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as usual more over-speculation the day after, YAWN...

Rory : 11/25/2022 2:29 pm
look ...Giants played a great game last night against a rival in their home on primetime TV, had some unfortunate calls go against them but at the end they were in the drivers seat all the way to the 4th quarter.

If you want more then that then you're not being realistic and need to re-evaluate your expectations.

This is what we wanted this year right???!, meaningful games and a healthy Barkley and jones to evaluate going into 2nd half.

Giants are still in the playoff hunt, and honestly this mid season swoon feels oddly similar to 07, so does this rookie class and everything. Maybe we see Cowboys again...

my point is just take the good with the bad and try not to make damming statements that make no sense. Players play, they make mistakes they are not perfect and for the love of god remember that most of them are literally kids.

Fuck man we are 7-4.. and have Wash and Philly still and soon. Jones looks great and alot of injured players are coming back. have some freaking awareness, be excited and enjoy the ride.

go BIGBLUE
-R
this should go well  
gidiefor : Mod : 11/25/2022 2:37 pm : link
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Except for the “Jones looks great” comment, I’m on board with Rory  
Ivan15 : 11/25/2022 2:53 pm : link
Doing a little bit of cheerleading. Even at 7-4, the Giants fate is in their own hands.
 
christian : 11/25/2022 3:01 pm : link
Hey, I’m just glad the Giants didn’t fire Judge since no talented coach would ever come to New York if they dumped three coaches in a row.
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Rory : 11/25/2022 3:09 pm : link
In comment 15922243 christian said:
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Hey, I’m just glad the Giants didn’t fire Judge since no talented coach would ever come to New York if they dumped three coaches in a row.


How is that not a rational thought, it’s an indication of dysfunction within the organization.

yea we got Daboll but if it wasn’t for the historical foundation of the franchise and the theme of NYC, prospective coaches would at least have to second guess the position.
Even with the loss last night  
Dave on the UWS : 11/25/2022 3:30 pm : link
I'm more convinced than ever that we have the right guys in Schoen and Daboll going forward. At some point our injury luck WILL change. (have to believe so). They still have more salary cap work to do, more guys to dump and get the QB situation right. But Daboll and HIS staff get the roster they have ready to play every week. Whether they win or not, is a product of the talent they have to put out there. (which comes back to the injury situation). Have to think, if they start getting guys back starting with Washington, they can still win a few down the stretch. If they finish above 500 (playoffs or not), I will be DAMNED pleased!
“…Jones looks great…”  
bwitz : 11/25/2022 3:42 pm : link
Sure. If you’re living on planet Delusional.
RE: Even with the loss last night  
broadbandz : 11/25/2022 3:44 pm : link
In comment 15922268 Dave on the UWS said:
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I'm more convinced than ever that we have the right guys in Schoen and Daboll going forward. At some point our injury luck WILL change. (have to believe so). They still have more salary cap work to do, more guys to dump and get the QB situation right. But Daboll and HIS staff get the roster they have ready to play every week. Whether they win or not, is a product of the talent they have to put out there. (which comes back to the injury situation). Have to think, if they start getting guys back starting with Washington, they can still win a few down the stretch. If they finish above 500 (playoffs or not), I will be DAMNED pleased!


when will the luck change? since 2009 the giants are the most injured team. It's baked in at this point unless ownership makes big changes which they wont.
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bwitz : 11/25/2022 3:44 pm : link
In comment 15922253 Rory said:
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In comment 15922243 christian said:


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Hey, I’m just glad the Giants didn’t fire Judge since no talented coach would ever come to New York if they dumped three coaches in a row.



How is that not a rational thought, it’s an indication of dysfunction within the organization.

yea we got Daboll but if it wasn’t for the historical foundation of the franchise and the theme of NYC, prospective coaches would at least have to second guess the position.


But the Giants are a historical franchise and are in the NY market. Now you’re just grasping at straws to go with your straw man argument.
This  
Toth029 : 11/25/2022 3:59 pm : link
Offense is fielding three backup caliber lineman and Slayton is a good #3, others do not belong in a rotation unless it's in mind up duty. The starting TE is a guy who was on the Jets PS recently.

Think about that.
Mop  
Toth029 : 11/25/2022 3:59 pm : link
Up duty. That is.
 
christian : 11/25/2022 4:04 pm : link
Rory, the point is you’ve spent 2 plus decades letting us know how stupid we all are and how bored you are with BBI, and yet it’s typically you on the losing side of the argument.
Jones looked jumpy, but that happens to young players  
edavisiii : 11/25/2022 4:09 pm : link
in big games. He has more big games....give him the rest of the season. We will get some players back this week. If we beat Washington and go to 8-4 we will be in good shape for a wildcard!
Jones Wasn't Great  
GiantGrit : 11/25/2022 4:12 pm : link
Sean just posted a stat in another thread which was excellent. The Giants are 1-14 when Jones has 3 runs or less per game. I have no idea why they've gotten away from that he looks healthy. This offense is nowhere near good enough to remove that element.
This team can realistically go .500 in the last 6 games  
Rjanyg : 11/25/2022 4:30 pm : link
And get into the play offs. If this happens, there will still be a bunch of Whiny bitches here.
How can you say that the Giants...  
Jim in Tampa : 11/25/2022 4:44 pm : link
played a great game last night?

They weren't awful and they gave us more than I expected with all the injuries. But I have no idea how an objective person could say that they played "great".

(Oh wait. I think I just answered my own question.)
I been pretty much pro-Jones. By that I mean lets  
Blue21 : 11/25/2022 4:45 pm : link
give him the year to judge him and was very hopeful he could be the guy. Yesterday was eh. That missed pass to Barkley yes maybe Barkley could have caught it but a decent throw is minimal a first down maybe a touchdown. Seems to me a short time later he overthrew a receiver who was wide open. Those plays need to be made . Obviously we ll leave it up to the coaches to make those decisions but yesterday was not one of his better games when we needed it in my opinion. And yes I was surprised they didn't have him run more.
I like the positivity but  
Tim in Eternal Blue : 11/25/2022 5:44 pm : link

You lost me at: “Giants played a great game. Giants were in the drivers seat, going into the 4th and Jones looks great".
RE: I been pretty much pro-Jones. By that I mean lets  
joe48 : 11/25/2022 8:12 pm : link
In comment 15922338 Blue21 said:
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give him the year to judge him and was very hopeful he could be the guy. Yesterday was eh. That missed pass to Barkley yes maybe Barkley could have caught it but a decent throw is minimal a first down maybe a touchdown. Seems to me a short time later he overthrew a receiver who was wide open. Those plays need to be made . Obviously we ll leave it up to the coaches to make those decisions but yesterday was not one of his better games when we needed it in my opinion. And yes I was surprised they didn't have him run more.
Barkley has not been the great threat in the passing game that everyone predicted. He has dropped his share of passes this year.
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Rory : 11/25/2022 10:28 pm : link
In comment 15922311 christian said:
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Rory, the point is you’ve spent 2 plus decades letting us know how stupid we all are and how bored you are with BBI, and yet it’s typically you on the losing side of the argument.


Not stupid just overreactive and not consistent. Borderline hypocritical too

Never said I was done with BBI
Replying to everyone …  
Rory : 11/25/2022 10:31 pm : link
Folks it’s reeeeeel simple …


we are not supposed to be here. Use your heads, Jesus c
The Giants played a good game on Thursday  
Mike from Ohio : 11/26/2022 11:23 am : link
And were in the driver’s seat until the 4th Qtr? They were down 21-13 at the end of the 3rd qtr. The 4th quarter was a draw when it comes to points.

And no, by no objective measure does Jones “look great.” The discussion is whether or not he is an NFL starter.

Talking about the team is why this board is here. If you only want “Ra-Ra Go Team” posts, maybe you should spend more time at Giants.com?

If it is ok with you, the rest of us will continue to have discussions that don’t all align with your views.
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