Hopefully I am allowed to start this thread. Many issues with the team again. Between an anemic offense and a defense giving up big plays, you cannot beat a good team. However, overlay officiating that is criminal, you have no chance.
That said, I also think the coaches had another bad game. Two stinkers in a row for our coaches on both offense and defense.
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This team is dealing with 3rd and 4th strings against the 2nd best defensive in the league.
They played well and were in the game until the 4th quarter.
The defense held strong today against an offense that has been on fire with once again 3rd string CB's
Coaching game plan was well put together and Jones played smart.
They were keying on Barkley.
Wink is going to drive you crazy in games but I will tell you he hit Prescott alot today and forced him off his spot more than once.
I am not sure most of understand how limited this team is talentwise. We had 7 practice squad players on offense today .
Defense did their part for as long as they could. Horrible awareness to allow the td on 3rd and goal from about the 15 though on the one drive
Thibs has to make that sack on the start of the 2nd half. To whiff on Dak right there was brutal and they would have gotten the ball right there.
I thought thibs’ missed sack was in the 1st half
The majority of the crowd here likes his speed and getting close. To me he’s a poor man’s osi. Time will tell but he’s a speed demon, not so strong, non 2 way DE… anyone that thinks he’s gonna compare to a JPP year 2 to year 2 is out of their bird imo. Parsons can light the world on fire from the get go but we have to wait till year 3 or 4 for him to “develop”. He’s a top 5 pick. Take over a game
He settled down and seemed good.
On the Holmes penalty, Dallas ended up scoring a touchdown. It was third and long and they likely punt there or kick a very long field goal. How does that not change the outcome?
The illegal man downfield penalty almost never gets called there, he was 2 yards downfield. That was a 4 point swing.
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That Prescott had, the Giants would have won this game easily.
Dak was just throwing balls in CeeDee Lamb's direction every 3rd and long. Maybe if Jones had a CeeDee Lamb he could have done better.
The majority of the crowd here likes his speed and getting close. To me he’s a poor man’s osi. Time will tell but he’s a speed demon, not so strong, non 2 way DE… anyone that thinks he’s gonna compare to a JPP year 2 to year 2 is out of their bird imo. Parsons can light the world on fire from the get go but we have to wait till year 3 or 4 for him to “develop”. He’s a top 5 pick. Take over a game
Not all players develop at the same rate. Parsons is a tremendous player - a true freak. He flat out beat Thomas twice for sacks and just missed a third.
Thibs looks like he will get there, before long. Needs greater strength, no doubt.
Thibs plays the run much better than Osi.
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That Prescott had, the Giants would have won this game easily.
Dak was just throwing balls in CeeDee Lamb's direction every 3rd and long. Maybe if Jones had a CeeDee Lamb he could have done better.
I assume you don’t think Golladay could be that guy…..but I think when we got him, we all thought he could be that guy.
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Daniel Jones on the 4th down: “Just a bad throw. I gotta get it out in front of him. Bad throw. Can’t miss that.”
Saquon Barkley on the 4th down: “I gotta make that play. That’s it. I just gotta make the play.”
Having said that, Jones and Barkley came up small. Jones missed several easy throws to the right flat that would have changed the game.
Look at how Barkley runs compared to Brightwell, Zeke, and Pollard. He just doesn't run hard and never has. I can't remember Barkley ever breaking a tackle. No way he should be resigned. Compare Barkley to Meggett and Bradshaw who were much smaller but ran much harder. I want a back that lowers the shoulder and breaks tackles. A back who delivers the blow.
As for Jones, I have been a supporter, but if we keep him you have to build a wall around him. He is not going to carry team on his arm. Our interior line is not good. We need a bunch of mauling 340 pound guards.
Hard to be competitive on defense with so many injuries, our secondary especially. Our inside backers suck also. So effectively we cannot cover any decent receiving targets, meaning tight ends, backs, receivers. So Wink dials up pressure because give a QB time and his receivers will get open.
By the way did anyone notice the catches the Dallas receivers repeatedly made compared to the Giant receivers. Night and day.
It sucks but we are many players away from a good team. It's almost too bad we did not trade barkley at the deadline. I realize we are still in a playoff hunt but we need as many draft picks as possible.
we have to build from the trenches out. until we can control the trenches we are not going to be a playoff caliber team.
Complaining about the refs is embarrassing. 0 second half points until garbage time is why they lost this game. The refs weren’t even in the top 5 reasons.
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Daniel Jones on the 4th down: “Just a bad throw. I gotta get it out in front of him. Bad throw. Can’t miss that.”
Saquon Barkley on the 4th down: “I gotta make that play. That’s it. I just gotta make the play.”
And in the end, we all lose.
Jones short to intermediate passes today were ugly as sin. That said, Barkley has looked lost for 2 weeks.
But this wasn't a 30-3 wipeout that could have caused real confidence issues.
A year ago we would not have scored in this game and lost by 30.
We were leading a halftime!
This team really get up for daboll and it not playing scared or not get blown out, they think they can win every game.
Thibs played a great game today and was in Prescott's face all day.
These game actually gave me hope we can steal some games down the stretch
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That Prescott had, the Giants would have won this game easily.
Dak was just throwing balls in CeeDee Lamb's direction every 3rd and long. Maybe if Jones had a CeeDee Lamb he could have done better.
you guys act like the NFL is your local flag tag league. dak can read a defense and knows where he is going with the ball. Jones can’t do either.
Yeah, you can tell Dak reads defenses well - his two shitty INTs proved it. I suppose being able to just throw a ball in Lamb's vicinity shows his supreme skillz reading the defense. Everytime you post nonsense like this you prove your football acuity.
And yes, Jones missed about 4 open throws today. It may be the nail in his coffin with the Giants. Missing Barkley on the 4th and 1 was about as bad a throw you can make.
That was the biggest crock of SH** call I've seen in quite a while. And I'm not sure the Darnay Holmes crucial holding call was much better. Just sucks. It's hard enough to play this game even up, even harder when you're down a dozen starters, and even worse still when you're up against bullshit ref calls.
Teams deal with bad calls every single game, every single week. NFL officiating sucks. Make a play and get off the field so the penalty doesn’t matter. They had a chance to and didn’t.
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Daniel Jones on the 4th down: “Just a bad throw. I gotta get it out in front of him. Bad throw. Can’t miss that.”
Saquon Barkley on the 4th down: “I gotta make that play. That’s it. I just gotta make the play.”
What we have is an idiot on another thread saying the ball was at Barkley's ankles.
HE has to catch the ball- period.
Blast away at Jones any way you want but Barkley has got to catch that ball.
Okay don't sign Jones next year but this year - today - this game SB has to catch that ball. Giving SB an excuse like that moron tried to is extreme.
Dabal can say anything he wants. He's shown to be a very good coach thus far.
You need to break your habit of pretending like you want to dictate what Dabal should say in his postgames.
They were at the 37. They probably weren’t punting or kicking a field goal, they went for it on their own 40 because they had little respect for the Giants offense. They were going for that if it wasn’t for the penalty and the Giants would have had to make a stop again. The penalty had a tiny role in why they lost today.
Teams deal with bad calls every single game, every single week. NFL officiating sucks. Make a play and get off the field so the penalty doesn’t matter. They had a chance to and didn’t.
The hold on Holmes extended a drive, so yeah it made a difference in the game. That is not whining.
Was the Phillips call a cheapie? Yes it was, but at least it was really a penalty by the rule book.
Yes he is. I don't kwwo what he said - he's already made a couple of laughable posts. But to answer - yes- he is clueless.
Teams deal with bad calls every single game, every single week. NFL officiating sucks. Make a play and get off the field so the penalty doesn’t matter. They had a chance to and didn’t.
The Giants got beat because they were butchered, chopped up and eaten on both sides of the line of scrimmage. No doubt about that. But the ref calls in this game still sucked and certainly did not help matters any.
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Daniel Jones on the 4th down: “Just a bad throw. I gotta get it out in front of him. Bad throw. Can’t miss that.”
Saquon Barkley on the 4th down: “I gotta make that play. That’s it. I just gotta make the play.”
What we have is an idiot on another thread saying the ball was at Barkley's ankles.
HE has to catch the ball- period.
Blast away at Jones any way you want but Barkley has got to catch that ball.
Okay don't sign Jones next year but this year - today - this game SB has to catch that ball. Giving SB an excuse like that moron tried to is extreme.
Low, at his ankles. Who cares. It was a shit throw and it should have been caught. Who is saying different? One guy is getting more shit for it than the other. Both guys fucked up.
We had excuses this week calling a 4th down interception just like a punt and low vs ankles is what has you riled up?
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It’s not why they lost. Why are we crying about it still?
Teams deal with bad calls every single game, every single week. NFL officiating sucks. Make a play and get off the field so the penalty doesn’t matter. They had a chance to and didn’t.
The hold on Holmes extended a drive, so yeah it made a difference in the game. That is not whining.
Was the Phillips call a cheapie? Yes it was, but at least it was really a penalty by the rule book.
It makes way less of a difference when you let them convert two third and longs later in the drive, one for a touchdown.
Missing a that short of a pass by that much is terrible. But as Barkley said, he still could've caught it.
Missing a that short of a pass by that much is terrible. But as Barkley said, he still could've caught it.
Jones short passes even earlier in the game were off. That was a terrible pass on a wide open route. I do not blame Barkley on that throw. Would have been a tremendous catch had he made it.
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That still could've been caught.
Missing a that short of a pass by that much is terrible. But as Barkley said, he still could've caught it.
Jones short passes even earlier in the game were off. That was a terrible pass on a wide open route. I do not blame Barkley on that throw. Would have been a tremendous catch had he made it.
What a complete bullshit post you make. First off you bring up an irrelevant point about "earlier in the game" when the issue you replied to was THAT pass. What the fuck does "earlier in the game" have ot with that pass?
Instead you just want to just make another dig on Jones.
Tremendous catch? hahhahahhaa lmao.
Some you Jones haters are so full of shit. It's okay don't sign him. But the crap you haters post is unreal.
Having said that, Jones and Barkley came up small. Jones missed several easy throws to the right flat that would have changed the game.
Look at how Barkley runs compared to Brightwell, Zeke, and Pollard. He just doesn't run hard and never has. I can't remember Barkley ever breaking a tackle. No way he should be resigned. Compare Barkley to Meggett and Bradshaw who were much smaller but ran much harder. I want a back that lowers the shoulder and breaks tackles. A back who delivers the blow.
As for Jones, I have been a supporter, but if we keep him you have to build a wall around him. He is not going to carry team on his arm. Our interior line is not good. We need a bunch of mauling 340 pound guards.
Hard to be competitive on defense with so many injuries, our secondary especially. Our inside backers suck also. So effectively we cannot cover any decent receiving targets, meaning tight ends, backs, receivers. So Wink dials up pressure because give a QB time and his receivers will get open.
By the way did anyone notice the catches the Dallas receivers repeatedly made compared to the Giant receivers. Night and day.
It sucks but we are many players away from a good team. It's almost too bad we did not trade barkley at the deadline. I realize we are still in a playoff hunt but we need as many draft picks as possible.
we have to build from the trenches out. until we can control the trenches we are not going to be a playoff caliber team.
Did you watch him as a rookie? He threw ppl off him as though he was a silverback
They either miss it or it’s 13-10 Giants.
Changed the whole game.
It wasn't at Barkley's ankles. It's bullshit you even say that. Complete bullshit.
It’s like blaming the ump because the first strike call was really a ball, but you stared at two fast balls down the middle.
Who do you think you're kidding here? We have eyes.
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It was also behind him. Jones threw several terrible short passes in the flats today.
It wasn't at Barkley's ankles. It's bullshit you even say that. Complete bullshit.
Ok, below his knees....it was as bad a throw as I have seen to a wide open player. I saw exactly what Greg saw - Jones' short passes were terrible today. I think he may have doomed his chances at a new contract with today's performance.
This is the NFL. That was an easy catch and Barkley looked like an uncoordinated egg trying to deal with it.
We absolutely couldn't go fast as our Oline was getting exposed in obvious passing downs. We were relegated to running, running rollouts etc and straight drop back just wasn't happening.
6 games to make a run but know that we are looking for a QB in the off-season along with WR's , another TE and maybe a G.
It’s like blaming the ump because the first strike call was really a ball, but you stared at two fast balls down the middle.
Well almost everyone disagrees with you...
This is the NFL. That was an easy catch and Barkley looked like an uncoordinated egg trying to deal with it.
He should have caught it, but it certainly wasn’t an easy catch.
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It was also behind him. Jones threw several terrible short passes in the flats today.
It wasn't at Barkley's ankles. It's bullshit you even say that. Complete bullshit.
I heard there was a professor at Duke that gave Jones a B on a paper one time. You should call him up and yell at him. Get Daniel that A he deserved
This is the NFL. That was an easy catch and Barkley looked like an uncoordinated egg trying to deal with it.
ok then...
How’d it not count for much? It was a 14-13 game.
What? It was a huge play in the game.
You are not wrong. They only had a handful of draft picks. Beavers blew his knee out. The rest of the ILBs suck. That is where they are getting blown up. They can only correct so many things in one off season without any money against the cap.
Daniel Jones proved yet again that he can't carry a team on his back. Yes, the talent around him is weak, but there were plays to be made out there that he simply didn't make.