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Sy'56 : 11/28/2022 1:17 pm
Hi all-

Someone mentioned (and a few agreed) that in the BBI Game Reviews - they skip the game recap and move right to the player analysis.

To be blunt with myself - I know I am more of a scout that is trying to write. I am not a writer that is trying to scout. Professional journalists are much better at that than I am. Completely aware of that.

Personally - writing the game recap is a time/word suck (give or take 1,200 words) and I could switch the format up if you (and Eric) agree it would be better content for you to read. Here are 3 options and any opinions would be welcomed. I have thick skin - you can be real.

A) Keep it as is.

B) Take away Game Recap - add a bit more to Player Analysis

C) Instead of a Game Recap - write the 3 most influential / turning points of the game. This mayget dicey and cause unnecessary disagreements / fights - but maybe could add more discussion.

I am all ears, thanks.
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Option C sounds great  
mfsd : 11/28/2022 1:40 pm : link
regardless, your reviews and analysis are much appreciated!!
B  
DavidinBMNY : 11/28/2022 1:41 pm : link
But title the piece accordingly. The name is a bit ambiguous.
B  
DefenseWins : 11/28/2022 1:41 pm : link
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CoughlinHandsonHips : 11/28/2022 1:42 pm : link
B for me
B or C  
compton : 11/28/2022 1:42 pm : link
You can't go wrong with either.
Sy  
Archer : 11/28/2022 1:42 pm : link
I think that most of the people on BBI have watched the game and have come to their own opinions about the game.

However, your insight into, who played well, who was disappointing, and how their collective play affected the game is enlightening.

B  
BillKo : 11/28/2022 1:42 pm : link
as in BillKo.
B or C for me!  
Pete from Woodstock : 11/28/2022 1:43 pm : link
I like your scouting and player analysis! Thank you for taking the time to do this for all us Giant fans Sy!
B  
GiantNatty : 11/28/2022 1:43 pm : link
and also very happy to proofread for you if you'd like. this offer stands for your positional analyses as well
B  
armstead98 : 11/28/2022 1:44 pm : link
Focus on what you’re good at and where you add value. Your write ups are good but we’ve seen the game and want your unique analysis on the players. I’d cut the recap and put all your effort into analysis.
B  
Straw Hat : 11/28/2022 1:44 pm : link
Would be great!
I don’t read the recaps anymore - some kind of deeper player analysis  
mattlawson : 11/28/2022 1:44 pm : link
And what I do these days is walk the dog a few miles and listen to the various podcasts that go over the games. My favorites are BBKL, talkin giants, blue rush. What intrigues me usually are the deeper dives that go into matchups - the best recent example was Bobby skinner on the Lions run game “what they do well is what we’ve had trouble all year defending” and then why that was the case. That kind of insightful analysis is what I enjoy most. BBKL from time to time will tell you about some things they notice from behind the scenes, and blue rush is fun en use its former players telling you how they see it. I do susbscribe to many others but I don’t find them as enjoyable as these 3.

Maybe consider a podcast - ha!
One thing to consider  
Sy'56 : 11/28/2022 1:46 pm : link
This is Eric's site - And it. may provide value for him to have recaps of games in some regard to look back on years from now.
More  
Des51 : 11/28/2022 1:46 pm : link
B and a little bit more C
put me in the skip the recaps camp  
Heisenberg : 11/28/2022 1:46 pm : link
Eric does recaps and I read that one usually. So I skip yours and go to the player analysis. I'd rather hear your editorial opinions on game-planning or things you noticed that the coordinators did or didn't try to do.
B  
ZogZerg : 11/28/2022 1:47 pm : link
And I do the same thing - skip the game recap.

Thanks for asking.
B  
simgiant : 11/28/2022 1:47 pm : link
nothing to do with your writing i just know how the game went cause i watched it...
recap  
Hilary : 11/28/2022 1:49 pm : link
I look forward to your game analysis and draft report.

I do not read the recap. I watched the game and recap and highlights are available on many sites.

I very much enjoy the analysis of how each of the units and the players mentioned performed.
I’d prefer C  
Metnut : 11/28/2022 1:49 pm : link
I usually only skim the recap and go right to the player stuff.
I'll go with B  
k2tampa : 11/28/2022 1:49 pm : link
Absolutely no reason for a game recap. If there is anyone on this site who doesn't know what happened in the game by the time your write your piece, they are living under a rock. It is wasted time and effort to have you tell people what they already know. And if they don't know, they can go to NFL.com and read the play by play.
B  
TDMaker85 : 11/28/2022 1:49 pm : link
And it's not close. Your uniqueness in providing player analysis is the draw. Thank you for your great work!
I love C but B is fine too  
j_rud : 11/28/2022 1:50 pm : link
Want to be clear tho, I think your writing is fine I don't really read anyones game reviews. Theyre just not something I'm interested in. Love the idea of turning points, liked that show when it was on.
I prefer option B  
46and2Blue : 11/28/2022 1:51 pm : link
The recaps are nice, but I would rather mor in-depth analysis of what I players did effect (or not) the outcome of the game. I also like the analysist of where the team is what it needs to improve at the bottom. Being just a fan, it's help me to not overreact when I hear professionals take on players and coaching.
I like A  
Matt M. : 11/28/2022 1:52 pm : link
I enjoy the full write up. Option C would be my second choice.
I'd go with C  
Hades07 : 11/28/2022 1:52 pm : link
In a few key plays, what happened good or bad and how it effected.

The player analysis is the key part for me though as I can't watch the game multiple times to key on players anymore.

I watched the game, so the game recap is nice, but unnecessary. I'd prefer more player and specific play analysis.
Option B  
cjac : 11/28/2022 1:53 pm : link
I'd be ok with option C as well

for color i usually go right to the player evaluations as well.
A  
mpinmaine : 11/28/2022 1:53 pm : link
dont fix what isnt broken
C  
Bob from Massachusetts : 11/28/2022 1:54 pm : link
I think you write pretty well, so no fears there. I agree most people watch the game, so the recap helps summarize but isn't essential.

So I favor a more abbreviated game recap if it will save time, and DEFINTELY would like more of you insights as a scout, about everything that is a good use of your time.

For the recap maybe instead of a drive-by-drive summary, an emphasis on key parts of the game or even better, anything you notice about an in-game change in strategy like a change in defensive fronts or increased use of the tight end for helping out on pass-blocking, or whatever, would be incredibly useful in that this is not a review of an individual performance but more of a birds-eye view of coaching strategy and in-game adjustments. This is something as a scout you will notice but those of us who are just regular viewers (or in any case those who don't see the all-22) would not be aware of.
B  
Giantgator : 11/28/2022 1:55 pm : link
The game is still fresh enough in my mind. I look forward to your player analyses more than any other post in season (well, that and Sights and Sounds!).
B and C  
noro9 : 11/28/2022 1:58 pm : link
Or just B. We've all watched the game.
Thanks so much for doing this!
B  
BocaGene : 11/28/2022 1:58 pm : link
I don't read the recap as I watch every game.

Really appreciate your analysis re: individual players and/or player groups.

I love the reviews as is  
djm : 11/28/2022 1:59 pm : link
but if you went with B) Take away Game Recap - add a bit more to Player Analysis--it wouldn't be a bad thing. I probably wouldn't change a thing and in a perfect world just add more to player analysis without losing the recap, but that's me being greedy...
I vote for B (the more player anaylses the better)  
Optimus-NY : 11/28/2022 1:59 pm : link
At the end of the day though Sy, you don't owe anyone here a thing. Do what's best for you and what consumes the least amount of time. Thank you as always for doing what you do. It's MUCH appreciated. Take care and best wishes :-)
B or C for me Sy.  
Bold Ruler : Mod : 11/28/2022 1:59 pm : link
I watch the games pretty closely and remember most of the action. I look to you for your expertise in breaking down the players, the plays, the hows and whys.

Thanks!
B  
JonnyR : 11/28/2022 2:00 pm : link
Please, and thank you!
A+  
Piranah In NC : 11/28/2022 2:00 pm : link
From Me Bro. Hope The Mara's hire You. Giants need better 3rd round picks to Pan out other than Ezudu (sp) .
B would be fine...  
aka dbrny : 11/28/2022 2:00 pm : link
and thank you for all you do.

The only thing I usually do with the game recap is look for your take on a play or two (like the failed 4th and 1 from the Dallas game). Feels like those pivotal plays are usually picked up in your player analysis.

I love your work ... and really appreciate your willingness to share!
I vote for  
Andrew in Austin : 11/28/2022 2:01 pm : link
C & B (in that order).
What about B and C  
compton : 11/28/2022 2:01 pm : link
The best of both worlds.
I should have noted  
Sy'56 : 11/28/2022 2:02 pm : link
Option C....includes B. Player analysis isn't going anywhere
I would be fine with B since I am able to watch the game  
UberAlias : 11/28/2022 2:03 pm : link
If that is easier for you, as far as my humble opinion goes, I would be fully supportive.
RE: I should have noted  
Beezer : 11/28/2022 2:03 pm : link
In comment 15925322 Sy'56 said:
Quote:
Option C....includes B. Player analysis isn't going anywhere


I'm in.
Skip Game Recap  
Bavaro_the_Mafioso : 11/28/2022 2:03 pm : link
You can find this all over the internet e.g. social media, ESPN, Redzone, NFL Network etc.

I love and appreciate all your work but look for player analysis.
Love to read your reviews...  
Dan in the Springs : 11/28/2022 2:04 pm : link
and thanks for your work. I have enjoyed the recaps for many, many years, going back way before your time in this role.

Personally I agree that on the morning after I tend to skip the game narrative and jump to the position grouping evaluations, but I disagree that the recap has no value. That's because when I look back 5 years later, or even a year later, the narrative is very helpful as a reminder for what we thought we saw at the time.

I hope you can continue to do this part of the review, or work it out with Eric so that someone continues that element of the review and combines it with your contribution on the evaluation side.

Thanks again for your work!
B  
dairborn : 11/28/2022 2:06 pm : link
But thank you!
Love the writeups - I'd vote for C  
Remdad : 11/28/2022 2:07 pm : link
I'd favor a brief general summary and then a quick description of pivotal plays, good or bad. Some of us look back at your game summaries from time to time, and it can help to have a trigger apart from the score (ie that was the game where they didn't convert the 4th down pass to Barkley)

Apart from that, the player analyses are the most valuable feature, for an unbiased opinion that can make us think and generate discussion.

Appreciate all the hard work.
B or C  
ChubbyColeMedina : 11/28/2022 2:07 pm : link
Love your atricles Sy, but I have to admit I skip the recap and go right to teh player evals.
Vote for C  
BillT : 11/28/2022 2:09 pm : link
Key points with maybe a overview. Works for me. Thanks for everything no matter what you chose.
Definitely....  
bw in dc : 11/28/2022 2:10 pm : link
C
B or C  
Rudy5757 : 11/28/2022 2:10 pm : link
We can get the recaps anywhere, its the indepth player analysis we all seem to want. Verifywhat we saw against what you saw. Whatever you choose Ill still read it either way. I do look forward to the player writeups though.
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