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Wednesday, November 30, 2022
Approx. 11:55 a.m. — Offensive Coordinator Mike Kafka Available
Approx. 12:05 p.m. — Defensive Coordinator Wink Martindale Available
Approx. 12:15 p.m. — Special Teams Coordinator Thomas McGaughey Available
Practice — 12:45 p.m. – 2:45 p.m.
Approx. 2:55 p.m. — Players Available
Seems like a long time since we've had a guy come back from in-season injury and perform at a high level in first game back.
Because Gates may need to play G
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Gates was the starter before he got hurt and is a far better OC. He is healthy himself now and looks strong. He now played the last game and a half and should be considered the starter the rest of this year and moving forward.
Because Gates may need to play G
One of the lessons of the Reese and Gettleman years is that if you have a person playing at a strength do not move said person to another position and create two weak positions. We have gone down this road many, many times where we take a person who was successful in one position because he has some versatility and place them at their weaker position and we screw up two positions.
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#Giants Kafka - fundamentals and techniques from past two games need to be cleaned up
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#Giants Kafka - tuesday was a good day of practice...neal is a good player, glad to see him work..and guys are rotating at LG in practice
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#Giants Kafka -jones was accurate in his reads in dallas and ran well when the yards were there....teams are playing the DE different to try to take away his runs
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#Giants Kafka - bellinger did a good job at tuesday's practice...he was bouncing around
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#Giants Kafka - GM and coach have a plan for the obj visit....didnt say if he will join them
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#Giants Wink - Wash QB has hot hand and they have a lot of talent...going to be a challenge
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#Giants Wink - misses having jackson's intangibles
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#Giants Wink - thibs played his best game vs dallas....
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#Giants Wink - the plan is always for the defensive front to control the game...missed ojulari "a lot"...daboll will determine his status/snaps
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#Giants Wink - rodarius williams "played well...pleased with him"....had not really played in two years
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#Giants Wink - got to get 11 hats to the ball ...better technique, etc.. run stats not very good...need to get better
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#Giants Wink - usually come out of the gate well on defense....big key is to start fast in 2nd half...despite injuries, still want to dictate...rush only 3 vs heinicke and he will pick you apart
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#Giants Wink - Thibs much further ahead than other rookies...cites his knowledge and preparation
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Brian Daboll still won’t comment on Odell Beckham Jr., who is visiting the team tomorrow.
Gary Brightwell (illness) and Richie James (knee) both are not practicing today, which makes Kalil Pimpleton today’s top KR
McGaughey, asked about Pimpleton, said everyone must stay ready
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RB Gary Brightwell (illness), WR Richie James (knee), OL Shane Lemieux (toe), OL Josh Ezeudu (neck) and CB Adoree’ Jackson (knee) not spotted at practice.
CB Fabian Moreau (oblique) moving well:
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Daboll said Brightwell was back in the building today, so sounds like he should be ready for Sunday. Big opportunity today for P-squad WR/returner Kalil Pimpleton with Brightwell and James sidelined.
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Daboll didn't sound super optimistic about Ben Bredeson, who returned to practice this week after missing four games on IR, being ready for Sunday. With Josh Ezeudu still out with a neck injury, real chance Nick Gates starts at left guard.
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In comment 15927264 Matt M. said:
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Gates was the starter before he got hurt and is a far better OC. He is healthy himself now and looks strong. He now played the last game and a half and should be considered the starter the rest of this year and moving forward.
Because Gates may need to play G
One of the lessons of the Reese and Gettleman years is that if you have a person playing at a strength do not move said person to another position and create two weak positions. We have gone down this road many, many times where we take a person who was successful in one position because he has some versatility and place them at their weaker position and we screw up two positions.
Nevermind that either Ezeudu or Bredeson are not as big of a weak spot at OG as Feliciano is at OC.
Giants, DON'T move Gates, (lets not test fate again), Feliciano can play guard.
https://buffalonews.com/sports/bills/former-bills-guard-jon-feliciano-to-sign-with-giants/article_3dc50afc-a3ff-11ec-90f3-13131e76ce1b.html
Giants, DON'T move Gates, (lets not test fate again), Feliciano can play guard.
https://buffalonews.com/sports/bills/former-bills-guard-jon-feliciano-to-sign-with-giants/article_3dc50afc-a3ff-11ec-90f3-13131e76ce1b.html
Manny, you do realize that our HC and OL coach were in Buffalo, right?
But when Daboll and company came here, Gates was on the shelf - look at him now (Gates), he's playing like a pro bowler !
But when Daboll and company came here, Gates was on the shelf - look at him now (Gates), he's playing like a pro bowler !
Gates is not playing like a Pro Bowler. It's tough to take you seriously when you say shit like that.
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But when Daboll and company came here, Gates was on the shelf - look at him now (Gates), he's playing like a pro bowler !
Gates is not playing like a Pro Bowler. It's tough to take you seriously when you say shit like that.
If gates is an upgrade over feliciano, u should play him at his best position
If nothing else, those two plus glow should bring a little attitude to oline.
Not expecting miracles but along with Neal would really like to pound the rock.
Gates has simply shown a much higher floor and ceiling frankly at center, than Feliciano could ever dream.
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Gates was the starter before he got hurt and is a far better OC. He is healthy himself now and looks strong. He now played the last game and a half and should be considered the starter the rest of this year and moving forward.
Because Gates may need to play G
Please please please no, that's what got him injured last time
Gates has simply shown a much higher floor and ceiling frankly at center, than Feliciano could ever dream.
From Sy'56:
"Center Nick Gates graded out as the top lineman, which isn’t saying much. His hands were heavy and accurate. I don’t see a ton of movement off the line against defensive tackles and he did struggle to get his hips in the hole a few times. I chalk that up to the lower body still working its way back."
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Gates was fantastic at center against Dallas. I was surprised Sy didn’t rate him higher. PFF for instance rated Gates’s performance the best by an NYG center this year by a lot.
Gates has simply shown a much higher floor and ceiling frankly at center, than Feliciano could ever dream.
From Sy'56:
"Center Nick Gates graded out as the top lineman, which isn’t saying much. His hands were heavy and accurate. I don’t see a ton of movement off the line against defensive tackles and he did struggle to get his hips in the hole a few times. I chalk that up to the lower body still working its way back."
Yes, I was surprised Sy had such a "bleh" observation.
The other online observers rated Gates much better. Skinner's offensive line review was headline Nick Gates should absolutely be the starting Center.
BBV Here is an interesting development. Nick Gates, making his first start of the season at center in place of the injured Jon Feliciano, graded far better than Feliciano did in any of the Giants’ first 10 games.
Gates posted an 82.4 overall grade, a nearly-elite 88.6 as a run blocker. As a pass-blocker, Gates allowed just one quarterback hit in 43 pass-blocking snaps.
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In comment 15927374 christian said:
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Gates was fantastic at center against Dallas. I was surprised Sy didn’t rate him higher. PFF for instance rated Gates’s performance the best by an NYG center this year by a lot.
Gates has simply shown a much higher floor and ceiling frankly at center, than Feliciano could ever dream.
From Sy'56:
"Center Nick Gates graded out as the top lineman, which isn’t saying much. His hands were heavy and accurate. I don’t see a ton of movement off the line against defensive tackles and he did struggle to get his hips in the hole a few times. I chalk that up to the lower body still working its way back."
Yes, I was surprised Sy had such a "bleh" observation.
The other online observers rated Gates much better. Skinner's offensive line review was headline Nick Gates should absolutely be the starting Center.
BBV Here is an interesting development. Nick Gates, making his first start of the season at center in place of the injured Jon Feliciano, graded far better than Feliciano did in any of the Giants’ first 10 games.
Gates posted an 82.4 overall grade, a nearly-elite 88.6 as a run blocker. As a pass-blocker, Gates allowed just one quarterback hit in 43 pass-blocking snaps.
I dont see why Sy has to jerk everyone off each week. You critique a guy for making his own observation, but not the others that align with your opinion.
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In comment 15927374 christian said:
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Gates was fantastic at center against Dallas. I was surprised Sy didn’t rate him higher. PFF for instance rated Gates’s performance the best by an NYG center this year by a lot.
Gates has simply shown a much higher floor and ceiling frankly at center, than Feliciano could ever dream.
From Sy'56:
"Center Nick Gates graded out as the top lineman, which isn’t saying much. His hands were heavy and accurate. I don’t see a ton of movement off the line against defensive tackles and he did struggle to get his hips in the hole a few times. I chalk that up to the lower body still working its way back."
Yes, I was surprised Sy had such a "bleh" observation.
The other online observers rated Gates much better. Skinner's offensive line review was headline Nick Gates should absolutely be the starting Center.
BBV Here is an interesting development. Nick Gates, making his first start of the season at center in place of the injured Jon Feliciano, graded far better than Feliciano did in any of the Giants’ first 10 games.
Gates posted an 82.4 overall grade, a nearly-elite 88.6 as a run blocker. As a pass-blocker, Gates allowed just one quarterback hit in 43 pass-blocking snaps.
While Skinner did say that, he also mentioned that he had a few negative plays. He didn't describe him as "fantastic" for sure but he definotely felt he was better than Feliciano by a good deal.
Say what now? I am not critiquing anyone. I am simply pointing out he had a different observation, and I was surprised in the disparity.
Fantastic is my word, not anyone's else. To my untrained eye, I observed he played really well. And the internet reviewers graded him at varying degrees from better than Feliciano to near elite in the run game.
https://www.giants.com/team/injury-report/ - ( New Window )
The interesting question will be who starts at center when either Brederson or Ezeudu are ready. It should be Gates.
Regardless, we have a lot of challenging DT's groups coming up. We should get a better idea of where he is and how to address it this offseason