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Earl the goat : 11/25/2022 12:02 pm
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Does Thibs finally see the matchups?  
Chris L. : 11/25/2022 10:09 pm : link
Grimes and Sims need to be on the floor.
RE: Does Thibs finally see the matchups?  
Vanzetti : 11/25/2022 10:10 pm : link
In comment 15922573 Chris L. said:
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Grimes and Sims need to be on the floor.


Sims, yes

Grimes , not so much
19 rebounds from a 6'4 guard  
Anakim : 11/25/2022 10:16 pm : link
Explain that one to me, Lucy
FUCK YOU, MITCH  
Anakim : 11/25/2022 10:17 pm : link
And fuck Randle
RJ barrett having a really really stupid game.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 11/25/2022 10:19 pm : link
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And that's all she wrote  
Anakim : 11/25/2022 10:21 pm : link
Fuck Thibs. Biggest sack of shit coach I've ever seen.

And RJ blows chunks. If he shoots above 40% from the field it's a good night. Enough.

Aside from Brunson, Sims, and Reddish (when he's healthy), this team sucks donkey balls.
Why did he Bring Mitch back?  
nygiants16 : 11/25/2022 10:21 pm : link
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This honestly the first time I'm concerned that RJ  
Ten Ton Hammer : 11/25/2022 10:23 pm : link
Might simply not be that smart of a basketball player.
This may have been 1 of the most 1 sided  
nygiants16 : 11/25/2022 10:23 pm : link
officiated games i have ever seen, Simons just shoved Brunson out of bounds and the refs called nothing
The Knicks are a really really low basketball IQ team  
CooperDash : 11/25/2022 10:24 pm : link
And two of (what should be) their best players - Randle and RJ - are two of the dumbest players I’ve ever watched.

And I’m sick of seeing Randles dumb face on TV.
I think I might just skip games until Thibs is fired or we make a  
Anakim : 11/25/2022 10:25 pm : link
trade. This really isn't fun. There's only so much I can watch RJ shoot bricks...and he plays more than anyone. And Randle's slow, lazy ass is just painful to watch. Mitch is a fucking stupid player.

I can go on and on, but this is really not fun. This team is spiraling down the porcelain throne pretty quickly. I blame Leon Rose's fat ass, but Dolan's obviously not gonna get rid of him, so I'll just take Thibs' head on a platter, while trading away Randle and Fournier.
Simons kills us all night  
Chris L. : 11/25/2022 10:26 pm : link
but our best perimeter defender Grimes doesn't play down the stretch. What did quickley do for you in overtime? nothing. You could'nt defend the other team yet you leave your best perimeter defender on the bench. Why? because he is not in the group the coach finishes games with. Please show Thibs the door.
Just thinking of what if...  
Anakim : 11/25/2022 10:27 pm : link
The Mitchell trade... what could of been
The subsequent RJ extension
The Robinson extension
Not trading Randle after two years ago
Trading our lottery pick just so we Leon Rose could cover up his mistakes of signing Kemba Walker and Nerlens Noel



More of the same for the Knicks. Stupid executive decisions.
We lost this game because there is no possible way RJ and Randle  
Chris L. : 11/25/2022 10:27 pm : link
can't be on the floor at the end. Done with this Coach and his inflexibility
Thibs just cant adjust  
nygiants16 : 11/25/2022 10:41 pm : link
he caters to Randle for some unknown reason..

Blazers going on a run in the 2nd, killing the big in the pick and roll, does he call timeout and make an adjustment? nope just keeps to his regularly scheduled rotation..

Takes Sims out for some unknown reason in the OT for Mitch who looks like he cant move..

Plays Ihart way to many minutes when he cant move..

The ball should be in Brunsons hands every time down in close games, instead we get pull up 3s from Randle in OT and Rj driving into no mans land..

Rj has absokutely zero midrange, he cant pull up and take a shot, he beats his man but has to go all the way to the rim because he cant shoot
RE: Simons kills us all night  
nygiants16 : 11/25/2022 10:42 pm : link
In comment 15922589 Chris L. said:
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but our best perimeter defender Grimes doesn't play down the stretch. What did quickley do for you in overtime? nothing. You could'nt defend the other team yet you leave your best perimeter defender on the bench. Why? because he is not in the group the coach finishes games with. Please show Thibs the door.


To finish it should of been Brunson, Quick, Grimes, Randle, Sims
RJ's shooting what? 40% from the field?  
Anakim : 11/25/2022 10:45 pm : link
I'm sure it'd be lower if it wasn't for that anomaly game against the Thunder. And yet he still gets the most minutes out of every Knick.


Also, his 3PT percentage has got to be terrible. He's a poor shooter from behind the arc.
RE: RE: Simons kills us all night  
Anakim : 11/25/2022 10:45 pm : link
In comment 15922610 nygiants16 said:
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In comment 15922589 Chris L. said:


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but our best perimeter defender Grimes doesn't play down the stretch. What did quickley do for you in overtime? nothing. You could'nt defend the other team yet you leave your best perimeter defender on the bench. Why? because he is not in the group the coach finishes games with. Please show Thibs the door.



To finish it should of been Brunson, Quick, Grimes, Randle, Sims


Could've done without Randle's lazy ass too. He basically dared Simons to shoot the three in OT and it blew up in his face.
RE: RJ's shooting what? 40% from the field?  
nygiants16 : 11/25/2022 10:47 pm : link
In comment 15922615 Anakim said:
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I'm sure it'd be lower if it wasn't for that anomaly game against the Thunder. And yet he still gets the most minutes out of every Knick.


Also, his 3PT percentage has got to be terrible. He's a poor shooter from behind the arc.


He has no midrange, so when he drives and has a wideopen pull up he cant take advantage and instead has to go all the way to the rim..

Need to get a sidekick for Brunson  
nygiants16 : 11/25/2022 10:47 pm : link
dude plays so hard and puts this team on his back in crunch time..

Couls really do without Thibs, Randle, Rj, Fournier
Toppin +14, Randle -17  
Greg from LI : 11/25/2022 10:48 pm : link
Toppin 14 mins, Randle 39 mins

Yeah
RE: RE: RJ's shooting what? 40% from the field?  
Greg from LI : 11/25/2022 10:51 pm : link
In comment 15922617 nygiants16 said:
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He has no midrange, so when he drives and has a wideopen pull up he cant take advantage and instead has to go all the way to the rim..


And then he's lousy at finishing at the rim
Not having Cam hurt because he would have defended Grant  
Vanzetti : 11/25/2022 10:51 pm : link
And he is a decent defender. No way does Grant go for 40+ with Cam on him.

But Knicks have a big catch 22.

They only have three guys who can score--Randle, Brunson and RJ--so those guys have to be on the court. Yet, all three are subpar defenders. RJ is the best of the lot but is mediocre at best.

Grimes and Deuce are good defenders but can't throw the ball in the ocean.

Quickley is the only two way guard but has a lot of holes in his game.

It's a problem.
RE: Toppin +14, Randle -17  
nygiants16 : 11/25/2022 10:52 pm : link
In comment 15922622 Greg from LI said:
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Toppin 14 mins, Randle 39 mins

Yeah


Just coming to post this, i mean you couldnt play them together when the Blazers had nobody at center on the court?

Randle could of at least taken advantage inside
Thibs won't be fired this year  
larryflower37 : 11/25/2022 10:53 pm : link
And the Knicks will end up 5-10 games under .500 they win just enough to save his ass.
I am an RJ fan but he is being coached wrong and is not held accountable at all for bad play.
I can't get into Randle tonight I don't have the energy but he might be the most frustrating player I have ever watch and that's saying a lot after watch 40 years of Knicks basketball.
This team is the most mismanaged franchise in all of sports.
RE: RE: Toppin +14, Randle -17  
Vanzetti : 11/25/2022 11:02 pm : link
In comment 15922627 nygiants16 said:
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In comment 15922622 Greg from LI said:


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Toppin 14 mins, Randle 39 mins

Yeah



Just coming to post this, i mean you couldnt play them together when the Blazers had nobody at center on the court?

Randle could of at least taken advantage inside


Sims should have played more and I would have put Deuce on Simon and reduced RJ's minutes.
Evwry move from here on out  
nygiants16 : 11/26/2022 12:39 am : link
should be with Brunson in mind, every player acquired needs to be a guy that fit next to him..

I dont care how they got him, i dont care they only got him because of relationship, he is here, he is an all star level player, build the team to get him a costar and fit around him.

Right now Grimes, Quick, Cam, Obi, Mitch, Sims, ihart all fit around him..

1 of Rj and Randle need to go, prefrably Randle, but id be ok with either or both..
RE: Just thinking of what if...  
TyreeHelmet : 11/26/2022 7:30 am : link
In comment 15922590 Anakim said:
[quote] The Mitchell trade... what could of been
The subsequent RJ extension
The Robinson extension
Not trading Randle after two years ago
Trading our lottery pick just so we Leon Rose could cover up his mistakes of signing Kemba Walker and Nerlens Noel



More of the same for the Knicks. Stupid executive decisions. [/quote

This front office has had 3 bad offseasons in a run. They are clueless.

It’s time for Thibs to go but it’s also time people realize how poorly run this front office is. It’s time to bring a real experienced NBA exec before this group does even more damage.
...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 11/26/2022 8:10 am : link
I watched USA England @ a midtown bar, sobered up for a bit, & then was at MSG for last night's game. Phone died/had no charger...

RJ was awful. I don't know what his final stat line was, but he couldn't hit a shot into the ocean. Him & Randle's defense...Good Lord.

I shudder to think where this team would be sans Brunson.

Again, the bench seemed better than the starters. Doesn't that sound familiar?

Its amazing watching the other coach  
nygiants16 : 11/26/2022 8:32 am : link
and seeing how he adjusts throughout the game, he is talking to his assistants and then his center gets into foul trouble, does he panic and play another center because the knicks are big? nope he brings in a forward to play center because he knows the Knciks centers have zero offensive game..

I sat on the chase bridge on the player benches side right above the Knicks bench, its amazing, Johnnie Bryant goes to Thibs all the time during a game with what looks like suggestions and Thibs jist kind of says ok and does nothing..

Its just amazing seeing the stubborness of Thibs on full display..
At one point  
nygiants16 : 11/26/2022 8:34 am : link
Bryant went to Thibs with something and then went to the end of the bench and tapped Toppin's shoulder and Bryant shrugged, almost seemed like he told Toppin "i tried"

RE: At one point  
TyreeHelmet : 11/26/2022 9:07 am : link
In comment 15922722 nygiants16 said:
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Bryant went to Thibs with something and then went to the end of the bench and tapped Toppin's shoulder and Bryant shrugged, almost seemed like he told Toppin "i tried"


The insistence on playing centers that really aren’t any good is mind boggling. There should be minutes with Randle or Toppin as the only big on the floor.
RE: RE: At one point  
nygiants16 : 11/26/2022 9:29 am : link
In comment 15922739 TyreeHelmet said:
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In comment 15922722 nygiants16 said:


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Bryant went to Thibs with something and then went to the end of the bench and tapped Toppin's shoulder and Bryant shrugged, almost seemed like he told Toppin "i tried"




The insistence on playing centers that really aren’t any good is mind boggling. There should be minutes with Randle or Toppin as the only big on the floor.


I tend to agree with you about Rose but this team would have 2 or 3 more wins if Thibs wasnt the coach..

They also have a budding star in Brunson, dude can flat out take over games..
This pissed me off so much I'm still upset  
Ten Ton Hammer : 11/26/2022 9:54 am : link
Just becoming a selfish and dumbballplayer.



Refuses to kick the ball out on his drives, just will not do it. Rather take a superhero dunk attempt and look like an idiot.
RE: This pissed me off so much I'm still upset  
nygiants16 : 11/26/2022 9:56 am : link
In comment 15922788 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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Just becoming a selfish and dumbballplayer.



Refuses to kick the ball out on his drives, just will not do it. Rather take a superhero dunk attempt and look like an idiot.


Literally all he has to do is either throw the lob to Sims or kick out to Qhickley
People call Quickley selfish  
nygiants16 : 11/26/2022 9:57 am : link
dude gets into the lane he is looking to find the open man, if the lob is open he is throwing it, if thwir is an open 3 he is kicking it..
Bullshit basketball  
Ten Ton Hammer : 11/26/2022 10:01 am : link





He wants to get all star votes with volume scoring  
Ten Ton Hammer : 11/26/2022 10:07 am : link
Hes becoming a mediocre player and bad teammate and this coach probably won't fix it.

is RJ a selfish player?  
Enzo : 11/26/2022 10:35 am : link
sure seems like it.

Hard to think of other players who would continue to hoist up shots at this rate while shooting so poorly.

Funniest part of last night's debacle was the last play of regulation. After the made free throw, RJ actually ran towards the inbounder after calling for the ball. Thankfully, the inbounder (I can't remember who it was) waited and gave it to Brunson instead.

Which also makes you wonder why we didn't have a set play drawn up for that situation.
I get it that they play  
Enzo : 11/26/2022 10:37 am : link
different positions - but's it's completely absurd that RJ is basically playing DOUBLE the minutes that Obi is getting.
RE: is RJ a selfish player?  
nygiants16 : 11/26/2022 11:01 am : link
In comment 15922830 Enzo said:
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sure seems like it.

Hard to think of other players who would continue to hoist up shots at this rate while shooting so poorly.

Funniest part of last night's debacle was the last play of regulation. After the made free throw, RJ actually ran towards the inbounder after calling for the ball. Thankfully, the inbounder (I can't remember who it was) waited and gave it to Brunson instead.

Which also makes you wonder why we didn't have a set play drawn up for that situation.


Thibs go to in end of the clock/quarter/end of game situations is ISO
Yup this is the attitude you want to have  
nygiants16 : 11/26/2022 11:03 am : link
NBACentral
@TheNBACentral
RJ Barrett on missing 78 of his last 114 shot attempts

“They've got to [fall] at some point,”

(Via
@SBondyNYDN
)
RE: RE: is RJ a selfish player?  
Enzo : 11/26/2022 11:09 am : link
In comment 15922857 nygiants16 said:
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In comment 15922830 Enzo said:


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sure seems like it.

Hard to think of other players who would continue to hoist up shots at this rate while shooting so poorly.

Funniest part of last night's debacle was the last play of regulation. After the made free throw, RJ actually ran towards the inbounder after calling for the ball. Thankfully, the inbounder (I can't remember who it was) waited and gave it to Brunson instead.

Which also makes you wonder why we didn't have a set play drawn up for that situation.



Thibs go to in end of the clock/quarter/end of game situations is ISO

that's fine - but there should be some guidance on exactly who is the preferred first option. And whoever is not that first option could be/should be helping to get that player open for the initial pass or spreading the floor.
RE: RE: RE: is RJ a selfish player?  
nygiants16 : 11/26/2022 11:14 am : link
In comment 15922871 Enzo said:
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In comment 15922857 nygiants16 said:


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In comment 15922830 Enzo said:


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sure seems like it.

Hard to think of other players who would continue to hoist up shots at this rate while shooting so poorly.

Funniest part of last night's debacle was the last play of regulation. After the made free throw, RJ actually ran towards the inbounder after calling for the ball. Thankfully, the inbounder (I can't remember who it was) waited and gave it to Brunson instead.

Which also makes you wonder why we didn't have a set play drawn up for that situation.



Thibs go to in end of the clock/quarter/end of game situations is ISO


that's fine - but there should be some guidance on exactly who is the preferred first option. And whoever is not that first option could be/should be helping to get that player open for the initial pass or spreading the floor.


This is my biggest ossue with Rj and Randle, they think they are option 1 and 2, all the other players on the team know Brunson is the number 1 guy, Rj and Randle havent accepted it yet, if they had they wouldnt play the way that they do..

Randle gets in the way of everyone and Rj chucks up 22 shots like he is Kobe in his prime
Coaching and accountability  
larryflower37 : 11/26/2022 11:40 am : link
Stops this nonsense from both players.
Hope that big contract  
xman : 11/26/2022 12:07 pm : link
didn't go to RJ's head
Brunson is questionable  
larryflower37 : 11/26/2022 2:11 pm : link
For Sunday
RE: We lost this game because there is no possible way RJ and Randle  
djm : 11/26/2022 2:31 pm : link
In comment 15922591 Chris L. said:
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can't be on the floor at the end. Done with this Coach and his inflexibility


They lost because they can’t defend.
Biggest reason for loss us gave up far too many free throws  
steve in ky : 11/26/2022 4:04 pm : link
It was crazy
I agree they lost because of defense  
larryflower37 : 11/26/2022 4:23 pm : link
You can't win giving up 49% FG % and you can say it's bad calls but 35 fouls is a lot more than just bad calls.
This is a team at home you need to beat with their injuries.
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