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I’m okay after the game because…

5BowlsSoon : 11/25/2022 10:06 am
1. We were leading at halftime, which made me glad we weren’t blown out like Minnesota was.

2. Because the following 10 starters were missing:
WR- Shepard
WR- Robinson
TE- Bellinger
Edge- Ojulari
CB- ARobinson or Moreau
CB- Jackson
S- McKinney
OT- Neal
OG- Bredeson or Lemieux
C - Feliciano

…And we were still able to punch them in the mouth for 30 minutes. Obviously, the injuries to our secondary caught up with us when Dallas began making all those 3rd down conversions. It could have been different if it weren’t Holmes on Cee Dee and we had better coverage on their TEs.

Sure, our boys “lost that loving feeling” after halftime, but Dallas clearly has the better players (especially with us being so handicapped), so I guess the cream rose to the top.

And how often will we see Thomas give up 2 sacks? Obviously he was ill as well. As for Saquon….clearly he is not the same guy he was three weeks ago. Brightwell looked so much quicker.

Hopefully we can rest up and get some players back for our big game v Commanders.

GO GIANTS! 7-4 still looks pretty darn good to me.
Agree with the sentiment  
Mike from Ohio : 11/25/2022 10:08 am : link
But let’s give some credit to Parsons. I don’t think it’s fair to assume Thomas was only beaten by him because he was sick. The other guys get paid too, and Parsons is really, really good.
I agree completely  
Ira : 11/25/2022 10:09 am : link
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yes NYG was supposed to be blown out  
bluefin : 11/25/2022 10:10 am : link
check the prediction thread - instead we got a solid half of good football played on the road with a mostly scrub squad.
RE: Agree with the sentiment  
ajr2456 : 11/25/2022 10:12 am : link
In comment 15921857 Mike from Ohio said:
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But let’s give some credit to Parsons. I don’t think it’s fair to assume Thomas was only beaten by him because he was sick. The other guys get paid too, and Parsons is really, really good.


Parsons seemed motivated

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Heard he was the best!! I stayed on His side all game!!
 
christian : 11/25/2022 10:16 am : link
I’m not OK.

I’m disappointed Dimes didn’t have a horrible game, get sacked 10 times, fumble at least once after getting creamed, throw multiple interceptions under intense pressure, and most importantly, didn’t lead the team to single digits on the scoreboard.
I am not okay. The game was still very much winnable  
chick310 : 11/25/2022 10:23 am : link
into the 4th quarter. And most of the players that the team is arguably centered around were on the field.

And they didn't make plays to get it done in a big divisional matchup.
RE: yes NYG was supposed to be blown out  
M.S. : 11/25/2022 10:23 am : link
In comment 15921861 bluefin said:
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check the prediction thread - instead we got a solid half of good football played on the road with a mostly scrub squad.

You're absolutely correct, but at the risk of sounding like an asshole show-off, the way the game actually unfolded was not that much of a surprise. Because it was a division rival, and because Dallas was coming off such a tremendous effort against Minny, whereas the Giants laid a big egg against Detroit... I wrote the following because I've been watching football for 6 decades and this game had all the makings of the following:

Sounds good
M.S. : 11/23/2022 10:18 am : link : reply

Could happen... ya never know. Would be great.

But maybe here's a more plausible scenario.

Dallas isn't fully awake when the game begins, and so the Giants are left hanging around until sometime into the 3rd quarter. Maybe the Giants even have a slight lead. But finally, Dallas wakes up, stretches, yawns and then swats the Giants away scoring 21 unanswered points.
RE: …  
Scooter185 : 11/25/2022 10:27 am : link
In comment 15921872 christian said:
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I’m not OK.

I’m disappointed Dimes didn’t have a horrible game, get sacked 10 times, fumble at least once after getting creamed, throw multiple interceptions under intense pressure, and most importantly, didn’t lead the team to single digits on the scoreboard.


LOL
That is basically  
PaulN : 11/25/2022 10:33 am : link
How I feel. I am not happy, losing to the fucking Cowboys is so depressing that it's almost unbearable. Jones missed a few throws, had he hit them maybe we hang in even longer, but we just were outmanned. It was frustrating to see Jones miss Barkley, some said he should have caught it, O hope you heard Jones take. It's why Jones has become the easiest player on the team to root for. He is a leader, he is so fucking determined and I think he has become a great leader. How and in which direction this team goes moving forward I really don't know, but I trust this organization, as long as it stays in Schoen's hands. But he has a lot more house cleaning ahead of him. This medical staff must be looked at up and down, I clouding the training staff all of it. Tge injury situation must be dealt with for real.
RE: RE: …  
christian : 11/25/2022 10:39 am : link
In comment 15921888 Scooter185 said:
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In comment 15921872 christian said:


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I’m not OK.

I’m disappointed Dimes didn’t have a horrible game, get sacked 10 times, fumble at least once after getting creamed, throw multiple interceptions under intense pressure, and most importantly, didn’t lead the team to single digits on the scoreboard.



LOL


Hey, I figure, give the guy what he wants. It’s my little gift this holiday weekend : )
vegas odds  
thrunthrublue : 11/25/2022 10:40 am : link
were giants plus 10, that is something, winning against the odds which they did rarely in the last ten years.
I hate it when my  
46and2Blue : 11/25/2022 10:51 am : link
team loses, but they just ran out of gas. It was winnable but they let it get away from them. Unlike others, Barkley looks okay to me, we just aren't opening holes, and the loss of Evan Neal and Bellinger is obvious. I think Bakley catches that 4th pass with a better throw there, it's not about hating Jones, he was off last night on a number of throws.
RE: RE: yes NYG was supposed to be blown out  
Sean : 11/25/2022 10:57 am : link
In comment 15921885 M.S. said:
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In comment 15921861 bluefin said:


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check the prediction thread - instead we got a solid half of good football played on the road with a mostly scrub squad.


You're absolutely correct, but at the risk of sounding like an asshole show-off, the way the game actually unfolded was not that much of a surprise. Because it was a division rival, and because Dallas was coming off such a tremendous effort against Minny, whereas the Giants laid a big egg against Detroit... I wrote the following because I've been watching football for 6 decades and this game had all the makings of the following:

Sounds good
M.S. : 11/23/2022 10:18 am : link : reply

Could happen... ya never know. Would be great.

But maybe here's a more plausible scenario.

Dallas isn't fully awake when the game begins, and so the Giants are left hanging around until sometime into the 3rd quarter. Maybe the Giants even have a slight lead. But finally, Dallas wakes up, stretches, yawns and then swats the Giants away scoring 21 unanswered points.

The way you word that it makes you sound like you take joy in the Giants getting their doors blown off.

That’s not how the game unfolded. They got a bad call on them at 13-7 which extended the Dallas drive. Had chances to get off the field after and couldn’t. Had the 4th & 1 and their two pending free agents botched what could have been a conversion.

But yeah, it was just because Dallas wasn’t awake yet.
I was happy too the Giants played  
M.S. : 11/25/2022 11:10 am : link

A competitive first half, but I wouldn’t confuse that with the fact that:

(a) the Giants we’re losing the LOS battle in the first half;

(b) Dallas was on the short end of the first half score because of … wait for it… Dallas.

(c) Once Dallas got out of its own way by putting an end to the turnovers, they rolled over the Giants in the second half.

(d) While Dallas certainly beat up a severely compromised Giants secondary, they absolutely destroyed the Giants at the LOS both sides of the ball.

(e) And that is why the game ended up in a romp. Not because Saquon is hurt, not because of penalties, not because of a very inconsistent game from Daniel Jones.

(f) The Giants lost that game the old-fashioned way… they got beat up badly where the big men play.
I’m okay with the loss too  
Breeze_94 : 11/25/2022 11:17 am : link
I think what made me most upset yesterday was the fact that they were in position to win the game- despite all the injuries.

The holding call on Holmes against Lamb changed the entire trajectory of the game and turned momentum.

They went from getting the ball back up 6 points in the 3rd quarter to down 14-13. That call extended the drive, kept the defense on the field and wore them down.

Giants get the ball back, force the issue by going for it on 4th from their own 41 (I agreed with that call, had the right play dialed up, but players didn’t execute). But that 4th down call was a direct result of the momentum Dallas had and fact that the Giants defense was gassed- when the last Dallas scoring drive should’ve never happened in the first place.

I’m not gonna sit here and say they reffed the game completely one sided/ didn’t think that was the case (although the illegal man downfield was a bit ticky-tacky). But I do think that the worst. call of the was the one on Holmes- and it ended up being the turning point in the game
The game  
mdthedream : 11/25/2022 11:18 am : link
was lost when we didn't make it 4th in 2 in the 3rd quarter.
Count me as not OK with the game  
Dave in VA : 11/25/2022 11:19 am : link
When we took over the ball with 8 plus minutes left and ran the ball .....again and then again....something was not right....had we GIVEN UP......what about the BS we have been fed all season....not giving up? Where was the pride....we had hung with the Cowboys all game long. The CBs had done better than I thought they would....BUT....the offense was always held back. In this instance we needed someone to stand up and i believe leadership tied our QBs hands...where were the sprint outs....where was the attempts at passing? Shocking!!! Apologies for emotions showing, but I think leadership gave up...let us down...last two games little to no thinking outside the box
I would also like to say that the Giants  
M.S. : 11/25/2022 11:22 am : link

got beat up at the LOS because of so many injuries. That's a nice narrative to take the sting out of yesterday's drubbing.

But in the first game against Dallas, against their back-up QB, and when the Giants were supposedly more "healthy," Dallas controlled the LOS in that game too and ran rough shod over the Giants.
MS  
Sean : 11/25/2022 11:26 am : link
Agreed. But have to remember Dallas is a top 3 team in the NFC. Look what they did to the Vikings. The Giants were extremely banged up on a short week.
RE: The game  
broadbandz : 11/25/2022 11:49 am : link
In comment 15921949 mdthedream said:
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was lost when we didn't make it 4th in 2 in the 3rd quarter.


nah, probably 3 pts on the draft which does nothing. Remember if Dallas had to go 80 yds for 7 they probably could.
RE: MS  
M.S. : 11/25/2022 11:49 am : link
In comment 15921964 Sean said:
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Agreed. But have to remember Dallas is a top 3 team in the NFC. Look what they did to the Vikings. The Giants were extremely banged up on a short week.

I agree. They sure look like a top 3 team to me. If they get their Ying and their Yang together they could be very dangerous come play-off time. But if I had to venture a guess, something funky always seems to hit the Dallas team at precisely the wrong time, so maybe this season is no different! And I wouldn't be upset about that!
RE: …funny  
5BowlsSoon : 11/25/2022 11:52 am : link
In comment 15921872 christian said:
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I’m not OK.

I’m disappointed Dimes didn’t have a horrible game, get sacked 10 times, fumble at least once after getting creamed, throw multiple interceptions under intense pressure, and most importantly, didn’t lead the team to single digits on the scoreboard.


And we all need to laugh some today…
The Holmes call  
5BowlsSoon : 11/25/2022 12:03 pm : link
Many are pointing to this as the turning point, and I agree, the penalty was another mistake….but I can’t honestly say we would have continued our “domination” and Dallas would have rolled over like good little submissive puppy dogs for the rest of the game.

I still think NY would have played it ultra conservative on offense in order to kill the clock and keep its defense off the field. And I still think Dallas would have, on their next possession, dominated the LOS and CeeDee still would have had his way with “little” Holmes. In other words, had they not called call that penalty the result would have been to just delay the inevitable….I think…..but I can’t really say for sure.
RE: I would also like to say that the Giants  
Joe Beckwith : 11/25/2022 12:04 pm : link
In comment 15921957 M.S. said:
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got beat up at the LOS because of so many injuries. That's a nice narrative to take the sting out of yesterday's drubbing.

But in the first game against Dallas, against their back-up QB, and when the Giants were supposedly more "healthy," Dallas controlled the LOS in that game too and ran rough shod over the Giants.


First game as a Unit in ‘22 with a new systems vs a much more talented team and experienced team.
If we have Jackson ,XMc, AO, and anything that resembles a season starting penciled in OL, they would have ended the game with a lead too.
And Cee Dee would have played like a lamb vs Jackson.
Great thread bt the OP  
Mayo2JZ : 11/25/2022 12:08 pm : link
It’s great to see the perspective among Giants fans. Can’t wait until next Sunday
Oh, one more note on the Holmes call  
5BowlsSoon : 11/25/2022 12:18 pm : link
Dallas was on our 36 yard line. It would have been 4th and 6. I think they would have gone for it instead of trying a 53 yard FG. I think they wanted to come out quickly and punch us hard in the mouth to show us who is boss.

A FG, I don’t believe, would have been a hard enough punch, still being down 13-10. No, I think they wanted the lead and were not concerned if NY got the ball on their 36 to start their drive if the 4th down failed. Again, just speculation…don’t really know….but McCarthey did go for a 4th down in Cowboy territory, so this was a bit safer.
I was proud of the effort we displayed despite being outmanned.....  
No Where Man : 11/25/2022 12:51 pm : link
I think this game alone, is a testament to the team itself of how tough they are. I fully believe that they will come back hungrier and beat Washington, maybe twice, Indy and perhaps the Eagles too. We should be getting healthier with the likes of Neal, Ezeudo, Beredson, Ojulari, Benninger, Moreau, and McKinney, all returning sometime soon. We will be a tough out in the playoffs.
It was a game where we needed to play  
Bill in UT : 11/25/2022 1:54 pm : link
perfect football to have a chance to win. So we start it off with Slayton dropping a pass inside the 5, and follow that with a punt that our guy couldn't keep from going into the end zone.
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