Berhalter was very lucky. His decision to play defensively for pretty much the entire second half was stupid. A second goal would have made the fatigue we had at the end irrelevant. But we barely even tried, except on counterattacks.
Do all moments of inaction/play stoppage (injuries, throw-ins, when the goalie is holding the ball, set ups for free kicks, penalty kicks) - does all this get calculated and added into stoppage time at the end?
Didn't fall for Iran's bullshit. This was practically a home game for Iran. Berhalter needs a good smack or three after this game. We've got Holland in four days on Saturday (10 am EST start).
Like by all accounts this game should have been 2-0 before the subs but we weren’t finishing our chances and Iran was looking dangerous with space to work. Of course we took a defensive posture there.
I’ve been critical as hell of him, but this is a young team that’s advancing that’s was unfortunate it didn’t win games 1 and 2. You can def make the argument we outplayed our opponents three times. What more do you want?
Didn't fall for Iran's bullshit. This was practically a home game for Iran. Berhalter needs a good smack or three after this game. We've got Holland in four days on Saturday (10 am EST start).
Home game - no not really except for closeness. UAE and Gulf States do not like Iran, almost terrified of Iran.
It’s not Gregg’s fault we don’t have a reliable goal scorers that can
They played their hearts out. Second half wasn't pretty but sometimes you just need to dig in to get the result. They were on the attack and fluid when they needed to be, and defended well as a unit to close it out.
Technically, we've seen in the first halves of all three games this group has collective talent that the national team has never had. Such a positive step to get out of the group and get that experience.
Referee called a great game too. Would have been easy to get overwhelmed by the Iran gamesmanship
Do all moments of inaction/play stoppage (injuries, throw-ins, when the goalie is holding the ball, set ups for free kicks, penalty kicks) - does all this get calculated and added into stoppage time at the end?
They played their hearts out. Second half wasn't pretty but sometimes you just need to dig in to get the result. They were on the attack and fluid when they needed to be, and defended well as a unit to close it out.
Technically, we've seen in the first halves of all three games this group has collective talent that the national team has never had. Such a positive step to get out of the group and get that experience.
Referee called a great game too. Would have been easy to get overwhelmed by the Iran gamesmanship
Well done, USA!
We did a great draw in the referee. Well seasoned from a great league. Let everyone play and did not get fooled by the dives. Surprised Iran was not a bit more chippy in the 2nd half.
Didn't fall for Iran's bullshit. This was practically a home game for Iran. Berhalter needs a good smack or three after this game. We've got Holland in four days on Saturday (10 am EST start).
Home game - no not really except for closeness. UAE and Gulf States do not like Iran, almost terrified of Iran.
You don't know what you're talking about. Dubai is full of Iranians. I lived and worked in the Gulf for many years and know. Bought my furniture from them. The politics gets thrown out the door. Lots of people in the Gulf are of Iranian descent as well (the Al Blooshis for instance).
I know Iran was obviously going to press in the second half but the US didn't seem to keep possession nearly as well in the second half as in the first. Obviously not having Pulisic affects that.
Berhalter was very lucky. His decision to play defensively for pretty much the entire second half was stupid. A second goal would have made the fatigue we had at the end irrelevant. But we barely even tried, except on counterattacks.
I agree, why change what worked in the first half, even without Pulisic?
Berhalter was very lucky. His decision to play defensively for pretty much the entire second half was stupid. A second goal would have made the fatigue we had at the end irrelevant. But we barely even tried, except on counterattacks.
Way over stated. You do realize that the last 25 minutes or so including stoppage time, McKennie was out, Pulisic out the entire half, Musah was struggling with poor decisions in his fatigue, so a big chunk of your attacking skills is gone. I thought his move to go 5 in the back was timely.
Moore and Wright are awful, so you're going to go balls to the wall on their backs?
last 10 minutes reminded me of watching the Giants
This was a little similar to Wales: we went balls to the wall 1H, then lost three key players up front, you can't play the same style and expect to execute as you did 1H
I know Iran was obviously going to press in the second half but the US didn't seem to keep possession nearly as well in the second half as in the first. Obviously not having Pulisic affects that.
Berhalter was very lucky. His decision to play defensively for pretty much the entire second half was stupid. A second goal would have made the fatigue we had at the end irrelevant. But we barely even tried, except on counterattacks.
I thought the possible red card would have been for a clear non-play on the ball to someone's shins I saw in the stoppage time.
No one seems to like Berhalter's strategy, but once Pulisic and Dest are out, everyone else is too timid with the ball up near and in the box. Maybe Berhalter, knowing his players, tossed a coin in his head and decided they didn't have enough chance to score again but could conceivably defend ... even knowing there would be a lot of injury time. The best chance they had late in stoppage time was just given away (Wright?). It was stressful to watch, and one really good opportunity by Iran -- the header -- was simply missed, but that approach did get the result.
Like by all accounts this game should have been 2-0 before the subs but we weren’t finishing our chances and Iran was looking dangerous with space to work. Of course we took a defensive posture there.
I’ve been critical as hell of him, but this is a young team that’s advancing that’s was unfortunate it didn’t win games 1 and 2. You can def make the argument we outplayed our opponents three times. What more do you want?
Biggest issue today was again his sub selection. If he’s trying to protect a lead why sub on Wright for Sargent? With exception to the first half, we have had troubles linking up with our striker. Wright does not have the ability to drop deep and link up with our mids like Sargent. Bring on an additional midfielder to clog the midfield, retain more possession and take some pressure off our defense. The Shaq Moore sub experience has got to be over. Two poor performances. Shocked that he is the preferred option over Joe Scally.
RE: Still waiting to see the replay of the 2nd goal
Do all moments of inaction/play stoppage (injuries, throw-ins, when the goalie is holding the ball, set ups for free kicks, penalty kicks) - does all this get calculated and added into stoppage time at the end?
See below:
Stoppage Time in Soccer Explained - ( New Window )
This answers some of it for me. What was confusing to me was that the announcers mentioned several times about the US players "milking the clock" with throw-ins, etc. If the time is going to be tacked on to stoppage time, is there any point?
Like by all accounts this game should have been 2-0 before the subs but we weren’t finishing our chances and Iran was looking dangerous with space to work. Of course we took a defensive posture there.
I’ve been critical as hell of him, but this is a young team that’s advancing that’s was unfortunate it didn’t win games 1 and 2. You can def make the argument we outplayed our opponents three times. What more do you want?
Biggest issue today was again his sub selection. If he’s trying to protect a lead why sub on Wright for Sargent? With exception to the first half, we have had troubles linking up with our striker. Wright does not have the ability to drop deep and link up with our mids like Sargent. Bring on an additional midfielder to clog the midfield, retain more possession and take some pressure off our defense. The Shaq Moore sub experience has got to be over. Two poor performances. Shocked that he is the preferred option over Joe Scally.
They played their hearts out. Second half wasn't pretty but sometimes you just need to dig in to get the result. They were on the attack and fluid when they needed to be, and defended well as a unit to close it out.
Technically, we've seen in the first halves of all three games this group has collective talent that the national team has never had. Such a positive step to get out of the group and get that experience.
Referee called a great game too. Would have been easy to get overwhelmed by the Iran gamesmanship
Well done, USA!
We did a great draw in the referee. Well seasoned from a great league. Let everyone play and did not get fooled by the dives. Surprised Iran was not a bit more chippy in the 2nd half.
Yep I remember him from the 2021 Champions League Final. Called a perfect match. He does love piling on the extra time though!
going to a back 5 was the right call. Iran still ended up with a couple decent chances, but once Dest and Pulisic were out, we almost had to play defensively and force Iran to make low percentage 25 yard passes into the box.
Ideally, you'd like to have continued to pressure Iran, but had we conceded on a counter, that would have been unacceptable.
Berhalter can be questioned about a lot of things in his tenure here, but this isn't one.
Yeah he can't move.
For the normies I guess.
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many times is the announcer going to say that an Iran goal knocks us out of the World Cup? He does it every 30 seconds.
For the normies I guess.
Casuals I meant.
/?? what should be?
Agreed. I despised that.
Berhalter was very lucky. His decision to play defensively for pretty much the entire second half was stupid. A second goal would have made the fatigue we had at the end irrelevant. But we barely even tried, except on counterattacks.
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should be a red card.
/?? what should be?
When the Iranian player pulled so blatantly on an American's jersey to prevent a breakaway.
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should be a red card.
/?? what should be?
When the Iranian player pulled so blatantly on an American's jersey to prevent a breakaway.
Ah yes thought you meant the play in the box
I’ve been critical as hell of him, but this is a young team that’s advancing that’s was unfortunate it didn’t win games 1 and 2. You can def make the argument we outplayed our opponents three times. What more do you want?
Home game - no not really except for closeness. UAE and Gulf States do not like Iran, almost terrified of Iran.
On the bright side, they left a clean sheet on the pitch by holding them at nil!
(I’m getting the lingo down)
It's a bummer they couldn't score vs England. Would've gotten a much better draw.
Technically, we've seen in the first halves of all three games this group has collective talent that the national team has never had. Such a positive step to get out of the group and get that experience.
Referee called a great game too. Would have been easy to get overwhelmed by the Iran gamesmanship
Well done, USA!
See below:
Stoppage Time in Soccer Explained - ( New Window )
Technically, we've seen in the first halves of all three games this group has collective talent that the national team has never had. Such a positive step to get out of the group and get that experience.
Referee called a great game too. Would have been easy to get overwhelmed by the Iran gamesmanship
Well done, USA!
We did a great draw in the referee. Well seasoned from a great league. Let everyone play and did not get fooled by the dives. Surprised Iran was not a bit more chippy in the 2nd half.
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Didn't fall for Iran's bullshit. This was practically a home game for Iran. Berhalter needs a good smack or three after this game. We've got Holland in four days on Saturday (10 am EST start).
Home game - no not really except for closeness. UAE and Gulf States do not like Iran, almost terrified of Iran.
You don't know what you're talking about. Dubai is full of Iranians. I lived and worked in the Gulf for many years and know. Bought my furniture from them. The politics gets thrown out the door. Lots of people in the Gulf are of Iranian descent as well (the Al Blooshis for instance).
Berhalter was very lucky. His decision to play defensively for pretty much the entire second half was stupid. A second goal would have made the fatigue we had at the end irrelevant. But we barely even tried, except on counterattacks.
I agree, why change what worked in the first half, even without Pulisic?
Way over stated. You do realize that the last 25 minutes or so including stoppage time, McKennie was out, Pulisic out the entire half, Musah was struggling with poor decisions in his fatigue, so a big chunk of your attacking skills is gone. I thought his move to go 5 in the back was timely.
Moore and Wright are awful, so you're going to go balls to the wall on their backs?
This was a little similar to Wales: we went balls to the wall 1H, then lost three key players up front, you can't play the same style and expect to execute as you did 1H
+1 Next phase of their evolution as a team.
Berhalter was very lucky. His decision to play defensively for pretty much the entire second half was stupid. A second goal would have made the fatigue we had at the end irrelevant. But we barely even tried, except on counterattacks.
I thought the possible red card would have been for a clear non-play on the ball to someone's shins I saw in the stoppage time.
No one seems to like Berhalter's strategy, but once Pulisic and Dest are out, everyone else is too timid with the ball up near and in the box. Maybe Berhalter, knowing his players, tossed a coin in his head and decided they didn't have enough chance to score again but could conceivably defend ... even knowing there would be a lot of injury time. The best chance they had late in stoppage time was just given away (Wright?). It was stressful to watch, and one really good opportunity by Iran -- the header -- was simply missed, but that approach did get the result.
I’ve been critical as hell of him, but this is a young team that’s advancing that’s was unfortunate it didn’t win games 1 and 2. You can def make the argument we outplayed our opponents three times. What more do you want?
Biggest issue today was again his sub selection. If he’s trying to protect a lead why sub on Wright for Sargent? With exception to the first half, we have had troubles linking up with our striker. Wright does not have the ability to drop deep and link up with our mids like Sargent. Bring on an additional midfielder to clog the midfield, retain more possession and take some pressure off our defense. The Shaq Moore sub experience has got to be over. Two poor performances. Shocked that he is the preferred option over Joe Scally.
Weah's? It was a smidge and I mean a smidge offside...
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Do all moments of inaction/play stoppage (injuries, throw-ins, when the goalie is holding the ball, set ups for free kicks, penalty kicks) - does all this get calculated and added into stoppage time at the end?
See below:
Stoppage Time in Soccer Explained - ( New Window )
This answers some of it for me. What was confusing to me was that the announcers mentioned several times about the US players "milking the clock" with throw-ins, etc. If the time is going to be tacked on to stoppage time, is there any point?
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Like by all accounts this game should have been 2-0 before the subs but we weren’t finishing our chances and Iran was looking dangerous with space to work. Of course we took a defensive posture there.
I’ve been critical as hell of him, but this is a young team that’s advancing that’s was unfortunate it didn’t win games 1 and 2. You can def make the argument we outplayed our opponents three times. What more do you want?
Biggest issue today was again his sub selection. If he’s trying to protect a lead why sub on Wright for Sargent? With exception to the first half, we have had troubles linking up with our striker. Wright does not have the ability to drop deep and link up with our mids like Sargent. Bring on an additional midfielder to clog the midfield, retain more possession and take some pressure off our defense. The Shaq Moore sub experience has got to be over. Two poor performances. Shocked that he is the preferred option over Joe Scally.
Wasn't Sargent injured just before that?
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They played their hearts out. Second half wasn't pretty but sometimes you just need to dig in to get the result. They were on the attack and fluid when they needed to be, and defended well as a unit to close it out.
Technically, we've seen in the first halves of all three games this group has collective talent that the national team has never had. Such a positive step to get out of the group and get that experience.
Referee called a great game too. Would have been easy to get overwhelmed by the Iran gamesmanship
Well done, USA!
We did a great draw in the referee. Well seasoned from a great league. Let everyone play and did not get fooled by the dives. Surprised Iran was not a bit more chippy in the 2nd half.
Yep I remember him from the 2021 Champions League Final. Called a perfect match. He does love piling on the extra time though!
Ideally, you'd like to have continued to pressure Iran, but had we conceded on a counter, that would have been unacceptable.
Berhalter can be questioned about a lot of things in his tenure here, but this isn't one.
Their midfield is young and legit and getting better every year. The team is not as far off anymore as one might think.
Yes, this cost us the decision against Wale and almost cost us advancing today. Not a fan of this guy.