UM move up one, THE drops to 3.
UM & THE rematch in the semi. The marketing is all there.
THE? That’s lame as hell. You’re trying too hard bro. And there’s no chance in hell Ohio State is only dropping to 3 after getttheir faces kicked in at home. Sorry.
UM move up one, THE drops to 3.
UM & THE rematch in the semi. The marketing is all there.
Nope.
Georgia
UM
TCU
When the smoke clears the #4 team will be USC -
Agree unless USC loses in the PAC 10 CG. Then I think Bama has a good shot. Ohio State with I believe 67th toughest schedule and today's big loss knocks them out imv.
UM move up one, THE drops to 3.
UM & THE rematch in the semi. The marketing is all there.
Sorry, but how do you put a team in the playoff that won’t even play for their conference championship? They didn’t get edged out by a similar team. They got routed on their homefield by a much, much better team.
USC taking care of business against ND. They should be in ahead of OSU pretty easily.
In that scenario, I would bet that they would rather keep OSU in a 1 loss than USC. The only loss came from the #3 team in the country.
So
#1 Gerogia
#2 Michigan
#3 TCU
#4 OSU
would be my guess
Assuming USC wins the PAC-12, why would you take Ohio State over USC? USC’s one loss is by one point and Ohio State was crushed at home.
Easy, the cfp playoff system allows for discretion based on experience, and despite the fact that OSU lost to michigan, they lost to a much better team than USC and a possible osu michigan rematch is a ratings W. USC matchups are just simply not as interesting.
RE: RE: RE: RE: if LSU loses, is it USC that moves into the top 4 in place of OSU?
a possible osu michigan rematch is a ratings W. USC matchups are just simply not as interesting.
I dunno. I would rather watch Caleb Williams than an OSU-MU replay. Plus ratings-wise you're involving the west coast rather than confining fan interest to the upper midwest. I can't say for sure you're wrong but I don't find the ratings argument to be very convincing.
I don’t think anyone is looking for a rematch of OSU and Michigan. Rematches are great when the first one is a close game. This was one team running roughshod over an inferior opponent and there is no reason to think the second game would be any different.
I think the best QB in the country, likely heisman winner leading a conference champion is much more compelling TV than a rematch of a blowout.
But they were crushed in the second half. Unless they are the only 1 loss team standing they will not make the playoff.
As I said before it will be:
Georgia
Michigan
TCU
USC
Agree with this. If USC wins the PAC-12 Championship there is likely no discussion that they belong ahead of Ohio State. Their only outside chance is if USC loses.
OSU did not just lose to the #3 team in the country today. They got exposed as an over rated team that never should have been #2.
should ask Brian Kelly in his postgame tonight if he bailed on ND because he knew he had one of the worst QB and WR rooms of any major program. And he should answer for why that is. It's because of his inept recruiting at the position for about 5 cycles in a row.
ND wins that game tongiht if they had even a decent QB.
Caleb Williams is a punk. The 15 yard penalty and ejection would have been plenty worth it after the shit he was doing showboating.
I can't wait for Georgia to absolutely kick his ass. He's a remarkable talent but a punk. Fuck him
Kelly, Rees and Del Alexander torpedoed the 2022 ND team. They're not going to can Rees but the QB recruiting is partially on him too, but when you have a head coach who flat out refused to recruit 95% of the time it's hard to get big QB commits.
Michael Penix of Washington putting on a bit of a show
should ask Brian Kelly in his postgame tonight if he bailed on ND because he knew he had one of the worst QB and WR rooms of any major program. And he should answer for why that is. It's because of his inept recruiting at the position for about 5 cycles in a row.
ND wins that game tongiht if they had even a decent QB.
Caleb Williams is a punk. The 15 yard penalty and ejection would have been plenty worth it after the shit he was doing showboating.
I can't wait for Georgia to absolutely kick his ass. He's a remarkable talent but a punk. Fuck him
Tommy Rees is just awful. Estime averaged over NINE YARDS PER TOUCH and somehow played the fewest snaps of the three backs. He had half as many touches as Logan Diggs. Third down jet sweeps with Logan Diggs?
Drew Pyne just is what he is. I’m sure he’ll do a solid job at Western Michigan next season. That fumble was classic Drew Pyne and essentially ended the game.
I’d advise Marcus Freeman that when you get an opportunity like this, don’t allow people you don’t really want to have as subordinates to submarine it for you (eg Jason Garrett for Joe Judge). Move on from Rees and Golden if that’s what you want to do.
is fine. Rees I dont think they will move on from but I wouldnt be upset if they did.
ND losing to Stanford still boggles ny mind. Stanford is one of the 3-4 worst P5 teams in the country. Thry’re on their way to becoming Vanderbilt.
That Stanford loss was the most embarrassing of my time as an ND fan so 25 years or so.
Its funny to hear all of the analysts tripping over themselves making excuses for Shaw every chance they get. For years we had to hear how great he was.
They can score, they have a dual threat QB of their own, and of course they gave USC its only loss thus far.
USC will be coming off two hard fought, emotional wins in a row in a short week, while Utah had a walkover vs Colorado.
I would peg the champs game as a 50/50.
That is true - but all four top teams have good opponents next week. Georgia has LSU; TCU has K-State; Michigan has Purdue (maybe the least of the four opponents, but you never know); and as you say USC has Utah.
A lot could change based on these four games. If the top four all win, they're all through to the playoffs I would think. However, what if one (or more) loses? For example, if LSU beats Georgia in a close game? Or K-State knocks off TCU which is certainly possible.
RE: Utah is a significant remaining obstacle for USC
That is true - but all four top teams have good opponents next week. Georgia has LSU; TCU has K-State; Michigan has Purdue (maybe the least of the four opponents, but you never know); and as you say USC has Utah.
A lot could change based on these four games. If the top four all win, they're all through to the playoffs I would think. However, what if one (or more) loses? For example, if LSU beats Georgia in a close game? Or K-State knocks off TCU which is certainly possible.
Georgia is a 16 point favorite, same as Michigan. Using the converter, they are each 98% favorites to win.
USC and TCU are both 2.5 point favorites. I'm not that familiar with K State, but I'll presume the pros know what they're doing in setting the odds that close for them.
I mentioned USC's run-up to their champs game because I think having three high-stress games in a row is a factor.
I expect Ohio State is next in line if USC loses and perhaps for TCU as well. Not what I would do if I ruled the world, but that's what I see.
I have little doubt that Alabama is one of the four best teams in FBS. Both of their losses are by a combined four points on the last play of each game.
I would bet if they played any team other than Georgia, they would be a favorite on a neutral site.
I have little doubt that Alabama is one of the four best teams in FBS. Both of their losses are by a combined four points on the last play of each game.
I would bet if they played any team other than Georgia, they would be a favorite on a neutral site.
Bama's issue is who have they actually beat that's any good?
Ole Miss? They've imploded at end of season.
They also were a couple seconds away from losing to Texas when Texas starting QB didn't play the last 3 quarters and to A&M who has been atrocious.
Respect it
Which bar did you end up watching the World Cup at
There was a beauty ahead of me rooting for England. I almost pulled a Benedict Arnold, Haha.
Sometimes 🤦🏻♂️
It finished 38-34...??
Maybe Daboll can get a little inside knowledge for the draft?
Maybe Daboll can get a little inside knowledge for the draft?
And Schoen was at Arkansas/Missouri
UM & THE rematch in the semi. The marketing is all there.
UM & THE rematch in the semi. The marketing is all there.
THE? That’s lame as hell. You’re trying too hard bro. And there’s no chance in hell Ohio State is only dropping to 3 after getttheir faces kicked in at home. Sorry.
UM & THE rematch in the semi. The marketing is all there.
Nope.
Georgia
UM
TCU
When the smoke clears the #4 team will be USC -
That was a fantastic play
Yes. They probably would do that even if LSU wins.
In that scenario, I would bet that they would rather keep OSU in a 1 loss than USC. The only loss came from the #3 team in the country.
So
#1 Gerogia
#2 Michigan
#3 TCU
#4 OSU
would be my guess
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UM move up one, THE drops to 3.
UM & THE rematch in the semi. The marketing is all there.
Nope.
Georgia
UM
TCU
When the smoke clears the #4 team will be USC -
Agree unless USC loses in the PAC 10 CG. Then I think Bama has a good shot. Ohio State with I believe 67th toughest schedule and today's big loss knocks them out imv.
Williams sure can move around a lot. Impressive.
Georgia
UM
TCU
When the smoke clears the #4 team will be USC -
That's what I'm thinking too. OSU lost pretty decisively and USC is beating Notre Dame.
UM & THE rematch in the semi. The marketing is all there.
Sorry, but how do you put a team in the playoff that won’t even play for their conference championship? They didn’t get edged out by a similar team. They got routed on their homefield by a much, much better team.
USC taking care of business against ND. They should be in ahead of OSU pretty easily.
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Would seem to make sense to me.
In that scenario, I would bet that they would rather keep OSU in a 1 loss than USC. The only loss came from the #3 team in the country.
So
#1 Gerogia
#2 Michigan
#3 TCU
#4 OSU
would be my guess
Assuming USC wins the PAC-12, why would you take Ohio State over USC? USC’s one loss is by one point and Ohio State was crushed at home.
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Would seem to make sense to me.
In that scenario, I would bet that they would rather keep OSU in a 1 loss than USC. The only loss came from the #3 team in the country.
So
#1 Gerogia
#2 Michigan
#3 TCU
#4 OSU
would be my guess
Assuming USC wins the PAC-12, why would you take Ohio State over USC? USC’s one loss is by one point and Ohio State was crushed at home.
Easy, the cfp playoff system allows for discretion based on experience, and despite the fact that OSU lost to michigan, they lost to a much better team than USC and a possible osu michigan rematch is a ratings W. USC matchups are just simply not as interesting.
I dunno. I would rather watch Caleb Williams than an OSU-MU replay. Plus ratings-wise you're involving the west coast rather than confining fan interest to the upper midwest. I can't say for sure you're wrong but I don't find the ratings argument to be very convincing.
I think the best QB in the country, likely heisman winner leading a conference champion is much more compelling TV than a rematch of a blowout.
As I said before it will be:
Georgia
Michigan
TCU
USC
As I said before it will be:
Georgia
Michigan
TCU
USC
Agree with this. If USC wins the PAC-12 Championship there is likely no discussion that they belong ahead of Ohio State. Their only outside chance is if USC loses.
OSU did not just lose to the #3 team in the country today. They got exposed as an over rated team that never should have been #2.
ND wins that game tongiht if they had even a decent QB.
Caleb Williams is a punk. The 15 yard penalty and ejection would have been plenty worth it after the shit he was doing showboating.
I can't wait for Georgia to absolutely kick his ass. He's a remarkable talent but a punk. Fuck him
Kelly, Rees and Del Alexander torpedoed the 2022 ND team. They're not going to can Rees but the QB recruiting is partially on him too, but when you have a head coach who flat out refused to recruit 95% of the time it's hard to get big QB commits.
ND wins that game tongiht if they had even a decent QB.
Caleb Williams is a punk. The 15 yard penalty and ejection would have been plenty worth it after the shit he was doing showboating.
I can't wait for Georgia to absolutely kick his ass. He's a remarkable talent but a punk. Fuck him
Tommy Rees is just awful. Estime averaged over NINE YARDS PER TOUCH and somehow played the fewest snaps of the three backs. He had half as many touches as Logan Diggs. Third down jet sweeps with Logan Diggs?
Drew Pyne just is what he is. I’m sure he’ll do a solid job at Western Michigan next season. That fumble was classic Drew Pyne and essentially ended the game.
I’d advise Marcus Freeman that when you get an opportunity like this, don’t allow people you don’t really want to have as subordinates to submarine it for you (eg Jason Garrett for Joe Judge). Move on from Rees and Golden if that’s what you want to do.
ND losing to Stanford still boggles ny mind. Stanford is one of the 3-4 worst P5 teams in the country. Thry’re on their way to becoming Vanderbilt.
That Stanford loss was the most embarrassing of my time as an ND fan so 25 years or so.
Its funny to hear all of the analysts tripping over themselves making excuses for Shaw every chance they get. For years we had to hear how great he was.
USC will be coming off two hard fought, emotional wins in a row in a short week, while Utah had a walkover vs Colorado.
I would peg the champs game as a 50/50.
Rees cannot move on soon enough.
USC will be coming off two hard fought, emotional wins in a row in a short week, while Utah had a walkover vs Colorado.
I would peg the champs game as a 50/50.
That is true - but all four top teams have good opponents next week. Georgia has LSU; TCU has K-State; Michigan has Purdue (maybe the least of the four opponents, but you never know); and as you say USC has Utah.
A lot could change based on these four games. If the top four all win, they're all through to the playoffs I would think. However, what if one (or more) loses? For example, if LSU beats Georgia in a close game? Or K-State knocks off TCU which is certainly possible.
USC will be coming off two hard fought, emotional wins in a row in a short week, while Utah had a walkover vs Colorado.
I would peg the champs game as a 50/50.
Good post.
Rising is a very good QB for Utah. Underrated draft prospect.
He went toe to toe with Williams when Utah rallied to beat USC in October. So, Utah will be ready. Whittingham can coach...
That is true - but all four top teams have good opponents next week. Georgia has LSU; TCU has K-State; Michigan has Purdue (maybe the least of the four opponents, but you never know); and as you say USC has Utah.
A lot could change based on these four games. If the top four all win, they're all through to the playoffs I would think. However, what if one (or more) loses? For example, if LSU beats Georgia in a close game? Or K-State knocks off TCU which is certainly possible.
Georgia is a 16 point favorite, same as Michigan. Using the converter, they are each 98% favorites to win.
USC and TCU are both 2.5 point favorites. I'm not that familiar with K State, but I'll presume the pros know what they're doing in setting the odds that close for them.
I mentioned USC's run-up to their champs game because I think having three high-stress games in a row is a factor.
I expect Ohio State is next in line if USC loses and perhaps for TCU as well. Not what I would do if I ruled the world, but that's what I see.
I actually still think they have the talent to hang with and potentially beat Georgia.
The wildcard will be if USC loses. I go with Big Game Nick over Small Game Day. Young over Stroud. 8th SOS versus 67th.
So Tuesday then the USC game seems where this is going imv.
I have little doubt that Alabama is one of the four best teams in FBS. Both of their losses are by a combined four points on the last play of each game.
I would bet if they played any team other than Georgia, they would be a favorite on a neutral site.
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Things would get really interesting.
I have little doubt that Alabama is one of the four best teams in FBS. Both of their losses are by a combined four points on the last play of each game.
I would bet if they played any team other than Georgia, they would be a favorite on a neutral site.
Bama's issue is who have they actually beat that's any good?
Ole Miss? They've imploded at end of season.
They also were a couple seconds away from losing to Texas when Texas starting QB didn't play the last 3 quarters and to A&M who has been atrocious.