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People who “REALLY” want Danny Dimes gone…

5BowlsSoon : 11/23/2022 9:04 pm
Tomorrow should be the game that you have been waiting for.

Dimes probably will have a horrible game, get sacked 10 times, probably fumble at least once after getting creamed, probably throw multiple interceptions under intense pressure, and most importantly, he will probably only lead the team to single digits on the scoreboard.

Sleep well fellows….your prayers are probably about to be answered.
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They won't openly post  
Lines of Scrimmage : 11/24/2022 10:06 am : link
about that but for a few it will be subtly implied with words.

Who really cares. The ones who have always been against him aren't going to change.

Saw the same thing with Eli starting in 2013 and that was for a two time SB MVP. One of the worst drafting teams in the league from 2008-17 and a few dopes found him the biggest problem.
Believe it or Not - Still Hard to Pigeonhole DJ  
Bob in Newburgh : 11/24/2022 10:08 am : link
Yes - 4th year here

Never - Anything close to an Alpha receiver
Anything close to multiple #2 receivers
Anything close to a sit back and survey field o-line

Without the above, it is impossible to know what DJ ceiling is. Going with Tyrod is an idiot's plan. None of the draft candidates (if we could even get to their spot) appear to have the ability to work with nothing. There can be no risk-free plan.
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christian : 11/24/2022 10:13 am : link
Some of the most active, and pessimistic posters regarding Jones on this site historically have been me, Sean, BW, and JonC.

And we've all been complimentary and surprised by how well Jones has played, even if we all have misgivings about giving him a lucrative multi-year contract.

So for real -- who are the posters who are part of this secret cabal waiting in the wings, rooting for Jones to fail? Name a single poster you all believe is part of this group. It should be easy if it's such a ubiquitous sentiment on this site.
Well  
RicFlair : 11/24/2022 10:14 am : link
They didn’t say it, but I know they thought it.


Lol.
Well .....  
River Mike : 11/24/2022 10:21 am : link
"Trevor Lawrence, Zach Wilson, Trey Lance, Justin Fields and Mac Jones headlined a 2021 quarterback draft class heralded as one of the deepest and most talent-rich in NFL history.
But after rookie seasons that featured varying degrees of both success and inconsistencies, all five quarterbacks have encountered struggles in Year 2. As a result, their teams continue to wait for a return on their draft day investments, and it remains to be seen if any of the five will become transcendent players."

The Atlantic
The draft is a crap shoot.

RE: Well  
5BowlsSoon : 11/24/2022 10:24 am : link
In comment 15919646 RicFlair said:
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They didn’t say it, but I know they thought it.


Lol.


WOOOOOOOOO!

I’m surprised he omitted Go Terps and Mike from Ohio. I would have definitely had both in the top 10.:
RE: Well  
christian : 11/24/2022 10:26 am : link
In comment 15919646 RicFlair said:
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They didn’t say it, but I know they thought it.


Lol.


It's an elite cadre of BBI mind readers. I'm nervous just posting here, for fear they'll tell Anthony Mejia it was really me who stole his Garfield pencil in the second grade.

RE: Well  
BigBlueShock : 11/24/2022 10:27 am : link
In comment 15919646 RicFlair said:
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They didn’t say it, but I know they thought it.


Lol.

You’ve got the mental capacity of a flea with dementia so it’s not surprising that you aren’t quite capable of figuring anything out without having to be told the answer. You probably believe everything that comes out of every coaches mouth too…
So it’s just assumptions and thinking peoples thoughts for them  
ajr2456 : 11/24/2022 10:47 am : link
It’s hilarious and yet childish at the same time. I mean I’ve been accused of being angry that the Giants beat the Ravens by a couple of the resident tools on this board.

If Daniel Jones played like a top 10 quarterback and the Giants could spend the offseason adding other pieces to the team everyone on this board would be ecstatic. It would be the best situation for the Giants to win the most games. Just because some people have the opinion that he’ll never be that and would rather move on than go for a 5th year of excuses and what ifs, doesn’t mean they root against the Giants or for his failure. I don’t care if I’m wrong on Daniel Jones, I’ve been wrong before. I thought Frank Ntilikina would develop into a very good NBA guard!

It’s a weird defense mechanism used by the Jones fans.
DJ will be fine  
Sec 103 : 11/24/2022 11:45 am : link
idiots on this board will not.

Like the old saying goes, opinions are like...

While he's here, the is the Giants QB, and I hope to fuck every time he plays he wins.

That is all !
RE: RE: Well  
RicFlair : 11/24/2022 11:48 am : link
In comment 15919658 BigBlueShock said:
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In comment 15919646 RicFlair said:


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They didn’t say it, but I know they thought it.


Lol.


You’ve got the mental capacity of a flea with dementia so it’s not surprising that you aren’t quite capable of figuring anything out without having to be told the answer. You probably believe everything that comes out of every coaches mouth too…



Yikes. Lol.
RE: RE: Well  
Ten Ton Hammer : 11/24/2022 11:56 am : link
In comment 15919658 BigBlueShock said:
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In comment 15919646 RicFlair said:


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They didn’t say it, but I know they thought it.


Lol.


You’ve got the mental capacity of a flea with dementia


lmfao
I think this game today  
Dave on the UWS : 11/24/2022 1:12 pm : link
is a good opportunity to evaluate him when he has massive adversity, the deck is stacked against him. Let’s see how he handles it and what he can accomplish. Lots of guys can do well when everything is going well. When they are up against it, we learn more!
RE: I think this game today  
5BowlsSoon : 11/24/2022 1:17 pm : link
In comment 15919796 Dave on the UWS said:
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is a good opportunity to evaluate him when he has massive adversity, the deck is stacked against him. Let’s see how he handles it and what he can accomplish. Lots of guys can do well when everything is going well. When they are up against it, we learn more!


A-hemmmm….he’s had this for 3.5 years….how much more adversity do you need? When can he have it “made in the shade.”
RE: RE: Well  
christian : 11/24/2022 2:24 pm : link
In comment 15919655 5BowlsSoon said:
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In comment 15919646 RicFlair said:


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They didn’t say it, but I know they thought it.


Lol.



WOOOOOOOOO!

I’m surprised he omitted Go Terps and Mike from Ohio. I would have definitely had both in the top 10.:


Maybe you missed the lesson on sarcasm in the 5th grade?
RE: RE: RE: Simultaneously,  
Blueworm : 11/24/2022 2:32 pm : link
In comment 15919528 5BowlsSoon said:
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In comment 15919460 Ten Ton Hammer said:


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There are just as many vultures wearing "8" jerseys circling waiting to use one result or one stat to push their point that their evaluation is correct.

You don't want to hear anything bad, so anyone that doesn't follow is clearly "rooting for failure".



The problem with this argument is that both sides AREN’T equal. You SHOULD be supporting your team and your QB. That’s what normal fans do. I’ve discovered the giants fans are anything but normal.



Bingo….last week was a good example. Jones played hard all game…ran for a TD threw for one…had over 330 yards passing since he had to throw….but he basically made one bad pass with the score 24-6 and the vultures came out in full force.

Here is how I know someone is a VULTURE….pay attention….if the only thing a “fan” says about a player is TO FIND FAULT, and never-rarely shares the positive stuff in that player….they are a vulture.

Like I said, there was much positive from Jones last week. 330 yds with two drops, a dropped two point conversion and Two TDs….yet if all you want to talk about is that one play at 24-6….you are a VULTURE and don’t kid yourself because you are not kidding me…you want Jones to fail because for years you have bad mouthed him and believe he should be gone. Maybe he should be gone, but I believe it is still wrong to rejoice in his failure ESPECIALLY when you never to rarely praise him for the good things he does too. Saquon got 22 on 15 carries and I hardly heard a word of criticism his way.

F*** all the vultures out there, and you know who you are.

Don't ever refer to garbage numbers if you want to be taken seriously.

How many of those 300 yards impacted the game?
RE: RE: Simultaneously,  
Ten Ton Hammer : 11/24/2022 2:40 pm : link
In comment 15919524 Dukie Dimes said:
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In comment 15919460 Ten Ton Hammer said:


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There are just as many vultures wearing "8" jerseys circling waiting to use one result or one stat to push their point that their evaluation is correct.

You don't want to hear anything bad, so anyone that doesn't follow is clearly "rooting for failure".



The problem with this argument is that both sides AREN’T equal. You SHOULD be supporting your team and your QB. That’s what normal fans do. I’ve discovered the giants fans are anything but normal.


There's supporting the team, and being a homer, and everyone should know the difference.
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Scooter185 : 11/24/2022 2:51 pm : link
In comment 15919524 Dukie Dimes said:
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In comment 15919460 Ten Ton Hammer said:


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There are just as many vultures wearing "8" jerseys circling waiting to use one result or one stat to push their point that their evaluation is correct.

You don't want to hear anything bad, so anyone that doesn't follow is clearly "rooting for failure".



The problem with this argument is that both sides AREN’T equal. You SHOULD be supporting your team and your QB. That’s what normal fans do. I’ve discovered the giants fans are anything but normal.


Maybe it's because football is #2 to baseball for me, but I don't understand why we have to 100% be behind a player if we don't think they're that good. Like if this was Big Pinstripe Interactive would we have had posters saying to support Joey Gallo just because he's a Yankee and call anyone who didn't a fake fan?
Some of you guys take this shit way too personally  
Gary from The East End : Admin : 11/24/2022 3:20 pm : link
If you're getting all wound up and throwing insults because someone on this board has a different evaluation of one of the players on our team, you need to turn off your computer, go outside and touch grass.

Also, if you're accusing someone here of rooting for a Giants player to fail, I want to see some receipts or you can have a time out.
Why?  
chick310 : 11/24/2022 4:05 pm : link
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RE: RE: RE: RE: Simultaneously,  
5BowlsSoon : 11/24/2022 4:14 pm : link
In comment 15919847 Blueworm said:
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In comment 15919528 5BowlsSoon said:


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In comment 15919524 Dukie Dimes said:


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In comment 15919460 Ten Ton Hammer said:


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There are just as many vultures wearing "8" jerseys circling waiting to use one result or one stat to push their point that their evaluation is correct.

You don't want to hear anything bad, so anyone that doesn't follow is clearly "rooting for failure".



The problem with this argument is that both sides AREN’T equal. You SHOULD be supporting your team and your QB. That’s what normal fans do. I’ve discovered the giants fans are anything but normal.



Bingo….last week was a good example. Jones played hard all game…ran for a TD threw for one…had over 330 yards passing since he had to throw….but he basically made one bad pass with the score 24-6 and the vultures came out in full force.

Here is how I know someone is a VULTURE….pay attention….if the only thing a “fan” says about a player is TO FIND FAULT, and never-rarely shares the positive stuff in that player….they are a vulture.

Like I said, there was much positive from Jones last week. 330 yds with two drops, a dropped two point conversion and Two TDs….yet if all you want to talk about is that one play at 24-6….you are a VULTURE and don’t kid yourself because you are not kidding me…you want Jones to fail because for years you have bad mouthed him and believe he should be gone. Maybe he should be gone, but I believe it is still wrong to rejoice in his failure ESPECIALLY when you never to rarely praise him for the good things he does too. Saquon got 22 on 15 carries and I hardly heard a word of criticism his way.

F*** all the vultures out there, and you know who you are.


Don't ever refer to garbage numbers if you want to be taken seriously.

How many of those 300 yards impacted the game?


I don’t think any were garbage. His last pass was thrown with over 4 minutes to play. If they get the onside kick and score they are down 4. Besides, didn’t a team score 3 times in the last few minutes of a game this season?

But, if you want to call the last drive garbage, Jones had 70 yards on that drive.

341-70=271

But like I said, garbage time is when it’s all over. With 4-5 minutes left with timeouts, 2 minute warning and onside kick, you can’t say the game was over after they scored. You can say “they probably don’t win, 10% chance or thereabouts, but you can’t say there isn’t a chance.”

So, if you think that last drive was garbage, which began right after Lions scored a TD when the Giant player fumbled, which began with over 6 minutes left, then we just disagree. Believe what you want….
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Joey in VA : 11/24/2022 8:02 pm : link
In comment 15919504 outeiroj said:
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I believe it's sad that there are more "fans" rooting for his failure than something just clicking and him becoming a star.

Which is odd, because he has more heart than most who lace up on a weekly basis and from everything posted from media and coaches he's a genuinely great human being



Enough with this crap. Nobody wants him to fail.



Your either illiterate or fucking stupid if you don’t notice the DJ threads of people rooting for him to fail

DJ success = Giants success
To be fair LGG isn't playing with a full deck and hasn't for quite some time. His ability to grasp reality left with the Reagan administration. He's in Manny territory now. Just pretend he isn't here.
RE: RE: RE: Simultaneously,  
Gatorade Dunk : 11/24/2022 10:16 pm : link
In comment 15919528 5BowlsSoon said:
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In comment 15919524 Dukie Dimes said:


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In comment 15919460 Ten Ton Hammer said:


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There are just as many vultures wearing "8" jerseys circling waiting to use one result or one stat to push their point that their evaluation is correct.

You don't want to hear anything bad, so anyone that doesn't follow is clearly "rooting for failure".



The problem with this argument is that both sides AREN’T equal. You SHOULD be supporting your team and your QB. That’s what normal fans do. I’ve discovered the giants fans are anything but normal.



Bingo….last week was a good example. Jones played hard all game…ran for a TD threw for one…had over 330 yards passing since he had to throw….but he basically made one bad pass with the score 24-6 and the vultures came out in full force.

Here is how I know someone is a VULTURE….pay attention….if the only thing a “fan” says about a player is TO FIND FAULT, and never-rarely shares the positive stuff in that player….they are a vulture.

Like I said, there was much positive from Jones last week. 330 yds with two drops, a dropped two point conversion and Two TDs….yet if all you want to talk about is that one play at 24-6….you are a VULTURE and don’t kid yourself because you are not kidding me…you want Jones to fail because for years you have bad mouthed him and believe he should be gone. Maybe he should be gone, but I believe it is still wrong to rejoice in his failure ESPECIALLY when you never to rarely praise him for the good things he does too. Saquon got 22 on 15 carries and I hardly heard a word of criticism his way.

F*** all the vultures out there, and you know who you are.

STFU, dude. You're a fucking Bills fan.
Rejoice in his failure? Vulture?  
bwitz : 11/24/2022 10:50 pm : link
Jesus. Some of you need to take a step back and look at the picture for what it actually is. You can criticize Daniel Jones and still root for him. It’s not that hard to understand really. No Giant fan is openly rooting for him to suck; that is just fucking absurd.
Bwitz  
ajr2456 : 11/24/2022 11:02 pm : link
It’s a coping mechanism.
RE: I put DJ in the “good” column.  
GMen72 : 11/24/2022 11:11 pm : link
In comment 15919578 Giant John said:
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Not one of the greats but better than most playing today. What box doesn’t he check? None I can see. Not his fault the offensive roster has sucked his entire career.


Have your seeing-eye dog explain the game to you. What box does he check? Passing yards? No! Passing TDs? No! Being a QB a defense respects enough not to put 8-9 in the box? Nope! So, pretty much everything every REAL franchise QB does, Jones doesn't do.
RE: RE: Simultaneously,  
GMen72 : 11/24/2022 11:12 pm : link
In comment 15919524 Dukie Dimes said:
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In comment 15919460 Ten Ton Hammer said:


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There are just as many vultures wearing "8" jerseys circling waiting to use one result or one stat to push their point that their evaluation is correct.

You don't want to hear anything bad, so anyone that doesn't follow is clearly "rooting for failure".



The problem with this argument is that both sides AREN’T equal. You SHOULD be supporting your team and your QB. That’s what normal fans do. I’ve discovered the giants fans are anything but normal.


I support the Giants. I even root for DJ in games. I just don't want the Giants to resign him...especially for more than $12-15 million.
RE: Well .....  
GMen72 : 11/24/2022 11:13 pm : link
In comment 15919651 River Mike said:
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"Trevor Lawrence, Zach Wilson, Trey Lance, Justin Fields and Mac Jones headlined a 2021 quarterback draft class heralded as one of the deepest and most talent-rich in NFL history.
But after rookie seasons that featured varying degrees of both success and inconsistencies, all five quarterbacks have encountered struggles in Year 2. As a result, their teams continue to wait for a return on their draft day investments, and it remains to be seen if any of the five will become transcendent players."

The Atlantic
The draft is a crap shoot.


DJ isn't a crap shoot...he's average, at best!
The draft is a crap shoot  
Ten Ton Hammer : 11/25/2022 12:11 am : link
And thats why nfl teams spend millions of dollars and pay GMs six and 7 figures a year to figure it out.

You have to come to grips with the fact that being a scout or a GM isn't just watching Alabama play on CBS like everyone else.
I want him gone because I want a better quarterback  
Greg from LI : 11/25/2022 1:06 am : link
Why is that so hard to understand? It's not personal. He's proven over and over that he doesn't pack the gear to be an upper echelon QB in this league.
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