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Sy'56 : 11/28/2022 1:17 pm
Hi all-

Someone mentioned (and a few agreed) that in the BBI Game Reviews - they skip the game recap and move right to the player analysis.

To be blunt with myself - I know I am more of a scout that is trying to write. I am not a writer that is trying to scout. Professional journalists are much better at that than I am. Completely aware of that.

Personally - writing the game recap is a time/word suck (give or take 1,200 words) and I could switch the format up if you (and Eric) agree it would be better content for you to read. Here are 3 options and any opinions would be welcomed. I have thick skin - you can be real.

A) Keep it as is.

B) Take away Game Recap - add a bit more to Player Analysis

C) Instead of a Game Recap - write the 3 most influential / turning points of the game. This mayget dicey and cause unnecessary disagreements / fights - but maybe could add more discussion.

I am all ears, thanks.
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Honest Opinion  
Geno 78 : 11/28/2022 5:01 pm : link

You are the best !! C sounds like it would be the the best!
Joe Beckwith : 11/28/2022 5:11 pm : link
I enjoy the recap, in part because you may inject a perspective in the description of a play/moment/ situation that we may not have observed as a fan but gave a scouts view of it.
And , living out of the market and getting fewer Giants feeds without streaming, a game recap is helpful without reading the whole BBI game discussion( sorry Eric) because the wife sees a game non network availability as an opportunity to do something else( she does understand that situation and willing to also not push to do ‘something else’).
A mix of B and C  
loafin : 11/28/2022 5:14 pm : link
C doesn’t even have to a key play. What I’m looking for is a play you have looked at in making a decision about a player.

An example would be where Daniel Jones made the best play he could have or missed a wide open receiver.

Another might be where Kayvon or Ward held the edge / or didn’t hold the edge on a running play.
glad this was brought up  
drac56 : 11/28/2022 5:19 pm : link
i just read the player analysis
I vote B  
SomeFan : 11/28/2022 5:25 pm : link
B + C  
UConn4523 : 11/28/2022 5:25 pm : link
would be the best IMO
My order of preference:  
kevken60 : 11/28/2022 5:28 pm : link
With heartfelt thanks to you for your contributions and to Eric for still the best MFin site on the internet.
Sy, if it reduces the burden,  
section125 : 11/28/2022 5:32 pm : link
go with B & C. We will argue anyway. But that is the best part. We know what happened in the game, so analysis of who was great and who screwed up....

Thanks so much to yourself and Eric for these.
Daniel in MI : 11/28/2022 5:45 pm : link
I think any key plays can be picked up during the player/position part.

I’d love more of B. It’s what your key value added is. There’s a game summary posted each week. Just link to it.

But I’d love if you paid more attn to special teams, for example.
B absolutely  
islander1 : 11/28/2022 5:46 pm : link
I agree with most of the others, I read these reviews to get your professional insight as a scout.

I could write part A. Most of us could.
I could never write parts B and C.

This board greatly appreciates all of your contributions, but if you could save yourself an hour not doing a big recap, I mean yeah, that's no big loss for us :)
B (and/or C)  
jamalduff123 : 11/28/2022 6:09 pm : link
Agree with most others that the recap is not essential. Regardless, thanks for all your contributions to the site-- I always look forward to your posts and reviews!
My humble opinion...  
Photoguy : 11/28/2022 6:15 pm : link
let Eric cover the game, and you do the rest.
IMO, Write what you are best at writing about.  
Marty in Albany : 11/28/2022 6:16 pm : link
If your opinions/analysis are part of your recap summary, I want to know those opinions. I'm a fan, not a football expert. If I were an expert, I would not be on BBI every day. I watch the games and pretty much know WHAT happened. I highly value your opinions on WHY it happened and what to expect down the road.

This may cause you extra work, but I think your reports would be improved if you put the players' names in bold font so that they would stand out.

I think you do a damn good recap  
Wiggy : 11/28/2022 6:21 pm : link
But if you took that energy and added it to additional player analysis it would put your weekly write ups over the top.


Thanks I enjoy your perspective 👍
I read your entire reviews  
GiantTuff1 : 11/28/2022 6:24 pm : link
and would keep it the same but also understand how precious time is. If it’s too much to do that part and most of the community feels it’s expendable then Option C.

Also I enjoy your writing style. I read it because you’re a scout and not a “writer”. I want straight to the point and not flowery BS.
christian : 11/28/2022 6:25 pm : link
There are plenty of resources for what happened — what makes your content special is your ability to comment on why it happened.

If Eric gets traffic and SEO from the recaps, you can probably kill that bird with a few paragraphs and then get to the meat.

Your player reviews and when your explanations of key moments, are top notch.
We all appreciate you Sy....  
edavisiii : 11/28/2022 6:31 pm : link
But I'm in the group that goes right to the player analysis. Your summaries are the best as is your draft reports. Quick, concise and to the point. I also write. Mainly about education in papers and educational journals. I think your style is awesome. When I come home after a day at work I don't want to read a novel about the game or the upcoming draft. You always hit the nail on the head!
prdave73 : 11/28/2022 6:34 pm : link
Would be just fine. Thanks.
Gman11 : 11/28/2022 6:36 pm : link
Plan B ....  
morrison40 : 11/28/2022 6:37 pm : link
From Outer Space
Brandon Walsh : 11/28/2022 6:45 pm : link
I skip the game recap  
thefan : 11/28/2022 6:48 pm : link
because I watched the game. The few times I've read the game recap is when I wasn't able to watch the game. In the last 15 years I've missed watching about 5 games due to either personal issues or Joe Judge.

So yeah, I read everything but the recap not because of your writing or anything, but because I watched the game and am looking for something beyond a recap when I read your reviews.
C, B, A  
Giantimistic : 11/28/2022 6:49 pm : link
I think you should do C next week and then B the following week. Then we can really compare all three options.
C and you write very well  
JoeMorrison40 : 11/28/2022 6:50 pm : link
Most of us watch the game. And I look forward to your reviews. And when readers add your draft comment on the players involved. Thank you gym
C and/or B  
Ben in Tampa : 11/28/2022 6:59 pm : link
Even if it oscillated between the two from week to week.

Sy… do what you want to do!
Dc2356 : 11/28/2022 7:05 pm : link
Appreciate the great work.
I'll take  
River Mike : 11/28/2022 7:10 pm : link
what's behind door B
B with maybe 1 c  
56n11bestever : 11/28/2022 7:11 pm : link
The player analysis is great and thank you !!!

Maybe a play or 2 breakdown would be great which would help us learn the game and why you scouted the way you do.

Thank you the writing and whatever saves you the most time while providing the benefits you do works for me
90.Cal : 11/28/2022 7:11 pm : link
It's what you do and its what your best at.

Still a must read any which way you do it
Just give the scouting  
JerrysKids : 11/28/2022 7:29 pm : link
Reports on the players that is what you do so well that I like to read
RE: A blend of B&C  
Brick72 : 11/28/2022 7:45 pm : link
Absolutely agree with this. Sy, your views on the nuances of what happened during the game are special. Your analysis outweighs any recap.

I thank you for every post you've made. So very appreciated.
B or C  
VanillaVick : 11/28/2022 7:55 pm : link
Thanks for your contribution, I look forward to reading it every week!
I guess I’m in the minority: I really enjoy your current format (A)  
Rick in Dallas : 11/28/2022 7:59 pm : link
Sy thanks for all your hard work on the site
You add tremendous value to BBI
I’m with  
Joeguido : 11/28/2022 8:03 pm : link
The blend of B&C options. But I enjoy your game review as is so whatever works for everyone. Thanks for your work Sy
I’m just realizing after reading your post  
exiled : 11/28/2022 8:15 pm : link
That I read your game reviews specifically for the player evaluations. So, B and/or C would be great!
BigBlueinDE : 11/28/2022 8:19 pm : link
Option B  
chiro56 : 11/28/2022 8:23 pm : link
Thank you
Devour the Day : 11/28/2022 8:24 pm : link
with a sprinkle of C would be awesome.

Thanks for all you do Sy Love your puts, analysis and thoughts.
This ^^^^  
VanPelt/Manning#10 : 11/28/2022 8:26 pm : link
B with a sprinkling of C
6 pages in, probably too late to the party  
D HOS : 11/28/2022 8:27 pm : link
But for what it's worth, since Eric also provides a recap of the game, and I watched it in the first place, I personally skim through that and go right to the analysis.

Personally, I would prefer if game reviews were heavy on analysis and Sy's experienced and educated interpretation, not so much the recap.
JesseS : 11/28/2022 8:28 pm : link
definitely B.
OBJRoyal : 11/28/2022 8:30 pm : link
Is probably the best way to go, but C was a solid addition to the discussion
JoeSchoens11 : 11/28/2022 8:57 pm : link
These reviews are permanently stored on this site and are easily accessible across years. I know it’s a lot of work going into detail per drive (with the option of glossing over a few) but having the story of the flow of the game adds a lot of value.
Mark from Jersey : 11/28/2022 8:59 pm : link
I cannot say the last time I read the actual game reviews but always read the player evaluations, studs/duds, what you think about our previous opponent, and your three items you were thinking of about the Giants during the game.
BigBlueJ : 11/28/2022 9:03 pm : link
I also do not read the game recap especially if we lost.
B or C  
GFiLA : 11/28/2022 9:07 pm : link
BUT I want to make sure that you know I totally appreciate the insight and time you put into the post. I look forward to it.
bLiTz 2k : 11/28/2022 9:28 pm : link
Without question.

All of the work you do Sy is awesome, and I digest every bit of it...

However I think me, and everyone else on this board, have had seen the game when we read your review...a recap in any sense is not warranted.

Get to your meat and potatoes that we all appreciate so much, and you are golden.

Either way, thanks for your content and contribution to BBI - you are the man.
Another vote for B  
Jay on the Island : 11/28/2022 9:45 pm : link
Thank you everyone  
Sy'56 : 11/29/2022 6:23 am : link
This helped a lot!
The only reason I don't read the recap  
JOrthman : 11/29/2022 10:47 am : link
Is I've watched the game. I'm more interested in specific players I may not have saw during the game. When you're sitting at home, you're subject to what the camera shows you. So, I know how the game, went, but not how specific players may have played. I'm looking for a professional opinion on what you saw.
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