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Giants/Washington Tiebreaker Situation

RutgersGiantsFan : 11/28/2022 12:04 pm
It's exciting that for the first time in 6 years the Giants will be playing meaningful games in December! The two Washington games are pivotal. According to 538, the Giants current playoff chances are 49%. A win over Washington increases their chances to 72%, while a loss drops them to 26%. The results of these two matchups will also determine the tiebreaker. Obviously if one team sweeps the other team, then that team will hold the tiebreaker, but things get a little tricky if they split. Below are the remaining schedules of both teams and various scenarios:

NYG: WAS, PHI, @ WAS, @ MIN, IND, @PHI

WAS: @NYG, BYE, NYG, @SF, CLE, DAL

Scenario I: Giants go 10-7 by splitting with Washington, splitting with the Eagles and beating the Colts or Vikings. In this scenario, if Washington finishes 10-7 with a win over the Cowboys, Washington will win the tiebreaker with a 3-3 division record compared to the Giants' 2-4 division record. If Washington goes 10-7 by losing to the Cowboys, the Giants would win the tiebreaker over Washington on common opponents.

Scenario II: Giants go 10-7 by splitting with Washington and beating the Vikings and Colts. Washington wins the tiebreaker in all scenarios on division record since the Giants would be 0-4 against the Cowboys and Eagles and Washington already has a win over the Eagles.

Scenario III: Giants go 9-8 by splitting with Washington and beating the Vikings or Colts. Same as above. Washington wins the tiebreaker over the Giants on division record.

Scneario IV: Giants go 9-8 by splitting with Washington and beating the Eagles once.

A. If Washington goes 9-8 by splitting with the Giants and beating the Cowboys, Washington wins the tiebreaker on division record.

B. If Washington goes 9-8 by splitting with the Giants and beating the 49ers, Washington wins the tiebreaker over the Giants as division record and common opponents record (the tiebreaker after division record) would be the same, but Washington would have the edge in the next tiebreaker which is conference record.

C. If Washington goes 9-8 by splitting with the Giants and beating the Browns, then the Giants and Washington would have the same record in division games, common games and conference games, so it goes to the next tiebreaker, which is strength of victory or combined records of the teams you've beaten. The Giants and Washington have beaten a lot of the same teams, so there is a lot of overlap here. The difference would be the Giants beat the Titans, Ravens, and Panthers while Washington beat the Colts, Browns, and Falcons. The Giants should have the edge here as the combined record of the Titans, Ravens and Panthers should be higher than that of the Colts, Browns and Falcons by the end of the season.
Washington definitely  
OBJ_AllDay : 11/28/2022 12:11 pm : link
has the easier path moving forward. Giants will need to take care of business in their head to head matchups with Washington.

Man, what a tough break having that ball intercepted inside the 5. An Atlanta win would have been enormous yesterday.
Looks Like Best Way To PLayoffs is To Sweep Washington  
LTIsTheGreatest : 11/28/2022 12:12 pm : link
Washington seems to have the tiebreaker edge in most of the other scenarios. This Sunday is almost a must win for us after losing the last 2 games.
This Sunday IS a playoff game  
JohnB : 11/28/2022 12:24 pm : link
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A loss Sunday  
ajr2456 : 11/28/2022 12:29 pm : link
Greatly dooms the Giants playoff chances. Big game
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ryanmkeane : 11/28/2022 12:44 pm : link
we can beat them twice. play well and it'll happen.
RE: This Sunday IS a playoff game  
BillKo : 11/28/2022 1:09 pm : link
In comment 15925087 JohnB said:
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Exactly.

It's December, we've been waiting this for a decade (sans 2016).

Hopefully this becomes the rule rather than exception going forward.....we are 7-4 and right in the hunt.
RE: Washington definitely  
Pepe LePugh : 11/28/2022 1:42 pm : link
In comment 15925070 OBJ_AllDay said:
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has the easier path moving forward. Giants will need to take care of business in their head to head matchups with Washington.


Yes, but not by much. Browns with Watson back, plus Eagles and Cowboys is no cake walk.
RE: RE: Washington definitely  
OBJ_AllDay : 11/28/2022 1:57 pm : link
In comment 15925252 Pepe LePugh said:
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In comment 15925070 OBJ_AllDay said:


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has the easier path moving forward. Giants will need to take care of business in their head to head matchups with Washington.




Yes, but not by much. Browns with Watson back, plus Eagles and Cowboys is no cake walk.


They don't get the Eagles. They have @Giants, Giants, @9ers, Browns, Cowboys. I also have a feeling Cowboys will be resting starters in the finale. Giants just need to find a way to beat Washington twice.
hmm  
jvm52106 : 11/28/2022 2:50 pm : link
not sure I say easier, just different.

WAS: @NYG, BYE, NYG, @SF, CLE, DAL

They get us in back to back games and where some of what we did in game 1 may not be relevant in game 2 based on what we did in between those games. For us, we have our Washington film from before and from game 1.

Secondly- SF, Cleveland (with Watson and a tough defense when healthy) and then Dallas seems pretty tough to me. Add in us, as we do match up well against Washington and Daboll's offensive scheme has seen Washington (last year week 3).

We have our own work to do but if Washington fans are counting us as not that tough they are just like us as counting Washington as our winnable games.

Daniel Jones has a passer rating of 100.4 with 1,150 yards, 9 touchdowns and 3 interceptions in 5 games versus the Washington Football Team in his career.

RE: hmm  
OBJ_AllDay : 11/28/2022 3:34 pm : link
In comment 15925413 jvm52106 said:
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not sure I say easier, just different.

WAS: @NYG, BYE, NYG, @SF, CLE, DAL

They get us in back to back games and where some of what we did in game 1 may not be relevant in game 2 based on what we did in between those games. For us, we have our Washington film from before and from game 1.

Secondly- SF, Cleveland (with Watson and a tough defense when healthy) and then Dallas seems pretty tough to me. Add in us, as we do match up well against Washington and Daboll's offensive scheme has seen Washington (last year week 3).

We have our own work to do but if Washington fans are counting us as not that tough they are just like us as counting Washington as our winnable games.

Daniel Jones has a passer rating of 100.4 with 1,150 yards, 9 touchdowns and 3 interceptions in 5 games versus the Washington Football Team in his career.


easier in the fact that if they end up with the same record as the NYG and split the head to head games with the NYG they in all likelihood win the tiebreaker off the division win against Philly. But a lot could happen between now and the end of the year. The giants do control their own destiny. Better show up against Washington... I know its a longshot possibility, but there's always the chance that Seattle could drop 4 of its next 6 thus ending up with 8 wins and giants only requiring 2 more wins to secure a playoff spot. But I think its unlikely.
Biggest game of Jones' career  
Thegratefulhead : 11/28/2022 3:38 pm : link
He needs to win this game. I know it is a team game. Jones needs to go above the X's & O's on few plays that make the difference. Put the big boy pants on. He has done it few times this year.

Do it again.
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