Hi all-
Someone mentioned (and a few agreed) that in the BBI Game Reviews - they skip the game recap and move right to the player analysis.
To be blunt with myself - I know I am more of a scout that is trying to write. I am not a writer that is trying to scout. Professional journalists are much better at that than I am. Completely aware of that.
Personally - writing the game recap is a time/word suck (give or take 1,200 words) and I could switch the format up if you (and Eric) agree it would be better content for you to read. Here are 3 options and any opinions would be welcomed. I have thick skin - you can be real.
A) Keep it as is.
B) Take away Game Recap - add a bit more to Player Analysis
C) Instead of a Game Recap - write the 3 most influential / turning points of the game. This mayget dicey and cause unnecessary disagreements / fights - but maybe could add more discussion.
I am all ears, thanks.
I like B and C.
I dig a lot of the podcasts out there that break down from a schematic standpoint the key plays in the game, but I would love from a player development/scouting standpoint what went wrong/correct.
Your recap is something I genuinely look forward to.
But I have the attention span of a fruit fly, and I also watch all the games.
That said , maybe for those who didn't watch the game, option A may work for them
Thanks for the write-ups!
Please.
But frankly anything you write is great!!!
I also hope you don't take any of the idotic stuff folks say on your posts seriously at all....they clearly have no idea how fortunate they are to have access to what you deliver on a weekly basis.Game recap and what the other team looks like going forward isn't as much of an interest to me,outside of how it effects our team.I guess teams that are division rivals maybe,but generally speaking I enjoy your analysis of how our guys play more than anything.
It's actually X mas morning every tuesday for me...as i await to hear what you see from the tape.
So thanks again!!
Emphatically +1
I would agree with many that I typically race through the game recap to get to your insights. But I would not be in favor of just scrapping it without your key takeaways on the game script itself. Your views for example on the game's key turning points, good/bad decisions, etc. are always of great interest above and beyond simply the player analyses.
So A or C would be my preference...
I think discussing key points in the game might be interesting -- but I am much more interested in reading about how the players and the their groups performed
this is particularly true now that we are in a rebuilding phase and there are a ton of unknowns going forward on this team -- there is also the aspect of measuring how the players are developing
If the recap is half the work you should skip it or adjust it since it is much less than half the value. Said differently, almost any of could write a decent recap, and almost none of us can add the value of player analysis that you do.
Say X player missed an assignment, but player Z made an exceptional play that covered the mistake. Or worse the play was simply blown.
You do nice work Sy. Thanks.
But as many noted, I too would like option B if somewhat of a fresh take is needed.
Anything you decide to write is great reading material
Plus. When draft comes around your analysis is the ABSOLUTE fucking best reading material around
However, your insight into, who played well, who was disappointing, and how their collective play affected the game is enlightening.
Maybe consider a podcast - ha!
Thanks for asking.
I do not read the recap. I watched the game and recap and highlights are available on many sites.
I very much enjoy the analysis of how each of the units and the players mentioned performed.
The player analysis is the key part for me though as I can't watch the game multiple times to key on players anymore.
I watched the game, so the game recap is nice, but unnecessary. I'd prefer more player and specific play analysis.
for color i usually go right to the player evaluations as well.
So I favor a more abbreviated game recap if it will save time, and DEFINTELY would like more of you insights as a scout, about everything that is a good use of your time.
For the recap maybe instead of a drive-by-drive summary, an emphasis on key parts of the game or even better, anything you notice about an in-game change in strategy like a change in defensive fronts or increased use of the tight end for helping out on pass-blocking, or whatever, would be incredibly useful in that this is not a review of an individual performance but more of a birds-eye view of coaching strategy and in-game adjustments. This is something as a scout you will notice but those of us who are just regular viewers (or in any case those who don't see the all-22) would not be aware of.
Thanks so much for doing this!
Really appreciate your analysis re: individual players and/or player groups.
Thanks!
The only thing I usually do with the game recap is look for your take on a play or two (like the failed 4th and 1 from the Dallas game). Feels like those pivotal plays are usually picked up in your player analysis.
I love your work ... and really appreciate your willingness to share!
I'm in.
I love and appreciate all your work but look for player analysis.
Personally I agree that on the morning after I tend to skip the game narrative and jump to the position grouping evaluations, but I disagree that the recap has no value. That's because when I look back 5 years later, or even a year later, the narrative is very helpful as a reminder for what we thought we saw at the time.
I hope you can continue to do this part of the review, or work it out with Eric so that someone continues that element of the review and combines it with your contribution on the evaluation side.
Thanks again for your work!
Apart from that, the player analyses are the most valuable feature, for an unbiased opinion that can make us think and generate discussion.
Appreciate all the hard work.
Thanks for all you do, Sy!
Thank you.
I vote for B also
I would also appreciate some analysis of what went right/wrong on critical plays, or where any given player flubbed, or did stellar. We all see the results of a play, but some of us don't know why on occasion, especially if critical action is happening off the TV screen (for example, on TV, we can't see if receivers are getting open, or if coverage is getting beat, IF that action isn't involved in the pass thrown)
For historical purposes, game recaps can probably be found online somewhere.
and the game recap does seem to basically reproduce a lot of what eric writes immediately following the game.
so there is a bit of redundancy there with the current format.
Thank you Sy!!
I like reading about player groups. Definitely keep studs and duds.
But you’re the boss so I appreciate your insight and want you to know I appreciate it.
I skip the game recap and go straight to the player analysis. Appreciate your work. Do what is best for you.
As a side note- I really like the 3 things section for the other team and for the Giants at the end.
Thanks for all you do Sy. It is greatly appreciated.
I look forward to your recap and analysis. Keep up the goos work.
And as has been said don't let some of the idiots here turn you off. You do a great job that's really appreciated!
B
A
turning points are a great idea because they exist in every game and are sometimes quickly forgotten. Hodgins fumble vs. Detroit, Hutchinson's INT, Barkley's 4th down drop, etc.
So B or C works for me.
THANK YOU, SY!
B
Thank you for all you do!
Thanks for all the hard work, I appreciate your content!
“The player analysis is what I'm looking for.” And I agree.
IF the Game Review is a chore and the player evaluations come more easily, I’d clearly vote for “B” as the detailed player evaluations are a more rare and insightful group of content than the game review.
As others have said, your contributions both in season and off season are among the top “reasons to visit BBI”. Keep up the great work.
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Mike
Teach us.
Give us a few plays to look at on the All 22 each week related to the extra analysis.
Yes, I am asking for homework.
Love your reviews!
B
A
Also, your piece is what I look forward to most each week. Your insights are most appreciated.
If the recap is drudgery for you, drop it. Eric already does that write up.
(the game summary is probably good for those that didn't watch it but I'm guessing most here watch it live)
OR
Take a more in-depth look at one position group that played very well or very badly that game.
Player analysis, thoughts on the opponents and the Jints - all great stuff. Thanks for all your contributions to the site, really makes it worthwhile for me.
B is my favorite option, C is also good.
Another option: Someone else could write the recaps, you could review them and add anything you want to flag. It'd be a good exercise for a young, aspiring writer who wants to build up their resume and get some clips to show.
We watch the game and basically see or read the game recap elsewhere.
Your individual player analysis is much more important because I never look at all 22. I’m sure most of us would agree.
I trust your opinion on our players more than anything else I read or what I see with my own eyes.
Kudos to you and your expert analysis!
As others have said, your analysis, insight, and intelligence are superb: we hang on those words.
Thanks, so much
I know that you will often reference coaching in your "3 things" section, but that is often more of a "big picture" view rather than coaching decisions made in that particular game.
Its all so valuable that I will be reading regardless. I recognize how much work this all is and I just want to tell you how enjoyable and insightful it all is. Thanks
That said, you're saying 'time suck' so that tells me if you could bullet your key points/observations/what-we-might-have-missed by drive and feel like that was a better allocation of time, I'd go that way. I guess this is a modified 'C'
More positional content by all means. I had a person curious about why NYG let Landon Collins go and sent them the link to the reviews of his final full season here and got a 'wow, now I get it - thanks' in response.
I also like the 'few thoughts' on the opponents. Hard to evaluate your team without some context. You were sticking up for the way Carroll and Schneider have worked together even as Russ was showing his level of cooking wouldn't cut it at Papa Johns. Please keep these up.
We are a fortunate fanbase in general in terms of content but we can never say too many times how much your work is appreciated here.
I’d agree with you that Owner Eric should have major input on removing A, for the reason you cited. And then, Fan Eric might have another selection…
He is the Boss, so there’s that!
I would agree that B often has C included, so an enhanced B makes good sense.
I should also add there's nothing wrong with your writing. I enjoy your writing!
You are the best !! C sounds like it would be the the best!
And , living out of the market and getting fewer Giants feeds without streaming, a game recap is helpful without reading the whole BBI game discussion( sorry Eric) because the wife sees a game non network availability as an opportunity to do something else( she does understand that situation and willing to also not push to do ‘something else’).
An example would be where Daniel Jones made the best play he could have or missed a wide open receiver.
Another might be where Kayvon or Ward held the edge / or didn’t hold the edge on a running play.
C
A
With heartfelt thanks to you for your contributions and to Eric for still the best MFin site on the internet.
Thanks so much to yourself and Eric for these.
I’d love more of B. It’s what your key value added is. There’s a game summary posted each week. Just link to it.
But I’d love if you paid more attn to special teams, for example.
I could write part A. Most of us could.
I could never write parts B and C.
This board greatly appreciates all of your contributions, but if you could save yourself an hour not doing a big recap, I mean yeah, that's no big loss for us :)
This may cause you extra work, but I think your reports would be improved if you put the players' names in bold font so that they would stand out.
B&C
Thanks I enjoy your perspective 👍
Also I enjoy your writing style. I read it because you’re a scout and not a “writer”. I want straight to the point and not flowery BS.
If Eric gets traffic and SEO from the recaps, you can probably kill that bird with a few paragraphs and then get to the meat.
Your player reviews and when your explanations of key moments, are top notch.
So yeah, I read everything but the recap not because of your writing or anything, but because I watched the game and am looking for something beyond a recap when I read your reviews.
Sy… do what you want to do!
Maybe a play or 2 breakdown would be great which would help us learn the game and why you scouted the way you do.
Thank you the writing and whatever saves you the most time while providing the benefits you do works for me
Still a must read any which way you do it
I thank you for every post you've made. So very appreciated.
You add tremendous value to BBI
Thanks for all you do Sy Love your puts, analysis and thoughts.
Personally, I would prefer if game reviews were heavy on analysis and Sy's experienced and educated interpretation, not so much the recap.
All of the work you do Sy is awesome, and I digest every bit of it...
However I think me, and everyone else on this board, have had seen the game when we read your review...a recap in any sense is not warranted.
Get to your meat and potatoes that we all appreciate so much, and you are golden.
Either way, thanks for your content and contribution to BBI - you are the man.