If I were an Ohio State fan I’d be a bit annoyed by his comments. “Nothing to be worried about”. Really? Having one safety - or no safeties - deep was not a good game plan.
If I were an Ohio State fan I’d be a bit annoyed by his comments. “Nothing to be worried about”. Really? Having one safety - or no safeties - deep was not a good game plan.
Michigan’s D stepped up in the second half.
Same play twice in a row burned them. And there was a LB there to make a play
Day 1/Day 2 corners. These guys got toasted. And in the 2nd half, Michigan took over in the trenches. Stroud hardly used the middle of the field and Harrison Jr. did next to nothing. No one came up big for them. OSU did not deserve to win.
If I were an Ohio State fan I’d be a bit annoyed by his comments. “Nothing to be worried about”. Really? Having one safety - or no safeties - deep was not a good game plan.
Michigan’s D stepped up in the second half.
Same play twice in a row burned them. And there was a LB there to make a play
Day 1/Day 2 corners. These guys got toasted. And in the 2nd half, Michigan took over in the trenches. Stroud hardly used the middle of the field and Harrison Jr. did next to nothing. No one came up big for them. OSU did not deserve to win.
Except for his TD Michigan kept Harrison Jr in check.
OSU was outcoached and outplayed to a ridiculous degree in the second half. They didn’t adjust, we’re confused coming to and from the sideline, etc. Michigan was by FAR the superior team on that field.
Michigan belongs nowhere near the college playoff. They’re subpar. Ohio state prob wins that game 8 out of every 10 times
I am puzzled by this opinion. How can anyone watch that game, or any of the other Michigan games this year, and make that remark?
Michigan is not gaudy. They aren't a spread offense. But what they will do is run the ball directly at you and make you stop them with that big, physical offensive line and run game for 60 minutes. They are workmanlike.
Defensively they will hit you, they will cover you, and they will tackle you. They are fundamentally sound and they are disciplined.
The brand of football they play isn't popular in the NCAA today, but it is effective. Smart, fast, and physical.
Michigan belongs nowhere near the college playoff. They’re subpar. Ohio state prob wins that game 8 out of every 10 times
Also...they still have one game remaining, but it would be pretty difficult to keep one of only three undefeated teams in the country out of the playoff.
Clearly at undefeated they deserve a go. Just tired of the likes of Michigan and notre dame and these other teams that can’t match up with the SEC get their shit pushed in when it counts. Atleast Ohio state has proven to be the opponent in the past.
Michigan vs Georgia last year was sad.
They are 12-0, including 20+ point drubbings of OSU and PSU. The combined scores of their games are 478-151, for a game avg of 40-13. They have scored 40+ points in half their games, 50+ in four of them. They have allowed 10 or fewer points in five of their games. They can control the trenches, they have a blue-chip RB and an ascendant QB. If they don’t belong anywhere near the CFP, who the fuck does? Asinine.
They are 12-0, including 20+ point drubbings of OSU and PSU. The combined scores of their games are 478-151, for a game avg of 40-13. They have scored 40+ points in half their games, 50+ in four of them. They have allowed 10 or fewer points in five of their games. They can control the trenches, they have a blue-chip RB and an ascendant QB. If they don’t belong anywhere near the CFP, who the fuck does? Asinine.
They are 12-0, including 20+ point drubbings of OSU and PSU. The combined scores of their games are 478-151, for a game avg of 40-13. They have scored 40+ points in half their games, 50+ in four of them. They have allowed 10 or fewer points in five of their games. They can control the trenches, they have a blue-chip RB and an ascendant QB. If they don’t belong anywhere near the CFP, who the fuck does? Asinine.
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They are 12-0, including 20+ point drubbings of OSU and PSU. The combined scores of their games are 478-151, for a game avg of 40-13. They have scored 40+ points in half their games, 50+ in four of them. They have allowed 10 or fewer points in five of their games. They can control the trenches, they have a blue-chip RB and an ascendant QB. If they don’t belong anywhere near the CFP, who the fuck does? Asinine.
Their out of conference schedule was an absolute joke.
Colorado State
UConn
Hawaii
All in Ann Arbor
They didn't play a road game until a month into the season. They played two good teams all year. The refs had to save them against Illinois at the end of the game. They'll get to a CFP game and get wrecked like they did last year because the competition will be nothing compared to what they faced during the year.
They are 12-0, including 20+ point drubbings of OSU and PSU. The combined scores of their games are 478-151, for a game avg of 40-13. They have scored 40+ points in half their games, 50+ in four of them. They have allowed 10 or fewer points in five of their games. They can control the trenches, they have a blue-chip RB and an ascendant QB. If they don’t belong anywhere near the CFP, who the fuck does? Asinine.
Their out of conference schedule was an absolute joke.
Colorado State
UConn
Hawaii
All in Ann Arbor
They didn't play a road game until a month into the season. They played two good teams all year. The refs had to save them against Illinois at the end of the game. They'll get to a CFP game and get wrecked like they did last year because the competition will be nothing compared to what they faced during the year.
Ohio played the likes of Toledo and Arkansas State. Your take on Michigan is obviously biased and influenced by Michigan dominance the last two years. Yawn.
I dont think the top of the SEC is as good as it once was
They are 12-0, including 20+ point drubbings of OSU and PSU. The combined scores of their games are 478-151, for a game avg of 40-13. They have scored 40+ points in half their games, 50+ in four of them. They have allowed 10 or fewer points in five of their games. They can control the trenches, they have a blue-chip RB and an ascendant QB. If they don’t belong anywhere near the CFP, who the fuck does? Asinine.
Their out of conference schedule was an absolute joke.
Colorado State
UConn
Hawaii
All in Ann Arbor
They didn't play a road game until a month into the season. They played two good teams all year. The refs had to save them against Illinois at the end of the game. They'll get to a CFP game and get wrecked like they did last year because the competition will be nothing compared to what they faced during the year.
Ohio played the likes of Toledo and Arkansas State. Your take on Michigan is obviously biased and influenced by Michigan dominance the last two years. Yawn.
I'm a Notre Dame fan, so I don't care for either Michigan or OSU. They both play similar schedules, and frontload with cupcakes. OSU just happened to have Notre Dame this year (and next) and got a tough game from them and if ND had any semblance of offense, they would have won that game.
Next year Michigan also starts the season with four straight home games and their out of conference schedule is:
They are 12-0, including 20+ point drubbings of OSU and PSU. The combined scores of their games are 478-151, for a game avg of 40-13. They have scored 40+ points in half their games, 50+ in four of them. They have allowed 10 or fewer points in five of their games. They can control the trenches, they have a blue-chip RB and an ascendant QB. If they don’t belong anywhere near the CFP, who the fuck does? Asinine.
Their out of conference schedule was an absolute joke.
Colorado State
UConn
Hawaii
All in Ann Arbor
They didn't play a road game until a month into the season. They played two good teams all year. The refs had to save them against Illinois at the end of the game. They'll get to a CFP game and get wrecked like they did last year because the competition will be nothing compared to what they faced during the year.
Neither of them can win in a playoff with the pros out of the SEC.
Normally, I would agree. But not this year. I don't think Georgia is as good as last year. They were lucky to get out of Missouri alive and fortunate to beat Kentucky, where Will Levis threw an absurd INT in the endzone, and the KY FG kicker missed a chip shot FG.
Michigan has more overall talent this year, especially at QB. So, I could see Michigan giving Georgia a very good battle.
On a different topic, I have zero doubt Bama is much better than TCU. And USC. And Ohio State. Etc.
I would bet Bama would be the favorite against any team except Georgia on a neutral site.
If the goal is to get the best four teams, and not the teams with the best records and "accomplishments" (like winning their conference), then Bama should get a spot. They lost two games on the road on the last play of the game. And by a combined four points.
Neither of them can win in a playoff with the pros out of the SEC.
Who pissed in your cheerios? I cared - I watched the whole game and have zero connection to either school. So did millions of others.
If you care about college football at all - you care about one if its most important rivalries. I'll take a big time CFB rivalry game over a CFP game any day.
Michigan belongs nowhere near the college playoff. They’re subpar. Ohio state prob wins that game 8 out of every 10 times
Did you miss the game? Michigan beats them 9 out of 10 times this season. In the first OSU decided to stop the run and Michigan threw it all over the field. In the second half they backed off that and Michigan ran it all over them.
This game was men against boys. If you believe Michigan is no where near the top 4 then OSU is probably somewhere in the 20-25 range.
Clearly at undefeated they deserve a go. Just tired of the likes of Michigan and notre dame and these other teams that can’t match up with the SEC get their shit pushed in when it counts. Atleast Ohio state has proven to be the opponent in the past.
Michigan vs Georgia last year was sad.
You have not noticed the SEC beating the tar out of Ohio State for the better part of the last decade?
Georgia will level Michigan. They would level Ohio State too. The SEC is just light years ahead of the Big 10 and have been for a very long time.
Clearly at undefeated they deserve a go. Just tired of the likes of Michigan and notre dame and these other teams that can’t match up with the SEC get their shit pushed in when it counts. Atleast Ohio state has proven to be the opponent in the past.
Michigan vs Georgia last year was sad.
You have not noticed the SEC beating the tar out of Ohio State for the better part of the last decade?
Georgia will level Michigan. They would level Ohio State too. The SEC is just light years ahead of the Big 10 and have been for a very long time.
You're going to have to point out to me all the times the SEC has "beat the tar" out of Ohio State since Urban got there. 2020 National Championship game, that's it. And that was maybe Saban's best team. But I could counter that with the 2014 semi final with Ohio State beating Alabama. You're exaggerating considerably here. The way Michigan is playing, unfortunately for me, I do not think Georgia beats them handily
Clearly at undefeated they deserve a go. Just tired of the likes of Michigan and notre dame and these other teams that can’t match up with the SEC get their shit pushed in when it counts. Atleast Ohio state has proven to be the opponent in the past.
Michigan vs Georgia last year was sad.
You have not noticed the SEC beating the tar out of Ohio State for the better part of the last decade?
Georgia will level Michigan. They would level Ohio State too. The SEC is just light years ahead of the Big 10 and have been for a very long time.
I'm not sure if they will level Michigan again. There is a huge difference for Michigan at QB this year vs last year.
Alabama and Georgia also have multiple cupcakes on their schedule.
Your argument is bullshit.
I'm fully aware the SEC is overrated and plays inferior opponents. The weekend the SEC dedicates in November to playing cupcake teams before rivalry weekend is ridiculous.
But, Georgia played Oregon out of conference and Alabama played Texas this year. Michigan played nobody.
Clearly at undefeated they deserve a go. Just tired of the likes of Michigan and notre dame and these other teams that can’t match up with the SEC get their shit pushed in when it counts. Atleast Ohio state has proven to be the opponent in the past.
Michigan vs Georgia last year was sad.
You have not noticed the SEC beating the tar out of Ohio State for the better part of the last decade?
Georgia will level Michigan. They would level Ohio State too. The SEC is just light years ahead of the Big 10 and have been for a very long time.
You're going to have to point out to me all the times the SEC has "beat the tar" out of Ohio State since Urban got there. 2020 National Championship game, that's it. And that was maybe Saban's best team. But I could counter that with the 2014 semi final with Ohio State beating Alabama. You're exaggerating considerably here. The way Michigan is playing, unfortunately for me, I do not think Georgia beats them handily
Sorry, I cut it off just after back to back destructions by the SEC in 2007 and 2008. Since then it only happened two more times in 2016 and 2021. This is against one win against the SEC in bowl games since 2012.
So I will correct my previous statement to "beat the tar out of Ohio State" for the better part of the past 15 years, except that single win OSU had in 2015.
You couldn't make less sense. Are you giving Clemson credit for an SEC win in 2016? Well I'll take the Ohio State win over clemson in 2020 then. They're in the ACC.
There's a pretty clear distinction for Ohio State from the Tressel years where they didn't have the athletes to compete with the SEC, to after Urban was hired where he began to recruit more nationally and beat Alabama. So yeah, the distinction matters. Ohio State still recruits at that level, produces NFL athletes at a similar level. So the fact that Michigan has raised their caliber to now comfortably beat them, tells me they shouldn't be so easily dismissed.
The credit that the "SEC" gets when it's really just Alabama and more recently Georgia is pretty funny. Whole bunch of mediocre programs in there and they've lost plenty of bowl games over the past decade
I hope you're right and Georgia destroys Michigan. Can't stand the Wolverines. But they surprised me Saturday with how comprehensively they beat the Buckeyes. Last year they had no semblance of a passing game. McCarthy can make some plays.
I hope you're right and Georgia destroys Michigan. Can't stand the Wolverines. But they surprised me Saturday with how comprehensively they beat the Buckeyes. Last year they had no semblance of a passing game. McCarthy can make some plays.
My point was that OSU has not been particularly competitive with the SEC in bowl games the last 15 years. If you want to believe that parsing that down to the HC and yes, removing the one game with an ACC team I included by mistake changes that conclusion, we'll have to agree to disagree.
There a bunch of putrid teams in the SEC. Same goes for the Big 10. Not sure what point that was. The top of the SEC Is typically much better than the top of the Big 10. I don't think that is an outrageous statement at all.
I have no dog in this fight. I hope Michigan is competitive in the playoff because I want all three games to be interesting. Too many times in the past they have been lopsided.
OSU hasn't been competitive vs. SEC in bowl games the last 15 years? If memory serves, they've played 4 or 5 bowl games vs. SEC opponents & are either 2-3 or 2-2. 'Bama smoked them in 2020, but other than that...OSU has played well in bowls. The school that's been a thorn in their side has been Clemson.
OSU hasn't been competitive vs. SEC in bowl games the last 15 years? If memory serves, they've played 4 or 5 bowl games vs. SEC opponents & are either 2-3 or 2-2. 'Bama smoked them in 2020, but other than that...OSU has played well in bowls. The school that's been a thorn in their side has been Clemson.
2-4 if you count all bowl games since 2007. And that isn't cherry picking since their only other bowl games against SEC teams were in the early 2000s and they lost both of those.
You can argue that record is competitive with the SEC, but I sure wouldn't.
Michigan’s D stepped up in the second half.
Ah, no they don't. Not this year.
??? Not with that defensive game plan they don’t
Michigan’s D stepped up in the second half.
Same play twice in a row burned them. And there was a LB there to make a play
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If I were an Ohio State fan I’d be a bit annoyed by his comments. “Nothing to be worried about”. Really? Having one safety - or no safeties - deep was not a good game plan.
Michigan’s D stepped up in the second half.
Same play twice in a row burned them. And there was a LB there to make a play
Who took a bad angle
Except for his TD Michigan kept Harrison Jr in check.
I am puzzled by this opinion. How can anyone watch that game, or any of the other Michigan games this year, and make that remark?
Michigan is not gaudy. They aren't a spread offense. But what they will do is run the ball directly at you and make you stop them with that big, physical offensive line and run game for 60 minutes. They are workmanlike.
Defensively they will hit you, they will cover you, and they will tackle you. They are fundamentally sound and they are disciplined.
The brand of football they play isn't popular in the NCAA today, but it is effective. Smart, fast, and physical.
Also...they still have one game remaining, but it would be pretty difficult to keep one of only three undefeated teams in the country out of the playoff.
Michigan vs Georgia last year was sad.
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What in the world have you been watching?
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They are 12-0, including 20+ point drubbings of OSU and PSU. The combined scores of their games are 478-151, for a game avg of 40-13. They have scored 40+ points in half their games, 50+ in four of them. They have allowed 10 or fewer points in five of their games. They can control the trenches, they have a blue-chip RB and an ascendant QB. If they don’t belong anywhere near the CFP, who the fuck does? Asinine.
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Troll who doesn’t know they are being trolled says what?
Their out of conference schedule was an absolute joke.
Colorado State
UConn
Hawaii
All in Ann Arbor
They didn't play a road game until a month into the season. They played two good teams all year. The refs had to save them against Illinois at the end of the game. They'll get to a CFP game and get wrecked like they did last year because the competition will be nothing compared to what they faced during the year.
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They are 12-0, including 20+ point drubbings of OSU and PSU. The combined scores of their games are 478-151, for a game avg of 40-13. They have scored 40+ points in half their games, 50+ in four of them. They have allowed 10 or fewer points in five of their games. They can control the trenches, they have a blue-chip RB and an ascendant QB. If they don’t belong anywhere near the CFP, who the fuck does? Asinine.
Their out of conference schedule was an absolute joke.
Colorado State
UConn
Hawaii
All in Ann Arbor
They didn't play a road game until a month into the season. They played two good teams all year. The refs had to save them against Illinois at the end of the game. They'll get to a CFP game and get wrecked like they did last year because the competition will be nothing compared to what they faced during the year.
Ohio played the likes of Toledo and Arkansas State. Your take on Michigan is obviously biased and influenced by Michigan dominance the last two years. Yawn.
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They are 12-0, including 20+ point drubbings of OSU and PSU. The combined scores of their games are 478-151, for a game avg of 40-13. They have scored 40+ points in half their games, 50+ in four of them. They have allowed 10 or fewer points in five of their games. They can control the trenches, they have a blue-chip RB and an ascendant QB. If they don’t belong anywhere near the CFP, who the fuck does? Asinine.
Their out of conference schedule was an absolute joke.
Colorado State
UConn
Hawaii
All in Ann Arbor
They didn't play a road game until a month into the season. They played two good teams all year. The refs had to save them against Illinois at the end of the game. They'll get to a CFP game and get wrecked like they did last year because the competition will be nothing compared to what they faced during the year.
Ohio played the likes of Toledo and Arkansas State. Your take on Michigan is obviously biased and influenced by Michigan dominance the last two years. Yawn.
I'm a Notre Dame fan, so I don't care for either Michigan or OSU. They both play similar schedules, and frontload with cupcakes. OSU just happened to have Notre Dame this year (and next) and got a tough game from them and if ND had any semblance of offense, they would have won that game.
Next year Michigan also starts the season with four straight home games and their out of conference schedule is:
East Carolina
UNLV
Bowling Green
Yawn.
Proud of the Maize and Blue. #MichiganMan
? Plenty of future pros on Michigan & Ohio State
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They are 12-0, including 20+ point drubbings of OSU and PSU. The combined scores of their games are 478-151, for a game avg of 40-13. They have scored 40+ points in half their games, 50+ in four of them. They have allowed 10 or fewer points in five of their games. They can control the trenches, they have a blue-chip RB and an ascendant QB. If they don’t belong anywhere near the CFP, who the fuck does? Asinine.
Their out of conference schedule was an absolute joke.
Colorado State
UConn
Hawaii
All in Ann Arbor
They didn't play a road game until a month into the season. They played two good teams all year. The refs had to save them against Illinois at the end of the game. They'll get to a CFP game and get wrecked like they did last year because the competition will be nothing compared to what they faced during the year.
Who’s wrecking them the first round of the CFP?
East Carolina
UNLV
Bowling Green
Yawn.
Alabama and Georgia also have multiple cupcakes on their schedule.
Your argument is bullshit.
Normally, I would agree. But not this year. I don't think Georgia is as good as last year. They were lucky to get out of Missouri alive and fortunate to beat Kentucky, where Will Levis threw an absurd INT in the endzone, and the KY FG kicker missed a chip shot FG.
Michigan has more overall talent this year, especially at QB. So, I could see Michigan giving Georgia a very good battle.
On a different topic, I have zero doubt Bama is much better than TCU. And USC. And Ohio State. Etc.
I would bet Bama would be the favorite against any team except Georgia on a neutral site.
If the goal is to get the best four teams, and not the teams with the best records and "accomplishments" (like winning their conference), then Bama should get a spot. They lost two games on the road on the last play of the game. And by a combined four points.
Who pissed in your cheerios? I cared - I watched the whole game and have zero connection to either school. So did millions of others.
If you care about college football at all - you care about one if its most important rivalries. I'll take a big time CFB rivalry game over a CFP game any day.
Did you miss the game? Michigan beats them 9 out of 10 times this season. In the first OSU decided to stop the run and Michigan threw it all over the field. In the second half they backed off that and Michigan ran it all over them.
This game was men against boys. If you believe Michigan is no where near the top 4 then OSU is probably somewhere in the 20-25 range.
Michigan vs Georgia last year was sad.
You have not noticed the SEC beating the tar out of Ohio State for the better part of the last decade?
Georgia will level Michigan. They would level Ohio State too. The SEC is just light years ahead of the Big 10 and have been for a very long time.
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Clearly at undefeated they deserve a go. Just tired of the likes of Michigan and notre dame and these other teams that can’t match up with the SEC get their shit pushed in when it counts. Atleast Ohio state has proven to be the opponent in the past.
Michigan vs Georgia last year was sad.
You have not noticed the SEC beating the tar out of Ohio State for the better part of the last decade?
Georgia will level Michigan. They would level Ohio State too. The SEC is just light years ahead of the Big 10 and have been for a very long time.
You're going to have to point out to me all the times the SEC has "beat the tar" out of Ohio State since Urban got there. 2020 National Championship game, that's it. And that was maybe Saban's best team. But I could counter that with the 2014 semi final with Ohio State beating Alabama. You're exaggerating considerably here. The way Michigan is playing, unfortunately for me, I do not think Georgia beats them handily
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Clearly at undefeated they deserve a go. Just tired of the likes of Michigan and notre dame and these other teams that can’t match up with the SEC get their shit pushed in when it counts. Atleast Ohio state has proven to be the opponent in the past.
Michigan vs Georgia last year was sad.
You have not noticed the SEC beating the tar out of Ohio State for the better part of the last decade?
Georgia will level Michigan. They would level Ohio State too. The SEC is just light years ahead of the Big 10 and have been for a very long time.
I'm not sure if they will level Michigan again. There is a huge difference for Michigan at QB this year vs last year.
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East Carolina
UNLV
Bowling Green
Yawn.
Alabama and Georgia also have multiple cupcakes on their schedule.
Your argument is bullshit.
I'm fully aware the SEC is overrated and plays inferior opponents. The weekend the SEC dedicates in November to playing cupcake teams before rivalry weekend is ridiculous.
But, Georgia played Oregon out of conference and Alabama played Texas this year. Michigan played nobody.
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Clearly at undefeated they deserve a go. Just tired of the likes of Michigan and notre dame and these other teams that can’t match up with the SEC get their shit pushed in when it counts. Atleast Ohio state has proven to be the opponent in the past.
Michigan vs Georgia last year was sad.
You have not noticed the SEC beating the tar out of Ohio State for the better part of the last decade?
Georgia will level Michigan. They would level Ohio State too. The SEC is just light years ahead of the Big 10 and have been for a very long time.
You're going to have to point out to me all the times the SEC has "beat the tar" out of Ohio State since Urban got there. 2020 National Championship game, that's it. And that was maybe Saban's best team. But I could counter that with the 2014 semi final with Ohio State beating Alabama. You're exaggerating considerably here. The way Michigan is playing, unfortunately for me, I do not think Georgia beats them handily
Sorry, I cut it off just after back to back destructions by the SEC in 2007 and 2008. Since then it only happened two more times in 2016 and 2021. This is against one win against the SEC in bowl games since 2012.
So I will correct my previous statement to "beat the tar out of Ohio State" for the better part of the past 15 years, except that single win OSU had in 2015.
Better?
There's a pretty clear distinction for Ohio State from the Tressel years where they didn't have the athletes to compete with the SEC, to after Urban was hired where he began to recruit more nationally and beat Alabama. So yeah, the distinction matters. Ohio State still recruits at that level, produces NFL athletes at a similar level. So the fact that Michigan has raised their caliber to now comfortably beat them, tells me they shouldn't be so easily dismissed.
The credit that the "SEC" gets when it's really just Alabama and more recently Georgia is pretty funny. Whole bunch of mediocre programs in there and they've lost plenty of bowl games over the past decade
Hard to evaluate the OSU qb. Plays with a very clean pocket all the time and has great receivers.
My point was that OSU has not been particularly competitive with the SEC in bowl games the last 15 years. If you want to believe that parsing that down to the HC and yes, removing the one game with an ACC team I included by mistake changes that conclusion, we'll have to agree to disagree.
There a bunch of putrid teams in the SEC. Same goes for the Big 10. Not sure what point that was. The top of the SEC Is typically much better than the top of the Big 10. I don't think that is an outrageous statement at all.
I have no dog in this fight. I hope Michigan is competitive in the playoff because I want all three games to be interesting. Too many times in the past they have been lopsided.
2-4 if you count all bowl games since 2007. And that isn't cherry picking since their only other bowl games against SEC teams were in the early 2000s and they lost both of those.
You can argue that record is competitive with the SEC, but I sure wouldn't.