluation is correct.

You don't want to hear anything bad, so anyone that doesn't follow is clearly "rooting for failure".

Bullshit. It is way more the opposite.
What we really want gone are the people who Danny Dimes!  
Jack Stroud : 11/23/2022 11:36 pm : link
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I'm in the  
allstarjim : 11/23/2022 11:51 pm : link
Team Sceptic camp when it comes to DJ, and nothing would please me more than to see him throw for 500 yards and 6 TDs tomorrow.

Yes, I realize that with what the OL and receiver corps they are currently rolling out, that is a complete pipe dream, but nonetheless, I am rooting for his success.
I should add  
allstarjim : 11/23/2022 11:54 pm : link
That even though he will very likely have an abysmal performance, there is no way I'm going to be putting results on him given the circumstances.
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GMen72 : 11/24/2022 12:48 am : link
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I believe it's sad that there are more "fans" rooting for his failure than something just clicking and him becoming a star.

Which is odd, because he has more heart than most who lace up on a weekly basis and from everything posted from media and coaches he's a genuinely great human being



Nobody is rooting for his failure. Everyone here wants the Giants to win



That is absurd. There are a number of people that would rather be “right” than for the team to win.



Agreed.. Many talk (or did in the past) about how shitty the roster was then openly say a different QB would make this roster so much better not long afterward. A number of posters here want this team to fail to confirm their loud proclamation s that Jones sucks..


I don't want Jones to suck and I enjoy every win. I just don't want the Giants to tag him, give him a longterm deal, or more than $12-15 million on a 1 year deal. He's a game manager.

DJ will throw for 175 yards and a TD tomorrow and the Giants will score 17-20 points, just like he/they always does/do.

A preemptive excuse thread...very impressive fanboys!
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outeiroj : 11/24/2022 1:39 am : link
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I believe it's sad that there are more "fans" rooting for his failure than something just clicking and him becoming a star.

Which is odd, because he has more heart than most who lace up on a weekly basis and from everything posted from media and coaches he's a genuinely great human being



Nobody is rooting for his failure. Everyone here wants the Giants to win



That is absurd. There are a number of people that would rather be “right” than for the team to win.



Agreed.. Many talk (or did in the past) about how shitty the roster was then openly say a different QB would make this roster so much better not long afterward. A number of posters here want this team to fail to confirm their loud proclamation s that Jones sucks..



I don't want Jones to suck and I enjoy every win. I just don't want the Giants to tag him, give him a longterm deal, or more than $12-15 million on a 1 year deal. He's a game manager.

DJ will throw for 175 yards and a TD tomorrow and the Giants will score 17-20 points, just like he/they always does/do.

A preemptive excuse thread...very impressive fanboys!


You just contradicted yourself. A real Giants fan would want him to start playing lights out and be the longer term solution for the next 10 years and earn a 40/m a year contract

I learned my lesson. I watched the Ravens destroy an rookie Eli and thought to myself this guy isnt it. I was wrong, and Im glad i was wrong.

Good luck DJ, im rooting for ya
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GMen72 : 11/24/2022 2:42 am : link
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I believe it's sad that there are more "fans" rooting for his failure than something just clicking and him becoming a star.

Which is odd, because he has more heart than most who lace up on a weekly basis and from everything posted from media and coaches he's a genuinely great human being



Nobody is rooting for his failure. Everyone here wants the Giants to win



That is absurd. There are a number of people that would rather be “right” than for the team to win.



Agreed.. Many talk (or did in the past) about how shitty the roster was then openly say a different QB would make this roster so much better not long afterward. A number of posters here want this team to fail to confirm their loud proclamation s that Jones sucks..



I don't want Jones to suck and I enjoy every win. I just don't want the Giants to tag him, give him a longterm deal, or more than $12-15 million on a 1 year deal. He's a game manager.

DJ will throw for 175 yards and a TD tomorrow and the Giants will score 17-20 points, just like he/they always does/do.

A preemptive excuse thread...very impressive fanboys!



You just contradicted yourself. A real Giants fan would want him to start playing lights out and be the longer term solution for the next 10 years and earn a 40/m a year contract

I learned my lesson. I watched the Ravens destroy an rookie Eli and thought to myself this guy isnt it. I was wrong, and Im glad i was wrong.

Good luck DJ, im rooting for ya


Nah, DJ is what he is. I want to see the Giants win another Super Bowl...DJ isn't that guy. Rookie Eli isn't the same thing as year 4 DJ, some fans forget that.
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outeiroj : 11/24/2022 3:01 am : link
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I believe it's sad that there are more "fans" rooting for his failure than something just clicking and him becoming a star.

Which is odd, because he has more heart than most who lace up on a weekly basis and from everything posted from media and coaches he's a genuinely great human being



Nobody is rooting for his failure. Everyone here wants the Giants to win



That is absurd. There are a number of people that would rather be “right” than for the team to win.



Agreed.. Many talk (or did in the past) about how shitty the roster was then openly say a different QB would make this roster so much better not long afterward. A number of posters here want this team to fail to confirm their loud proclamation s that Jones sucks..



I don't want Jones to suck and I enjoy every win. I just don't want the Giants to tag him, give him a longterm deal, or more than $12-15 million on a 1 year deal. He's a game manager.

DJ will throw for 175 yards and a TD tomorrow and the Giants will score 17-20 points, just like he/they always does/do.

A preemptive excuse thread...very impressive fanboys!



You just contradicted yourself. A real Giants fan would want him to start playing lights out and be the longer term solution for the next 10 years and earn a 40/m a year contract

I learned my lesson. I watched the Ravens destroy an rookie Eli and thought to myself this guy isnt it. I was wrong, and Im glad i was wrong.

Good luck DJ, im rooting for ya



Nah, DJ is what he is. I want to see the Giants win another Super Bowl...DJ isn't that guy. Rookie Eli isn't the same thing as year 4 DJ, some fans forget that.


you're right... Eli had a much better team around him. 3 pro browl oline man, a pro bowl tight end, the most reliable receiver in giants history and what another 5 pro bowlers on defense?

RB Tiki Barber
FB Jim Finn
WR Ike Hilliard
WR Amani Toomer
TE Jeremy Shockey
LT Luke Petitgout
LG Jason Whittle
C Shaun O'Hara
RG Chris Snee
RT David Diehl

LDE Michael Strahan
LDT Norman Hand
RDT Fred Robbins
RDE Keith Washington
LLB Carlos Emmons
MLB Kevin Lewis
RLB Barrett Green
LCB Will Allen
RCB Will Peterson
SS Gibril Wilson

a real giants fan would want to see the kid be great. your a fucking poser.
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GMen72 : 11/24/2022 3:13 am : link
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I believe it's sad that there are more "fans" rooting for his failure than something just clicking and him becoming a star.

Which is odd, because he has more heart than most who lace up on a weekly basis and from everything posted from media and coaches he's a genuinely great human being



Nobody is rooting for his failure. Everyone here wants the Giants to win



That is absurd. There are a number of people that would rather be “right” than for the team to win.



Agreed.. Many talk (or did in the past) about how shitty the roster was then openly say a different QB would make this roster so much better not long afterward. A number of posters here want this team to fail to confirm their loud proclamation s that Jones sucks..



I don't want Jones to suck and I enjoy every win. I just don't want the Giants to tag him, give him a longterm deal, or more than $12-15 million on a 1 year deal. He's a game manager.

DJ will throw for 175 yards and a TD tomorrow and the Giants will score 17-20 points, just like he/they always does/do.

A preemptive excuse thread...very impressive fanboys!



You just contradicted yourself. A real Giants fan would want him to start playing lights out and be the longer term solution for the next 10 years and earn a 40/m a year contract

I learned my lesson. I watched the Ravens destroy an rookie Eli and thought to myself this guy isnt it. I was wrong, and Im glad i was wrong.

Good luck DJ, im rooting for ya



Nah, DJ is what he is. I want to see the Giants win another Super Bowl...DJ isn't that guy. Rookie Eli isn't the same thing as year 4 DJ, some fans forget that.



you're right... Eli had a much better team around him. 3 pro browl oline man, a pro bowl tight end, the most reliable receiver in giants history and what another 5 pro bowlers on defense?

RB Tiki Barber
FB Jim Finn
WR Ike Hilliard
WR Amani Toomer
TE Jeremy Shockey
LT Luke Petitgout
LG Jason Whittle
C Shaun O'Hara
RG Chris Snee
RT David Diehl

LDE Michael Strahan
LDT Norman Hand
RDT Fred Robbins
RDE Keith Washington
LLB Carlos Emmons
MLB Kevin Lewis
RLB Barrett Green
LCB Will Allen
RCB Will Peterson
SS Gibril Wilson

a real giants fan would want to see the kid be great. your a fucking poser.


Eli threw TDs too and his team scored points. A real Giants fan would want the team to be great, not one player. At the end of the day, the best things about DJ are the excuses his biggest fans make...it sure isn't his production on the field.

We'll find out in a few months. Agree to disagree.
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LakeGeorgeGiant : 11/24/2022 3:15 am : link
In comment 15919433 outeiroj said:
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I believe it's sad that there are more "fans" rooting for his failure than something just clicking and him becoming a star.

Which is odd, because he has more heart than most who lace up on a weekly basis and from everything posted from media and coaches he's a genuinely great human being


Enough with this crap. Nobody wants him to fail.
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outeiroj : 11/24/2022 4:09 am : link
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I believe it's sad that there are more "fans" rooting for his failure than something just clicking and him becoming a star.

Which is odd, because he has more heart than most who lace up on a weekly basis and from everything posted from media and coaches he's a genuinely great human being



Enough with this crap. Nobody wants him to fail.


Your either illiterate or fucking stupid if you don’t notice the DJ threads of people rooting for him to fail

DJ success = Giants success
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Blueworm : 11/24/2022 6:03 am : link
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I believe it's sad that there are more "fans" rooting for his failure than something just clicking and him becoming a star.

Which is odd, because he has more heart than most who lace up on a weekly basis and from everything posted from media and coaches he's a genuinely great human being



Enough with this crap. Nobody wants him to fail.

By not clearing up the question in four years, he has failed.
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5BowlsSoon : 11/24/2022 6:55 am : link
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I believe it's sad that there are more "fans" rooting for his failure than something just clicking and him becoming a star.

Which is odd, because he has more heart than most who lace up on a weekly basis and from everything posted from media and coaches he's a genuinely great human being



Enough with this crap. Nobody wants him to fail.


Lol….were you an ostrich in your previous life?
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5BowlsSoon : 11/24/2022 7:01 am : link
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I believe it's sad that there are more "fans" rooting for his failure than something just clicking and him becoming a star.

Which is odd, because he has more heart than most who lace up on a weekly basis and from everything posted from media and coaches he's a genuinely great human being



Enough with this crap. Nobody wants him to fail.


By not clearing up the question in four years, he has failed.


Come on fellow….how can you hold the last year and a half against him with Judge/Garrett leading him? Clearly, he got much better with the turnover problem he was having. Why can’t you give him that?

And besides, he wasn’t that bad last year…I believe he was 4-6 and then got hurt in the Dallas game and came out with the score tied. We went on to lose of course. 4-6 wasn’t too shabby considering the surrounding cast and considering we didn’t win another game without him.
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Dukie Dimes : 11/24/2022 7:01 am : link
In comment 15919460 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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There are just as many vultures wearing "8" jerseys circling waiting to use one result or one stat to push their point that their evaluation is correct.

You don't want to hear anything bad, so anyone that doesn't follow is clearly "rooting for failure".


The problem with this argument is that both sides AREN’T equal. You SHOULD be supporting your team and your QB. That’s what normal fans do. I’ve discovered the giants fans are anything but normal.
5 Bowls  
joeinpa : 11/24/2022 7:16 am : link
It might be true a few posters here root more to be right than for the Giants to win, who cares.

They have absolutely no impact on what the team finally decides on Daniel.

This is a fan forum with a variety of fans. A lot of them are fun to engage with especially on the Jones thing (unless they are being obtuse, which I also sometimes am)

I watch Daniel play and I see a good player. But truth is unless I had the opportunity to sit with the coaches and watch game film with them I ve no idea what they think of him, his critics don’t either.

Here s what I do know: Watching the games hoping he plays great, they win, and my consistent support of him turns out to be correct, has to be more fun than the opposite, if there are fans really hoping for his failure; why concern yourself with them?
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5BowlsSoon : 11/24/2022 7:19 am : link
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There are just as many vultures wearing "8" jerseys circling waiting to use one result or one stat to push their point that their evaluation is correct.

You don't want to hear anything bad, so anyone that doesn't follow is clearly "rooting for failure".



The problem with this argument is that both sides AREN’T equal. You SHOULD be supporting your team and your QB. That’s what normal fans do. I’ve discovered the giants fans are anything but normal.


Bingo….last week was a good example. Jones played hard all game…ran for a TD threw for one…had over 330 yards passing since he had to throw….but he basically made one bad pass with the score 24-6 and the vultures came out in full force.

Here is how I know someone is a VULTURE….pay attention….if the only thing a “fan” says about a player is TO FIND FAULT, and never-rarely shares the positive stuff in that player….they are a vulture.

Like I said, there was much positive from Jones last week. 330 yds with two drops, a dropped two point conversion and Two TDs….yet if all you want to talk about is that one play at 24-6….you are a VULTURE and don’t kid yourself because you are not kidding me…you want Jones to fail because for years you have bad mouthed him and believe he should be gone. Maybe he should be gone, but I believe it is still wrong to rejoice in his failure ESPECIALLY when you never to rarely praise him for the good things he does too. Saquon got 22 on 15 carries and I hardly heard a word of criticism his way.

F*** all the vultures out there, and you know who you are.
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Jim in Tampa : 11/24/2022 7:20 am : link
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I believe it's sad that there are more "fans" rooting for his failure than something just clicking and him becoming a star.

Which is odd, because he has more heart than most who lace up on a weekly basis and from everything posted from media and coaches he's a genuinely great human being



Enough with this crap. Nobody wants him to fail.



Your either illiterate or fucking stupid if you don’t notice the DJ threads of people rooting for him to fail

DJ success = Giants success

First of all, "your" illiterate is comedy gold. You can't call someone else illiterate when basic English escapes you.

But to the main point of this thread, just because some fans are critical of Jones and want him to be replaced at QB, doesn't mean, they're rooting against him or the Giants. It only means that they don't think he's the one that can raise the Lombardi, so they want to move on when the right opportunity presents itself.

The reason we are here on BBI is because we are ALL diehard Giants fans who bleed blue and want what's best for OUR team. Nobody is going to root against the Giants just to be proven "right" (whatever that means) on a message board.

And a final note to the thread starter and all the other "DJ should never be criticized" posters... Stop playing the victim role just because other people have a different take on whether keeping DJ is the right move for the Giants.
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section125 : 11/24/2022 7:26 am : link
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That even though he will very likely have an abysmal performance, there is no way I'm going to be putting results on him given the circumstances.


What is going to happen tomorrow will not be his abysmal performance. It will be a team abysmal performance. They will start the 3rd/4th LG, 2nd C, 1st RG, 3rd/4th RT while the LT is under the weather...
The best WR barely made the team and sat for basically the 1st 4 games. Those starting behind him were either PS members until 3 games ago or benched until injuries brought them back.
They have two NFL quality DTs, the ILB are castoffs, the top CBs are the 4th and 5th string, the FS is a barely capable rookie.
If they keep this to a 21 point game it will be a major accomplishment.
The premise of this thread doesn’t make sense  
Sean : 11/24/2022 7:30 am : link
Daniel Jones is a free agent after the season. The debate isn’t about “wanting him gone”, the debate is whether he should be resigned and at what cost. It’s a huge decision that so many seem to ignore like he’s under contract next year.

Tyrod Taylor is the only QB under contract next season.
This place fucking suuuuucks  
CooperDash : 11/24/2022 7:32 am : link
Yes, people root for him to fail because they’d rather be right than be proved wrong. If you don’t think that’s the case, then open your fucking eyes to how society has changed around this. And very publicly.

“I want a generational QB” - like they just grow on trees? Then what will you do? Develop him? Put a good team around him? What a novel fucking idea. Why not do that with the good QB we already have?

Jones has been dealt a shit sandwich every year with coaching and surrounding talent. He finally gets a competent coaching staff and leads the team to a 7-3 record so far? With zero weapons outside of Barkley, sometimes?

I like DJ, but maybe he’s better off leaving because playing for this shitstain fanbase has to suck for him.
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christian : 11/24/2022 7:41 am : link
If there are so many posters openly rooting for Jones to fail, name them and site examples.
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eli4life : 11/24/2022 8:16 am : link
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I believe it's sad that there are more "fans" rooting for his failure than something just clicking and him becoming a star.

Which is odd, because he has more heart than most who lace up on a weekly basis and from everything posted from media and coaches he's a genuinely great human being



Nobody is rooting for his failure. Everyone here wants the Giants to win



That is absurd. There are a number of people that would rather be “right” than for the team to win.


+1000
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eli4life : 11/24/2022 8:22 am : link
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If there are so many posters openly rooting for Jones to fail, name them and site examples.


So you’re saying over the last year and a half EVERY thread didn’t turn into a Danny Jones sucks thread? It could be a thread on how the grass is purple and somehow it was Jones fault and he sucks
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christian : 11/24/2022 8:39 am : link
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If there are so many posters openly rooting for Jones to fail, name them and site examples.



So you’re saying over the last year and a half EVERY thread didn’t turn into a Danny Jones sucks thread? It could be a thread on how the grass is purple and somehow it was Jones fault and he sucks


No, what I'm asking for are examples of posters and threads of people openly rooting for Jones to fail. Can you point me to those?
With the team the Giants are putting on the field today  
Giant John : 11/24/2022 8:51 am : link
Mahomes couldn’t help the outcome. I am very concerned about DJ and Saquon coming out of this game without sever injury.
RE: The premise of this thread doesn’t make sense  
Producer : 11/24/2022 8:51 am : link
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Daniel Jones is a free agent after the season. The debate isn’t about “wanting him gone”, the debate is whether he should be resigned and at what cost. It’s a huge decision that so many seem to ignore like he’s under contract next year.

Tyrod Taylor is the only QB under contract next season.


The entire point of thos thread is to innoculate Jones against criticism for a poor performance. They seem to have little faith he'll be good today.
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Scooter185 : 11/24/2022 8:51 am : link
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If there are so many posters openly rooting for Jones to fail, name them and site examples.



So you’re saying over the last year and a half EVERY thread didn’t turn into a Danny Jones sucks thread? It could be a thread on how the grass is purple and somehow it was Jones fault and he sucks


Believing Jones isn't the guy is not the same as rooting for him to fail, but the gatekeeping segment of posters who look through their no-true-scotsman lens conflate lack of belief in Jones with hating the Giants
I put DJ in the “good” column.  
Giant John : 11/24/2022 8:54 am : link
Not one of the greats but better than most playing today. What box doesn’t he check? None I can see. Not his fault the offensive roster has sucked his entire career.
RE: RE: Simultaneously,  
ajr2456 : 11/24/2022 8:59 am : link
In comment 15919524 Dukie Dimes said:
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There are just as many vultures wearing "8" jerseys circling waiting to use one result or one stat to push their point that their evaluation is correct.

You don't want to hear anything bad, so anyone that doesn't follow is clearly "rooting for failure".



The problem with this argument is that both sides AREN’T equal. You SHOULD be supporting your team and your QB. That’s what normal fans do. I’ve discovered the giants fans are anything but normal.


I root for the Giants to win, go to as many home games as possible but think they should move on from Jones. What’s the problem? I
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christian : 11/24/2022 9:04 am : link
The preemptive excuse making is pretty obvious.

I expect Jones to have a good game today. His ankle looked a lot better on Sunday, and when he's had his wheels under him, he's played well this season.

He's probably the second best offensive player on the field today, the Giants need him to step up.
RE: ...  
Returning Video Tapes : 11/24/2022 9:22 am : link
In comment 15919584 christian said:
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The preemptive excuse making is pretty obvious.

I expect Jones to have a good game today. His ankle looked a lot better on Sunday, and when he's had his wheels under him, he's played well this season.

He's probably the second best offensive player on the field today, the Giants need him to step up.


Jones played well last time we played Dallas and we still barely had a chance. Now add in the injuries…..

It’s hardly preemptive excuse making, it’s just facing reality. If the Giants somehow pull a win out of today and score more than 23 pts (honestly have no idea how the defense is gonna keep them under 27 so it will probably take more)….they should be sitting down with him and Saquons team to figure out a deal.
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christian : 11/24/2022 9:24 am : link
The OP is classic preemptive, cry baby excuse making.
RE: RE:  
5BowlsSoon : 11/24/2022 9:52 am : link
In comment 15919529 Jim in Tampa said:
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I believe it's sad that there are more "fans" rooting for his failure than something just clicking and him becoming a star.

Which is odd, because he has more heart than most who lace up on a weekly basis and from everything posted from media and coaches he's a genuinely great human being



Enough with this crap. Nobody wants him to fail.



Your either illiterate or fucking stupid if you don’t notice the DJ threads of people rooting for him to fail

DJ success = Giants success


First of all, "your" illiterate is comedy gold. You can't call someone else illiterate when basic English escapes you.

But to the main point of this thread, just because some fans are critical of Jones and want him to be replaced at QB, doesn't mean, they're rooting against him or the Giants. It only means that they don't think he's the one that can raise the Lombardi, so they want to move on when the right opportunity presents itself.

The reason we are here on BBI is because we are ALL diehard Giants fans who bleed blue and want what's best for OUR team. Nobody is going to root against the Giants just to be proven "right" (whatever that means) on a message board.

And a final note to the thread starter and all the other "DJ should never be criticized" posters... Stop playing the victim role just because other people have a different take on whether keeping DJ is the right move for the Giants.
RE: JIM IN tampa  
5BowlsSoon : 11/24/2022 9:53 am : link
In comment 15919529 Jim in Tampa said:
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I believe it's sad that there are more "fans" rooting for his failure than something just clicking and him becoming a star.

Which is odd, because he has more heart than most who lace up on a weekly basis and from everything posted from media and coaches he's a genuinely great human being



Enough with this crap. Nobody wants him to fail.



Your either illiterate or fucking stupid if you don’t notice the DJ threads of people rooting for him to fail

DJ success = Giants success


First of all, "your" illiterate is comedy gold. You can't call someone else illiterate when basic English escapes you.

But to the main point of this thread, just because some fans are critical of Jones and want him to be replaced at QB, doesn't mean, they're rooting against him or the Giants. It only means that they don't think he's the one that can raise the Lombardi, so they want to move on when the right opportunity presents itself.

The reason we are here on BBI is because we are ALL diehard Giants fans who bleed blue and want what's best for OUR team. Nobody is going to root against the Giants just to be proven "right" (whatever that means) on a message board.

And a final note to the thread starter and all the other "DJ should never be criticized" posters... Stop playing the victim role just because other people have a different take on whether keeping DJ is the right move for the Giants.


I believe you were the one who gave me the link to watch Giant games when I don’t live in the area. I WILL NOT FIND FAULT OR CRITICIZE ANYTHING YOU SAY….YOU ARE MY HERO.
RE: ...  
BigBlueShock : 11/24/2022 9:55 am : link
In comment 15919537 christian said:
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If there are so many posters openly rooting for Jones to fail, name them and site examples.

This thread is stupid. However posters aren’t going to OPENLY root for Jones to fail. They would never admit that. And I don’t believe they are rooting for Jones to fail simply so they can say they were “right”. Hell, saying they are rooting for him to fail is likely a stretch as well but I do believe that several posters have made their minds up that Jones isn’t any good, will never be the long term answer and are petrified of him playing well enough to get an extension. They may not be rooting for Jones to fail, but they are perfectly ok with him not playing well enough to get that extension and if it results in losses, then so be it. Them getting to run to BBI to say “I told you so, see how smart I am?” Is just another nice perk of that result for them, but not the driving force, imo
RE: This place fucking suuuuucks  
5BowlsSoon : 11/24/2022 9:58 am : link
In comment 15919536 CooperDash said:
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Yes, people root for him to fail because they’d rather be right than be proved wrong. If you don’t think that’s the case, then open your fucking eyes to how society has changed around this. And very publicly.

“I want a generational QB” - like they just grow on trees? Then what will you do? Develop him? Put a good team around him? What a novel fucking idea. Why not do that with the good QB we already have?

Jones has been dealt a shit sandwich every year with coaching and surrounding talent. He finally gets a competent coaching staff and leads the team to a 7-3 record so far? With zero weapons outside of Barkley, sometimes?

I like DJ, but maybe he’s better off leaving because playing for this shitstain fanbase has to suck for him.


Hey Coop…every time I see your handle I crack up….maybe this is obvious, but what made you choose it?
They won't openly post  
Lines of Scrimmage : 11/24/2022 10:06 am : link
about that but for a few it will be subtly implied with words.

Who really cares. The ones who have always been against him aren't going to change.

Saw the same thing with Eli starting in 2013 and that was for a two time SB MVP. One of the worst drafting teams in the league from 2008-17 and a few dopes found him the biggest problem.
Believe it or Not - Still Hard to Pigeonhole DJ  
Bob in Newburgh : 11/24/2022 10:08 am : link
Yes - 4th year here

Never - Anything close to an Alpha receiver
Anything close to multiple #2 receivers
Anything close to a sit back and survey field o-line

Without the above, it is impossible to know what DJ ceiling is. Going with Tyrod is an idiot's plan. None of the draft candidates (if we could even get to their spot) appear to have the ability to work with nothing. There can be no risk-free plan.
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christian : 11/24/2022 10:13 am : link
Some of the most active, and pessimistic posters regarding Jones on this site historically have been me, Sean, BW, and JonC.

And we've all been complimentary and surprised by how well Jones has played, even if we all have misgivings about giving him a lucrative multi-year contract.

So for real -- who are the posters who are part of this secret cabal waiting in the wings, rooting for Jones to fail? Name a single poster you all believe is part of this group. It should be easy if it's such a ubiquitous sentiment on this site.
Well  
RicFlair : 11/24/2022 10:14 am : link
They didn’t say it, but I know they thought it.


Lol.
Well .....  
River Mike : 11/24/2022 10:21 am : link
"Trevor Lawrence, Zach Wilson, Trey Lance, Justin Fields and Mac Jones headlined a 2021 quarterback draft class heralded as one of the deepest and most talent-rich in NFL history.
But after rookie seasons that featured varying degrees of both success and inconsistencies, all five quarterbacks have encountered struggles in Year 2. As a result, their teams continue to wait for a return on their draft day investments, and it remains to be seen if any of the five will become transcendent players."

The Atlantic
The draft is a crap shoot.

RE: Well  
5BowlsSoon : 11/24/2022 10:24 am : link
In comment 15919646 RicFlair said:
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They didn’t say it, but I know they thought it.


Lol.


WOOOOOOOOO!

I’m surprised he omitted Go Terps and Mike from Ohio. I would have definitely had both in the top 10.:
RE: Well  
christian : 11/24/2022 10:26 am : link
In comment 15919646 RicFlair said:
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They didn’t say it, but I know they thought it.


Lol.


It's an elite cadre of BBI mind readers. I'm nervous just posting here, for fear they'll tell Anthony Mejia it was really me who stole his Garfield pencil in the second grade.

RE: Well  
BigBlueShock : 11/24/2022 10:27 am : link
In comment 15919646 RicFlair said:
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They didn’t say it, but I know they thought it.


Lol.

You’ve got the mental capacity of a flea with dementia so it’s not surprising that you aren’t quite capable of figuring anything out without having to be told the answer. You probably believe everything that comes out of every coaches mouth too…
So it’s just assumptions and thinking peoples thoughts for them  
ajr2456 : 11/24/2022 10:47 am : link
It’s hilarious and yet childish at the same time. I mean I’ve been accused of being angry that the Giants beat the Ravens by a couple of the resident tools on this board.

If Daniel Jones played like a top 10 quarterback and the Giants could spend the offseason adding other pieces to the team everyone on this board would be ecstatic. It would be the best situation for the Giants to win the most games. Just because some people have the opinion that he’ll never be that and would rather move on than go for a 5th year of excuses and what ifs, doesn’t mean they root against the Giants or for his failure. I don’t care if I’m wrong on Daniel Jones, I’ve been wrong before. I thought Frank Ntilikina would develop into a very good NBA guard!

It’s a weird defense mechanism used by the Jones fans.
DJ will be fine  
Sec 103 : 11/24/2022 11:45 am : link
idiots on this board will not.

Like the old saying goes, opinions are like...

While he's here, the is the Giants QB, and I hope to fuck every time he plays he wins.

That is all !
RE: RE: Well  
RicFlair : 11/24/2022 11:48 am : link
In comment 15919658 BigBlueShock said:
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They didn’t say it, but I know they thought it.


Lol.


You’ve got the mental capacity of a flea with dementia so it’s not surprising that you aren’t quite capable of figuring anything out without having to be told the answer. You probably believe everything that comes out of every coaches mouth too…



Yikes. Lol.
RE: RE: Well  
Ten Ton Hammer : 11/24/2022 11:56 am : link
In comment 15919658 BigBlueShock said:
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They didn’t say it, but I know they thought it.


Lol.


You’ve got the mental capacity of a flea with dementia


lmfao
I think this game today  
Dave on the UWS : 11/24/2022 1:12 pm : link
is a good opportunity to evaluate him when he has massive adversity, the deck is stacked against him. Let’s see how he handles it and what he can accomplish. Lots of guys can do well when everything is going well. When they are up against it, we learn more!
RE: I think this game today  
5BowlsSoon : 11/24/2022 1:17 pm : link
In comment 15919796 Dave on the UWS said:
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is a good opportunity to evaluate him when he has massive adversity, the deck is stacked against him. Let’s see how he handles it and what he can accomplish. Lots of guys can do well when everything is going well. When they are up against it, we learn more!


A-hemmmm….he’s had this for 3.5 years….how much more adversity do you need? When can he have it “made in the shade.”
RE: RE: Well  
christian : 11/24/2022 2:24 pm : link
In comment 15919655 5BowlsSoon said:
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They didn’t say it, but I know they thought it.


Lol.



WOOOOOOOOO!

I’m surprised he omitted Go Terps and Mike from Ohio. I would have definitely had both in the top 10.:


Maybe you missed the lesson on sarcasm in the 5th grade?
RE: RE: RE: Simultaneously,  
Blueworm : 11/24/2022 2:32 pm : link
In comment 15919528 5BowlsSoon said:
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There are just as many vultures wearing "8" jerseys circling waiting to use one result or one stat to push their point that their evaluation is correct.

You don't want to hear anything bad, so anyone that doesn't follow is clearly "rooting for failure".



The problem with this argument is that both sides AREN’T equal. You SHOULD be supporting your team and your QB. That’s what normal fans do. I’ve discovered the giants fans are anything but normal.



Bingo….last week was a good example. Jones played hard all game…ran for a TD threw for one…had over 330 yards passing since he had to throw….but he basically made one bad pass with the score 24-6 and the vultures came out in full force.

Here is how I know someone is a VULTURE….pay attention….if the only thing a “fan” says about a player is TO FIND FAULT, and never-rarely shares the positive stuff in that player….they are a vulture.

Like I said, there was much positive from Jones last week. 330 yds with two drops, a dropped two point conversion and Two TDs….yet if all you want to talk about is that one play at 24-6….you are a VULTURE and don’t kid yourself because you are not kidding me…you want Jones to fail because for years you have bad mouthed him and believe he should be gone. Maybe he should be gone, but I believe it is still wrong to rejoice in his failure ESPECIALLY when you never to rarely praise him for the good things he does too. Saquon got 22 on 15 carries and I hardly heard a word of criticism his way.

F*** all the vultures out there, and you know who you are.

Don't ever refer to garbage numbers if you want to be taken seriously.

How many of those 300 yards impacted the game?
RE: RE: Simultaneously,  
Ten Ton Hammer : 11/24/2022 2:40 pm : link
In comment 15919524 Dukie Dimes said:
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In comment 15919460 Ten Ton Hammer said:


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There are just as many vultures wearing "8" jerseys circling waiting to use one result or one stat to push their point that their evaluation is correct.

You don't want to hear anything bad, so anyone that doesn't follow is clearly "rooting for failure".



The problem with this argument is that both sides AREN’T equal. You SHOULD be supporting your team and your QB. That’s what normal fans do. I’ve discovered the giants fans are anything but normal.


There's supporting the team, and being a homer, and everyone should know the difference.
RE: RE: Simultaneously,  
Scooter185 : 11/24/2022 2:51 pm : link
In comment 15919524 Dukie Dimes said:
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In comment 15919460 Ten Ton Hammer said:


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There are just as many vultures wearing "8" jerseys circling waiting to use one result or one stat to push their point that their evaluation is correct.

You don't want to hear anything bad, so anyone that doesn't follow is clearly "rooting for failure".



The problem with this argument is that both sides AREN’T equal. You SHOULD be supporting your team and your QB. That’s what normal fans do. I’ve discovered the giants fans are anything but normal.


Maybe it's because football is #2 to baseball for me, but I don't understand why we have to 100% be behind a player if we don't think they're that good. Like if this was Big Pinstripe Interactive would we have had posters saying to support Joey Gallo just because he's a Yankee and call anyone who didn't a fake fan?
Some of you guys take this shit way too personally  
Gary from The East End : Admin : 11/24/2022 3:20 pm : link
If you're getting all wound up and throwing insults because someone on this board has a different evaluation of one of the players on our team, you need to turn off your computer, go outside and touch grass.

Also, if you're accusing someone here of rooting for a Giants player to fail, I want to see some receipts or you can have a time out.
Why?  
chick310 : 11/24/2022 4:05 pm : link
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RE: RE: RE: RE: Simultaneously,  
5BowlsSoon : 11/24/2022 4:14 pm : link
In comment 15919847 Blueworm said:
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In comment 15919524 Dukie Dimes said:


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In comment 15919460 Ten Ton Hammer said:


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There are just as many vultures wearing "8" jerseys circling waiting to use one result or one stat to push their point that their evaluation is correct.

You don't want to hear anything bad, so anyone that doesn't follow is clearly "rooting for failure".



The problem with this argument is that both sides AREN’T equal. You SHOULD be supporting your team and your QB. That’s what normal fans do. I’ve discovered the giants fans are anything but normal.



Bingo….last week was a good example. Jones played hard all game…ran for a TD threw for one…had over 330 yards passing since he had to throw….but he basically made one bad pass with the score 24-6 and the vultures came out in full force.

Here is how I know someone is a VULTURE….pay attention….if the only thing a “fan” says about a player is TO FIND FAULT, and never-rarely shares the positive stuff in that player….they are a vulture.

Like I said, there was much positive from Jones last week. 330 yds with two drops, a dropped two point conversion and Two TDs….yet if all you want to talk about is that one play at 24-6….you are a VULTURE and don’t kid yourself because you are not kidding me…you want Jones to fail because for years you have bad mouthed him and believe he should be gone. Maybe he should be gone, but I believe it is still wrong to rejoice in his failure ESPECIALLY when you never to rarely praise him for the good things he does too. Saquon got 22 on 15 carries and I hardly heard a word of criticism his way.

F*** all the vultures out there, and you know who you are.


Don't ever refer to garbage numbers if you want to be taken seriously.

How many of those 300 yards impacted the game?


I don’t think any were garbage. His last pass was thrown with over 4 minutes to play. If they get the onside kick and score they are down 4. Besides, didn’t a team score 3 times in the last few minutes of a game this season?

But, if you want to call the last drive garbage, Jones had 70 yards on that drive.

341-70=271

But like I said, garbage time is when it’s all over. With 4-5 minutes left with timeouts, 2 minute warning and onside kick, you can’t say the game was over after they scored. You can say “they probably don’t win, 10% chance or thereabouts, but you can’t say there isn’t a chance.”

So, if you think that last drive was garbage, which began right after Lions scored a TD when the Giant player fumbled, which began with over 6 minutes left, then we just disagree. Believe what you want….
RE: RE: RE: ...  
Joey in VA : 11/24/2022 8:02 pm : link
In comment 15919504 outeiroj said:
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In comment 15919433 outeiroj said:


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I believe it's sad that there are more "fans" rooting for his failure than something just clicking and him becoming a star.

Which is odd, because he has more heart than most who lace up on a weekly basis and from everything posted from media and coaches he's a genuinely great human being



Enough with this crap. Nobody wants him to fail.



Your either illiterate or fucking stupid if you don’t notice the DJ threads of people rooting for him to fail

DJ success = Giants success
To be fair LGG isn't playing with a full deck and hasn't for quite some time. His ability to grasp reality left with the Reagan administration. He's in Manny territory now. Just pretend he isn't here.
RE: RE: RE: Simultaneously,  
Gatorade Dunk : 11/24/2022 10:16 pm : link
In comment 15919528 5BowlsSoon said:
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In comment 15919524 Dukie Dimes said:


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In comment 15919460 Ten Ton Hammer said:


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There are just as many vultures wearing "8" jerseys circling waiting to use one result or one stat to push their point that their evaluation is correct.

You don't want to hear anything bad, so anyone that doesn't follow is clearly "rooting for failure".



The problem with this argument is that both sides AREN’T equal. You SHOULD be supporting your team and your QB. That’s what normal fans do. I’ve discovered the giants fans are anything but normal.



Bingo….last week was a good example. Jones played hard all game…ran for a TD threw for one…had over 330 yards passing since he had to throw….but he basically made one bad pass with the score 24-6 and the vultures came out in full force.

Here is how I know someone is a VULTURE….pay attention….if the only thing a “fan” says about a player is TO FIND FAULT, and never-rarely shares the positive stuff in that player….they are a vulture.

Like I said, there was much positive from Jones last week. 330 yds with two drops, a dropped two point conversion and Two TDs….yet if all you want to talk about is that one play at 24-6….you are a VULTURE and don’t kid yourself because you are not kidding me…you want Jones to fail because for years you have bad mouthed him and believe he should be gone. Maybe he should be gone, but I believe it is still wrong to rejoice in his failure ESPECIALLY when you never to rarely praise him for the good things he does too. Saquon got 22 on 15 carries and I hardly heard a word of criticism his way.

F*** all the vultures out there, and you know who you are.

STFU, dude. You're a fucking Bills fan.
Rejoice in his failure? Vulture?  
bwitz : 11/24/2022 10:50 pm : link
Jesus. Some of you need to take a step back and look at the picture for what it actually is. You can criticize Daniel Jones and still root for him. It’s not that hard to understand really. No Giant fan is openly rooting for him to suck; that is just fucking absurd.
Bwitz  
ajr2456 : 11/24/2022 11:02 pm : link
It’s a coping mechanism.
RE: I put DJ in the “good” column.  
GMen72 : 11/24/2022 11:11 pm : link
In comment 15919578 Giant John said:
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Not one of the greats but better than most playing today. What box doesn’t he check? None I can see. Not his fault the offensive roster has sucked his entire career.


Have your seeing-eye dog explain the game to you. What box does he check? Passing yards? No! Passing TDs? No! Being a QB a defense respects enough not to put 8-9 in the box? Nope! So, pretty much everything every REAL franchise QB does, Jones doesn't do.
RE: RE: Simultaneously,  
GMen72 : 11/24/2022 11:12 pm : link
In comment 15919524 Dukie Dimes said:
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In comment 15919460 Ten Ton Hammer said:


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There are just as many vultures wearing "8" jerseys circling waiting to use one result or one stat to push their point that their evaluation is correct.

You don't want to hear anything bad, so anyone that doesn't follow is clearly "rooting for failure".



The problem with this argument is that both sides AREN’T equal. You SHOULD be supporting your team and your QB. That’s what normal fans do. I’ve discovered the giants fans are anything but normal.


I support the Giants. I even root for DJ in games. I just don't want the Giants to resign him...especially for more than $12-15 million.
RE: Well .....  
GMen72 : 11/24/2022 11:13 pm : link
In comment 15919651 River Mike said:
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"Trevor Lawrence, Zach Wilson, Trey Lance, Justin Fields and Mac Jones headlined a 2021 quarterback draft class heralded as one of the deepest and most talent-rich in NFL history.
But after rookie seasons that featured varying degrees of both success and inconsistencies, all five quarterbacks have encountered struggles in Year 2. As a result, their teams continue to wait for a return on their draft day investments, and it remains to be seen if any of the five will become transcendent players."

The Atlantic
The draft is a crap shoot.


DJ isn't a crap shoot...he's average, at best!
The draft is a crap shoot  
Ten Ton Hammer : 11/25/2022 12:11 am : link
And thats why nfl teams spend millions of dollars and pay GMs six and 7 figures a year to figure it out.

You have to come to grips with the fact that being a scout or a GM isn't just watching Alabama play on CBS like everyone else.
I want him gone because I want a better quarterback  
Greg from LI : 11/25/2022 1:06 am : link
Why is that so hard to understand? It's not personal. He's proven over and over that he doesn't pack the gear to be an upper echelon QB in this league.
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