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Earl the goat : 11/29/2022 5:45 pm
Karl Anthony Townes out with a possible calf or Achilles injury

Rumor has it him and edwards not getting along

If Rudy starts playing well without KAT in lineup and TWolves start winning then
Leon should make them an offer

Randle
Fournier
Some unprotected firsts that TWolves need back from Goebert trade
For KAT

Then Leon shoukd move Mitch and RJ for I don’t know what


Knicks need this win tonight
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RJ will be fine  
AG5686 : 11/29/2022 8:04 pm : link
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I have noticed with stewart  
nygiants16 : 11/29/2022 8:23 pm : link
He likes to run around like the tazmanian devil and knock people over but as soon as someone gets physical with him he freaks out
Lol, no flagrant?  
CooperDash : 11/29/2022 8:24 pm : link
For a full out shove? I’ve seen the Knicks get flagrants for far less.
RE: RJ will be fine  
CooperDash : 11/29/2022 8:25 pm : link
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AG5686 : 11/29/2022 8:27 pm : link
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Grimes being Grimes.  
bceagle05 : 11/29/2022 8:34 pm : link
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RE: RE: RJ will be fine  
AG5686 : 11/29/2022 8:36 pm : link
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16 pts on 40% shooting..4 reb 3 assist no TOs...
Alec Burks  
AG5686 : 11/29/2022 8:40 pm : link
Must have money on the Knicks tonight
DET is really bad  
adamg : 11/29/2022 8:43 pm : link
We could have it worse in some ways...
Starters shouldnt play a minute in the 4th  
nygiants16 : 11/29/2022 8:43 pm : link
and halfway through the bench should be emptied
RE: DET is really bad  
bceagle05 : 11/29/2022 8:44 pm : link
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We could have it worse in some ways...

Let’s see how lottery night goes first.
RE: RE: RE: RJ will be fine  
adamg : 11/29/2022 8:48 pm : link
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16 pts on 40% shooting..4 reb 3 assist no TOs...


He has a lot more potential than that. That's the point. If he maxes out his potential, he's an all star and we're a lot closer to contention.
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nygiants16 : 11/29/2022 8:50 pm : link
Brunson 6 for 8 16 points and 5 assists

Grimes 6 for 7 16 points 6 boards and 2 assists

Randle 14 for 24 36 7 and 5

Pretty damn effecient
If RJ became a 55% TS guy  
adamg : 11/29/2022 8:53 pm : link
he's easily an all star and a huge building block.
RE: If RJ became a 55% TS guy  
AG5686 : 11/29/2022 8:59 pm : link
In comment 15926857 adamg said:
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he's easily an all star and a huge building block.

I agree...and he is capable of it
But he needs to correct some bad habits
Stop taking 3s...develop a mid range game
Not to nitpick  
bceagle05 : 11/29/2022 9:03 pm : link
but does DRose need to be in with six minutes left in a 30-point game?
RE: RE: If RJ became a 55% TS guy  
adamg : 11/29/2022 9:05 pm : link
In comment 15926858 AG5686 said:
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he's easily an all star and a huge building block.


I agree...and he is capable of it
But he needs to correct some bad habits
Stop taking 3s...develop a mid range game


He could be an efficient three point shooter. He shouldn't abandon the shot.
RE: RE: RE: If RJ became a 55% TS guy  
AG5686 : 11/29/2022 9:07 pm : link
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he's easily an all star and a huge building block.


I agree...and he is capable of it
But he needs to correct some bad habits
Stop taking 3s...develop a mid range game



He could be an efficient three point shooter. He shouldn't abandon the shot.

Maybe...but he has really struggled with it and it seems to be all he wants to do..
Coaches need to guide him on how to improve in the half court
Nice game by Randle, Brunson and Grimes.  
Ira : 11/29/2022 9:20 pm : link
Sometimes I think that if Randle were to score 50 with 25 rebounds some fans would still find something to criticize.
RE: Nice game by Randle, Brunson and Grimes.  
AG5686 : 11/29/2022 9:25 pm : link
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Sometimes I think that if Randle were to score 50 with 25 rebounds some fans would still find something to criticize.

Haha yup
He is our best player...
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adamg : 11/29/2022 9:28 pm : link
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he's easily an all star and a huge building block.


I agree...and he is capable of it
But he needs to correct some bad habits
Stop taking 3s...develop a mid range game



He could be an efficient three point shooter. He shouldn't abandon the shot.


Maybe...but he has really struggled with it and it seems to be all he wants to do..
Coaches need to guide him on how to improve in the half court


Look at his numbers tonight and tell me what you just did.
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AG5686 : 11/29/2022 9:30 pm : link
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he's easily an all star and a huge building block.


I agree...and he is capable of it
But he needs to correct some bad habits
Stop taking 3s...develop a mid range game



He could be an efficient three point shooter. He shouldn't abandon the shot.


Maybe...but he has really struggled with it and it seems to be all he wants to do..
Coaches need to guide him on how to improve in the half court



Look at his numbers tonight and tell me what you just did.

Huh??
RE: RE: Nice game by Randle, Brunson and Grimes.  
CooperDash : 11/29/2022 9:46 pm : link
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Sometimes I think that if Randle were to score 50 with 25 rebounds some fans would still find something to criticize.


Haha yup
He is our best player...


When he wants to be…and that’s always been the issue with Randle.
Randle seems to play better  
Del Shofner : 11/29/2022 10:01 pm : link
on the road.
Our old friend KP  
bceagle05 : 11/29/2022 10:18 pm : link
is having a nice year in Washington - 21ppg/8rb with some solid defense. Let’s see if he stays healthy, of course.
Grimes was +37 in 28 minutes -  
Del Shofner : 11/29/2022 10:40 pm : link
I know the Pistons suck but you don't see that every day.
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adamg : 11/29/2022 11:17 pm : link
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Look at his numbers tonight and tell me what you just did.


Huh??


RJ was more efficient from 3 than 2 tonight.
And in his career.  
adamg : 11/29/2022 11:19 pm : link
But yeah, he should lose that shot.
AdamG  
AG5686 : 11/30/2022 2:39 am : link
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But yeah, he should lose that shot.

RJ is shooting 27% from 3 this year...
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adamg : 11/30/2022 3:21 am : link
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But yeah, he should lose that shot.


RJ is shooting 27% from 3 this year...


You're a moron. And I'm done responding to your posts. Have a good life jackass.
Maybe its time we stop killing Randle?  
nygiants16 : 11/30/2022 7:49 am : link
He is averaging 21 9 and 3 on 47% shooting, EFG 55% and his 3pt % his creeping back up and he is doing this on only 15 shots per game.

I know his defense is suspect at times but his offensive game is pretty damn good this year. He has embraced playing next to Brunson, his turnovers are down, he is not holding the ball as much.

He is not the reason this team are 10-11..
RE: Maybe its time we stop killing Randle?  
BigBlueShock : 11/30/2022 9:05 am : link
In comment 15926953 nygiants16 said:
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He is averaging 21 9 and 3 on 47% shooting, EFG 55% and his 3pt % his creeping back up and he is doing this on only 15 shots per game.

I know his defense is suspect at times but his offensive game is pretty damn good this year. He has embraced playing next to Brunson, his turnovers are down, he is not holding the ball as much.

He is not the reason this team are 10-11..

BBI is so bipolar, lol. Now it’s time to stop killing Randle. Until the next game he looks completely lost. Which could be tonight. Then we kill him again!

This isn’t directed at you nygiants16, just in general. Moods and opinions flip flop so much around here based on each individual game it makes heads spin
RE: Maybe its time we stop killing Randle?  
Mike in NJ : 11/30/2022 9:16 am : link
In comment 15926953 nygiants16 said:
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He is averaging 21 9 and 3 on 47% shooting, EFG 55% and his 3pt % his creeping back up and he is doing this on only 15 shots per game.

I know his defense is suspect at times but his offensive game is pretty damn good this year. He has embraced playing next to Brunson, his turnovers are down, he is not holding the ball as much.

He is not the reason this team are 10-11..


Randle's offense has been good this year for sure, but his effort on defense is pathetic. There are several examples each games of plays where he doesn't even pretend to care to close out on a guy at 3 or just wanders around aimlessly in the paint not trying to actually guard anybody.

I can understand a couple of mistakes here and there, but he looks to be checked out on D.
RE: Maybe its time we stop killing Randle?  
steve in ky : 11/30/2022 9:32 am : link
In comment 15926953 nygiants16 said:
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He is averaging 21 9 and 3 on 47% shooting, EFG 55% and his 3pt % his creeping back up and he is doing this on only 15 shots per game.

I know his defense is suspect at times but his offensive game is pretty damn good this year. He has embraced playing next to Brunson, his turnovers are down, he is not holding the ball as much.

He is not the reason this team are 10-11..


Haha, I’m not sure using “we” is the most accurate, there have been many of us that never bashed him like you and a handful of others continually have in almost every Knick thread. Glad to see you coming around, at least for this week anyway:)
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nygiants16 : 11/30/2022 9:44 am : link
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He is averaging 21 9 and 3 on 47% shooting, EFG 55% and his 3pt % his creeping back up and he is doing this on only 15 shots per game.

I know his defense is suspect at times but his offensive game is pretty damn good this year. He has embraced playing next to Brunson, his turnovers are down, he is not holding the ball as much.

He is not the reason this team are 10-11..



Haha, I’m not sure using “we” is the most accurate, there have been many of us that never bashed him like you and a handful of others continually have in almost every Knick thread. Glad to see you coming around, at least for this week anyway:)


Its his defense we usually kill
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steve in ky : 11/30/2022 9:49 am : link
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He is averaging 21 9 and 3 on 47% shooting, EFG 55% and his 3pt % his creeping back up and he is doing this on only 15 shots per game.

I know his defense is suspect at times but his offensive game is pretty damn good this year. He has embraced playing next to Brunson, his turnovers are down, he is not holding the ball as much.

He is not the reason this team are 10-11..



Haha, I’m not sure using “we” is the most accurate, there have been many of us that never bashed him like you and a handful of others continually have in almost every Knick thread. Glad to see you coming around, at least for this week anyway:)



Its his defense we usually kill


Oh come on, it’s been a lot more than his D some of you complain about. And while too agree his defense can improve its still better than Obi’s. And I really like Obi but he’s lost on D.
and a big part of me wanting Randle gone  
nygiants16 : 11/30/2022 9:50 am : link
is thinking Obi deserves more minutes that Thibs refuses to give with Randle here..

Most times i want Randle and Obi to play together
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nygiants16 : 11/30/2022 9:52 am : link
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He is averaging 21 9 and 3 on 47% shooting, EFG 55% and his 3pt % his creeping back up and he is doing this on only 15 shots per game.

I know his defense is suspect at times but his offensive game is pretty damn good this year. He has embraced playing next to Brunson, his turnovers are down, he is not holding the ball as much.

He is not the reason this team are 10-11..



Haha, I’m not sure using “we” is the most accurate, there have been many of us that never bashed him like you and a handful of others continually have in almost every Knick thread. Glad to see you coming around, at least for this week anyway:)



Its his defense we usually kill



Oh come on, it’s been a lot more than his D some of you complain about. And while too agree his defense can improve its still better than Obi’s. And I really like Obi but he’s lost on D.


I think the difference between Randle and Obis defense, is that Obi looks like he is at least trying, Randle there are times where he doesnt move from his spot and doesnt rotate..

Obi at least looks like he is trying at times..
IMO  
steve in ky : 11/30/2022 9:56 am : link
Randle mostly does that when he’s in foul trouble, and for all we know he’s instructed to not take easy fouls when I’m foul trouble and he’s just bad at masking it so it appears lazy. But the bottom line is regardless of appearance he’s still better on D than Obi.
I mean...  
Jan in DC : 11/30/2022 10:28 am : link
that's the nature of being fans. We have over-reactions to every game. It just happens. It's just amplified because it's NY and the Knicks are beloved even though they haven't been good in a while.

I think Randle's been playing well lately. I hope he keeps it up.

I just want the team to start playing smarter basketball. Coaching staff too. So when I see something that seems obvious for a casual fan watching, it frustrates me. Thibs weird rotation patterns, taking shots 3 seconds into the shot clock, running into the other team expecting a foul instead of being a willing passer on drives, bad close outs. Watching the games, patterns emerge and we vent online. Just how it goes.
RE: RE: Maybe its time we stop killing Randle?  
djm : 11/30/2022 11:09 am : link
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He is averaging 21 9 and 3 on 47% shooting, EFG 55% and his 3pt % his creeping back up and he is doing this on only 15 shots per game.

I know his defense is suspect at times but his offensive game is pretty damn good this year. He has embraced playing next to Brunson, his turnovers are down, he is not holding the ball as much.

He is not the reason this team are 10-11..


BBI is so bipolar, lol. Now it’s time to stop killing Randle. Until the next game he looks completely lost. Which could be tonight. Then we kill him again!

This isn’t directed at you nygiants16, just in general. Moods and opinions flip flop so much around here based on each individual game it makes heads spin


It was never really time to kill Randle. Even last year. While it's a problem if Randle is the team's best player (or Brunson) --Randle isn't THE problem. Fucking broken record, but the Knicks need to surround Randle with better players. Brunson and Grimes are a start. If Randle was the 3rd best player here and we had a guy super star wing/2G--we'd be just fine.
Randle is polarizing.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 11/30/2022 11:17 am : link
When he plays well he is easy to like.

When he's mentally checked out, he is not fun to watch and looks like an atrocious teammate to be around.
the twitter film nerds  
Enzo : 11/30/2022 11:21 am : link
that cover the Knicks have documented Randle's penchant for low effort/lazy play time and time again. We're not making it up, lol. I'll never understand why Thibs has not held him accountable for that crap, but I've accepted that it's not going to happen. But, even if he cleaned up that part of his game, he's still not a high IQ player. Probably never will be.
Anyway, has anyone noticed how the spurs have lost  
Ten Ton Hammer : 11/30/2022 11:29 am : link
8 in a row after trading away their young all star?

Tanking isn't immoral to Greg Poppovich. They'll probably get Wembanyama.
Jazz have come back to earth too  
bceagle05 : 11/30/2022 11:58 am : link
after losing to us - now they're 12-11 and in the eighth spot.
Thought this was good info  
Ten Ton Hammer : 11/30/2022 12:18 pm : link
From Alan Hahn

when in doubt...  
Enzo : 11/30/2022 12:46 pm : link
blame RJ.
RE: Thought this was good info  
djm : 11/30/2022 1:31 pm : link
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Interesting.

We need a star center --Mitch is ok...everyone else is below OK and Mitch can't play every game with major minutes. Even if he could he's limited. Sims might have potential but he's just a backup young center for now. The other guy is weird. HArt...weird. Which is a nice way to say bad or a poor fit.
and that's an indictment on Randle too  
djm : 11/30/2022 1:33 pm : link
someone has to box out and control the boards. It should be Randle and Mitch when they are out there. Someone aint doing his job.

Annoying. The D has been abysmal.
Last year Randle hit the boards  
xman : 11/30/2022 3:16 pm : link
not so much this year.
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