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Odell will visit Giants Thursday and Friday per Rapoport

BeckShepEli : 11/27/2022 6:56 am
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OBJ - ( New Window )
for the right money  
bc4life : 11/27/2022 7:43 am : link
might work. He's had a lot of injuries, but he should be able to give Giants more than Golladay. Give Jones a fighting chance.
If they somehow sign him I will root like hell for him  
mpinmaine : 11/27/2022 8:18 am : link
however I am surprised they are having him visit considering the injuries and his antics the 1st time he was here.

I think he ends up with one of the other 2 teams involved.
Odell seems like an odd fit  
Sean : 11/27/2022 8:27 am : link
There are so many unknowns regarding the team next season.
There are 2 major cheer leaders  
Giantimistic : 11/27/2022 8:48 am : link
For Beckham—Shepard and Barkley. Those are 2 players that are a great check for Beckham and can help him be a positive part of the culture. If they are not on the team next year then I am not as sure about getting Beckham.

If healthy and reasonable money, I add him.

This is where we have to trust our GM and coach. I don’t think this is just an optics move to make fans think we are making a playoff push this year.
As much as I think it would be fun to add him  
mikeinbloomfield : 11/27/2022 8:50 am : link
I don’t see how he chooses to come to a team that wants to run it 35 times a game over the Cowboys. I hope I’m wrong.
This year and next year make look nothing alike  
mattlawson : 11/27/2022 9:07 am : link
All season we’ve heard from insiders that the offensive minds on the coaching staff have been playing to strengths - not leaning in to a particular fetish with the run game.

With a healthy offensive line, they can pass block, with a stable of competent WRs, TEs - the run/pass tendencies could be wildly different next year
I just read  
pjcas18 : 11/27/2022 9:11 am : link
Beckham won't be ready to be back on the field until the "end of December" so as much as I would like to see WR upgraded I doubt it's coming from Beckham, or maybe it will but not until week 16 or 17 or so.

Here is what I referenced  
pjcas18 : 11/27/2022 9:13 am : link
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NFL Network's Ian Rapoport believes free agent Odell Beckham (knee) is unlikely to play before late December.

Advice: Beckham's timeline has gone from mid-November into early December. It now looks like he won't be ready until the end of next month. Beckham isn't scheduled to visit with Dallas until December 5, making it unlikely he signs before then. The Giants and Buffalo have visits lined up with Beckham in addition to the Cowboys. With only six weeks remaining before the playoffs, Beckham may be targeting a multi-year deal.
I think I'm in the minority of fans over 35  
j_rud : 11/27/2022 9:27 am : link
but I think this would be a really fun story. I'm not the least bit worried about his personality or previous time here, if only because I trust the regime to make the right choice in terms of his health and his locker room presence.
RE: If they somehow sign him I will root like hell for him  
GeoMan999 : 11/27/2022 9:40 am : link
In comment 15923539 mpinmaine said:
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however I am surprised they are having him visit considering the injuries and his antics the 1st time he was here.

I think he ends up with one of the other 2 teams involved.


I agree with everything you said. I am really surprised they are considering him, unless they want to increase the amount of money the Cowboys would have to pay him.
RE: As much as I think it would be fun to add him  
FStubbs : 11/27/2022 9:43 am : link
In comment 15923551 mikeinbloomfield said:
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I don’t see how he chooses to come to a team that wants to run it 35 times a game over the Cowboys. I hope I’m wrong.


What team will throw it to him more? Dallas has other receivers.
He would help, no doubt.  
mittenedman : 11/27/2022 9:50 am : link
I’m not going to say they owe it to Jones, but it would be nice to provide him with at least 1 quality WR down the stretch.
We have no idea of their level of interest  
Milton : 11/27/2022 9:51 am : link
It's possible they are quite serious, it's also very possible they and/or Odell have zero interest in a reunion but are doing it for the photo op which serves both parties. Another possibility is that Odell is nowhere close to 100% of what he was a year ago, let alone what he was five or six years ago.
In my mind, Beckham’s value to the Giants has diminished greatly  
Ivan15 : 11/27/2022 10:10 am : link
Over the last couple of weeks. Beckham knows he isn’t really interested in the Giants and is hoping to get a realistic offer so that he can get Dallas and Buffalo into a bidding war. Even if he signed on Friday, he won’t be available for next Sunday (can he even pass a physical) so the most he will be available for is the last 5 games. Can he contribute to winning 3 of those 5 games and help the Giants squeak into the playoffs? Then what?
Art Stapleton  
Ira : 11/27/2022 10:23 am : link
@art_stapleton
Odell Beckham Jr’s reps have done a masterful job - absolutely masterful - creating a market in the eyes of the public for a 30-year-old wide receiver who tore his ACL in February.
Free agent visits, players falling all over themselves on social media … just masterful.
RE: This year and next year make look nothing alike  
Bill in UT : 11/27/2022 10:23 am : link
In comment 15923561 mattlawson said:
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With a healthy offensive line, they can pass block, with a stable of competent WRs, TEs - the run/pass tendencies could be wildly different next year

It will certainly be an improvement, but even when healthy, all our injured OL were better run than pass blockers
Hopefully  
noro9 : 11/27/2022 10:40 am : link
He stops by and Giants tell him they're not interested.
RE: Art Stapleton  
BigBlueinDE : 11/27/2022 10:56 am : link
In comment 15923649 Ira said:
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@art_stapleton
Odell Beckham Jr’s reps have done a masterful job - absolutely masterful - creating a market in the eyes of the public for a 30-year-old wide receiver who tore his ACL in February.
Free agent visits, players falling all over themselves on social media … just masterful.


Art's right. This is all noise.
I will say  
BeckShepEli : 11/27/2022 11:31 am : link
Some of you are just idiots and are butthurt from the past. I have bad news for you, Schoen and Daboll aren’t bringing OBJ in for a 2 day visit to make noise for his market.
I am not optimistic about Odell, because  
Marty in Albany : 11/27/2022 11:42 am : link
we are not looking for somebody who will play a few games this year and will be gone next season.

If Odell has enough left to play next season, the Giants probably can't afford to pay him what he's worth.

RE: I think I'm in the minority of fans over 35  
djm : 11/27/2022 11:48 am : link
In comment 15923571 j_rud said:
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but I think this would be a really fun story. I'm not the least bit worried about his personality or previous time here, if only because I trust the regime to make the right choice in terms of his health and his locker room presence.


I’m with you
Odell Not Signing With The Giants  
Fearless : 11/27/2022 11:53 am : link
It’s DJ’s fault.
Not to be corny  
Dave on the UWS : 11/27/2022 12:42 pm : link
but if Schoen signs Beckham, it’s because he thinks he can still play and it’s the right move. I don’t think Odell’s behavior will enter into it. He’s not the same guy who left.
I don't see Odell as a fit with the Giants.  
gidiefor : Mod : 11/27/2022 12:50 pm : link
The Giants need so much more than a WR right now, and you are going to over pay for Odell, as he has set up a bidding war for his services and he is an unknown quantity as he is not yet in football shape.

I would pass. I just don't see where the value is in signing him. I also don't see the Giants as being desperate, and I don't even see this as an ideal situation for Odell.

Build the team in the right way. You are having/had your auditions this year. The Giants are in a much better position going into next year with the cap. Spend wisely and don't reach.

The only argument for signing him is that you want to see if it would make a difference in Daniel Jones' performance, but this particular Odell situation is set up for it to be less than ideal circumstances, and only a very small sample size will be available for testing this out.


In any event Daboll and Shoen are accomplished professional evaluators and I believe they know what they have and that they also know what they need to be successful. The Giants are going to be a different team next year. I don't think they need to rent Odell to figure it out, and it's dubious that they can afford to.
I’d like  
RIZZBIZZ : 11/27/2022 12:53 pm : link
To know maras thoughts on the situation.
Can’t imagine he’s too thrilled with the prospect .
RE: Not to be corny  
BlackLight : 11/27/2022 1:28 pm : link
In comment 15923782 Dave on the UWS said:
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but if Schoen signs Beckham, it’s because he thinks he can still play and it’s the right move. I don’t think Odell’s behavior will enter into it. He’s not the same guy who left.


I expect Schoen to make an offer based on reality rather than sentiment, but the idea that Beckham is a different guy now than the one we traded away is a claim to be demonstrated rather than asserted. He was a problem in Cleveland (though one among many), and he wasn't on the Rams long enough to become a problem.

People seem to think that because he won a ring with Los Angeles, he's beyond concussing himself with the team's kicking net. I hope that's the case, but what I REALLY hope is that Schoen makes a deal that allows us to get out from under his contract with minimal pain if things go south.
Why the big deal?  
jeff57 : 11/27/2022 2:34 pm : link
Has hadn’t a good season in years. Can never stay healthy. I’d pass.
Signing OBJ, would test DJ having a quality WR  
JoeMorrison40 : 11/27/2022 4:33 pm : link
as evidence for off season decisions on DJ
How is he gonna get here  
cjac : 11/27/2022 4:48 pm : link
He’s about to be put on the no fly list
Hope he takes the train.  
sharp315 : 11/27/2022 4:57 pm : link
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