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In all seriousness, if you are Joe Schoen

Mark from Jersey : 11/24/2022 8:01 pm
there is no way you dedicate any big money/future contracts to either Daniel Jones or Saquon Barkley.

Barkley played like a complete pussy, especially in the second half. Give me Brightwell and Bredia all day over this fairy two stepper who is afraid to finish off a run.

Jones was a deer in headlights, again, and seemed hesitant to run, again, this week when the opportunity presented itself.

7 wins is a façade. Time to let these guys go and rebuild for real.
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You Have No Idea  
Bob in Vt : 11/24/2022 8:03 pm : link
If Saquon is dealing with injuries right now. Personally, I think he is hurting right now.
Agree  
drake88 : 11/24/2022 8:03 pm : link
100%
Good thing  
Jonesin 4 A Ship : 11/24/2022 8:03 pm : link
you dont have any stupid knee jerk reactions
Put  
NJ-GMenFan : 11/24/2022 8:03 pm : link
The drinks down and relax. NOBODY expected a win today
RE: You Have No Idea  
terz22 : 11/24/2022 8:04 pm : link
In comment 15921058 Bob in Vt said:
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If Saquon is dealing with injuries right now. Personally, I think he is hurting right now.


This guy has been pretty much great all year. But he's a fairy whatever
RE: You Have No Idea  
drake88 : 11/24/2022 8:04 pm : link
In comment 15921058 Bob in Vt said:
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If Saquon is dealing with injuries right now. Personally, I think he is hurting right now.


so he's always injured then? makes sense to devote a lot of money to an guy who is always injured at a not very valuable position
RE: You Have No Idea  
Mark from Jersey : 11/24/2022 8:04 pm : link
In comment 15921058 Bob in Vt said:
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If Saquon is dealing with injuries right now. Personally, I think he is hurting right now.
Then why is he on the field?
RBs don’t really make big money  
UConn4523 : 11/24/2022 8:04 pm : link
so saying no without even knowing what the number is makes no sense.
Barkley  
NJ-GMenFan : 11/24/2022 8:05 pm : link
Looks hurt for sure. That shoulder seems to be a thing
...  
broadbandz : 11/24/2022 8:05 pm : link
You offer both team friendly deals, with a chance to see growth under yr two with a new staff. If they walk, its fine.
RE: You Have No Idea  
Sammo85 : 11/24/2022 8:05 pm : link
In comment 15921058 Bob in Vt said:
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If Saquon is dealing with injuries right now. Personally, I think he is hurting right now.


Can’t pay a player premium guarantees when you can’t play full season.
RE: RBs don’t really make big money  
drake88 : 11/24/2022 8:06 pm : link
In comment 15921072 UConn4523 said:
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so saying no without even knowing what the number is makes no sense.


RBs should always be on their first contact
RE: You Have No Idea  
monstercoo : 11/24/2022 8:06 pm : link
In comment 15921058 Bob in Vt said:
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If Saquon is dealing with injuries right now. Personally, I think he is hurting right now.


This was 2 weeks in row that he didn’t seem 100%. I really wish they would pickup on that and use Brieda more. Even Brightwell looked pretty good today.
RE: RE: RBs don’t really make big money  
UConn4523 : 11/24/2022 8:06 pm : link
In comment 15921080 drake88 said:
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so saying no without even knowing what the number is makes no sense.



RBs should always be on their first contact


I love absolutes.
RE: RE: You Have No Idea  
Mark from Jersey : 11/24/2022 8:06 pm : link
In comment 15921079 Sammo85 said:
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In comment 15921058 Bob in Vt said:


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If Saquon is dealing with injuries right now. Personally, I think he is hurting right now.



Can’t pay a player premium guarantees when you can’t play full season.
Exactly. And Ill add when he is healthy is affraid to get hurt. Last week now this week. We are fighting for playoff position and you are turtling before you even get hit? Come on.
I  
NYG123 : 11/24/2022 8:07 pm : link
Don’t think you pay big money or even the franchise tag to Barkley. Just not worth it. Jones, we need to find a better option if he cost more than a backup quarterback. It would be tough sledding, but we’re not ever gonna be where we wanna be with these guys.

Nice guys though!!!
RE: Put  
bwitz : 11/24/2022 8:07 pm : link
In comment 15921064 NJ-GMenFan said:
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…NOBODY expected a win today


You sure about that?
Oy  
Joey in VA : 11/24/2022 8:07 pm : link
Jones isn't the issue right now but I don't expect your monkey ass to realize that. Put down the chardonnay and go to bed you half wit. That box of wine will keep until your hangover fades after the mimosa filled brunch. Dick.
agreed 100% on barkley  
bigblue18 : 11/24/2022 8:08 pm : link
not sure on jones
RE: You Have No Idea  
Justlurking : 11/24/2022 8:09 pm : link
In comment 15921058 Bob in Vt said:
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If Saquon is dealing with injuries right now. Personally, I think he is hurting right now.


Agree with you 100%. Also agree with OP 100% about saquon. That’s the issue with big money RBs. Injured too much. Give me a stable of backs like we had when we won titles. Can’t pay a back 8 figs a season in todays NFL.

Jones is a different story. I think he’s been far better than given credit for this season considering how shot the skill position players are. I think he can be very good with real NFL talent around him. That said, i defer entirely to Daboll and Schoen as they obviously know what they’re doing. I just hope the fucking maras let them make football decisions.
Don’t have a clue what Joe Shoen thinks  
BillT : 11/24/2022 8:09 pm : link
Know for sure you are utterly clueless.
RE: RE: RE: RBs don’t really make big money  
drake88 : 11/24/2022 8:09 pm : link
In comment 15921084 UConn4523 said:
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In comment 15921072 UConn4523 said:


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so saying no without even knowing what the number is makes no sense.



RBs should always be on their first contact



I love absolutes.


the question is do you always love them?
RE: Barkley  
Justlurking : 11/24/2022 8:10 pm : link
In comment 15921074 NJ-GMenFan said:
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Looks hurt for sure. That shoulder seems to be a thing


He was playing with a shocker under his shoulder pads so I’d def say he’s dealing with an injured shoulder. You could see it.

I am glad we do not have any real player evaluators here ...  
DefenseWins : 11/24/2022 8:10 pm : link
making decisions about the following season when we still have a lot of games left to play in this season.
RE: RE: You Have No Idea  
Justlurking : 11/24/2022 8:11 pm : link
In comment 15921083 monstercoo said:
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In comment 15921058 Bob in Vt said:


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If Saquon is dealing with injuries right now. Personally, I think he is hurting right now.



This was 2 weeks in row that he didn’t seem 100%. I really wish they would pickup on that and use Brieda more. Even Brightwell looked pretty good today.


Brightwell runs between the tackles better than saquon or brieda. He’s a keeper.
I agree that Barkley  
fanoftheteam : 11/24/2022 8:11 pm : link
Plays/runs like a pussy…hes light years away from his rookie year… all he cares about is being healthy to cash in on a contract. Breida is making better runs then barkley right now.
Except for calling Barkley a fairy  
Jim in Tampa : 11/24/2022 8:12 pm : link
(which is pretty childish) it's hard to disagree with the OP. Barkley played poorly AGAIN and just like all of last year, he looks like he's afraid to get hit.

And as was mentioned on the telecast, the bad throw by Jones (to Barkley) on 4th down was one of the turning points of the game.

Neither of our 2 offensive "stars" showed up today.
I’m still of the opinion that  
Tim in Eternal Blue : 11/24/2022 8:12 pm : link

you franchise Barkley, you let Jones walk and try to draft both their replacements in April.
RE: Oy  
Sean : 11/24/2022 8:12 pm : link
In comment 15921089 Joey in VA said:
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Jones isn't the issue right now but I don't expect your monkey ass to realize that. Put down the chardonnay and go to bed you half wit. That box of wine will keep until your hangover fades after the mimosa filled brunch. Dick.

He’s a pending free agent. “Not the issue” isn’t really the point. The point is are you going to invest big and resign him.

Lose the insults. Especially after everyone was nice to you with your wedding thread.
RE: I am glad we do not have any real player evaluators here ...  
fanoftheteam : 11/24/2022 8:13 pm : link
In comment 15921109 DefenseWins said:
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making decisions about the following season when we still have a lot of games left to play in this season.



Idk. The OP is right.. now that Barkley made his mark for the year to cash in on 15 mill a year - he took his pedal off the gas. I dont find him as a hungry/team guy based on interviews and he does play like a total pussy
RE: ...  
Ned In Atlanta : 11/24/2022 8:14 pm : link
In comment 15921076 broadbandz said:
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You offer both team friendly deals, with a chance to see growth under yr two with a new staff. If they walk, its fine.


This. Im fine with letting either/both walk. Also fine bringing either/both back at the right price. Neither are worthy of anything close to top of the market with significant guaranteed money.
I’d still take Barkley  
ajr2456 : 11/24/2022 8:15 pm : link
At his franchise tag number
Both players I’d be interested in keeping at certain prices  
UConn4523 : 11/24/2022 8:16 pm : link
However, I wouldn’t keep either player at mega deals but neither will command that, IMO.

So where’s the middle ground? I have no idea but not even entertaining it is ridiculous.
RE: RE: I am glad we do not have any real player evaluators here ...  
drake88 : 11/24/2022 8:16 pm : link
In comment 15921122 fanoftheteam said:
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making decisions about the following season when we still have a lot of games left to play in this season.




Idk. The OP is right.. now that Barkley made his mark for the year to cash in on 15 mill a year - he took his pedal off the gas. I dont find him as a hungry/team guy based on interviews and he does play like a total pussy


sad part is he will get his money because GMs never learn from the their mistakes. lets just hope it isn't from us
RE: Don’t have a clue what Joe Shoen thinks  
Mark from Jersey : 11/24/2022 8:23 pm : link
In comment 15921101 BillT said:
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Know for sure you are utterly clueless.
Bill - I smoked a turkey in my PBC today and it was fantastic. Super juicy. Was a big hit.
I’d lean toward tagging and trading Barkley  
Metnut : 11/24/2022 8:24 pm : link
and working out a 2-3 year reasonable extension with Jones.
RE: RE: Don’t have a clue what Joe Shoen thinks  
DC Gmen Fan : 11/24/2022 8:25 pm : link
In comment 15921145 Mark from Jersey said:
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Know for sure you are utterly clueless.

Bill - I smoked a turkey in my PBC today and it was fantastic. Super juicy. Was a big hit.



how long did you smoke for? My PBC usually runs 3.5 hrs for a 12-15 lb bird
RE: RE: Oy  
bwitz : 11/24/2022 8:25 pm : link
In comment 15921120 Sean said:
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Jones isn't the issue right now but I don't expect your monkey ass to realize that. Put down the chardonnay and go to bed you half wit. That box of wine will keep until your hangover fades after the mimosa filled brunch. Dick.


He’s a pending free agent. “Not the issue” isn’t really the point. The point is are you going to invest big and resign him.

Lose the insults. Especially after everyone was nice to you with your wedding thread.


He’s always been a fucking asshole. Good luck to the new wife!
Wow what a bad take  
larryflower37 : 11/24/2022 8:27 pm : link
Dallas keyed the whole defense at Barkley the only reason Britewell got that big run was because everyone ran passed him to go after Barkley.
Such a stupid analysis and the fact that you felt inclined to start a new thread to announce how stupid you are makes it even worse.
RE: You Have No Idea  
ZogZerg : 11/24/2022 8:37 pm : link
In comment 15921058 Bob in Vt said:
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If Saquon is dealing with injuries right now. Personally, I think he is hurting right now.


If it is injury that is a good reason not to throw big money at him.
Have Joe look at the niners….  
thrunthrublue : 11/24/2022 8:39 pm : link
We want that, not what is here now.
Define big money  
UConn4523 : 11/24/2022 8:42 pm : link
that term is kinda pointless without some figures to work with. It’s quite possible Barkley can be had at 5-6% of the cap, with reasonable guarantees. No, I wouldn’t pay him 5 years $75m with 50% guaranteed but you likely won’t need to.
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Jim in Tampa : 11/24/2022 8:42 pm : link
In comment 15921104 drake88 said:
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so saying no without even knowing what the number is makes no sense.



RBs should always be on their first contact



I love absolutes.



the question is do you always love them?

This made me laugh.

Good job!
RE: RE: You Have No Idea  
bubba0825 : 11/24/2022 8:43 pm : link
In comment 15921188 ZogZerg said:
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If Saquon is dealing with injuries right now. Personally, I think he is hurting right now.



If it is injury that is a good reason not to throw big money at him.


Kinda makes him injury prone? I don’t know he’s not able to elevate the team
Played like a pussy?  
Chris in Philly : 11/24/2022 8:44 pm : link
Jesus, shut up.
While I think SB  
Daniel in MI : 11/24/2022 8:44 pm : link
Doesn’t run “tough” since his shoulder, you guys are missing the big picture.

SB and DJ have come back to earth mostly since the OL has been mix and match again, and since Bellinger went out, too.

That’s not a coincidence.

One DT for the Lions had 10 QB pressures last game. 1 DT…10 fing pressures!

Couple that with DJ playing with dogshit and he’s in a no win situation. They key SB and rush DJ not worried about our WRs and TEs.

Dak threw 2 picks and was off on a lot of throws. But he’s bailed out by WRs, OL, and a running game. DJ has to be perfect on every throw and while getting crushed waiting for Sills and James to try to get open.
Signing Barkley  
Dave in PA : 11/24/2022 8:45 pm : link
Would be negligent mismanagement of an already shitty cap situation. Some no name scrub like Brightwell just proved that you do not need a “star” at RB to succeed
RE: You Have No Idea  
US1 Giants : 11/24/2022 8:45 pm : link
In comment 15921058 Bob in Vt said:
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If Saquon is dealing with injuries right now. Personally, I think he is hurting right now.


Saquon gets hurt all the time. That is one of his biggest problems. I could see franchising him one time but please no long-term contract.
i wonder what you were saying about Barkley  
wigs in nyc : 11/24/2022 8:47 pm : link
earlier this season.

The franchise for 1 year, as a RB, is a good deal
RE: I am glad we do not have any real player evaluators here ...  
NYG123 : 11/24/2022 8:48 pm : link
In comment 15921109 DefenseWins said:
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making decisions about the following season when we still have a lot of games left to play in this season.


I don’t think you need to get through the whole season to have a pretty good idea of what you have
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