You need to catch that ball and they are inside the 1.
DJ has to throw that ball down the sideline...not make Slayton fight through the CB and bring him back towards the safety. If that ball is down the sideline, it's an easy catch.
But it’s probably uncalled like 30 times a game. Looked barely past the LOS. If it was and RPO I get throwing the flag but that should be like where they give you an extra tenth of a second for on a delay of game
Weak...but not bullshit. He was 3 yards (maybe 4) downfield. He knew it, that's why he backed up. With that said, pretty ticky-tack call considering he wasn't even blocking anyone.
the officials can't just ignore the rules so we get a td.
The tackle was more than a yard beyond the LOS for some reason, and Daniel is in his 4th year and should know that he can't just wing the ball out of bounds from inside the pocket when no one is there.
Explain go me why they called Thomas for being illegally downfield when he was clearly only 4 yards past te line? If I am wrong or fucked up on this, please tell Mr, because I am not understanding how the fuck they are calling this penalty on us when we are not 5 yards past the line.
Explain go me why they called Thomas for being illegally downfield when he was clearly only 4 yards past te line? If I am wrong or fucked up on this, please tell Mr, because I am not understanding how the fuck they are calling this penalty on us when we are not 5 yards past the line.
Explain go me why they called Thomas for being illegally downfield when he was clearly only 4 yards past te line? If I am wrong or fucked up on this, please tell Mr, because I am not understanding how the fuck they are calling this penalty on us when we are not 5 yards past the line.
b/c the rule is 1 yard downfield maximium. glad to hear you agree with the call.
Explain go me why they called Thomas for being illegally downfield when he was clearly only 4 yards past te line? If I am wrong or fucked up on this, please tell Mr, because I am not understanding how the fuck they are calling this penalty on us when we are not 5 yards past the line.
Was the last time we got to see a Giant offense hum down the field on multiple occasions without being flagged for penalties? Sometimes I wonder if I’ll ever see it again.
We're just being blown off the LOS. If that continues, Dallas won't need to throw very much, if at all.
This is why I keep saying we need to focus on strengthening the team at the line of scrimmage. WRs and RBs and QBs are great to talk about in the forum here, but the game is won on the line... both sides of the ball.
That negate big plays and or scores are a plenty. I am so tired of the OPI's on big plays and now two times recently with illegally down field penalties.
This defense has faced A LOT of bad/average offenses. Did you really think Dallas would'nt move the ball today? Gonna be tough for the Giants to stay in this.
Gave up on the route, slowed down and then stumbled. This guy has been hurting the team way too often.
He slipped trying to reach for the throw.
He was just coming out of his cut, and DJ made a bad throw.
Don’t even bother arguing . They lol never admit Jones did anything bad even though my grandma could have made that. Very costly three and out. This guy I’m incapable of playing in the pocket with any consistent play
This defense has faced A LOT of bad/average offenses. Did you really think Dallas would'nt move the ball today? Gonna be tough for the Giants to stay in this.
Lower your pad level and pick 1-2 extra yards. Kafka’s first two drives were excellent, very aggressive. Keep that up (as I type this Saquon has a nice run lol)
To make a great catch, Slayton would be the last guy I would pick. He gets open plenty, but drops easy catches. He did already in this game, but that was a great catch.
was beaten. It happens. And it was Parsons. Thomas is also sick. The real problem is that Dallas is in Jones's face almost immediately on any type of normal drop.
Parsons is so fast but I was impressed by even that Thomas had got beat badly he was able to move his feet quick enough to get hands on him and allow the quarterback a chance to step up and make a play. Stud versus stud.
was beaten. It happens. And it was Parsons. Thomas is also sick. The real problem is that Dallas is in Jones's face almost immediately on any type of normal drop.
He really wasn't beaten, he just pushed the DE further up field. Nothing else a LT can do there.
on illegal contact. Too many times offenses get bailed out of 3rd and very long situations with a 5 yard penalty. Make it 10 yards and no automatic first.
on illegal contact. Too many times offenses get bailed out of 3rd and very long situations with a 5 yard penalty. Make it 10 yards and no automatic first.
on illegal contact. Too many times offenses get bailed out of 3rd and very long situations with a 5 yard penalty. Make it 10 yards and no automatic first.
I’ve been saying for years, why is holding and illegal contact 5 yard penalties but automatic first downs? Replay the down like an offside unless the offense needs less. The answer is to keep offenses moving & scoring but still dumb.
The Giants are not interested in parking the bus and taking a loss. They came to play. Now do something on offense. With our OL, it's imperative we stay out of third and long.
run defense has been somewhat porous but we're up against a very good Dallas OL. The pass defense has been very good. Even aside from the INTs they are doing a good job covering the Dallas WRs. Gallup simply made a few terrific catches. Good job by Flott and R. Williams.
We're also getting pressure on Dak. Thibs had a great half IMO.
On offense, it's clear we can't pass block on regular drop backs. Dallas is right on top of Jones almost immediately. We need to roll him out more and throw on first down to avoid third and long.
run defense has been somewhat porous but we're up against a very good Dallas OL. The pass defense has been very good. Even aside from the INTs they are doing a good job covering the Dallas WRs. Gallup simply made a few terrific catches. Good job by Flott and R. Williams.
We're also getting pressure on Dak. Thibs had a great half IMO.
On offense, it's clear we can't pass block on regular drop backs. Dallas is right on top of Jones almost immediately. We need to roll him out more and throw on first down to avoid third and long.
We need more run plays by Jones and some screen passes..
That was reversed due to the penalty??
Did the penalty effect DJ at all?
Not trying to hate on DJ...just curious
I replayed it on my tv and couldn't tell
Giants so far, are controlling both sides of the ball.
Great job, by the whole team, top to bottom so far including DJ,
Besides one boneheaded throw, on first down, incomplete.
D, so far is lights out, Wink for life! JK
That was reversed due to the penalty??
Did the penalty effect DJ at all?
Not trying to hate on DJ...just curious
I replayed it on my tv and couldn't tell
I think the false start fucked them there. Jones did what we could to get the yards back and get a reasonable kick.
They should have called TO after the Jones run. Ended up burning 20 seconds only to then get a false start and have to burn a TO anyway. Took any real shot at a TD away. Shit happens. Managed the lead up to the FG well after that though.
I think the false start fucked them there. Jones did what we could to get the yards back and get a reasonable kick.
They should have called TO after the Jones run. Ended up burning 20 seconds only to then get a false start and have to burn a TO anyway. Took any real shot at a TD away. Shit happens. Managed the lead up to the FG well after that though.
Giants always just settle for FGs. Wasted so much time.
That result was not terrible. 3 to end the half is a big plus.
Agree...but with :50 at the opponent 40 after a drive-saving penalty, gotta get a couple shots at the endzone. Terrible clock management by Daboll and DJ. Can't just accept FGs against a good offense.
was absolutely brutal. Thibs had Prescott but didn't wrap up and he went for six yards. Need to make those plays if we're going to win. And now a big third down run by Elliott.
Thibs looking as poor to start half as he did good in
Bad throw to Slayton down the sideline for an incompletion, bad throw on 3rd and short, got bailed out on a terrible throw for a pick, and terrible clock management. He didnt play great...Slayton and James with 2 outstanding catches.
RE: He ever slowly pulled his Jersey…might as well call it every play
Bad throw to Slayton down the sideline for an incompletion, bad throw on 3rd and short, got bailed out on a terrible throw for a pick, and terrible clock management. He didnt play great...Slayton and James with 2 outstanding catches.
I did not say he played ‘great’. I said I thought he played a good half and I stand by that
If you even try to figure out how these refs impacted the game
Not sure why byes aren’t the week before for these teams. It’s bad enough playing Sunday to Thursday night. Playing Sunday to Thursday at 1 has to be rough
Not sure why byes aren’t the week before for these teams. It’s bad enough playing Sunday to Thursday night. Playing Sunday to Thursday at 1 has to be rough
I completely agree - but the reason is money.
That's why the Giants can't settle for FGs in the 2 minute drill
But, even at that, how does a CB get beat to the corner by a TE? If the TE out muscles him or out jumps him that's one thing. But, he should be able to run with the TE for crying out loud.
third and goal from the 15 we give up a TD. Backbreaker.
They needed more help in the end zone. We just needed to keep them from getting inside of the 3 yard line. It was either a horrible scheme or the first guy who engaged the TE needed to stay with him and not release.
Of me to put so much emotion into this train wreck of an organization. Every year they have injury after injury. They get no respect from the refs because they have no players that earn it from being on the field year in and year out. The muscle tears and pulls are so many and do often that you would think they would do something drastic, like replacing some people, tet nothing. It's so hard to watch and invest your emotions into this when it's the sane story every season.
He had to navigate the rusher. I dont blame Jones. Barkley has to catch that if he wants to be a player. Have you seen the dallas recievers catch everything.
With a horrible pass. That is 100% on Jones. He has not been on target too often this game. Now it gets bad. Watch. That is unforgivable. Je leads Ba5kley and its a big gain, no pressure to speak of, you are literally 5 yards away from him. Sickening.
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JFC...the excuses for DJ are pathetic. How's he supposed to stay on his feet when the throw is 1 foot off the ground and behind him. Terrible throw! [/quot
If you’re going to throw, I would preferred them to move Jones out the pocket.
On the play itself, not a great throw but Barkley has to catch that
Agree. Problem when you keep him in pocket he has to navigate ball so it doesn’t get batted and you are throwing to a RB. Even our practice squad WRs catch that
Fuck that! What a shitty throw...low and behind him.
LOL - let me guess, you’re a Jones hater.
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I am a jones no liker. But that was not on Jones. SB HAS TO CATCH IT.
How do you catch that? ...he's running away from a low and behind throw. Some of you make every excuse for Jones. That throw was terrible...just hit him in the chest on a 2 yard throw!
If you’re going to throw, I would preferred them to move Jones out the pocket.
On the play itself, not a great throw but Barkley has to catch that
It was not a smart call. If you are on the edge of FG territory fine. Not on your own 40 in a one point game. Now they are going to cash in and the game isn’t over but it is now an 8 point game
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Another Jones hater
3rd an1 and 4th and 1 and DJ can't make an accurate 2 yard throw on either. Stop with this crap!
RE: Jones hits that throw to Barkley it’s probably a TD
1. We didn’t have to run a cover 0 on third and goal. We gave them four points
2. We went for it on our 40 with a one point deficit. Talk about being impatient we gifted them 7 points
Deal but some of you against Jones for his play better be just as honest about Barkley. He just isn't a guy to pay a ton of $$$$ to. We need $$ spent elsewhere...
Deal but some of you against Jones for his play better be just as honest about Barkley. He just isn't a guy to pay a ton of $$$$ to. We need $$ spent elsewhere...
Spending big money on an RB is never a good idea yea
has more burst than Barkley, but of course he hardly plays on offense while Saquon has taken a beating already many times this year. But you go with the fresh players. I like using Saquon as a decoy. Now get him involved in the pass game with some short throws.
Everyone says that and I get it because he looks always like the naked bootleg works, but don’t forget the players on the field look for the ball, he won’t be that open when he has it in his hands
Everyone says that and I get it because he looks always like the naked bootleg works, but don’t forget the players on the field look for the ball, he won’t be that open when he has it in his hands
It’s that simple, but agendas won’t let people say that. It was a poor throw that made it much harder than it should have been. Having said that, it was catchable and Barkely doesn’t have good hands. If it doesn’t hit him between the numbers he probably isn’t catching it.
That’s true. My issue is DJ has thrown out to the right flat 2x before and not been sharp on either. Why did they think on 4th on your side of the field that’s the play?
This fucking guy and his constant punting into the endzone
A good QB makes plays. Simple as that. The Giants have tough decisions to make. Even Barkley is not an easy decision, paying him big money at that position with his age and injury history is a very hard decision. I am glad I am not Making them. Because they need help in so nany areas its just not easy to pay Jones and Barkley big money. They Cowboys are laughing now. Wouldn't it be nice to have some monsters to shut them up. Instead we rely on a QB who has guts, but limited ability.
That was a very good punt. He had hang time and it bounced inside of the 5 and bounced up in the air. The gunners were not fighting to get down there. We could have downed it.
A good QB makes plays. Simple as that. The Giants have tough decisions to make. Even Barkley is not an easy decision, paying him big money at that position with his age and injury history is a very hard decision. I am glad I am not Making them. Because they need help in so nany areas it’s just not easy to pay Jones and Barkley big money. They Cowboys are laughing now. Wouldn't it be nice to have some monsters to shut them up. Instead we rely on a QB who has guts, but limited ability.
Jones has made plenty of good throws, his shitty receivers can’t catch it.
That was a very good punt. He had hang time and it bounced inside of the 5 and bounced up in the air. The gunners were not fighting to get down there. We could have downed it.
I'm not paying either these guys BIG money. Barkley is either hurt or tired and Jones is just a decent player has some things but overall just leaves to much to be desired...
And most blue tinted glasses bbi ers won’t admit to it, the team is bereft of talent from one of the worst GMs ever to grace a front office. They don’t have a legit qb, they don’t have a pass rush. It’s nearly impossible to win in this league without those two things. Daboll and staff have done an awesome job making this team competitive this season. Give them a legit qb and and pass rush. They’ll be a SN contender every year.
I am more concerned with Barkley. He looks absolutely like he has regressed to 2020 Barkley. Possible its that shoulder or he has hit a wall with overuse.
Too many key injuries. I'll give them a thumbs up for the first half, but Dallas made adjustments and keyed off Flott in the 2nd half. At least 7-4 is still over 500. Time to get better for Washington next game.
How exactly should Wink adjust with that secondary?
Exactly! Can't blame the defense on this one. Offense couldn't score or stay on the field. Banged up defense did all they could until they got worn down from being on the field all game.
Ugh... But, like I said this morning, we need to come out of this as healthy as possible and many signs that we are going to be better with players back. Thibs is so close..man if we only had Ojulari playing opposite him...
Too many key injuries. I'll give them a thumbs up for the first half, but Dallas made adjustments and keyed off Flott in the 2nd half. At least 7-4 is still over 500. Time to get better for Washington next game.
Any fan who doesn't have this view is gonna have a rough night. Get ready for Washington. I'd sit Barkley tonight.
The defense is the only reason this game was even close at one point
Dallas has 425 yards of offense.
Didn’t they only have 160 at half? The defense is missing their two best guys in the secondary and have faced 21 more plays. The offense hasn’t done the defense any favors
I'm so fucking sick of losing to the Cowboys and Eagles constantly
They fought with what they had, but the McKinney and Jackson injuries destroyed this defense. Hold'em Holmes trying to cover Cee Dee Lamb lol that's a joke.
is it no longer a penalty to use a prop during a TD celebration?
Too many key injuries. I'll give them a thumbs up for the first half, but Dallas made adjustments and keyed off Flott in the 2nd half. At least 7-4 is still over 500. Time to get better for Washington next game.
Any fan who doesn't have this view is gonna have a rough night. Get ready for Washington. I'd sit Barkley tonight.
How exactly should Wink adjust with that secondary?
Have you seen what he’s been doing all game on 3rd and longs?
I was hoping to hear your suggestions. It seems you think it’s so simple, I’m sure you can give us some of yours
Cover zero blitz on 3rd and goals from the 15, 3rd and longs all game long. It’s extremely predictable. It’s Wink’s MO. But after you see it being burned 4 times already, maybe do something different the 5th time?
been outscored 21-0 in the second half. Basically blown off the field. Sure the refs made some bad calls, but realistically Dallas crushed us. We're just too depleted right now.
Agree that Barkley looks like he's hit a wall.
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How exactly should Wink adjust with that secondary?
Have you seen what he’s been doing all game on 3rd and longs?
I was hoping to hear your suggestions. It seems you think it’s so simple, I’m sure you can give us some of yours
Cover zero blitz on 3rd and goals from the 15, 3rd and longs all game long. It’s extremely predictable. It’s Wink’s MO. But after you see it being burned 4 times already, maybe do something different the 5th time?
How many cover zeros have the giants called on third and long?
ajr no offense but you’re out of your mind. Yes they were.
The refs aren’t a top 5 reason the game is the way it is right now?
They aren’t. The refs aren’t why we’re 1-8 on third down. Why we can’t run the ball. Or the fact we have probably our top 4 in the secondary if you count Robinson out with injury. Refs didn’t make Saqoun drop that pass, etc.
I’m also sick of this staff, frankly. The luster has come off. Daboll is obviously fine but the clock has struck midnight on Wink and Kafka
Tye defense plays stupid, predictable and one-dimensional with sell-out blitzes that never get home. The rush defense is somehow a sieve despite at least two studs on the o-line.
The offense is just as vanilla and predictable as it was under Garret/Judge/Kichens. There’s little creativity to get Barkley into space. Instead, we slam him into the line 18-20 times a game. We don’t scheme receivers open. We also have a pair of wrs with height and we never throw any comebacks or back-shoulder fades. It’s as if Kafka is unaware certain routes exist.
we needed to beat these guys week 3 when they were without Dak. That's far worse of a loss than this short week game when we are depleted and they aren't.
There is nobody on this offense that can’t be replaced next year. Barkley looks nothing like that player he was earlier in the year. Nobody else.really an NFL starter level talent.
That was fucking stupid. It's like the Giants don't have a 2 minute offense. Running down 15 with zero tempo. They must have no faith in DJ. That's crazy!
So do I. We could have had him, but no The Giants Org kept DG who put this Franchise back for years.. It's almost a crime what DG did to this franchise.
RE: RE: RE: I'm so fucking sick of losing to the Cowboys and Eagles constantly
I’m also sick of this staff, frankly. The luster has come off. Daboll is obviously fine but the clock has struck midnight on Wink and Kafka
Tye defense plays stupid, predictable and one-dimensional with sell-out blitzes that never get home. The rush defense is somehow a sieve despite at least two studs on the o-line.
The offense is just as vanilla and predictable as it was under Garret/Judge/Kichens. There’s little creativity to get Barkley into space. Instead, we slam him into the line 18-20 times a game. We don’t scheme receivers open. We also have a pair of wrs with height and we never throw any comebacks or back-shoulder fades. It’s as if Kafka is unaware certain routes exist.
The defense is missing it’s two best players on the back end.
Kafka has called awful games two of the last three games. Jones doesn’t run, no more RPO, and they stopped using Wildcat
Traveling decimated with injuries and 3 days rest. They fought, now we need to maybe get some bodies back off a mini bye and fight like our season depends on it next Sunday vs Washington.
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I’m also sick of this staff, frankly. The luster has come off. Daboll is obviously fine but the clock has struck midnight on Wink and Kafka
Tye defense plays stupid, predictable and one-dimensional with sell-out blitzes that never get home. The rush defense is somehow a sieve despite at least two studs on the o-line.
The offense is just as vanilla and predictable as it was under Garret/Judge/Kichens. There’s little creativity to get Barkley into space. Instead, we slam him into the line 18-20 times a game. We don’t scheme receivers open. We also have a pair of wrs with height and we never throw any comebacks or back-shoulder fades. It’s as if Kafka is unaware certain routes exist.
What the fuck do you want given the injuries and talent issues? The staff is getting every drop of talent out of what can actually suit up.
We are beyond limited and anything else and we are exposing Jones etc to injury and complete destruction.
We were locked in to a game plan as a necessity no matter score or time..
I can. How much time did we kill running the ball on that drive?
They have no option, we are running and gimmicking our way through plays. Say what you want but our offense is just plain vanilla and our best player (Barkley) continues to come up small.
draft Parsons and let him go to the Cowboys is unforgivable. It really screwed the potential for a dominant defense since we had Lawrence and Williams already on the line. Barkley has to make that catch. It was a soft throw. He blew it.
There is nobody on this offense that can’t be replaced next year. Barkley looks nothing like that player he was earlier in the year. Nobody else.really an NFL starter level talent.
Unfortunately it looks like Barkley went over 200 carries and turned into a pumpkin.
This is a 3-14 team. They won 7 games because other teams, especially in the first 7 games, did not believe they could lose to this team.
Now they do, and they play like they do.
It’s a multi year (3-4 years) to make this a playoff team. The QB position is not even an issue until there are 15-16 NFL caliber players at the other positions.
I’m very impressed that they have the leadership (finally) at HC and hopefully GM to make a winning team here, but if you thought this was that team you were an idiot.
They've been on the field the whole game? What do you expect? Look at snaps and TOP.
Yes, but half of that is the defenses own fault. The defense doesn't stop them at all, so of course they are on the field a lot. Also yes, the offense didn't sustain drives to give them a break. So its not all the offenses fault.
I realize the cupboards are bare. Best idea of the game was getting Brightwell involved.
Playcalling was exactly what I wanted early in the game. They got away with it to establish the run, but we all knew that was never gonna happen. Kafka didn't get the memo?
3 minutes to go, Refs call a PI.
If I was a psychic, and you said the Giants were losing, and I was asked who they playing or where, I’d answer Dallas.
They can’t fellate that team enough.
Brightwell looks more explosive and runs harder and he is a back up.
Barkley didn't get his contract extension. Looks like he is playing not to get hurt.
Down on Barkley. Better places to spend money in areas of need. Very disappointing.
This isn’t a heat of the moment hot take. But you’re 100% right. Barkleys been great this year but pollard shows you you can get a good rb late for a fraction of the cost. The team has so many holes and places where money could be better spent. It’s not hate, it’s economics
When we could have wrapped up Dek for a big loss, in turn he ran for yards to extend the long drive for a TD that turned the table IMHO. No spark afterward just raw heart and energy till it dwindled away.
Jones was getting pressed easier said than done.
Dallas adjusted as we allowed lamb to be burn us and thier TE provided a Whiten flashback.
This is a 3-14 team. They won 7 games because other teams, especially in the first 7 games, did not believe they could lose to this team.
Now they do, and they play like they do.
It’s a multi year (3-4 years) to make this a playoff team. The QB position is not even an issue until there are 15-16 NFL caliber players at the other positions.
I’m very impressed that they have the leadership (finally) at HC and hopefully GM to make a winning team here, but if you thought this was that team you were an idiot.
This is a 3-14 team. They won 7 games because other teams, especially in the first 7 games, did not believe they could lose to this team.
Now they do, and they play like they do.
It’s a multi year (3-4 years) to make this a playoff team. The QB position is not even an issue until there are 15-16 NFL caliber players at the other positions.
I’m very impressed that they have the leadership (finally) at HC and hopefully GM to make a winning team here, but if you thought this was that team you were an idiot.
Lather, wash, rinse, repeat. They’ll be the same garbage team next year, we’ll be singing the same complaints, optimists will be saying coaches have nothing to work with, pessimists will be saying coaching sucks. The field will claim another 6 promising careers. This time next year we will be questioning whether Daboll and Schoen are the answer and why will Mara not sell the team to a competent ownership group. Ah the pungent air of mediocrity!
There is nobody on this offense that can’t be replaced next year. Barkley looks nothing like that player he was earlier in the year. Nobody else.really an NFL starter level talent.
Unfortunately it looks like Barkley went over 200 carries and turned into a pumpkin.
you understand the other team gets paid too? They know who the #1 player is and they try and take him away. It's up to the others to make up the slack, especially the franchise qb.
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Lather, wash, rinse, repeat. They’ll be the same garbage team next year, we’ll be singing the same complaints, optimists will be saying coaches have nothing to work with, pessimists will be saying coaching sucks. The field will claim another 6 promising careers. This time next year we will be questioning whether Daboll and Schoen are the answer and why will Mara not sell the team to a competent ownership group. Ah the pungent air of mediocrity!
I don't think so. The scholarships are done. Some of these players are playing their last games as Giants.
RE: RE: RE: Played like absolute losers in the second half
Aren't you the guy who everyone called out for being a pussy asswipe? Yeah, your opinion means shit, you fucking mongoloid.
Aren’t you the grown man that begged Amani Toomer for an autograph and he ignored you? Grow up, dork.
Aren't you the stalker of every post I've ever made and only comment about me, you fucking nutjob? Why don't you go see a therapist and tell him that? You'd be institutionalized or better yet, lobotomized.
I’m also sick of this staff, frankly. The luster has come off. Daboll is obviously fine but the clock has struck midnight on Wink and Kafka
Tye defense plays stupid, predictable and one-dimensional with sell-out blitzes that never get home. The rush defense is somehow a sieve despite at least two studs on the o-line.
The offense is just as vanilla and predictable as it was under Garret/Judge/Kichens. There’s little creativity to get Barkley into space. Instead, we slam him into the line 18-20 times a game. We don’t scheme receivers open. We also have a pair of wrs with height and we never throw any comebacks or back-shoulder fades. It’s as if Kafka is unaware certain routes exist.
What the fuck do you want given the injuries and talent issues? The staff is getting every drop of talent out of what can actually suit up.
Hmmmm, let me think … more creative playcalling on offense and better rush defense. The rush defense has been trash from week 1. The injuries on offense are all the more reason to open up the playbook with something revolutionary… like a back-shoulder fade to a pair of tall wideouts. One of whom is a jump-ball specialist.
To hell with the injuries. Line up and smash them in the mouth.
Too late.. everyone is already injured.
2. Be competitive.
3. Win the game!
Prefer #3, but I'd settle for 1 or 2.
Honestly that locker room is probably psyched to shit…nobody thinks they have a chance. Jihad Ward jacking people up right now
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Nope. Beating the Broncos when they were undefeated is.
I dunno. That was fun.
This hame has playoff implications, is being played on Thanksgiving, and we are massive underdogs in Dallas.
Active list probably smaller for giants LOl
Don’t see us winning this just hope we stay healthy and don’t get embarrassed
We were an average team before the injuries. Hope we can get shit together next week and get back into playoff pic. Right now it’s not looking good
Please no more injuries.
Not being crazy or overreacting it's just Barkley struggles a lot to keep his feet.
Barkley always slips and particularly when receiving. It’s so odd. If he keeps his balance and just goes forward that was a first down
Agreed or a fake punt for once
Agreed. Incidental trip on Slayton was frustrating, he had a decent chance at that ball. I like the aggressive coming out.
He is still alive?
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Barkley always slips and particularly when receiving. It’s so odd. If he keeps his balance and just goes forward that was a first down
That is very true.
Shocker that after he touched the ball 40 times vs hou he looks shot
It really was a great punt..
Yes his 2 catches were awesome
DJ has to throw that ball down the sideline...not make Slayton fight through the CB and bring him back towards the safety. If that ball is down the sideline, it's an easy catch.
but now we have to make something!!
Respect that lol
Sure if he didn't want to look for any receivers first
That was a bullshit penalty
That’s such a stupid rule. He was like a yard past and it was a down field play
32
Yep.
At least we got three.
Phillips was beyond the LOS, but OL usually have to ba few yards further before it gets called.
Agreed that was a fuckn joke
Same here. It's a leaguewide problem.
he wasnt even a yard down field, it was a nitpicky call that happens all the time, the only reason they called it is because the Giants scored
They didn’t give it away - it was taken from them.
Cause he ducking blocked his man well
yeah! 3 yards
As bad as JJ was, still glad Mara didn't hire that bozo
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he was definitely downfield.
Cause he ducking blocked his man well
even if that’s the case, you aren’t allowed to pass block up field like that.
watching the game, he's playing well, with confidence and is sharp.
That grounding call, I strongly believe he thought the play was blown dead.
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he was definitely downfield.
Cause he ducking blocked his man well
I hope whoever threw that flag gets a kidney stone. Robbery.
Weak...but not bullshit. He was 3 yards (maybe 4) downfield. He knew it, that's why he backed up. With that said, pretty ticky-tack call considering he wasn't even blocking anyone.
Two last week…this TD…
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he was definitely downfield.
Cause he ducking blocked his man well
yes but 99% of the time that is not called.
they only showed the downfield angle, but it looked like he was wandering pretty far upfield by the end of it.
agree that it is hardly ever called.
The tackle was more than a yard beyond the LOS for some reason, and Daniel is in his 4th year and should know that he can't just wing the ball out of bounds from inside the pocket when no one is there.
Players need to use their heads.
at least the game will be short
Ineligible man down field on #79.
He got banged up
Neither am I.
Either way bodes well…that’s a helluva break on ball
I initially thought he dropped it.
Seriously. Apparently not. Doubt this stands
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that stands. Can't anybody on this team catch a football cleanly with their hands?
Seriously. Apparently not. Doubt this stands
Wow. Happy to be wrong
nothing apparently
Yep
Tyree Phillips was slightly downfield on a TD play.
Crap
Jones. Misses
We need to keep throwing. Doing it for a few series isn't enough. That's not going to get Dallas out of eight man fronts.
Great play call...poor execution.
We need to keep throwing. Doing it for a few series isn't enough. That's not going to get Dallas out of eight man fronts.
Agree. Keep pushing ball down field to get us some favorable boxes
not sure. watching live i thought james might have slowed the route. on replay i think jones missed.
Rule is one yard
b/c the rule is 1 yard downfield maximium. glad to hear you agree with the call.
1 yard...not 5
Great coverage on both
He slipped trying to reach for the throw.
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Gave up on the route, slowed down and then stumbled. This guy has been hurting the team way too often.
He slipped trying to reach for the throw.
that was on jones. it was a matter of time until having a gimmick qb would hurt us
Attempts are probably 15-2?
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Gave up on the route, slowed down and then stumbled. This guy has been hurting the team way too often.
He slipped trying to reach for the throw.
that was on jones. it was a matter of time until having a gimmick qb would hurt us
kidding btw
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down the field. Rushing yards are 79 to 6.
Attempts are probably 15-2?
11-2. that's still 7.3 npc
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Gave up on the route, slowed down and then stumbled. This guy has been hurting the team way too often.
He slipped trying to reach for the throw.
He was just coming out of his cut, and DJ made a bad throw.
the
middle.
We're just being blown off the LOS. If that continues, Dallas won't need to throw very much, if at all.
the
middle.
We're just being blown off the LOS. If that continues, Dallas won't need to throw very much, if at all.
seemed like a lot of the big plays (3d conversions) were passes.
Nah. The defense isn't playing bad it's just your watching WRs making plays. I know we're not used to it.
The offense needs to wake the fuck up.
And I don’t typically harp on refs but this team is depleted and fighting they can’t overcome the refs too.
National Fixed League lives!
the
middle.
We're just being blown off the LOS. If that continues, Dallas won't need to throw very much, if at all.
This is why I keep saying we need to focus on strengthening the team at the line of scrimmage. WRs and RBs and QBs are great to talk about in the forum here, but the game is won on the line... both sides of the ball.
Lol. Score more than 20 points? Good luck.
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down the field. Rushing yards are 79 to 6.
Attempts are probably 15-2?
11-2. that's still 7.3 npc
This defense has faced A LOT of bad/average offenses. Did you really think Dallas would'nt move the ball today? Gonna be tough for the Giants to stay in this.
DL also being pushed around too.
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Gave up on the route, slowed down and then stumbled. This guy has been hurting the team way too often.
He slipped trying to reach for the throw.
He was just coming out of his cut, and DJ made a bad throw.
Don’t even bother arguing . They lol never admit Jones did anything bad even though my grandma could have made that. Very costly three and out. This guy I’m incapable of playing in the pocket with any consistent play
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down the field. Rushing yards are 79 to 6.
Attempts are probably 15-2?
11-2. that's still 7.3 npc
This defense has faced A LOT of bad/average offenses. Did you really think Dallas would'nt move the ball today? Gonna be tough for the Giants to stay in this.
No I agree. We're overmatched on both sides.
yeah, next year we need a new running backs coach
Great catch by Slayton.
Let’s fucking go! I want a Sack FF from Kayvon this drive.
Our OL is holding up. The offense is looking capable of doing enough. Defense has held its own.
I am glad we scored but I agree with this. Just lineup and win and if you are going to rush the play, don’t do a QB dive into more than a yard
That's what he always does.
Why do you hate to say it?
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hate to say it, but it looked like Slayton caught that pass with his body not his hands.
Why do you hate to say it?
Because it was still a great catch and led to a TD.
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I am glad we scored but I agree with this. Just lineup and win and if you are going to rush the play, don’t do a QB dive into more than a yard
Also I think it might have been able to be reviewed for a TD. Looked like he landed on the guy and slid in
Man if we can score some points today we may have a shot.
I think it’s clear we need a WR in worst way.
Maybe barks can break one here
we could always just let Dallas score. Then, they would never have to punt to James.
When you are AT the game, the commercials are three times as long
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We need to prevent punts. I have a mini-heart attack every time James goes back for a punt.
we could always just let Dallas score. Then, they would never have to punt to James.
Let's do it...WAIT A MINUTE!
MAKE HIM FAIR CATCH EVERYTHING, DABES!!!
Amazing!
Parsons was shot out of a cannon
Parsons is so fast but I was impressed by even that Thomas had got beat badly he was able to move his feet quick enough to get hands on him and allow the quarterback a chance to step up and make a play. Stud versus stud.
He really wasn't beaten, he just pushed the DE further up field. Nothing else a LT can do there.
D has been pretty good. if a good receiver makes great plays in the NFL, the great receiver beats the good defender.
That's what we got galloway for.
No worries. Make up call on Holmes.
but on 3rd and 15 you can’t give him the chance to make the call
+100
It's getting more difficult to watch the NFL.
Nobody would watch it
I’ve been saying for years, why is holding and illegal contact 5 yard penalties but automatic first downs? Replay the down like an offside unless the offense needs less. The answer is to keep offenses moving & scoring but still dumb.
They bring it.
^This.
The Giants are not interested in parking the bus and taking a loss. They came to play. Now do something on offense. With our OL, it's imperative we stay out of third and long.
He's been beasting.
Playing defense against the Cowboys, 15 yard penalty, automatic first down.
Agreed.
So annoying. Just let them play
We need more keeper plays for Jones. Mixing that in is the only way we are going to keep the defense off balance and be effective
Bailed out a shitty throw.
just pathetic. call the timeout and save 20 seconds.
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clearly a good call. Something is going to be called when a defender grabs the jersey.
Bailed out a shitty throw.
Bail out on an obvious call? Disagree. Shitty throw? Agree.
No, it was all on Gates. Saving the TO's gives us flexibility for a run or insurance if DJ is sacked.
He tried.
That result was not terrible. 3 to end the half is a big plus.
Good stuff. Just have to keep the focus and energy for another 30+ mins.
We're also getting pressure on Dak. Thibs had a great half IMO.
On offense, it's clear we can't pass block on regular drop backs. Dallas is right on top of Jones almost immediately. We need to roll him out more and throw on first down to avoid third and long.
We're also getting pressure on Dak. Thibs had a great half IMO.
On offense, it's clear we can't pass block on regular drop backs. Dallas is right on top of Jones almost immediately. We need to roll him out more and throw on first down to avoid third and long.
We need more run plays by Jones and some screen passes..
Did the penalty effect DJ at all?
Not trying to hate on DJ...just curious
I replayed it on my tv and couldn't tell
Great job, by the whole team, top to bottom so far including DJ,
Besides one boneheaded throw, on first down, incomplete.
D, so far is lights out, Wink for life! JK
Did the penalty effect DJ at all?
Not trying to hate on DJ...just curious
I replayed it on my tv and couldn't tell
It was illegal contact on the DB.
They should have called TO after the Jones run. Ended up burning 20 seconds only to then get a false start and have to burn a TO anyway. Took any real shot at a TD away. Shit happens. Managed the lead up to the FG well after that though.
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I think the false start fucked them there. Jones did what we could to get the yards back and get a reasonable kick.
They should have called TO after the Jones run. Ended up burning 20 seconds only to then get a false start and have to burn a TO anyway. Took any real shot at a TD away. Shit happens. Managed the lead up to the FG well after that though.
I was yelling TO TO at the end of that play...
At least it's not rap or auto-tuned generic pop
I called for a 30 - 13 loss and I'm right here buddy.
Finish the game!!!
LET'S GO GIANTS!!!!!!!
+1
He is impacting plays but I think he has a major game changing play coming.
He is impacting plays but I think he has a major game changing play coming.
LFG +1
definitely. Should have 1 TD through the air and up by 17-7.
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Giants always just settle for FGs. Wasted so much time.
That result was not terrible. 3 to end the half is a big plus.
Agree...but with :50 at the opponent 40 after a drive-saving penalty, gotta get a couple shots at the endzone. Terrible clock management by Daboll and DJ. Can't just accept FGs against a good offense.
I'm just starting to hate all music in general. I am getting close to 40 though lol
Yeah. Reserve players are stepping up.
Nick McCloud has been a pleasant surprise when asked to fill in.
Total
bullshit.
can’t bench a guy for a bad call
Why bother watching this shit league with bs penalties and injuries ever ten seconds
Total
bullshit.
kind of odd how these always seem to happen on 3rd and long.
Why bother watching this shit league with bs penalties and injuries ever ten seconds
Agreed. I'm close to turning this off. This is bullshit!
It really is.
Bad throw to Slayton down the sideline for an incompletion, bad throw on 3rd and short, got bailed out on a terrible throw for a pick, and terrible clock management. He didnt play great...Slayton and James with 2 outstanding catches.
It was a clear graze. Plus, Holmes may have also exhaled on him. I hate this BS.
Yep. Cannot wait for the Netflix documentary about it in 12 years.
Lol
Every year
Giants stop Dallas on 3rd
Flag
However, this is just absolutely ridiculous. The refs are stealing the game from the Giants. Blatantly handing it to the Cowboys.
I like Holmes, but it sucks injuries pushed him into this role
Dallas is like 4 for 7 on 3rd down
Dallas is 1st in league on 3rd down conversion.
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League, there is no more doubting it.
I cannot even imagine how insane that would really be
Yep. Cannot wait for the Netflix documentary about it in 12 years.
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A good half
Bad throw to Slayton down the sideline for an incompletion, bad throw on 3rd and short, got bailed out on a terrible throw for a pick, and terrible clock management. He didnt play great...Slayton and James with 2 outstanding catches.
I did not say he played ‘great’. I said I thought he played a good half and I stand by that
I know we got bailed out on the pick but that was a real hold even if it did not have anything to do with the play
However, this is just absolutely ridiculous. The refs are stealing the game from the Giants. Blatantly handing it to the Cowboys.
Clearly you missed last weeks game, no problem. LOL. Fix was in early and often.
Not sure why byes aren’t the week before for these teams. It’s bad enough playing Sunday to Thursday night. Playing Sunday to Thursday at 1 has to be rough
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and my usual take on bad calls is if you make enough plays, then one call should not be the reason why you lose.
However, this is just absolutely ridiculous. The refs are stealing the game from the Giants. Blatantly handing it to the Cowboys.
Clearly you missed last weeks game, no problem. LOL. Fix was in early and often.
No, I was at the game last week. We were dominated on the line of scrimmage. The refs were not the reason why we lost.
Agreed.
Penalty is the reason why they're still in the field
I guess you did not realize that Witten was also a TE
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But also had two chances to stop them on 3rd
Penalty is the reason why they're still in the field
Yep. It was only 5th down.
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But also had two chances to stop them on 3rd
Penalty is the reason why they're still in the field
Yea it was a terrible call. Doesn’t make the other part untrue though
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Not sure why byes aren’t the week before for these teams. It’s bad enough playing Sunday to Thursday night. Playing Sunday to Thursday at 1 has to be rough
I completely agree - but the reason is money.
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and my usual take on bad calls is if you make enough plays, then one call should not be the reason why you lose.
However, this is just absolutely ridiculous. The refs are stealing the game from the Giants. Blatantly handing it to the Cowboys.
Clearly you missed last weeks game, no problem. LOL. Fix was in early and often.
No, I was at the game last week. We were dominated on the line of scrimmage. The refs were not the reason why we lost.
Re-watch the broadcast of the first half. You will change your opinion in the New York minute.
They needed more help in the end zone. We just needed to keep them from getting inside of the 3 yard line. It was either a horrible scheme or the first guy who engaged the TE needed to stay with him and not release.
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But also had two chances to stop them on 3rd
Penalty is the reason why they're still in the field
Penalty isn’t an excuse for the TD there, it was 3rd and long. Gotta get a stop.
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But also had two chances to stop them on 3rd
Penalty is the reason why they're still in the field
Penalty isn’t an excuse for the TD there, it was 3rd and long. Gotta get a stop.
Yeah. It literally is. That play shouldn't have transpired.
Hopefully Dallas D is cold sitting on the sidelines
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But also had two chances to stop them on 3rd
Penalty is the reason why they're still in the field
Penalty isn’t an excuse for the TD there, it was 3rd and long. Gotta get a stop.
Yeah. It literally is. That play shouldn't have transpired.
But they still have up a 3rd and 12 and 3rd and 15. Point is they still had chances to get off the field.
Is he even active?
NYG 16%
DAL 66%
Rushing:
NYG 46yds
DAL 139yds
I spotted him as I was posting.
lets hope not
He’s slow and looks cooked or hurt
That was a garbage throw
Fuck that! What a shitty throw...low and behind him.
Hee is hurting the team
I get the throw but you’re a super start fuckin act like it
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Barkley
That was a garbage throw
He had to navigate the rusher. I dont blame Jones. Barkley has to catch that if he wants to be a player. Have you seen the dallas recievers catch everything.
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done. Very glad we did not sign him.
He’s slow and looks cooked or hurt
He seriously looks like he hit a wall the last two weeks.
Before that drop on 3rd down that’s usually an auto first but got tackled short
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holy shit
Fuck that! What a shitty throw...low and behind him.
LOL - let me guess, you’re a Jones hater.
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holy shit
Fuck that! What a shitty throw...low and behind him.
Very tough catch for a RB, that's not good at catching anyway
Needed a better throw
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holy shit
Fuck that! What a shitty throw...low and behind him.
LOL - let me guess, you’re a Jones hater.
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I am a jones no liker. But that was not on Jones. SB HAS TO CATCH IT.
JFC...the excuses for DJ are pathetic. How's he supposed to stay on his feet when the throw is 1 foot off the ground and behind him. Terrible throw!
And that’s a throw that 99% of the pass catching RB make
yeah I cannot believe they did not throw the flag.
Throws like that are caught every damn game except when its us
Tackle!!!!!!
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His balance is just terrible. Stay on your feet
JFC...the excuses for DJ are pathetic. How's he supposed to stay on his feet when the throw is 1 foot off the ground and behind him. Terrible throw! [/quot
Another Jones hater
On the play itself, not a great throw but Barkley has to catch that
This, not a perfect throw by any means but catch the freaking ball
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holy shit
Fuck that! What a shitty throw...low and behind him.
LOL - let me guess, you’re a Jones hater.
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Jones isn't good enough to have haters
Can I blame both? Do I have your permission?
They want Jones off of the team and they do not care who the replacement is... just as long as it is not Jones.
Back to resining camp for tackle practice
Both players didn’t execute. Bad throw that should have been caught. Two things can be true
Same. Very poorly officiated game.
On the play itself, not a great throw but Barkley has to catch that
Agree. Problem when you keep him in pocket he has to navigate ball so it doesn’t get batted and you are throwing to a RB. Even our practice squad WRs catch that
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holy shit
Fuck that! What a shitty throw...low and behind him.
LOL - let me guess, you’re a Jones hater.
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I am a jones no liker. But that was not on Jones. SB HAS TO CATCH IT.
How do you catch that? ...he's running away from a low and behind throw. Some of you make every excuse for Jones. That throw was terrible...just hit him in the chest on a 2 yard throw!
On the play itself, not a great throw but Barkley has to catch that
I would've liked a designed run for DJ there.
Where’s SOTI?
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done. Very glad we did not sign him.
He’s slow and looks cooked or hurt
He seriously looks like he hit a wall the last two weeks.
Before that drop on 3rd down that’s usually an auto first but got tackled short
He had close to 40 touches against Houston. He isn't a volume back. This is what happens when you run an aging and oft injured back into the ground.
Better get used to Jones because he is staying... I laughed at the ELI haters and the same for Jones.
Plus the Giants only had TEN men on the field...
On the play itself, not a great throw but Barkley has to catch that
It was not a smart call. If you are on the edge of FG territory fine. Not on your own 40 in a one point game. Now they are going to cash in and the game isn’t over but it is now an 8 point game
Poor baby cannot read criticism about a football player he doesn't know personally. Jones blew that throw.
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His balance is just terrible. Stay on your feet
JFC...the excuses for DJ are pathetic. How's he supposed to stay on his feet when the throw is 1 foot off the ground and behind him. Terrible throw! [/quot
Another Jones hater
3rd an1 and 4th and 1 and DJ can't make an accurate 2 yard throw on either. Stop with this crap!
maybe week 1 barkley.
they aren't going to call holding on anything tonight. That's clear.
Better get used to Jones because he is staying... I laughed at the ELI haters and the same for Jones.
Plus the Giants only had TEN men on the field...
Going for it felt like a hail Hail Mary, like when you throw the challenge flag because your pissed
Same. The NFL is a garbage product.
i agree with it. lets be honest. dallas can drive at will right now.
A good throw and that is a TD. Correct call.
Best post of this thread. It's weird lol
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maybe week 1 barkley.
It's at least a 1st down and not a turnover on downs.
if someone else signs him, then who is our QB? do you even have a plan?
I love these ridiculous comments
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That was dumb going for it on 4th down
i agree with it. lets be honest. dallas can drive at will right now.
Jones makes a 5 yard pass it would be for 7 so that was a great call and a bad throw and a bad drop.
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That was dumb going for it on 4th down
A good throw and that is a TD. Correct call.
Yeah we just missed the good throw. Should've known better with Jones as your QB.
2. We went for it on our 40 with a one point deficit. Talk about being impatient we gifted them 7 points
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how the fuck does Daniel jones have simps?
Best post of this thread. It's weird lol
I had to check Urban Dictionary to figure this one out.
No. No it wasn’t.
Barkley needs to catch that ball. Pure and simple.
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Turds
why? Was it a great pass to Barkley?
It hit him in the hands. Was it perfect? No. But it should have been caught
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That was dumb going for it on 4th down
No. No it wasn’t.
Barkley needs to catch that ball. Pure and simple.
Jones needs to make a better throw. Sorry. I know the truth stings.
Spending big money on an RB is never a good idea yea
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That was dumb going for it on 4th down
No. No it wasn’t.
Barkley needs to catch that ball. Pure and simple.
Coming off narrow minded and bigoted. Throw was low and behind. This isn’t exactly an explosive offense
I mean the takeaway is they both fucked up. And it would be dumb to bring either of them back unless its short term
agreed wtf didnt he go with it he was wide open lane. Damn this kids sucks
Everyone says that and I get it because he looks always like the naked bootleg works, but don’t forget the players on the field look for the ball, he won’t be that open when he has it in his hands
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That was dumb going for it on 4th down
No. No it wasn’t.
Barkley needs to catch that ball. Pure and simple.
Coming off narrow minded and bigoted. Throw was low and behind. This isn’t exactly an explosive offense
Whole quarter left...this is not the game by any stretch
Bottom line.
They old ballgame is over anyway if you can’t tell
An under-manned Giants team is doing as well as can be expected.
Can’t ask for more than that.
Yup
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Everyone says that and I get it because he looks always like the naked bootleg works, but don’t forget the players on the field look for the ball, he won’t be that open when he has it in his hands
Not bootleg, Zone reads.
Bottom line.
It’s that simple, but agendas won’t let people say that. It was a poor throw that made it much harder than it should have been. Having said that, it was catchable and Barkely doesn’t have good hands. If it doesn’t hit him between the numbers he probably isn’t catching it.
Bottom line.
+1.
Bottom line.
That’s true. My issue is DJ has thrown out to the right flat 2x before and not been sharp on either. Why did they think on 4th on your side of the field that’s the play?
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That was dumb going for it on 4th down
No. No it wasn’t.
Barkley needs to catch that ball. Pure and simple.
Coming off narrow minded and bigoted. Throw was low and behind. This isn’t exactly an explosive offense
bigoted?
Ok stubborn and dug in on an agenda
We're in QB hell. He's not the guy but good enough to prevent you from drafting a franchise QB.
It's against the angel Dallas Cowboys
They suck ass. Did we keep that same special teams coordinator we've had since the dinosaurs?
With gdd as of the starters gone
Yep. I don’t like Gillan not really his fault today imo.
He had two good punts that got let down by coverage team
Despicable.
Unheard of!!
That was a very good punt. He had hang time and it bounced inside of the 5 and bounced up in the air. The gunners were not fighting to get down there. We could have downed it.
Not just today.
Jones has made plenty of good throws, his shitty receivers can’t catch it.
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That was a very good punt. He had hang time and it bounced inside of the 5 and bounced up in the air. The gunners were not fighting to get down there. We could have downed it.
Should have had two downed inside the 5 today
We're out of gas.
Giants about 210
Live by the Wink, die by the Wink.
No one cares
We're out of gas.
Who cares? This offense doesn't score points.
Live by the Wink, die by the Wink.
How exactly should Wink adjust with that secondary?
Live by the Wink, die by the Wink.
The defense is the only reason this game was even close at one point
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Where is that guy who was talking shit on fans for their realistic predictions earlier?
No one cares
Who the fuck do you speak for? The village? Fuck off twerp.
What are we blaming the officials for? Dallas has been flagged a lot…we are getting smoked….
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and 23 and they convert easily.
We're out of gas.
Who cares? This offense doesn't score points.
Yeah, who cares? Idiot..
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Bad job of adjusting by him.
Live by the Wink, die by the Wink.
How exactly should Wink adjust with that secondary?
Have you seen what he’s been doing all game on 3rd and longs?
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and 23 and they convert easily.
We're out of gas.
Who cares? This offense doesn't score points.
Sadly this is a pretty good point
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Bad job of adjusting by him.
Live by the Wink, die by the Wink.
The defense is the only reason this game was even close at one point
Dallas has 425 yards of offense.
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Bad job of adjusting by him.
Live by the Wink, die by the Wink.
How exactly should Wink adjust with that secondary?
Exactly. They have practice squad CBs in there. All teams have injuries, but not as bad as the Giants.
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Bad job of adjusting by him.
Live by the Wink, die by the Wink.
How exactly should Wink adjust with that secondary?
Exactly! Can't blame the defense on this one. Offense couldn't score or stay on the field. Banged up defense did all they could until they got worn down from being on the field all game.
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Bad job of adjusting by him.
Live by the Wink, die by the Wink.
How exactly should Wink adjust with that secondary?
Have you seen what he’s been doing all game on 3rd and longs?
I was hoping to hear your suggestions. It seems you think it’s so simple, I’m sure you can give us some of yours
He is playing his ass off.
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Where is that guy who was talking shit on fans for their realistic predictions earlier?
No one cares
Who the fuck do you speak for? The village? Fuck off twerp.
Do you want a cookie for predicting our favorite team gets blown out? Like seriously, people like you make this website worse
Ugh... But, like I said this morning, we need to come out of this as healthy as possible and many signs that we are going to be better with players back. Thibs is so close..man if we only had Ojulari playing opposite him...
Any fan who doesn't have this view is gonna have a rough night. Get ready for Washington. I'd sit Barkley tonight.
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In comment 15920728 Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy said:
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Bad job of adjusting by him.
Live by the Wink, die by the Wink.
The defense is the only reason this game was even close at one point
Dallas has 425 yards of offense.
Didn’t they only have 160 at half? The defense is missing their two best guys in the secondary and have faced 21 more plays. The offense hasn’t done the defense any favors
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In comment 15920734 GiantGrit said:
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In comment 15920727 thefan said:
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Where is that guy who was talking shit on fans for their realistic predictions earlier?
No one cares
Who the fuck do you speak for? The village? Fuck off twerp.
Do you want a cookie for predicting our favorite team gets blown out? Like seriously, people like you make this website worse
Sensitive. Sounds like you needed more participation trophies growing up.
The Saquon drop/DJ poor throw/10 men on offense....
We will not be good again until we can beat them.
The refs aren’t even a top 5 reason we lost.
These fucks are just laughing at us now.
I would say just bad execution by QB and RB our 2 best players.
Hard to beat em when you have half a team, your star running back shits bed, and worst of all ref is a cowboy fan
That phantom penalty on Holmes changed entire game
Dallas has way more talent and they are not all banged up
Say what you want, I don't think Barkley runs hard. Has he broken any tackles today? I haven't seen it.
Gates at center is a big improvement.
Thibs playing very well.
This. It's so frustrating to watch so tired of it
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Too many key injuries. I'll give them a thumbs up for the first half, but Dallas made adjustments and keyed off Flott in the 2nd half. At least 7-4 is still over 500. Time to get better for Washington next game.
Any fan who doesn't have this view is gonna have a rough night. Get ready for Washington. I'd sit Barkley tonight.
Just tonight?
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In comment 15920728 Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy said:
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Bad job of adjusting by him.
Live by the Wink, die by the Wink.
How exactly should Wink adjust with that secondary?
Have you seen what he’s been doing all game on 3rd and longs?
I was hoping to hear your suggestions. It seems you think it’s so simple, I’m sure you can give us some of yours
Cover zero blitz on 3rd and goals from the 15, 3rd and longs all game long. It’s extremely predictable. It’s Wink’s MO. But after you see it being burned 4 times already, maybe do something different the 5th time?
me too. it's getting very old.
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In comment 15920743 thefan said:
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In comment 15920734 GiantGrit said:
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In comment 15920727 thefan said:
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Where is that guy who was talking shit on fans for their realistic predictions earlier?
No one cares
Who the fuck do you speak for? The village? Fuck off twerp.
Do you want a cookie for predicting our favorite team gets blown out? Like seriously, people like you make this website worse
Sensitive. Sounds like you needed more participation trophies growing up.
I’m not the one wanting praise for predicting what 99 percent of the world also predicted. Go be an asshole somewhere else
Agree that Barkley looks like he's hit a wall.
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In comment 15920743 thefan said:
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In comment 15920734 GiantGrit said:
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In comment 15920727 thefan said:
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Where is that guy who was talking shit on fans for their realistic predictions earlier?
No one cares
Who the fuck do you speak for? The village? Fuck off twerp.
Do you want a cookie for predicting our favorite team gets blown out? Like seriously, people like you make this website worse
Sensitive. Sounds like you needed more participation trophies growing up.
Lol coming from the guy who wants notoriety for picking the Giants to lose a game they were obviously underdogs. Congrats on the genius pick!
The refs aren’t a top 5 reason the game is the way it is right now?
Dallas has way more talent and they are not all banged up
Say what you want, I don't think Barkley runs hard. Has he broken any tackles today? I haven't seen it.
Gates at center is a big improvement.
Thibs playing very well.
Barkley has stutter stepper or hopped every single time he's approached the LOS tonight.
Where are the RPO’s?
Where is the Wildcat?
Where are the designed runs for Jones?
we are limited at qb, wr, te ,ol and this version of Barkley sucks too
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In comment 15920728 Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy said:
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Bad job of adjusting by him.
Live by the Wink, die by the Wink.
How exactly should Wink adjust with that secondary?
Have you seen what he’s been doing all game on 3rd and longs?
I was hoping to hear your suggestions. It seems you think it’s so simple, I’m sure you can give us some of yours
Cover zero blitz on 3rd and goals from the 15, 3rd and longs all game long. It’s extremely predictable. It’s Wink’s MO. But after you see it being burned 4 times already, maybe do something different the 5th time?
How many cover zeros have the giants called on third and long?
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we are limited at qb, wr, te ,ol and this version of Barkley sucks too
maybe you can watch reruns of The View instead
The refs aren’t a top 5 reason the game is the way it is right now?
They aren’t. The refs aren’t why we’re 1-8 on third down. Why we can’t run the ball. Or the fact we have probably our top 4 in the secondary if you count Robinson out with injury. Refs didn’t make Saqoun drop that pass, etc.
We need to move the chains... Cannot have low percentage plays at this point in the game. We MUST score a TD here
Even Olsen is saying this
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me too. it's getting very old.
Agree.
I’m also sick of this staff, frankly. The luster has come off. Daboll is obviously fine but the clock has struck midnight on Wink and Kafka
Tye defense plays stupid, predictable and one-dimensional with sell-out blitzes that never get home. The rush defense is somehow a sieve despite at least two studs on the o-line.
The offense is just as vanilla and predictable as it was under Garret/Judge/Kichens. There’s little creativity to get Barkley into space. Instead, we slam him into the line 18-20 times a game. We don’t scheme receivers open. We also have a pair of wrs with height and we never throw any comebacks or back-shoulder fades. It’s as if Kafka is unaware certain routes exist.
I think so. Parsons is incredibly quick, but Thomas looks slow. He was questionable coming into the game.
That’s not an excuse
on this drive is baffling. They are acting like they are up by 2 TD’s
Boys not ready for the big time.
Now they know how it feels like to be you.
Next Sunday is huge and so is the mini-bye.
Who?
That was fucking stupid. It's like the Giants don't have a 2 minute offense. Running down 15 with zero tempo. They must have no faith in DJ. That's crazy!
Ps Fuck Gettleman for not drafting Parsons
It’s just too many injuries. You can only run horizontal bootlegs so many times.
and at this point, as much as this team has already exceeded win expectations, collapsing end of season is a big red flag for this new regime.
We were locked in to a game plan as a necessity no matter score or time..
We were locked in to a game plan as a necessity no matter score or time..
I can. How much time did we kill running the ball on that drive?
Is hardly surprising.
Washington next week.
Big game.
It’s just too many injuries. You can only run horizontal bootlegs so many times.
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But some self inflicted wounds too.
There were a few plays.
- The negated touchdown in the first half.
- Giving up a TD on 3rd & Goal from the 15.
- The Barkley play.
There was some other bullshit with the refs, but this team just can't score. 13 points has got to be a low for the season.
That was a terrible pass...just hit him in the chest and it's a big gain. Two terrible throws by DJ and 2 drives don't stall.
So do I. We could have had him, but no The Giants Org kept DG who put this Franchise back for years.. It's almost a crime what DG did to this franchise.
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me too. it's getting very old.
Agree.
I’m also sick of this staff, frankly. The luster has come off. Daboll is obviously fine but the clock has struck midnight on Wink and Kafka
Tye defense plays stupid, predictable and one-dimensional with sell-out blitzes that never get home. The rush defense is somehow a sieve despite at least two studs on the o-line.
The offense is just as vanilla and predictable as it was under Garret/Judge/Kichens. There’s little creativity to get Barkley into space. Instead, we slam him into the line 18-20 times a game. We don’t scheme receivers open. We also have a pair of wrs with height and we never throw any comebacks or back-shoulder fades. It’s as if Kafka is unaware certain routes exist.
The defense is missing it’s two best players on the back end.
Kafka has called awful games two of the last three games. Jones doesn’t run, no more RPO, and they stopped using Wildcat
Ps Fuck Gettleman for not drafting Parsons
Can we please stop reliving Gettleman’s stupidity. Trying really hard to forget that they ever hired that destructive bozo.
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Now they know how it feels like to be you.
Aren't you the guy who everyone called out for being a pussy asswipe? Yeah, your opinion means shit, you fucking mongoloid.
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on 4th down. All he had to do was hold on and fall down. That gave Dallas a short field and set up their go ahead TD. Entire game changed there.
That was a terrible pass...just hit him in the chest and it's a big gain. Two terrible throws by DJ and 2 drives don't stall.
If that ball is ahead of him it looks like 90 is sitting directly in passing lane on that replay.
We were locked in to a game plan as a necessity no matter score or time..
They wasted way to much time on that drive
They've been on the field the whole game? What do you expect? Look at snaps and TOP.
Ps Fuck Gettleman for not drafting Parsons
Too much talent and a lot of ours is out.
Beat down by Dallas in second half hardly surprising
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In comment 15920772 Anakim said:
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me too. it's getting very old.
Agree.
I’m also sick of this staff, frankly. The luster has come off. Daboll is obviously fine but the clock has struck midnight on Wink and Kafka
Tye defense plays stupid, predictable and one-dimensional with sell-out blitzes that never get home. The rush defense is somehow a sieve despite at least two studs on the o-line.
The offense is just as vanilla and predictable as it was under Garret/Judge/Kichens. There’s little creativity to get Barkley into space. Instead, we slam him into the line 18-20 times a game. We don’t scheme receivers open. We also have a pair of wrs with height and we never throw any comebacks or back-shoulder fades. It’s as if Kafka is unaware certain routes exist.
What the fuck do you want given the injuries and talent issues? The staff is getting every drop of talent out of what can actually suit up.
They love calling PI.
The peanut gallery has arrived.
Fuck Beckham too
Should be surprised at the outcome of this game
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We are beyond limited and anything else and we are exposing Jones etc to injury and complete destruction.
We were locked in to a game plan as a necessity no matter score or time..
I can. How much time did we kill running the ball on that drive?
They have no option, we are running and gimmicking our way through plays. Say what you want but our offense is just plain vanilla and our best player (Barkley) continues to come up small.
Should be surprised at the outcome of this game
Agreed
Brightwell looks more explosive and runs harder and he is a back up.
Barkley didn't get his contract extension. Looks like he is playing not to get hurt.
Down on Barkley. Better places to spend money in areas of need. Very disappointing.
Should be surprised at the outcome of this game
After the first half, we had reason to believe we could get an unexpected surprise
Whatever it is, let’s hope he makes the right decision on Jones also.
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Should be surprised at the outcome of this game
Agreed
third. easy loss to take of the season for me.
Unfortunately it looks like Barkley went over 200 carries and turned into a pumpkin.
Fuck you.
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In comment 15920857 Anakim said:
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Now they know how it feels like to be you.
Aren't you the guy who everyone called out for being a pussy asswipe? Yeah, your opinion means shit, you fucking mongoloid.
You went to law school????
This is a 3-14 team. They won 7 games because other teams, especially in the first 7 games, did not believe they could lose to this team.
Now they do, and they play like they do.
It’s a multi year (3-4 years) to make this a playoff team. The QB position is not even an issue until there are 15-16 NFL caliber players at the other positions.
I’m very impressed that they have the leadership (finally) at HC and hopefully GM to make a winning team here, but if you thought this was that team you were an idiot.
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3 long drives for TDs.
They've been on the field the whole game? What do you expect? Look at snaps and TOP.
Yes, but half of that is the defenses own fault. The defense doesn't stop them at all, so of course they are on the field a lot. Also yes, the offense didn't sustain drives to give them a break. So its not all the offenses fault.
Only Dallas stopped itself on offense
In the second half no one stopped their offense
Playcalling was exactly what I wanted early in the game. They got away with it to establish the run, but we all knew that was never gonna happen. Kafka didn't get the memo?
And fuck you, too.
Should be surprised at the outcome of this game
True. This offense does blow.
If I was a psychic, and you said the Giants were losing, and I was asked who they playing or where, I’d answer Dallas.
They can’t fellate that team enough.
Brightwell looks more explosive and runs harder and he is a back up.
Barkley didn't get his contract extension. Looks like he is playing not to get hurt.
Down on Barkley. Better places to spend money in areas of need. Very disappointing.
This isn’t a heat of the moment hot take. But you’re 100% right. Barkleys been great this year but pollard shows you you can get a good rb late for a fraction of the cost. The team has so many holes and places where money could be better spent. It’s not hate, it’s economics
Jones was getting pressed easier said than done.
Dallas adjusted as we allowed lamb to be burn us and thier TE provided a Whiten flashback.
This is a 3-14 team. They won 7 games because other teams, especially in the first 7 games, did not believe they could lose to this team.
Now they do, and they play like they do.
It’s a multi year (3-4 years) to make this a playoff team. The QB position is not even an issue until there are 15-16 NFL caliber players at the other positions.
I’m very impressed that they have the leadership (finally) at HC and hopefully GM to make a winning team here, but if you thought this was that team you were an idiot.
Well said.
This is a 3-14 team. They won 7 games because other teams, especially in the first 7 games, did not believe they could lose to this team.
Now they do, and they play like they do.
It’s a multi year (3-4 years) to make this a playoff team. The QB position is not even an issue until there are 15-16 NFL caliber players at the other positions.
I’m very impressed that they have the leadership (finally) at HC and hopefully GM to make a winning team here, but if you thought this was that team you were an idiot.
If they won 7 games, this is not a 3-14 team
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There is nobody on this offense that can’t be replaced next year. Barkley looks nothing like that player he was earlier in the year. Nobody else.really an NFL starter level talent.
Unfortunately it looks like Barkley went over 200 carries and turned into a pumpkin.
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Now they know how it feels like to be you.
Aren't you the guy who everyone called out for being a pussy asswipe? Yeah, your opinion means shit, you fucking mongoloid.
You went to law school????
Fuck you, Tuna. Every single post he's ever made targets me because he doesn't know the song "Tom Dooley", so shut the fuck up.
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Now they know how it feels like to be you.
Aren't you the guy who everyone called out for being a pussy asswipe? Yeah, your opinion means shit, you fucking mongoloid.
Aren’t you the grown man that begged Amani Toomer for an autograph and he ignored you? Grow up, dork.
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Now they know how it feels like to be you.
Aren't you the guy who everyone called out for being a pussy asswipe? Yeah, your opinion means shit, you fucking mongoloid.
You went to law school????
Hobbs - ( New Window )
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Now they know how it feels like to be you.
Aren't you the guy who everyone called out for being a pussy asswipe? Yeah, your opinion means shit, you fucking mongoloid.
Aren’t you the grown man that begged Amani Toomer for an autograph and he ignored you? Grow up, dork.
Aren't you the stalker of every post I've ever made and only comment about me, you fucking nutjob? Why don't you go see a therapist and tell him that? You'd be institutionalized or better yet, lobotomized.
And on cue, there is his specialty- the garbage time td throw.
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Jones isn't a franchise QB. Let's hope not lol
I was being facetious. He will be elsewhere next season. He is what he is and these guys are going to screw around any longer with him.
And on cue, there is his specialty- the garbage time td throw.
I know
Yep. I used to think this fan base was smart. I no longer think that.
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Who have anything bad to say about this undermanned, overmatched team wh left it all out there.
Be quiet little boy and let the adults talk. Jesus what a crybaby.
Go fuck yourselve.
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Who have anything bad to say about this undermanned, overmatched team wh left it all out there.
Be quiet little boy and let the adults talk. Jesus what a crybaby.
Go fuck yourselve.
No. I’m sorry. Go fuck yourselve twice.
I think he is a good qb but not a high enough to franchise and get a team to a super all. If we want mediocre then fine.
Happy Thanksgiving
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me too. it's getting very old.
Agree.
I’m also sick of this staff, frankly. The luster has come off. Daboll is obviously fine but the clock has struck midnight on Wink and Kafka
Tye defense plays stupid, predictable and one-dimensional with sell-out blitzes that never get home. The rush defense is somehow a sieve despite at least two studs on the o-line.
The offense is just as vanilla and predictable as it was under Garret/Judge/Kichens. There’s little creativity to get Barkley into space. Instead, we slam him into the line 18-20 times a game. We don’t scheme receivers open. We also have a pair of wrs with height and we never throw any comebacks or back-shoulder fades. It’s as if Kafka is unaware certain routes exist.
What the fuck do you want given the injuries and talent issues? The staff is getting every drop of talent out of what can actually suit up.
Hmmmm, let me think … more creative playcalling on offense and better rush defense. The rush defense has been trash from week 1. The injuries on offense are all the more reason to open up the playbook with something revolutionary… like a back-shoulder fade to a pair of tall wideouts. One of whom is a jump-ball specialist.